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View Full Version : Email Hosting!
MotleyFool 03-15-2002, 03:54 AM Hi All,
Valai.Net offers stable,scalable and secure Email Hosting at a very affordable budget
5$/year/POP3 mailbox
No Set Up
The price is the same whether you host 1 mailbox on your domain or 1000. Aliases are free
Each mailbox comes with 10MB storage and 100MB/month of data transfer [which is good enough for a few thousand mails /month unless you are an attachment freak]
The server is all virginal right now [my own site being on my reseller space!], and is a PIII 800 with 256MB RAM and 40GB IDE with FreeBSD 4.4, qmail, vpopmail, courier-imap,qmailadmin and can easily host some 3000 mailboxes
You can manage your domain emails thru qmailadmin - the wonder from Inter7.. you can read about it and have a test drive at
http://www.inter7.com/qmailadmin/
I can as easily enable APOP as POP if you need it
This is a WHT offer and is not on my website..
Paypal payment preferred
Any other questions just holler!
Cheers
Balaji
porcupine 03-15-2002, 04:19 AM if you're running the old qmailadmin + vqdomain dont upgrade. Just upgraded another box that was running that after having to move the mailserver, not sure if it was the admin configuring it, the box or the version, but its kinda buggy, old one was rock solid =\
MotleyFool 03-15-2002, 04:26 AM Good tip porcupine & thanks for that...
What version were you running and what did you upgrade to?
My set up has been very well tested [in fact it's 37 days since I have set up the server and I wanted to be very sure of it before offering]
The more I see FreeBSD the more I love it...:)
Cheers
Balaji
porcupine 03-15-2002, 04:34 AM I couldn't say that well
The one i was running before was v1.ugly hehe, it was the one released back in october, it wasn't too graphical, wasn't very pretty, but did the job. Then last week we upgraded to the latest on a new mailserver after my isp started filtering 25/tcp (smtp) killing all mailservers. It might have been the rush moving mail over, who knows, but this new one, we've had to fiddle with it, the box has crashed a few times, and left half open mysql databases which would need to be cleared before it'd work again.... but i found when adding domains with vqadmin, first it wouldn't set postmaster to the domain administrator (what a pain) then half the times the passwords wouldn't work, and when deleting a pop3 user, it wasn't really deleted, etc. Very subtle things.
MotleyFool 03-15-2002, 05:27 AM porcupine,
I dont use vqadmin at all
I add domains thru vadddomain and set the postmaster account while adding and after that open qmailadmin to users [not that I have any users yet on this server!] but all my test domains have performed the intended functions
Any way good luck with your set up
Cheers
Balaji
ckpeter 03-15-2002, 01:45 PM Very interesting offer...
Sorry if this sounds dumb, but I just want to make sure I understand your offer right:
I can purchase a mailbox with 10MB of storage and 100MB of transfer a month, and then I delegate the mail handling of my domain through the MX record to your server, and your server handles all the email aspect of my domain, while the www aspect of it continues to be hosted elsewhere.
Am I right?
Thanks,
Peter
MotleyFool 03-15-2002, 10:04 PM Hi Peter,
I can provide the www free if it is static HTML upto some 10 pages or so... or I can also provide web hosting on a different server if the customer needs CGI, mySQL etc and host the emails on this server... or as you point out it is also possible for a web site to have an outsourced email solution on my server...
The idea behind this is for small businesses to oursource their email management headaches to us and save money on having an exchange server or Lotus Notes or something like that
Currently most web hosts club email and web site together - email customers want large space and low bandwidth typically.. whereas websites are the otherway around
There are many sites [my own clients included] who use only 100MB bandwidth per month and have 10 page websites but store a lot of emails because of travelling users
I am trying to address a specific market here
Thanks again
Balaji
porcupine 03-15-2002, 10:57 PM Not only that montley, but also with the oldstyle pricing of a few major providers (take look.ca for example) it's very expensive, and they only include a few email accounts, to get more you've got to pay like 2$/mo each, or upgrade to the next plan. It's a good idea, i just hope enough people realise it to make it worth your while..... Might have to put in a scsi raid setup after awhile (when i worked at Netinc, the email server got raped 24x7, was the most beaten up machine i'd ever seen)
ckpeter 03-15-2002, 11:39 PM A couple more questions for your offer:
You mention that its $5 per year for each mailbox. What do you mean by a mailbox? Is it just a regular mail-storing POP mailbox, or are you referring to a mail box as in a sense for the whole domain(with multiple POP mail box)?
Also, what about an offer for multiple domains?
Would you also be able to provide instruction/help on outsourcing mail hosting to your server?(like how to change MX record, etc.)
I have my own server, so serving WWW is not an issue. It is the mail hosting part that I don't want to be bother with, which is why I am interested in your offer.
Thanks,
Peter
MotleyFool 03-16-2002, 01:57 AM porcupine,
Thanks for your wishes and your ideas.. this is only a starter config.. I have wisely chosen a GIGA motherboard with 4 HDD slots and RAM expandability upto 4GB... and I am paying over 2$/GB for quality multihomed, non-Cogent bandwidth at peak-10.com...
I am of the opinion that email is the unsung hero of the Internet... the most used and least respected service! :)... I had a few sign ups when @home went under, paying 10$/year for a 10mb pop box.. [ISP independent email was their requirement] .. which spurred me to look at that segment of the market which is willing to pay a reasonable $$ for a hassle free, high available and ad free email, so here I am!
peter,
I would only be too happy to help you set up my server as your out-sourced email.. basically a hosting server comes with a high bandwidth and disk space in a hosting server is sort of dear... so it makes sense to have a seperate email server with a large space
When I say 1 POP box I mean one unique id user@domain.com that will have an allocated space of 10MB and bandwidth of 100MB... both the space and bandwidth will be there, paid up & available for the user whether he/she uses it or not.
Multiple domains can be hosted on the same server -as many as you want.. so if you have 100 domains and take 500 mailboxes the price would be 2500$/year or 208$/mo [or whatever ;)] irrespective of how many mailboxes per domain etc.,
I would rather host outsourced email than safelists or CGI scripts, but then as porcupine says if enough people dont sign up I may be forced to use part of this server for hosting web sites!
If there is anything else you need just ask please
Thanks
Balaji
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