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cdnav8r 03-14-2002, 03:20 PM I did a search on this board and there doesn't seem to be anything about this host.
I was wondering if anyone knows of PowWeb Hosting or has any experience with them.
URL: http://www.powweb.com
They are offering for $7.77/month:
200 MB Storage
100 POP3 E-Mails
Yourname.com
Community Forum
12 GB Transfer
FrontPage 2002 Ext.
WebStats
SSL, MySQL, PHP4
Control Panel
99.7% Uptime
24/7 FTP Access
2 Months FREE
Web Based E-mail
And More!!
I am just looking for a host that can provide to my PERSONAL website need, not for a business. So basically I am looking for a lot of storage space, but bandwidth does not have to be too high. I take a lot of pictures and have each event thumbnailed on a single page and clicking them opens them up separately in the enlarged/origial form. So, I would like to be able to get a host who is able to provide a higher rate of transfer (downloading, etc.)
PowWeb Hosting seems to offer what I need, and also offers it at a price affordable for personal use and not the "business" type price. So, I just want to make sure of this host before I take the step forward and register. Does anyone have any comments about this host?
Thanks
char0811 03-19-2002, 06:32 AM I was wondering the same thing. I wanted to switch to Powweb.com but I'm not sure...anyone?
alphadesk 03-19-2002, 10:07 PM Hello All,
I host 2 sites at Powweb.com and will move another one when my current contract runs out.
If your looking for all the features listed above and a great group of people to help you with your website problems Powweb is the place. They run a tight ship on there Unix servers in order to keep them up and running.
Had to call tech only 1 time so far and had a live tech person on the phone and problem was resovled in 3 minutes. Now this was during regular daytime hours. They have tech people on the Forum all the time that can help plus many others that really know how to troubleshoot a problem. SimcoWeb of SimcoWeb.com (http://www.simcoweb.com), sophiepo and many others has or can get answers to almost any problem you can think of.
Starr, andrew and james are Powweb employees and one of them will be on the forum to answer ??? that have to be addressed by a Powweb employee.
Powweb just gets better and better with features and service.
Find me a better host with same features and services for $7.77 a month and I will eat my hat!
AlphaOne
AlphaDesk.net
<<Please set up a signature (see PROFILES button above)>>
Nah I prefer MediaTemple :cartman:
Synergy 03-19-2002, 10:29 PM :eek:
UmBillyCord 03-19-2002, 11:02 PM Find me a better host with same features and services for $7.77 a month and I will eat my hat!
I hope your hat taste like chicken, because I think these guys have a good rep around here and they have a better deal on paper.
http://www.myacen.com
http://tera-byte.com
Also, the overage charge for BW is $8/GB/mo.
Looks like there staff is recruiting support. :D
http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?threadid=2505
Ronski46 03-19-2002, 11:21 PM I've gotta go along with AlphaDesk on this one. PowWeb, while not perfect, is pretty danged good. I've had two of my own sites there over the last couple of years, and I put one other person's site there. I'd do it again, too.
In my three years of having sites on the web, I've used only two hosting services: PowWeb and OLM. Both are great. Both give you all the tools you need. I'd rate both hosts a 9. But OLM costs a little more.
I just signed for a year with PowWeb and got two free months, so I'm actually paying only $6.66 a month this first year. Yeehah! :eek: I know people paying a lot more than that, and they don't even have PHP support.
Oh, and PW also has Webalizer now, a great stats package. Plus a support forum, plus MySQL, plus, plus, etc.
Ronski
public-eyes.com
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alphadesk 03-19-2002, 11:21 PM Well I guess I will have to wait to eat my hat!
"Don't signup just yet we are awaiting a new batch of ips!"
Robert - robert@myacen.com
E-solutions for E-business
http://www.myacen.com
http://www.myacen.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1503
UmBillyCord 03-20-2002, 12:10 AM Originally posted by alphadesk
Well I guess I will have to wait to eat my hat!
"Don't signup just yet we are awaiting a new batch of ips!"
Robert - robert@myacen.com
E-solutions for E-business
http://www.myacen.com
http://www.myacen.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1503
You just happened to stop by today, become a member, and write a beautiful ad for Powweb services? You then take the time to point out an issue found only on someone elses forums? Since it seems you just checked in here today, I would ask you to do a seach on myacen and one on powweb. The results will speak for themselves.
I am happy you like Powweb. But there are negative threads you can find on them too. No one is always "eat a hat" good. :)
http://forums.webhostdir.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1296&highlight=powweb
http://forums.webhostdir.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=675&highlight=powweb
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=35043&highlight=powweb
Doug T 03-20-2002, 12:31 AM I hate for this to be my first post on the forum, but this is so blatantly an orchestrated ad campaign. Give me a break - four new users, all posting obviously scripted messages (except maybe the second post)? Even the original question reads like an ad!
alphadesk 03-20-2002, 12:44 AM Maybe I got off to a bad start here. Is the name of this forum webhostingtalk or webhostingflame? I just stated my opinion and the ball just got rolling. I promise to be more civil in the future.
Extremeplay 03-20-2002, 02:01 AM <<Removed: User was looking for comments about a particular host>>
Trust me... or not... this is not "scripted"...
I currently host a domain at PowWeb. I also host with three other companies. PowWeb is the only one that has "real" help in the form of the forums.
After reading some of the "helpful" flameback... err, feedback, I hope you realize that I did not come here to get same :)
I am neither endorsing, nor advocating PowWeb. Shoot, shelfishly, I'd just as soon you stayed away from PowWeb, as that will help my sever-load :) I've been with PowWeb since November last. They've done everything they've promised. I have my site, I have my ftp and FrontPage compatibility and my access times have been averaging 0.13 seconds (per InternetSeer).
I'll agree that there are some folks at PowWeb that are not familiar with cgi, pl, *nix, etc., hell, I was one of them in November, and as such they have not had a really great experience, until they try the forums. When they try to set something up and it doesn't work (usually because they didn't do a 777, or a 755 permssions like the insturction say), they get a bit testy, until they check the forums.
My Ikonboard worked (from the first install), the calendar script worked (from the first install), the whole site works, without a hiccup during the installations, or during their use.
Not sure what I was trying to demonstrate with the last paragraph, but while there is no hand holding here (PowWeb) from the host, there is the best set of forums I've found to get questions answered.
While this may be construed as an endorsement for PowWeb, it is simply an attempt to tell you what I've experienced.
symo
Jedito 03-20-2002, 02:14 AM Originally posted by Extremeplay
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LOL, good joke :D
IceBlaZe 03-20-2002, 07:49 AM how come all powweb supporters here are completely new users?
Originally posted by Extremeplay
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why are the only ***** supporters new users?
Extremeplay 03-20-2002, 09:41 AM We currently run 4 sites. One is on Powweb. The best thing about them is the support forums.
My mistake, only 3000mb
http://www.*****.com./?zone=products/shared_unix_hosting_specials
Jedito 03-20-2002, 09:49 AM I don't know if you're joking or not.
If you're serius, you must be a lucky guy, because ***** was one of the worst host that I ever had to deal with.
I'm not alone in that, you can do a search in this forum about them.
The new users supporting Powweb are here because of a post at Powweb by one of the Powweb admins, the same reason I came here:
http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2505
Despite the appearance, they are just happy customers. Drop by the Powweb forum and see for yourself.
I don't have a site at Powweb, though I do enjoy helping others in the forum. I have a customer that has a site there. I would not have placed the customer at Powweb, he chose Powweb then asked me to do the site.
Imho, the problem with places like Powweb and Myacen is that with such low prices, something somewhere has to get cut, it's inevitable. I know that Powweb places around 1000 customers on each server, that's 4 times too many for me. I'm sure Myacen is no different, maybe worse. Some place as many 25000 on one server, OUCH!
The question is, is your site personal or business? I would never host a business site, whose revenue relies on the site being accessible 24/7, on what I like to call a "virtual" virtual host.
Powweb and Myacen both provide a great service to a targeted market, you'll find many happy customers at both I'm sure, but they are not for everyone. For a personal website, either host is probably a good choice, but be prepared for a few idiosyncrasies.
So, I think folks should lighten up on Alphadesk and Ronski, they're only giving their personal view in reply to the first post.
I would be VERY suspicious of the first post though ;)
peace,
~bud
IceBlaZe 03-20-2002, 11:38 AM powweb are most definately overselling... 1000 costumers? thats 0.1 Mbps per user if the servers has a 100mbps ethernet card. isnt that very little? what is it equivalent to? more or less than 12gigabites of bandwidth?
powweb_admin 03-20-2002, 03:06 PM FYI, the reason there is so much activity from Powweb customer’s is because I saw this post and posted a link to this thread in our own community forum.
If the admins have a problem with this, I would be surprised. Someone asked for feedback, who's better at giving that feed back other than current Powweb customers?
Cheers,
S Pierce
Powweb Inc.
powweb_admin 03-20-2002, 05:12 PM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
http://forums.webhostdir.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1296&highlight=powweb
http://forums.webhostdir.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=675&highlight=powweb
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=35043&highlight=powweb
Sounds like you have a personal bone to pick w/ Powweb. 2 of those threads say nothing if not good things about Powweb, and the other is about a resource abuser we had to deal with (fairly too).
One of the reasons I never post here is all the negativity and deceit. Alpha said it right, this isn’t “webhostingtalk”, this is “webhostingflame”.
WHT admins, you guys sure have your jobs cut out for you. ;)
Cheers,
S Pierce
Webpsico 03-20-2002, 06:17 PM Powweb hosts about 18 (!) domains for me. I'm with them for more than a year now. I saw only improvements on their service during this time. I think the people at Powweb have a very personal approach to their customers and are an example for many! The combination of their service, what they offer and their price beats all. With all these domains I'm busy enough; so the fact that I log into this forum and take the time to tell you this should say enough...
Jaap (a happy Powweb costumer)
:smokin:
Synergy 03-20-2002, 06:57 PM Originally posted by powweb_admin
Sounds like you have a personal bone to pick w/ Powweb. 2 of those threads say nothing if not good things about Powweb, and the other is about a resource abuser we had to deal with (fairly too).
One of the reasons I never post here is all the negativity and deceit. Alpha said it right, this isn’t “webhostingtalk”, this is “webhostingflame”.
WHT admins, you guys sure have your jobs cut out for you. ;)
Cheers,
S Pierce
So why are you posting here now? Flames happen all the time, its how you manage to shut the flames that matters. Having all your users come post about POWWEB is super and ***** is SUPER DUPER doesn't mean a thing to most of the members here :) We all know the truth and nothing but the truth. :cool:
UmBillyCord 03-20-2002, 08:06 PM Originally posted by powweb_admin
Sounds like you have a personal bone to pick w/ Powweb. 2 of those threads say nothing if not good things about Powweb, and the other is about a resource abuser we had to deal with (fairly too).
One of the reasons I never post here is all the negativity and deceit. Alpha said it right, this isn’t “webhostingtalk”, this is “webhostingflame”.
WHT admins, you guys sure have your jobs cut out for you. ;)
Cheers,
S Pierce
Actually I know nothing of your company other then the fact you posted on your forms, pimping for support here. One of your users comes here and says if anyone *finds him* a better host with the same features, he would eat his hat. So I found him two host that I feel have a better rep, especially here, and who offer more features. If your users want to post a chanllange about your service, be prepared for takers.
Now the interesting part, he took so much offense to my reply, he actually went to another host forums and found something negative, then posted it here. My response was anyone can find negative post about anyone. I simply did a quick seacrh on you in two forums in my bookmarks and these came up. So yes your sh** stinks too. And yes, they are negative.
Also, why is it places like Pair, suberb, etc.. have 30,000 - 120,000 users, yet when people ask about there service, no newbies pop in? However you get all newbies telling how great you are? By the way a few of those responses were, I would say your employees or friends of the business enjoy promoting your service. But hey, thats just me.
One of the reasons I never post here is all the negativity and deceit. Alpha said it right, this isn’t “webhostingtalk”, this is “webhostingflame”.
Why are you posting now? I doubt your post would have been missed. Next time your users come here per your request on your forums, tell them to not lay such a challange it you yourself can't handle it. Also, there was no flames anywhere from me. Point one out. Now there is, simply because I think your reply was ignorant. Maybe in powweb everything is wonderful and you live a fairy-tale life, but on WHT you better be prepared to to back you post.
I wish you and your company the best, however my post stands as a fair reply to Mr. "I'll eat my hat" guy.
powweb_admin 03-20-2002, 08:45 PM Whats the matter, you can’t imagine anyone actually liking their web host? I know those that posted only as our customers (and one I thought was a customer admits he isn’t and yet he STILL posted something positive), and while I do consider some of our customers friends, sadly, none of them have posted here yet.
As for “why now?” Why not? I've been reading WHT for a long time and have seen other posts about Powweb come and go. Some good, some bad. This time, I was here just as cdnav8r and char0811 posted their questions. How could I NOT point our users to this thread? Good or bad, if someone asks about someone’s services, what’s better then those companies own customers providing that feed back?
Chicken 03-20-2002, 09:55 PM I don't have a problem with you posting a link to this discussion, but at the same time, that means I can't have a problem with people posting links to discussions here and elsewhere now can I?
Please don't accuse people of flaming when they aren't. Posting links to other discussions (whether good or bad) isn't flaming. I realize you'd only like positive things discussed but that doesn't always happen.
web docta 03-20-2002, 10:11 PM I have been using Powweb since Nov. 2001 for one of my sites, before I signed up for a reseller account with Splashhost. Powweb is pretty reliable, and their uptime is pretty good. I have only seen it down a couple of times and only for a short period. However now that I have a reseller account I am going to switch out of there as soon as my contract expires in Nov 2002.
But if you only want them for one site I would say that they are pretty reliable and their sites load pretty fast also.
BTW I am totally neutral on this issue. I have never even been to the Powweb forums.
dmarie 03-21-2002, 12:31 AM I have been hosting with Powweb since last summer, and they are not perfect, however they run a pretty okay business. I've had limited problems with them with the two domains they host there for me. I do plan on moving the domains when they are up to a server solution where I can host mulitple domains with one account, but their prices are really good and their tech support is pretty good. I'd recommend them for a starter site, but have found other hosts to be able to offer features I need that they just don't have.
-dm
cdnav8r,
I have had a personal, non business site on Powweb for six weeks. I have had no problems and the forums were a big help in getting things set up. I have a photo album there and like the way it turned out... have a look if you like:
http://www.dutchcanyonred.com/photoalbum.htm
I like the price and the service. I'd recommend Powweb.
Cheers,
DCR
Daniel_T 03-21-2002, 02:50 AM I am a current client to powweb, to recomend them... well I would not do that. It would be a good host if you just needed some web space for basic home web site. But if you need to have your site up at all times and get the speed that you need , powweb is not the place to be. I am a stupid client, I paid for a year so I have to stay a year. Soon as that year is up, I am history, Support stinks, and then their is a message board to where they send all the clients to get info on why they are down so much. They have a person that goes by a screen name Star. What a person, if you say anything negative or you are upset because you want to know why you are down so much, they will delete you.
I have been on these boards, just first time posting. I found Powweb here, and well I took some bad advice.
Good place for the first time web user, but if you need web hosting, powweb will not do what you need.
LarryW 03-21-2002, 07:44 AM Yes, most of these messages are from people at Powweb, given encouragement to respond to this thread by the head technical person...
Powweb is okay, but not great.... The price is good, but the servers are generally slow, and there is a lot of downtime. Technical support is generally useless, but the powweb forums are great.
Powweb admins generally have a pretty poor attitude at times, and are a bit 'in your face' feeling at times
Anyway, if your sight is a business site or very popular, Powweb might not be your best choice
But, if your site is small, and a slow server is not a serious concern, Powweb is fine
IceBlaZe 03-21-2002, 10:52 AM If the support is less than good, and the attitude is not ok, than its not for first webtimers.
But if the servers are slow and there is a lot of downtime than its also not for business users/coroporations.
Then who is it for?
UmBillyCord 03-21-2002, 12:13 PM One of the reasons I never post here is all the negativity and deceit. Alpha said it right, this isn’t “webhostingtalk”, this is “webhostingflame”.
Hey powweb_admin, looks like "all the negativity" is coming from *your* users. Thanks for sending them bye. :cartman:
I think Iceblaze summed it up ......
If the support is less than good, and the attitude is not ok, than its not for first webtimers.
But if the servers are slow and there is a lot of downtime than its also not for business users/coroporations.
Then who is it for?
powweb_admin 03-21-2002, 03:01 PM Like I said, good or bad, feed back should come from our users.
Re: Our servers being slow. Any way you test Powweb, we rate one of the fastest. :)
http://webservices.cnet.com/Ping/
I'm far too much a newbie to create waves here, but I would like to carefully make an observation.
Some of the regular users here seem to be dead set against Powweb. I have to ask, have you had a site with them? Are you competitors of theirs? I just wonder what your reasoning is.
Someone posted a msg asking for input on Powweb. I have to agree, who better than Powweb customers to give that insight. The Powweb admin posted this thread at Powweb knowing full well that I and others who are *not necessarily* pro-Powweb would likely come and reply. I gotta respect that.
Now, if manninc comes in here posting, well he is WAY WAY pro-Powweb (no matter what!) and doesn't even get paid for it, he's a moderator, I don't think he can be objective ;) LOL
BTW, this is a fantastic website, a 'must have' for the Internet!
~bud
UmBillyCord 03-21-2002, 04:13 PM Originally posted by powweb_admin
Like I said, good or bad, feed back should come from our users.
Re: Our servers being slow. Any way you test Powweb, we rate one of the fastest. :)
http://webservices.cnet.com/Ping/
If you want to keep going back and forth, I'm your man. I have nothing against you or your company, but if you want to keep posting stuff like this, I will respond!
Hopefully someone running a hosting company would know that a ping test is nothing more then basically a quick check on how fast the packets run from the sent server to your target server. This is testing the network speeds more then anything. It says nothing about how overloaded a server. I can ping a Cobalt RAQ2 with a load average of 10 and still get great ping times.
Another point about the results. If you host on the same network that CNet uses for their servers performing the test, you will get great results.
Also, just so you know, CNet also records downtime and timeouts as "0"s in ms. When they display the results, sites that are actually down, will have a higher rating then a place like RackSpace with a return of 10 ms. I have even read that a host who got constant 0 ratings for speed actually located where the pings were coming from and blocked ICMP for those IPs to get a high rating.
Some of the regular users here seem to be dead set against Powweb. I have to ask, have you had a site with them? Are you competitors of theirs? I just wonder what your reasoning is.
Why do people come here, read parts of things, and think everything is a flame or bash. Read the whole thread. No one is dead set against PW. However now that he wants to come here and debate, then great, be prepared for a debate that might point out negatives.
geez man, just an observation.
no need to get your dingleberries in an uproar ;)
I assume then you are a competitor?
btw, I *DID* read the whole thread, that's where I got the impression :stickout
~bud
fcsnc 03-21-2002, 05:16 PM "You can fool too many of the people, too much of the time."
- James Thurber
UmBillyCord 03-21-2002, 05:24 PM I assume then you are a competitor?
Yep, sure am. Did you get that from my signature? Did you get it from my post bragging about my company? Oh, you must of got it from my offerrings in the advertising section.......
I assume you are a 10 ft monkey with green fur?
Again, PW sure has some devoted newbies defending them. Funny a person who .... I'm far too much a newbie to create waves here, but I would like to carefully make an observation. ... doesn't want to make waves, sure defends his host and even make assumptions others are competitors so there arguements would then be irrilevant.
Just an observation.
UmBillyCord 03-21-2002, 05:28 PM "The dog has seldom been successful in pulling man up to its level of sagacity, but man has frequently dragged the dog down to his"
or
"Let us not look back to the past with anger, nor towards the future with fear, but look around with awareness."
- James Thurber
Synergy 03-21-2002, 05:35 PM Originally posted by Bud
geez man, just an observation.
no need to get your dingleberries in an uproar ;)
I assume then you are a competitor?
btw, I *DID* read the whole thread, that's where I got the impression :stickout
~bud
By such an accusation like that, I also asume you are working for Powweb.
By such an accusation like that, I also asume you are working for Powweb.
Whatever.
Yep, sure am. Did you get that from my signature? Did you get it from my post bragging about my company? Oh, you must of got it from my offerrings in the advertising section.......
I only assumed you might be a competitor due to the volatility and one-sidedness of your post. If you have to resort to name calling (monkey) to get a point across then a cordial conversation is obviously out of the question.
I am not a big fan of Powweb, ask anyone that posts at that forum, hell, just read my damned post. I don't dislike Powweb, but I don't always recommend them.
What is this site, the flame newbie site? It's really a shame this site can't be used to discuss webhosts in a cordial manner, I thought I had found a legitimate webhosting discussion site, guess not. I'll keep looking. Have fun!!
~bud
UmBillyCord 03-21-2002, 06:55 PM If you have to resort to name calling (monkey)
Actually this was not name calling. This was a simply play on your use of "assumption" and mine. I was pointing out how easily a stupid assumptions can be. Hence, 10 ft monkey.......
I only assumed you might be a competitor due to the volatility and one-sidedness of your post.
This makes no sense, because if you truly read this entire thread you would see I suggested two other great hosting companies to the man who challanged the board to find a better host and he would eat his hat. (PS - he must of choked on it, because he has not been back.)
What makes it one sided is when someone comes here and accuses me of flaming, then tries to sell me some BS about server speed = fast ping times.
What is this site, the flame newbie site? It's really a shame this site can't be used to discuss webhosts in a cordial manner, I thought I had found a legitimate webhosting discussion site, guess not. I'll keep looking. Have fun!!
The "Oh I bit of more then I can chew, how can I get out of this and feel good about myself - I know, I'll use guilt" tactic.
As usual, a fly-by-nighter stops in, is debated, then thinks the world is out to get him.
Also, why did I use the term "newbie" to describe you?? Your words -
I'm far too much a newbie to create waves here, but I would like to carefully make an observation.
alphadesk 03-21-2002, 07:05 PM You pointing me to 2 webhost. One I could not sign up because they did not have any IP'S at this time. I believe that was your company. Correct me if I am wrong. I did not even look at the other after that.
Wow, such sarcasm. Take a valium dude!
You are entirely too uptight. :rolleyes:
Ya know, you keep treating new users like that and you'll run them all off. btw, you never replied to my question, are you a competitor? Do you run a hosting company? And please, don't duck the question again with sarcasm.
~bud
UmBillyCord 03-21-2002, 07:19 PM I thought I had found a legitimate webhosting discussion site, guess not. I'll keep looking. Have fun!!
Hey, you are back.
Ya know, you keep treating new users like that and you'll run them all off. btw, you never replied to my question, are you a competitor? Do you run a hosting company? And please, don't duck the question again with sarcasm.
No, just ones who can't hang. They like to post, and then get defensive if they can't persuade others. You know the types.
Do a little research, you will find your answer.
Now let me ask you a question. If I were a competitor trying to discredit another, would I jump in here and point out two other host as good, yet argue against another? Don' try to turn this is to some great cause for the newbie and defender of the Powweb movement. The PWNA (Pow Web Newbie Army) came here making claims like "find a better host" and making acusations like people are flaming or bashing. No, but someone is debating these claims.
I believe that was your company. Correct me if I am wrong. I did not even look at the other after that.
And not "Mr I'll eat my hat", I am not from Australia (love it there however!), so it is not my company.
Good bye guys.
Persuade others? huh? What are you talking about? You ducked my question again didn't you?
~bud
I'm sorry, my apologies!
I had no idea newbies had to run a gauntlet here in order to be someone that could 'hang', or simply offer their view.
~bud
novaflare 03-23-2002, 10:32 AM heh some one said up aways how come all the powweb supporters are new users well for me i was searching around for forums etc about web hosting and the like and found this site.
I my self use powweb and well they have very good service.
one thing that i will give them a thumbs down on is they have a limit on single file file size 10 megs only so you can only upload or sotre 10 meg and under files.
So if your thinking of hosting a share ware type site where you will be hosting .5 to 500 meg files powweb at this time isnot the place to be.
other than that one thing i have no complaints.
btw this site just got bookmarked heheh
OK, I am finally here. The person you have been waiting for. One that has no experience with Powweb, just the type of person you are looking for to post comments on Powweb service. Oh wait a minute, I don't have an opinion, because I'm not a customer. Sorry guys, sounds like you are going to have to listen to Powweb's customers to get an opinion on Powweb's service. Strange how that works. Oh wait, I'm a new user seeing how I don't have 1000 posts. Thus according to you, that means I don't have an opinion and shouldn't be posting. Sorry for wasting your time.
Chicken 03-23-2002, 10:07 PM Errrrrr... can we PM things that should be PM'ed and discuss the thread topic in the thread please?
kvk007 03-24-2002, 04:32 AM Hi all. I should say that my forums running on powweb servers are going smooth and very fast. I have no problems with those guys except for minor stuff to do with the php. Other than that, i would strongly suggest thier webhosting.
Don't forget, excellent price for what you get!!
My site which is running on thier server is " http://omanserv.com " " http://omanserv.com/forum "
qqqwww 03-24-2002, 05:29 AM For now I have account at PowWeb, and a pro account at LiquidWeb. I think PowWeb is not excellent but rather good provider. Especially when comparing them with other providers. Their support is often useless, but this is common problem of most hosting companies. I pay 3 times more at LiquidWeb and have even worse support. PW offers 12 GB of traffic for $7.77, I think this is a great offer. This is not a false advertising, I myself used once 11 GB in month without problems (and after that I opened another account at LiquidWeb). And what is very important for me is that I can trust them. They are a big company with thousands of clients. They have a telephone support and office address on their front page. I understood that this is important for me when yesterday I have signed up to 7 days trial of $50 semi-dedicated account at a certain hosting company, and in several hours after several contacts with them I canceled my sign-up.
Antgear 03-24-2002, 09:12 AM There's always food for lions around here :D
torn_user 03-25-2002, 02:17 AM Well I currently have a couple sites hosted on Powweb, so I'll give you my thoughts on what -I- think of them.
As I have read on here many times so far..... if it's a mini site about you and your dog sparky that you want to look at from time to time, or a site you want to test PHP, CGI, or whatever...... it's an ok hosting provider.
There are many things I dislike about them, so as they say... "if you don't like it then leave", so as soon as my contract is up in a few months I'll move to a provider with a plan that fits -MY- changing needs.
I read all the forums and FAQs before I made my decision to host with them. Looking back, I wish they hadn't censored the forums. I wanted to see both sides before I made my decision... not the bright cheery "perfect hosting solution." The forums were at one point overly moderated. A thread would start and would be closed in 15 minutes. I don't check the forum daily or even weekly, but it would have been nice to give an educated answer to a question instead of the typical "search the forum this was talked about 4 weeks ago." As most people are new to web hosting, they don't know what to ask and what proper terms to use. Not to mention you have to watch out for the inconsistencies. You'll read one thing on one page..... and see something slightly different on another. (Fees, options, etc) Keep in mind you have to follow the fellow Lemmings in the forums, if you go against the flow they'll censor you you like a Jerry Springer show! The one that still makes me laugh to this day was they implemented a bad word filter. hehehe Try explaining to someone how to configure .htaccess without using the word "p@$$word."
There was a bright side to the forums though ..... sometimes the intelligent people came out to play, and they would share their secrets on how they found ways around the system. That alone is worth a bookmark to http://forum.powweb.com
After I signed up I noticed some things that ticked me off. I never saw a mention of the 10MB per file upload cap. I work as an SE for a dot com, and I tend to use my websites to exchange info and files with people from my parent company & technical friends at other companies. With our firewalls, Websense blocking, email filters and caps, and security, it's so much easier to just FTP up to a neutral server and then FTP back down the file you need.
You can guess my surprise when we needed to move a 35MB zip file of a database immediately.... and 10MB thru the upload, the server dropped me. I tried again and again. Finally I gave up and pushed it out to a site I have on another hosting provider with no limits.
Another issue was email. I wanted to give my friends a "home" email that would never change the way so many of us have to change every time we get a new job or ISP. I was embarassed when I had to tell my friend his user id for his email was "9999.HisUserID". Well that idea died too and I moved everyone off again to my other hosting provider. Sure you get many many many email accounts, but they have to be unique to the system.... so if you want to be webmaster@yourdomain.com haha good luck because someone already took that name unless you sign in with 9999.webmaster to access you email.
Bandwidth wasn't an issue with me but I have seen the issue raised so many times. If you go over 400MB per day they'll send you a nastygram to remind you not to go over the 12GB transfer limit. Like I said this wasn't too big of an issue with me because after I saw the email things and the upload caps..... I stopped pointing people to my powweb domains.
I mainly use my domains to test theories and setup creative solutions to circumvent some obstacles I come across. Web mail was pretty awsome, as well as the webcam & some other toys I have running behind the scenes. But they don't do you much good when the server is down and you have to check the forum to see what people -THINK- happened. I remember one day (in that rocky January-February time) I was demonstrating a webcam idea to a possible side job client. I looked like a total loser when they saw my site was down for several hours and they couldn't see my idea. Needless to say I lost that particular side job. :(
I would leave Powweb, but there is no point losing several hundred dollars to move to a new provider just yet. I'll wait my time out and then move on to my new choice.
Best advice would be to try them our for maybe a 3-month deal with a website you don't depend on to put food in your tummy. You'll have to pay the $20 setup fee, but if you need to test the quality for yourself, you'll have only lost a little money and not several hundred dollars.
Good luck in your travels,
-The Torn One.
qqqwww 03-25-2002, 04:40 AM >If you go over 400MB per day they'll send you a nastygram to remind you not to go over the 12GB transfer limit.
I was not going to defend PowWeb, I said they are not excellent, but good. That "nastygram" :) was the worst thing in my experience with PW. You wrote that you did not receive it, but I did. This is not a reminder, this is an ultimatum where they order you to fax them a signed form with you agreement to pay them $8 for each additional GB above the 12 GB limit. You must fax them this form within 24 hrs or you account will be suspended. No matter how much of traffic you really used from beginning of the month, if your traffic for two consecutive days exceeds 400MB you automatically receive this notification. If it happens that you did not check your email during this 24 hrs (and did not see that notification) or you just have not a fax or printer under your hand in that moment, they will simply turn off your site.
char0811 03-28-2002, 07:16 PM <sigh>
I was all set to choose PowWeb as my host until I found a review about PowWeb and credit card #'s. I've posted ???'s about it on their support forums but have not received a reply yet to my latest post. (funny, all my other ???'s were answered quickly except for this one)
If you submit your credit card to PowWeb, they claim they cannot remove it at your request because they would be breaking the law if they did. This kinda scares me... now I come here and read all this (found the link on their support forums). Back to square one...
char0811 03-28-2002, 07:19 PM forgot to add.....
I have visited sites hosted by PowWeb and they loaded quickly, even the graphic intense ones.....
UPDATE: They answered my question about the cc#....
Samatva 03-28-2002, 10:44 PM I'm happy with PowWeb, although will leave them if they convert my server's PHP over to CGI (instead of an Apache module as it is now...) Some of their servers are CGI, some are mod. I understand the security issues & don't mind if others on my server can snoop at my pages behind the scenes.
Most of my problems with PowWeb have been outside of their control (sort of) in that the DNS system went south for over a day. Due to cacheing, some places could not get in while others could... frustrating to troubleshoot.
There is the consideration of appropriateness that PowWeb users in this thread seem get, but missed by others here: Different Types Of Hosting Are For Different Types Of Sites!! PowWeb is great for your average personal/club/organization/non-profit/fun/budget site. You can't run e-commerce on it.
It does have a better-than-average control panel (but not outrageously great) - sub-domains are easy to set-up, and the mail system works quite well (never seen a glitch or a bounce, although i direct junk mail elsewhere...).
However, even though it is 'hobby' time involved, the saving there will be completely wiped out if i have to mod my (mostly custom) php scripts to accomodate the CGI version of PHP. Even my test server at home is less hassle than that! I'd rather pick it all up and move elsewhere. Of course, my daughter would love to have 200 meg for her pics at a price within her allowance.... hmmmm, perhaps a win for me ;-)
p.s. http://www.myacen.com/ has been down for over an hour... can't tell if they are competition or not.... hmmmm.
wwwebmas2k 03-29-2002, 02:12 AM Powweb.com sucks.
They had "unlimited bandwith" and kicked me at 18, after they promised me they would still honor my unlimited bandwith policy once they changed they'res to 12gb.
Besides that (they no longer offer unlimited), they hide lots of charges. Be prepared to fork over money for MySQL ($30) and other addons that they cleverly hide in their terms of service.
One could also swear they run their company off a 56k modem.
-Me
novaflare 03-29-2002, 09:56 AM sure dont look like their 30 dolor set up fee for sql is hidden to me
http://www.powweb.com/pow1detail.html.
Its the second link in the menu from the top says PowValue.
As for being on a 56k ill take their 56k conection then cause its one seriously fast 56k conection.
Theese forums are starting to seem like the users are all from other web hosting companys.
in this entire thread of have seen no real info posted about powweb only specualation and false info such as hidden charges like sql.
Im bettign at least half the posters have had porn and warez sites hosted on powweb deleted
qqqwww 03-29-2002, 10:22 AM Hmm.. Novaflare, per your logic I can judge that:
>Theese forums are starting to seem like the users are all from other web hosting companys.
1. You are an user of PowWeb...
>false info such as hidden charges like sql.
2. You are not using MySQL...
>Im bettign at least half the posters have had porn and warez sites hosted on powweb deleted
3. Your porn site has not been deleted from PowWeb yet.
novaflare 03-29-2002, 10:38 AM Originally posted by qqqwww
Hmm.. Novaflare, per your logic I can judge that:
>Theese forums are starting to seem like the users are all from other web hosting companys.
1. You are an user of PowWeb... <<< corect
>false info such as hidden charges like sql.
2. You are not using MySQL... <<< wrong i am useing sql
>Im bettign at least half the posters have had porn and warez sites hosted on powweb deleted
3. Your porn site has not been deleted from PowWeb yet.<<< sorry porn is for people who dont have a real life i would never run a porn site they are a waste of band width and hd space
What alot of the people on this forum seem to be are people from other hosting companys bad mouthing each other to try and boost their own buissness.
Yet i see one company who isnt doign this that is being bad mouthed and thats powweb.
What i sugest is any one who reads this forum take every thing here with a grain of salt dont base your choice on only this forum or any other single forum.
When i choose powweb i did so after lookign at no less than 12 other hosts my self and others from my company also looked at other hosting companys then we whent with powweb not just becuase of their price but also their obvious support in their forums you not only get replys to your questions from a mod or admin but users help out as well.
That is support that most other hosting companys includeing some who have stolen used powwebs site as a template for their own useing a nice little thign called find and replace to change powweb for their own name.
novaflare 03-29-2002, 10:45 AM Originally posted by char0811
forgot to add.....
I have visited sites hosted by PowWeb and they loaded quickly, even the graphic intense ones.....
UPDATE: They answered my question about the cc#....
OMG you must hang out on hard ocp heheh
(note hard ocp is a hard ware forum that may as well be a chat room :)
heheh and you posted at after 3 am heh you dang early bird heheh
Their posts seemed quite fast to me
char0811 03-29-2002, 05:52 PM Originally posted by novaflare
OMG you must hang out on hard ocp heheh
(note hard ocp is a hard ware forum that may as well be a chat room :)
heheh and you posted at after 3 am heh you dang early bird heheh
Their posts seemed quite fast to me
Besides the fact that your post is way OT (off topic), it also doesn't make any sense. The PowWeb forums are not a hardware forum, they are forums for their customers and I do not hang out there, I was a potential customer that's why I browsed them.
It wasn't 3 am when I posted, check my post time again...
mr monkey 03-30-2002, 02:17 AM Not every host is going to fit your needs.
If cost is the only thing that moves you, make sure you know that the way low cost web hosts stay in business is they limit resources. If they didn’t, they would have to charge far more to be able to support those demands. This means bandwidth limitations, processor time limits, # of email recipients, size of files allowed on server, etc. All of these can affect your site's (or its future) growth.
Think about it. You DO "get what you pay for" IF you go low cost hosting. Limitations are the name of the game. IMHO it is the level of service that comes w/ that hosting that makes the difference. Just because you pay less than $10 per month, shouldn’t mean you’re treated like a leper by customer service.
Again, make sure you understand what your site's requirements are, then go find a host that best fits those needs now, and into the future. Once you do find a host that you feel fits your physical needs, send some emails to their various departments to check out response times, courtesy and most importantly accuracy.
Thanks to forums such as this, you can get a “feel” of a host your thinking of. Just remember, do your own homework, don’t always rely on someone else’s bad experience w/ a host be your deciding factor.
Admin, I am sorry if this is off topic. :)
Ps: Regarding “too good to be true” hosting packages, knowing that it costs a lot of $ to run a valid hosting business, be wary of hosts that offer the world for pennies. Sometime, somewhere, something has to give.
tazman 03-30-2002, 07:19 PM <<Admin edit: removed. Waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic.>>
fcsnc 03-30-2002, 08:18 PM Talk about off-topic :rolleyes:
tazman 03-30-2002, 08:24 PM <<Admin edit: removed. Waaaaaaaaaaaay off topic.>>
cdnav8r 03-31-2002, 04:39 AM Originally posted by Doug T
Even the original question reads like an ad!
Do a search on my posts and you will know I'M NOT ADVERTISING! If I were advertising, I would have multiple posts all about powweb.
I am indeed looking for a host for a personal site, as my current one is only 20MB in storage. I have since signed up at dixiesys, not powweb
cdnav8r 03-31-2002, 04:44 AM Originally posted by DCR
cdnav8r,
I have had a personal, non business site on Powweb for six weeks. I have had no problems and the forums were a big help in getting things set up. I have a photo album there and like the way it turned out... have a look if you like:
http://www.dutchcanyonred.com/photoalbum.htm
I like the price and the service. I'd recommend Powweb.
Cheers,
DCR
DCR, thanks for the link to your site......it seems that I posted my original msg just asking about powweb but it turned out like people thought it was more of an advertisement. I only listed the features because that's what they offered....
Anyways, its good to finally get someone to supply some input and a website at the same time. Thanks for your help. :)
fcsnc 03-31-2002, 12:28 PM I have a family reunion website at Powweb, also with a lot of pictures. For those who want further evidence that Powweb is a great place to hang your website (and those who are questioning whether Powweb has overloaded servers or stingy bandwidth):
http://GwinnReunion.org/
novaflare 03-31-2002, 12:42 PM dang both thoose links loaded down with pics and both load quick
Good little test to show just how fast powweb realy is.
Adventualy ill have to move my site from powweb do to my companys buiss ill need more than powweb can give but as it is now i cant beet the deal.
nvphone 03-31-2002, 01:11 PM I am very happy with both my hosting companies.................
AirportAcres 04-07-2002, 12:12 AM I've been a PowWeb customer for a little more than a year. I switched from another web hosting service after a week-long server outage. I'm a small-time webmaster with a handful of customers.
Here's why I like PowWeb:
* They respond to email promptly, accurately and pleasantly.
* They provide a great package of services, at a very reasonable price.
* Their web site tells you what you need to know, with no surprises.
* Signing up and creating a web site is completely automated, and couldn't possibly be easier. I had each of my webs up and running within 1/2 hour.
* The staff know what they're doing. They understand both the business and the technical aspects of running a web hosting service.
I think they're just dandy, and I recommend PowWeb to anyone looking for a great hosting package at a very reasonable price. If you decide to sign up, please consider using my domain as a referral (airportacres.com) -- each referral gets two months free hosting.
Originally posted by IceBlaZe
how come all powweb supporters here are completely new users?
and how come they're all regualr posted at powweb support forums?
mr monkey 04-09-2002, 09:53 PM I think that was explained on page one or two of this thread. :)
novaflare 04-09-2002, 10:11 PM Originally posted by dmarie
I have been hosting with Powweb since last summer, and they are not perfect, however they run a pretty okay business. I've had limited problems with them with the two domains they host there for me. I do plan on moving the domains when they are up to a server solution where I can host mulitple domains with one account, but their prices are really good and their tech support is pretty good. I'd recommend them for a starter site, but have found other hosts to be able to offer features I need that they just don't have.
-dm
At some point i to will need to move my site to one with more band width as well as no limit on file sizes and prob a tad more space maybe by the time im ready to move powweb will offer something more fitting my needs.
I mean at some point sence i amd founder and ceo of a entertainment company specializing in mmorpgs im gona need plenty of band width and a min 800 to 1 gig storage but hey for now powweb is perfect for my needs.
There is no one host out that will fit every ones exact needs.
Axeon 04-11-2002, 10:40 PM Well, I have been on Powweb recently until a few days ago since the Pluto server went down. In order to help them, I had recieved word that a hacker was attempting to DoS our site. I reported him ASAP to Powweb, and instead of helping me out and thanking me for providing information to them, I was instantly taken off the server.
For a few days I had wondered what had happened. I had to CONSTANTLY e-mail support, until finally they replied with a brisk, "Oh, we disabled you're account. We don't want people like you on our servers." That threw me off a bit -- as it would to anyone. They blamed me for being hacked. Somewhat odd. Their Tech. Support were incredibally rude to my friends. "Starr" (one of the posters in this topic that is pro-Powweb and works at Powweb) told our co-webmaster to "go play in a sandbox". Talk about unprofessional. Another great word to describe Powweb.
All in all, I'm looking forward to my refund (if I ever get it :mad: ) and my switch over to Netacore.com!
[POW]Web = "Prisoner of War" Web.
:angry: :angry: :angry:
torn_user 04-12-2002, 04:05 AM Well I have been watching both forums more than usual here lately. (forum.powweb.com & this one)
Surprisingly, I think I am now at the point where I am willing to lose my money to get off powweb..... at least on one of my domains. It has the unfortunate luck of the draw to reside on the misbehaving pluto server. :(
One of the posts that tended to crack me up was people were complaining about not knowing what was up with pluto. In all the infinite wisdom of the admins they said to check the announcements forum....... oh wait did I mention that the forum was down for a couple days because it was misbehaving too?
Now that it's back up, I recommend watching the powweb forum for a few days.... there were a few good links under:
Powweb Forums > Announcements > Powweb Announcements
including a recap of the previous poster's mishap.
-Torn
KannerZack 04-12-2002, 06:34 AM powweb admin, [mB]~monkey_king , MR.Monkey or the 20 other names they use. All have two things in common "powweb or monkeyb*t*h.net" fill in the stars. Check both sites(and who owns them) an see the mature people who run powweb. Look at the names/connection.
Zac
P.S What Axeon said doesn't shock me with the good admin/evil admin talk going on at both sites.
Redmumba 04-12-2002, 08:40 PM I'm actually the person Starr told to "go play in the sandbox". And as he also said, its COMPLETELY unprofessional. They make you think there are several people working diligently 24/7, but in truth, its two guys (Andrew and Starr), who may or MAY NOT be the same person. Either way, none of them seem to know what they're talking about (I'm convinced they don't know what "DoS" means. ANd no, its NOT Disk Operating System >:O)
Anyway, while Axeon was complaining on the boards, I tried to go straight to the root of the problem. We got it to the point that we knew the home address, phone number, and name of the person who was actually DoSing the site, or was having someone do it for him. However, after PURPOSELY deleting all our files (including our Logs), they said we "Had no proof", even though they deleted the logs. So not only are they unprofessional, they're dishonest too. NOT a good combination.
Also, some guy we didn't even know got kicked off, supposedly for being a problem? Either way, we both got kicked off for no reason, and we're STILL awaiting word on our "refund". Also, they were very slow to react. They didn't actually do anything for 2 days, and when they did do something, all they did was take the server offline, saying they had to make repairs which, if they even happened (And I doubt they did), could've been prevented by a professional who knew what they were doing. It would NOT surprise me if these were a couple of 17-18yr olds running a server out of their basement. It really wouldn't.
So... unprofessional, dishonest, poor businessmen (or man, we don't know), not to mention lacking in the social skills department. So any new people coming on here... here's a tip.
FOR GOOD SERVICE AND HOSTING, DO NOT GO TO POWWEB
Even if nothing happens to you directly, you could very easily be caught in the crossfire ;)
mr monkey 04-22-2002, 02:18 PM Hmm, so now you poke fun at my hobbies? It's now "unprofessional" to host a game related web site or run online game servers? Interesting. Maybe I should take up polo or fly fishing. Heaven forbid an Admin of a hosting company have a life outside of his work. Even more unimaginable is that admin playing online games! I can’t image the connection.
FYI: The reason I had to change users in this very thread was my other user, “powweb_admin” seems to have been locked down, disabled or removed. Perhaps the admins of this board felt this was necessary. Since this forum is run and owned by a web host, perhaps they don’t like the fact that so many users were praising and standing up for Powweb in the face of blatant flames made by NON-powweb users. Perhaps this post will disappear as well, but I would hope not. I believe this post is a direct response to some of the above posts.
As for the posts above, that account was shut down for repeated resource abuse which they refused to acknowledge nor work on to lower. One of them also pissed someone off so bad, they attempted a DoS attack against the server his site was on. Forgive us for not wanting to host sites such as these.
As for the "sand box" comment, this was taken out of context, but given their age, this doesn’t surprise me.
fcsnc 04-22-2002, 04:21 PM I'm always fcsnc. Even on eBay. Most people use one ID to sell, another to buy, another one to raise h*** in the forums. Why hide?
I don't think it's "unprofessional" for a web host to have a computer-related hobby. However, I am troubled that Mr. Monkey hosts his game site on saturn.powweb.com -- is it possible that his consumption of resources ever interferes with his "professional" customer base?
Read the Powweb TOS. No profanity, no nudity, and (as they in fact posted on their forums one time) nothing inappropriate for a 10-year-old child. Since Mr. Monkey's hobby site has both profanity and links to sites that display nudity, he violates the TOS that he uses to kick off paying clients.
Yeah, I like fun too. I also like to be thoroughly professional when I'm being professional. Even if it rubs certain people the wrong way.
mr monkey 04-22-2002, 04:41 PM I think I know the “link” you are referring to on the [mB] site. Like the good admin I am, that link has been edited.
Tom, if you choose to chastise an individual or company, you should do so from a position above reproach if you expect your words to hold any weight. If memory holds right, you were asked to step down as a moderator of Powweb’s forums due to your un-professionalism and your inability to handle the pressure.
fcsnc 04-22-2002, 04:59 PM Starr,
Your recollection is not correct. I was not asked to step down. I resigned. I had my reasons.
If anyone wants my side of that story, feel free to send me e-mail for details. Unlike some people, I don't make a practice of chastising individuals or companies on public forums.
As I said before ... real professionalism rubs certain people the wrong way.
Tom@fcsnc.com
novaflare 04-22-2002, 06:00 PM intresting that people in this forum are not allowed to speak up for a webhost they use when all they have had is good experiances with the host.
Im starting to wonder if maybe the point of this forum is to destroy other hosts not owned by the web host that also owns this forum who is this forum and rackshack.com notice the owner of both.
That is imo a conflict of intrests to run a forums who main theme is to get info on other webhosts as well as user experiances with a host.
The forum admins would have no problem filtering out post that could cause them to loose buiss in favor of threads and posts that make rack shack look good that is truely unprofessional
kvk007 05-02-2002, 01:59 AM Good news guys.
PowWeb had upgraded thier monthly bandwidth from 12GB to 16GB! And so far, thier service is still kicking ass.
You can check http://OmanServ.com to make sure on thier fast servers.
novaflare 05-02-2002, 07:41 AM cool they also added additional ftp acount now have 10 total
Ah, powweb. I'm sure they are just fantastic, but they are also spammers.
I just received the following in a hotmail account that I've never, ever used for anything except unsubscribing from the occasional spam that would land in it.
Full post in news.admin.net-abuse.sightings
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novaflare 06-01-2002, 10:16 PM thats not powweb thats 2 people i have seen mention this email
notice this line
(HELO cancun.stationsnetwork.com) they have a add for powweb and for each click (or for this place redirect) they get paid
basicly they are ripping off powweb and spamming you with your permision id like to repost this to the admins at powweb ?
Originally posted by novaflare
thats not powweb thats 2 people i have seen mention this email
notice this line
(HELO cancun.stationsnetwork.com) they have a add for powweb and for each click (or for this place redirect) they get paid
basicly they are ripping off powweb and spamming you with your permision id like to repost this to the admins at powweb ?
Stationsnetwork.com is "spammer-for-hire" responsebase.com. They are spamming on behalf of powweb. In other words, powweb hired responsebase.com to spam for them, and they may have also purchased a list from them - a dirty one at that.
Whoever told you that powweb is somehow an innocent victim in all of this is yanking your chain.
-Bob
MannInc 08-06-2002, 04:02 AM Originally posted by Bud
Now, if manninc comes in here posting, well he is WAY WAY pro-Powweb (no matter what!) and doesn't even get paid for it, he's a moderator, I don't think he can be objective ;) LOL
MannInc, ex-mod for PowWeb here and I must insist all avoid PowWeb. I was a member there for 4 months and left in search of a better host (Host Nexus) with 8 months still left on my account over there.
This just goes to show how Pro-PowWeb I really am :D
mr monkey 08-06-2002, 02:17 PM MannInc aka Micheal Mann was terminated as a moderator because he couldn’t handle it. He is a megalomaniac and in a community forum, there is no room for one such as him.
Re: cancun.stationsnetwork.com. We did take on an advertiser that ended up using this "cancun.stationsnetwork.com" company to promote via email. We immediately terminated our association with that advertiser.
Powweb in no way supports UCE/UBE.
MannInc 08-06-2002, 02:37 PM Originally posted by mr monkey
MannInc aka Micheal Mann was terminated as a moderator because he couldn’t handle it. He is a megalomaniac and in a community forum, there is no room for one such as him.
Excuse me? I was removed as a moderator per my request as I'd found a real web host.
Read this and beware of PowWeb:
Does anyone care to see what PowWeb: The Perfect Hosting Solution has done this time? Not only have they blocked my ISP from accessing their forums (a big whoop to me), but they've gone ahead and changed my sig line in my account over there to the following:
"One of the biggest dopes of all time."
Why have they done this? Simply because I left their services for a real web host, one that doesn't post 99.7% uptime (which actually refers to their internet connection, not the server uptime) and states that it's not a guaranteed uptime.
Now does that sound like someone who was "megalomaniac"? Let's not forget who was the real creator of the PowWeb Help Site either, seeing how they couldn't offer it themselves.
On the help site, I've been gone from over there for over 2 months now and what has been added to it? 3 tutorials, all of which the information was already there.
"Powweb in no way supports UCE/UBE." Who the hell was doing this? Certainly not I. Maybe PowWeb should look at the Matt's FormMail script used over there. BTW, if I'm a spammer, than why has been hosting account not been removed?
If I were doing this, why has my Forum access been blocked now, when my account has been empty there for over 2 months? Inquiring minds want to know!
If anyone cares to be with a real webhost, give Host Nexus a try and stay away from wannabe hosts like PowWeb.
mr monkey aka starr pierce is "One of the biggest dopes of all time"
PowWeb sucks and actually it is the "Worst Hosting Solution"
FastLaneWeb 08-06-2002, 03:42 PM Interesting......
mr monkey 08-06-2002, 03:44 PM exactly. :)
FastLaneWeb 08-06-2002, 04:03 PM I am not going to take sides here or anything, but I think that editing his sig line was a little bit much.
I am happy with Powweb, and plan to stay there for a long while. OF course they are not perfect for everyone, but they work for me!
I also have to say that starr (and Andrew) have been extreemly helpful while I have been setting my accounts up at Powweb.
Keep up the good work powweb!
MannInc 08-06-2002, 04:20 PM Originally posted by FastLaneWeb
I am not going to take sides here or anything, but I think that editing his sig line was a little bit much.
That and the accusing myself of being a spammer after all the work I did on their help site (which wouldn't be there if not for my dedication). I am seriously thinking of bringing legal action against PowWeb for deformation of character and other charge, all for which I have a mountain of prove thanks to Starr aka mr monkey has posted. Also, their license to operate might be jeopardized now.
mr monkey 08-06-2002, 04:23 PM Hey Mikey, take some time and actually read the posts above yours. My post was a reply to both yours AND the ones above you. No one accused you of UCE/UBE.
MannInc 08-06-2002, 04:30 PM Originally posted by TMX
Stationsnetwork.com is "spammer-for-hire" responsebase.com. They are spamming on behalf of powweb. In other words, powweb hired responsebase.com to spam for them, and they may have also purchased a list from them - a dirty one at that.
Whoever told you that powweb is somehow an innocent victim in all of this is yanking your chain.-Bob
And PowWeb has the nerves to state that I'm a spammer, the one who hasn't used their service in over 2 months, after I fould a real web host.
MannInc 08-06-2002, 04:31 PM Originally posted by mr monkey
Hey Mikey, take some time and actually read the posts above yours. My post was a reply to both yours AND the ones above you. No one accused you of UCE/UBE.
This will be for the attorney general to decide won't it, that and the screen captures of the changes made by PowWeb employees to my forum account and my IP being blocked as well from the forums.
mr monkey 08-06-2002, 04:31 PM hehehe okie. Best of luck. :)
susannad 08-06-2002, 06:14 PM mmm I'm certainly waiting with great interest to see the results of all this .... screen captures should do the trick
and one question I must ask, is it only powweb admin/s who get so heated, so spiteful and jump up and down like schoolboys ?
are there other hosts out there who behave like this ?
just curious
MannInc 08-06-2002, 11:27 PM I see the junk info from my account was removed, but a screen capture with the information was provided to the California Attorney General with the information today. Expect to hear from the state soon.
Anyone else interesting in seeing how good PowWeb is, head on over to this address to see what they do when you find a real webhost and move on:
http://www.manninc.com/pwpost.gif
What a professional hosting :emlaugh:
FastLaneWeb 08-07-2002, 12:19 AM What did Manninc do that has caused all these problems?
susannad 08-07-2002, 12:25 AM oh he did a terrible thing
he changed hosts
viGeek 08-07-2002, 01:10 AM PowWeb are spammers, and that should be enough for you not to go with them. They have spammed my email, over and over, and I will report them each time. Blah Spam
MannInc 08-07-2002, 01:15 AM Originally posted by susannad
oh he did a terrible thing
he changed hosts
And now it appears my account information has either been changed over there or cancel it for no reason at all. Guess I need to be contacting myself a lawyer and sueing PowWeb. And they call themselves the Perfect WebHost.
QuantumK 08-07-2002, 01:18 AM I got screwed over once too. I know what you're going through. Now, I come to these forums, double check their policies, and ask friends about the place I am going to buy from before actually purchasing.
Originally posted by MannInc
And now it appears my account information has either been changed over there or cancel it for no reason at all. Guess I need to be contacting myself a lawyer and sueing PowWeb. And they call themselves the Perfect WebHost.
You can also file a complaint against them @ the Better Business Bureau...
sakushamishou 08-07-2002, 05:06 AM Originally posted by moen
OK, I am finally here. The person you have been waiting for. One that has no experience with Powweb, just the type of person you are looking for to post comments on Powweb service. Oh wait a minute, I don't have an opinion, because I'm not a customer. Sorry guys, sounds like you are going to have to listen to Powweb's customers to get an opinion on Powweb's service. Strange how that works. Oh wait, I'm a new user seeing how I don't have 1000 posts. Thus according to you, that means I don't have an opinion and shouldn't be posting. Sorry for wasting your time.
*bursts into laughter*
yes.
this is why i Never post, and Only read.
it seems that anyone at all who posts for the first time on any topic is immediately suspect.
fcsnc 08-07-2002, 07:47 AM Originally posted by fcsnc
I have a family reunion website at Powweb, also with a lot of pictures. For those who want further evidence that Powweb is a great place to hang your website (and those who are questioning whether Powweb has overloaded servers or stingy bandwidth):
http://GwinnReunion.org/
Update: www.GwinnReunion.org is no longer hosted at Powweb. The family got tired of the site being unreachable for hours at a time.
LOL... Such a great place hang your website :D
susannad 08-07-2002, 09:56 AM this is why i Never post, and Only read.
why ?
I've been sitting here since April, reading, assimilating and only now been moved to post
NexDog 08-08-2002, 10:36 AM MannInc is now a moderator at our forums and a very popular guy he is too! He's extremely knowledgeable and he like hanging around there plus he's a posting machine! Most definitely a great asset to any host.
Shame PowWeb has to treat him this way on their own forums and also blatantly lie and call him names at WHT.
Stick around monkey boy and PW "admin", you'll go far at WHT with your attitude. ;)
mr monkey 08-08-2002, 02:23 PM I'll be around, dont you worry. :)
MannInc 08-09-2002, 01:12 AM Originally posted by MTG
You can also file a complaint against them @ the Better Business Bureau...
This also has been done. Depending on the outcome of the BB and the State Attorney General, charges for fraud, deformation of character and undue cancellation of my hosting account will be filed in the courts out there in Los Angeles.
Hey, PowWeb has two listings with the BBB:
PowWeb, Inc. and PowWeb Web Hosting :confused:
AceWeb 08-09-2002, 01:17 AM I have not used "PowWeb" but few people I know said htey do not like it and hvaing probelms, one of them is leaving them. However, another person I know says that they are good.
MannInc 08-09-2002, 02:04 AM It appears that PowWeb, who had removed their remarks from my forum account (still locked out of and my hosting account cancelled for no reason) has lauched a new smear campaign. It can be seen below the original crap here:
http://www.manninc.com/pwpost.gif
DoobyWho 08-09-2002, 02:21 AM I havn't heard anything about PowWeb, but then again, i dont hear much of anything. haha.
NexDog 08-09-2002, 03:09 AM Ah, all good stuff. :)
Aplusmedia 08-09-2002, 12:45 PM I did a search on this board and there doesn't seem to be anything about this host.
:eek: I did a search and I got a few pages of results. THIS IS THE ONLY thread that has positive comments about powweb.
personally...I have been with powweb, plus several others, and i must say, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!
heres my postive and negative experiences with PowWeb
Positive:
Presale question, answered within a day.
Negative:
Support questions, fastest was 4 days, latest was no reply!
Email server hardly work. couldnt recieve email for a week!
Slow!! VERY SLOW!
im sure theres a few more little things..
my theory about this thread: POWWEB's LAME ADVERTISING METHOD
MannInc 08-09-2002, 01:04 PM Originally posted by Aplusmedia
Negative:
Support questions, fastest was 4 days, latest was no reply!
Email server hardly work. couldnt recieve email for a week!
Slow!! VERY SLOW!
im sure theres a few more little things..
Don't forget alomst an entire month when mail2 over there was setup wrong and not allowing anyone to use Eudora. They kept stating that we had the program setup wrong and it was our fault. At the end of the time, they "finally realized" they had the email software setup wrong.
mr monkey 08-09-2002, 07:09 PM Mikey, I wouldn’t expect anything less from you. I am glad you have found a "good host". One, if I am not mistaken, that has a has a server at, hmm, could it be, they host w/ the owners of this very forum, rack shack maybe? They also seem to be only simple resellers. Interesting. They also use Plesk as their control panel (webhosting in a can for web hosts that dont know what they are doing for those that don’t know what Plesk is).
Best of luck. :)
NexDog 08-09-2002, 07:52 PM Monkey-Boy. We are proud to have a network at RackSpace. Go there and find out how to run servers, my dear man. They are the best. Rackshack are a decent company. People who live in glass houses, know wht I mean? ;)
We are not resellers. Your investigation methods are about as decent as the content of your posts at WHT. What's wrong with Plesk? Jeeez, what an idiot! Can anyone believe the size of this guy's cahonas? Comes here, bashes ex-members, decent hosts and speaks out his rear on a decent DC. (Yea, cheap, but value for money).
Simple tracert on hostnexus.com would land you at RackSpace.
Need a lesson in Admin/Server Management (Seems you do if all counts are correct). Ring toll-free on 1-800-961-4454 and speak to Scott, Daniel, Brandon, Alex, Matt, Justin, Mike etc, etc, etc.
www.rackspace.com
Then go get some manners, a life etc. :rolleyes:
:angry: :angry: :angry: I'm done. %^*&^#*#%^& :angry: :angry: :angry:
mr monkey 08-09-2002, 07:55 PM Right on, we all had to start somewhere. :)
NexDog 08-09-2002, 08:07 PM Yea, blame it on VBulletin because you can't manage your own databases:
http://forum.powweb.com/showthread.php?threadid=7045
Laughing My Ass Off. Nice Spelling too!
You're so full of yourself. No wonder we are getting enquiries from your clients everyday. ;) ;) Keep it up, keep sending them over. :D
mr monkey 08-09-2002, 08:13 PM Re: "Nice Spelling too!".
I like to think of it as creative spelling. ;)
MannInc 08-09-2002, 08:16 PM Originally posted by mr monkey
Right on, we all had to start somewhere. :)
Start somewhere? You claim to offer 25GBs of bandwidth, yet offer no means to monitor it (even though you yourself have been stating it's coming soon in your own forums since november of last year). I offered a script to calculate the bandwidth, yet you weren't interested.
You're dogging Plesk, yet tons of web host (some probably listed elsewhere in these forums) use it? Why don't you go fix all the bugs (and there are quite a few I've found) and work on keeping your servers up and away from all of the DOS attacks, not to mention working harder to keep your servers from being listed on several spam block lists :D
NexDog 08-09-2002, 08:22 PM Originally posted by mr monkey
Re: "Nice Spelling too!".
I like to think of it as creative spelling. ;)
Why not address the issues rather than hide behind stupid remarks? You can't fool anyone here like you can on your own forums. Loads of vB owners here. Some of them quite adept at hacking it and familiar with the code. I've upgraded the forum, backed up the db, and replaced hacks dozens of times. Never noticed any bugs. ;)
susannad 08-10-2002, 07:51 PM have I missed the point entirely and this is a humourous thread ?
I had a good chuckle or two, that mr monkey person is a hoot !
keep up the comedy, the world needs it :stickout
mr monkey 08-12-2002, 07:02 PM Glad to oblige. :)
Usually I laugh and poke fun at myself (easy target ;), but little mikey and friends are awful big targets.
susannad, Owls "hoot"
Monkeys, well, have you seen them at the zoo? When they are in captivity and bored, they "entertain" themselves in special ways.
mr monkey 08-12-2002, 08:10 PM heheh some of em fling poo. I'm a well trained monkey. I only throw poo at lusers. :)
UmBillyCord 08-12-2002, 08:40 PM Originally posted by mr monkey
heheh some of em fling poo. I'm a well trained monkey. I only throw poo at lusers. :)
You must be covered in sh** then. ;)
I have been a subscriber to Powweb Hosting for almost 2 years now. I build websites for a living and have numerous sites hosted with Powweb. I have absolutely no affiliation with Powweb Hosting.
Generally, with Powweb you get what you pay for $7.77 a month worth of hosting. I have had numerous issues with Powweb over time. Lots of times their support staff send out the auto-reply to my problems but I get no actual response from support. When I do get a response it is seldom of any help. I have repeatedly asked them what they are going to do to better take care of my clients. Their usual reply is trying to point the blame elsewhere, or some kind of empty statement that they are constantly working to improve things. That they may be doing, they need to to stay in business.
I have had numerous outages on my clients sites. These sites are hosted on more than one of Powweb's servers. I have had issues with them all. When I point out that they have been offline for extended periods of time either no response or they try to discredit my claims. I am not a competitor of Powweb, I am a client.
If you read the contract you sign with powweb their guaranteed uptime is meaningless. I have pointed out to them in the past that they didn't meet their agreement and they point out to read the contract.
I still host with them for 5 or 6 accounts, because it is a pain to move them. All in all Powweb works, you do get $7.77 a month worth of hosting. If there was a better host around that I knew for sure was a solid host I would move all my clients.. until I know for sure then I am staying at Powweb.
Oh, someone above mentioned you get SQL, yes they say you do and you do. It is that you need to spend $30 extra to turn it on, but the service is free though it won't work without being turned on..
So, Powweb is a $7.77 a month company.
mr monkey 08-12-2002, 09:54 PM UmBillyCord, arnt we the glib one?
susannad 08-12-2002, 11:15 PM glib ? umBilly ?
yes, judging from that last post, he is articulate, eloquent and expressive
MannInc 08-17-2002, 02:00 PM It appears that with the cancelling of my account, a refund was issued :) Good job there PowWeb! Guess you're off my blacklist (for the time being) ;)
alphadesk 08-19-2002, 09:02 AM At the beginning of this thread.
They are offering for $7.77/month:
200 MB Storage
100 POP3 E-Mails
Yourname.com
Community Forum
12 GB Transfer
FrontPage 2002 Ext.
WebStats
SSL, MySQL, PHP4
Control Panel
99.7% Uptime
24/7 FTP Access
2 Months FREE
Web Based E-mail
And More!!
As of 8/17
They are offering for $7.77/month:
250 MB Storage
250 POP3 E-Mails
Yourname.com
Community Forum
25 GB Transfer
FrontPage 2002 Ext.
WebStats
SSL, MySQL, PHP4
Improved Control Panel
99.7% Uptime
24/7 FTP Access
2 Months FREE
Web Based E-mail
And More!!
The mySQL has recently been changed to $10 also SSL is included with the Value package free now.
There is no guaranteed uptime. It just states the uptime status.
If you read the contract you sign with powweb their guaranteed uptime is meaningless.
dance-music 09-15-2002, 06:45 PM I have been sitting here for over an hour now - waiting for powweb to come back up - nothing works and i mean NOTHING - no website, no ftp, no ops-control-panel, no email, no powweb.com website for christ sake, what is going on????
I hope they aint gone bust!
grr - and i was actualy here to praise them - and yes as luck would have it - they go down as i'm cruising the forum.
i wouldn't mind if i could comunicate with someone but i cant even get any email so there is no point in even contacting support and there is no way i'm calling them from the UK.
plus it is 10 to midnight GMT Sunday 15/09/02 - so i doubt i'm gonna get much more done today.
Always the way - you get a brainstorm - have all these wonderful ideas you've been mulling over all day - in a steady, actionable, focused train of thought and then when you go to apply them......SOD IT!
kkimmel 09-15-2002, 11:09 PM PowWeb Sucks. End of story.
hammondhill 09-16-2002, 07:07 PM I have been sitting here for over an hour now - waiting for powweb to come back up - nothing works and i mean NOTHING - no website, no ftp, no ops-control-panel, no email, no powweb.com website for christ sake, what is going on????
I hope they aint gone bust!
grr - and i was actualy here to praise them - and yes as luck would have it - they go down as i'm cruising the forum.
i wouldn't mind if i could comunicate with someone but i cant even get any email so there is no point in even contacting support and there is no way i'm calling them from the UK.
plus it is 10 to midnight GMT Sunday 15/09/02 - so i doubt i'm gonna get much more done today.
Always the way - you get a brainstorm - have all these wonderful ideas you've been mulling over all day - in a steady, actionable, focused train of thought and then when you go to apply them......SOD IT!
The reason Powweb was down is they moved to a new datacenter.
kkimmel 09-17-2002, 07:35 AM The reason is irrelevent.
MannInc 09-21-2002, 11:56 PM Originally posted by hammondhill
The reason Powweb was down is they moved to a new datacenter.
It's funny how they move from one person's datacenter to another, while claiming they have their own datacenter :laugh:
susannad 09-22-2002, 01:47 AM is that legal ?
Originally posted by susannad
is that legal ?
Probably not, it's false advertising...:rolleyes:
SoftWareRevue 09-22-2002, 10:54 AM Originally posted by 311
Probably not, it's false advertising...:rolleyes: If you rent something, or even a part of something; are you not allowed to refer to it as yours?
I don't agree with hosting entities that subscribe to this trend; I'm just saying that it may be legal.
susannad 09-22-2002, 08:53 PM I don't know, I can say my house is mine (even though the bank owns a sizeable whack)
where is the line drawn ? when I'm selling something ?
kkimmel 09-23-2002, 06:53 AM If I rent a dedicated server, it's MINE. If I rent an apartment or a house, thats mine too. And if I rent retail space in the mall, thats mine. Who actually owns the deed to it is unimportant. When you rent something, it makes it yours as long as you continue to pay for it. Thats what renting is about. When you stop signing checks for rental, then it's no longer yours.
Xzadfor 09-24-2002, 01:47 PM I had Powweb for a year into paying for 2 years. During that year I was constantly having the site bounce up and down and the mail never worked correctly.
Each time I contacted customer support I received a mail back saying simply (no kidding), "Mail is working fine, problem is on your end."
This from several different dialup accounts and such? I doubt it. SURE it's on my end. I finally was fed up with them and thier poor service so I cancelled.
Then of course, they claim that thier website lists that, essentially, they garantee no level of service and they don't give refunds after 30 days. Well let me tell you something firends; Just because ANY host says something in thier site, if it's not legal and irresponsible, it's not going to hold water.
In other words, if you pay for a service and they do not provide it, you can pursue a refund. This is regardless of what they decide to put up on thier website. You can always dispute the charge or part of a charge and probably win.
I Emailed them asking them how they think treating a customer so badly over about 80.00 is worth it to them? How badly do they need the money to not do the right thing?
Folks, we cannot let these people get away with this. It's ALWAYS worth fighting for what is right.
-X.
kkimmel 09-24-2002, 05:44 PM Yes, they suck.
And I registered www.powwebsucks.org for my own personal enjoyment. I am not sure what I will do with that domain yet...
susannad 09-26-2002, 06:21 AM not sure what you will do ?
tell us anyway
MenaceSan 11-11-2002, 05:06 PM Stay WAY WAY WAY away from POWWEB. Yeah technically they sound great on (virtual) paper. But they seem to be staffed by dishonest paranoids. I had a really bad expereince a month ago. I'm doing my civic duty and telling as many people about it as possible. IF you want the details go here http://www.menasoft.com/gripes.htm
They are completely dishonest and they are very likely to just take your money (paid a year in advance) and turn your site off for no reasons they will never explain. Sound like a company you want to do business with?
Lippy 11-11-2002, 08:47 PM I can't really say I have seen a "true" good listing about Powweb, and I am ignoring the ones posted in this thread due to obvious reasons.
Whipping Boy 11-30-2002, 07:30 PM Originally posted by MenaceSan
Stay WAY WAY WAY away from POWWEB. Yeah technically they sound great on (virtual) paper. But they seem to be staffed by dishonest paranoids. I had a really bad expereince a month ago. I'm doing my civic duty and telling as many people about it as possible. IF you want the details go here http://www.menasoft.com/gripes.htm
They are completely dishonest and they are very likely to just take your money (paid a year in advance) and turn your site off for no reasons they will never explain. Sound like a company you want to do business with?
First of all, I'm a newbie to this forum, and yes, you guessed correctly, my site is hosted with PowWeb.
That will probably, according to some previous responses in this thread, have one or two folks jumping up and down stating that my entrance here is scripted.........
The truth of the matter is, it is not that way at all.
Sure, PowWeb are not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but then, nor ar any of several hosting companies I have tried over the last few years.
I looked around before deciding on PowWeb, a decision I made based on what they had to offer in terms of value for money.
The clincher was the 25G monthly transfer, and since there's a few music files to D/L on my site, it made sense to have that bandwidth availability.
Lo and behold, within the first month the 'Space' server went haywire for a while, and it got fixed.
Next, a damned migration to a new location, and more site unavailability.....
Ditch 'em?
No, raise hell in the forums, and give Starr hell on wheels, I think it's called 'venting', and I like doing just that, the same as anyone else. I truly appreciated the fact that my rather verbose comments were allowed to remain on the server for all to read.
The upshot of the story is this:
In my honest opinion, PowWeb seem to get on with fixing things first, and making announcements seems to be a secondary priority, which now kind of makes sense to me. My site is stable, the up-time certainly approaches what they advertise, and I am now more than happy with what I'm paying for.
Abe Lincoln's famous words could be altered slightly to fit the bill here........... You can 'please' some of the people etc.
You know the rest.
Please feel free to delete this post if it is not what you wish to hear. Please feel free to flame me or even enter into reasoned discussion. At the end of the day, all I am doing is offering my personal point of view about my chosen host............
There's nothing wrong with that, is there?
Whipping Boy
sbglasby 11-30-2002, 07:47 PM Hmmmmmm,
Seem as though some of us were having bad days....
In reality, Sometimes we do things that we regret , sometimes we apologize for what we've done or said.
On forums like this, As with all other forums I've been in.
There is only ONE REAL thing about them, The POSITIVE comments and NEGATIVE comments don't cancel each other out.
The people making positive comments have no hidden reasons for making their positive comments , but There can be MANY, MANY, hidden reasons for making negative comments.
POWWEB , as with all hosting companies in business today, have their share of Customers that either signup , and have absolutely no clue what they are doing, or Don't bother to read the TOS.
Then when POWWEB support , doesn't troubleshoot someone's bad coding , or they get booted for running a WAREZ site , people get pissed. "ie:powwebsucks.org", tell me he didn't get booted .
POWWEB is a hosting company, they do not promise support on anything but their equipment. " Which I Might add , they do very well".
I'm sure all hosting companies have their issues, just as powweb has had in the past. But they have made some astounding strides in making sure their servers are in top notch shape, and working peoperly.
You can try other hosting companies, or you can try powweb, if you're new to all this, Just remember to read the TOS, at any hosting service company before you buy.
POWWEB does have a support forum of it's users, so if you are new to all of this, you'll probably find a lot of useful answers to your questions.
Whipping Boy 12-01-2002, 05:43 PM Originally posted by sbglasby
Hmmmmmm,
Seem as though some of us were having bad days....
In reality, Sometimes we do things that we regret , sometimes we apologize for what we've done or said.
On forums like this, As with all other forums I've been in.
There is only ONE REAL thing about them, The POSITIVE comments and NEGATIVE comments don't cancel each other out.
The people making positive comments have no hidden reasons for making their positive comments , but There can be MANY, MANY, hidden reasons for making negative comments.
POWWEB , as with all hosting companies in business today, have their share of Customers that either signup , and have absolutely no clue what they are doing, or Don't bother to read the TOS.
Then when POWWEB support , doesn't troubleshoot someone's bad coding , or they get booted for running a WAREZ site , people get pissed. "ie:powwebsucks.org", tell me he didn't get booted .
POWWEB is a hosting company, they do not promise support on anything but their equipment. " Which I Might add , they do very well".
I'm sure all hosting companies have their issues, just as powweb has had in the past. But they have made some astounding strides in making sure their servers are in top notch shape, and working peoperly.
You can try other hosting companies, or you can try powweb, if you're new to all this, Just remember to read the TOS, at any hosting service company before you buy.
POWWEB does have a support forum of it's users, so if you are new to all of this, you'll probably find a lot of useful answers to your questions.
An interesting and informative post. Thanks for that.
Whipping Boy
UmBillyCord 12-01-2002, 06:10 PM These are all good points. A host wouldn't be around if no one liked them. They have to have some customers that enjoy their service.
Looking at Webhosting Ratings, it looks like a hit or miss. However, if you read all the other host reviews, it is the same thing:
http://webhostingratings.com/plans/PowValue_PowWeb.html
mrzippy 12-01-2002, 07:09 PM Originally posted by kkimmel
And I registered www.powwebsucks.org for my own personal enjoyment. I am not sure what I will do with that domain yet...
Maybe get yourself sued for libel? Be very careful with things like that...
kkimmel 12-01-2002, 10:23 PM Pow Web sucks.
Thier support staff is incomptent. Thier sales staff are liars. They dont answer the phone. Thier admin panel is confusing and less than functional.
I pasted my story on another thread that I am too lazy to go and search for.
alphadesk 12-07-2002, 08:38 PM Average customer rating: 4.78 out of 10 based on 68 votes
Do your homework about customers. Statistics will show over and over again that an unhappy customer will tell at least 9 people about their bad experince. Now a happy customer will on the average tell 3 people.
So based on based on real life studies, this number looks poor but actually is very good.
SoftWareRevue 12-07-2002, 08:43 PM What real life studies are those? Where did you get your statistics?
My experience has seen just the oposite. Seems a person needs to be pushed to the brink of insanity before they end up bashing a host. While a lot of praise will come within a short time.
alphadesk 12-07-2002, 08:45 PM Dale Carnegie & Associates Inc.
I'm not talking about a study done for web hosting. I am talking about studies done for customers period. It still applies no matter what the business is. A customer is a customer.
Let me add that is the main reason to have the best customer service possible. I guarantee more will whine and moan than will praise. Hell that's really plays out in most life experiences.
Do your own study. Send out email to all your customers. I ask them if they are satisfied with your service. See how many answer back and what they say. The company I work for did ( 2nd largest publicly traded us electric company). The numbers were, for every 1 that praised or were satisfied 3 raised hell. After looking into the ones that raised hell 80% had been turned off for none pay at least once. Their fault not companies fault. A customer that feels they have been wronged will take the time to spread the bad word.
gmsmith 12-09-2002, 12:17 AM Well, I am a Powweb customer, who came across this site on a link from phpbb.com. My experiences with Powweb have been mixed. Overall, they advertise nice services for the price. In fact, I paid for a year of service with them. But, a recent run in with them left a bad taste in my mouth. My account was "suspended" for resource abuse, there was apparently a vulneratbility in the phpBB script that was easily remedied with a patch from the folks at phpBB. Anyway, instead of emailing me to notify me of the suspension, they just suspended the account, no notice. I happened to come across it in the middle of the day (8 hours after the suspension happened). When I called, to find out what was going on, the gentleman stubmled around for a bit then found that the account was suspended for resource abuse, to turn it back on, I needed to email the admins. I asked to speak to the admins, since I was on the phone with the office already and was told "the admins don't speak with clients." Okay fine, I can buy that, admins tend to be busy, so I email the admins, they turn the account back on and I make the modification to the phpBB script. I returned the email and asked if it was standard practice to not notify clients of suspended accounts, no response. The next day, I get a message asking "Has this been taken care of?", with a forwarded copy of yesterday's message about system abuse. I again, replied, yes it had been and asked if it was standard policy to suspened accounts with no notification to the client.
So the question isn't the suspension of the account, it is the level of customer service provided, or in this case not provided.
I have also had an account with Host Department, which I have been extremely satisfied with, no problems at all (I joined after the *****ing issues). And I am in process of moving my site over to Host Department because of the lack of customer service at Powweb.
kkimmel 12-09-2002, 02:31 AM Originally posted by UmBillyCord
These are all good points. A host wouldn't be around if no one liked them. They have to have some customers that enjoy their service.
Yes it could. There is a certain percentage of the population that is too dumb to realize when they have been screwed or thinks that they arent being screwed when they ware.
Sylviam 03-08-2003, 10:15 PM I have a friend who's in the process of moving his site off Powweb due to new SQL restrictions. I visited the host's forum itself and although the moderators help the clients, the paid techs such as Starr seem to avoid answering client's problems and instead read off the same company line and they make changes without notice to the clients. Powweb would be a host to stay away from. Powweb is NOT the perfect hosting solution.
Sylvia
Davros 03-09-2003, 05:47 PM Guess what, I'm a new user and I'll have to say I had nothing but problems on powweb. I would not recomend them to my worst enemy.
Thier tech support sucks, thier forums suck because you'll never hear anyone who speaks the truth about thier poor service. The Mod's and Admins will delete it. Waiting to hear from Tech Support you'll turn blue.. They don't properly inform thier customers about expected system downtime for maintanance in advance unless you live on thier forums, and chances are you'll get a notice after the fact there. If you do get Tech Support or Customer Service you're sure to get the run around or the blame dropped in your lap. (If you get a reply at all) I had them for 3 months and the entire period was a nightmare.. I'll never make that mistake again!
My domain was down for several days one week, and if you add up all the other random downtime you can tack on another week for that! Various services like FTP, SMTP/POP3, SSL, HTTP are up down more than I consider tolerable. Their claims of being up 99.7% is a lie. Thier servers may reply to a ping for the monitors but that does not mean that they are processing requests properly for various services. I was getting random parse errors on CGI and PHP. They were blamed on my scripts of course, yet what I fail to understand is why a script that worked suddenly stopped without any changes made to it. It worked once it should work again right?
I'm glad to say that I've recently re-located hosts to Altera Hosting (http://www.alterahosting.com) and I am a very happy customer. And, I'm actually paying MORE! I have had nothing but smooth sailing.. Absolutly ZERO problems.. If you are looking for a RELIABLE host provider and don't mind paying a few bucks more for QUALITY service, and to be treated like a valued customer like you deserve check out Altera Hosting (http://www.alterahosting.com) (http://www.alterahosting.com)
I'm not an employee, or getting any cutbacks, I'm just an honest and happy customer. I'll gladly endorce a hosting service who provides a reliable service.
PowWeb just goes to show.. You get what you pay for.. Cheap Service! Don't get fooled into paying for thier service unless you have a disposable website. I can't imagine anyone making a living off a website hosted on them.
If you want to hear the truth and see just how many customers have nightmares about PowWeb check here:
http://powwebsucks.org You'll see that there are pleanty of valid complaints against PowWeb on there. I've done alot of searches on PowWeb since my nightmare has ended and unfortunatly, I've found out too late they've made quite a few enemys according to several sources.. I should have done my homework sooner and saved my money..
I'm still waiting for my refund from powweb and I'm begining to doubt I will ever see it.
BTW.. Alphadesk is a Mod on PowWeb's Forums.. Who know's he's probably getting some kick backs too.. So of course he's going to brown nose..
If anyone would like detailed and documented information of my troubles with PowWeb I'd be glad to share.
sprintserve 03-09-2003, 05:51 PM Thanks for the feedback. That does explains Alphadesk attitude.
alphadesk 03-12-2003, 10:54 PM http://www.powwebsucks.org/bbs/
Please do take the time to check this out. 22 post since 9/25/02
Read them and many of the 22 post are one person, the owner of the site.
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Yes I am a mod on the PowWeb forum. Here is a PM I recieved and answered today. Think I'll get a kickback from iPowerWeb.com
No kick backs. I do it to help someone that needs help. This is'nt the first or the last that has come to the PowWeb forum and got help when they could'nt get it at their own host.
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pony...is this you? Is this site hosted at PowWeb.com or Ipowerweb.com? 2 different companies. The "PowWeb house script" won't work for this site. You will have to set up formmail script in cgi-bin, config for your server at iPowerWeb. I don't know what your paths would be for there. If you can tell me I'd be glad to help.
<form method="post" action="/cgi-bin/FormMail.pl">
<input type=hidden name="recipient" value="info@indigart.com">
Domain Name:indigart.com
Record last updated at 2003-03-03 08:00:43
Record created on 2003/3/3
Record expired on 2004/3/3
Domain servers in listed order:
ns1.ipowerdns.com 12.129.206.202
ns2.ipowerdns.com 12.129.206.203
Administrator:
xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx@frillys.net 61 07 49481056
frillys
lot 8 Paluma road
CannonValley,--,AU 4802
Technical Contactor:
Domain Manager admin@ipowerweb.com 310-314-1608
Ipowerweb, Inc
2800 28th Street Suite 205
Santa Monica,CA,United States 90405
Billing Contactor:
xxxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxx@frillys.net 61 07 49481056
frillys
lot 8 Paluma road
CannonValley,--,AU 4802
Davros 03-17-2003, 03:31 PM Originally posted by alphadesk
[B]http://www.powwebsucks.org/bbs/
Please do take the time to check this out. 22 post since 9/25/02
Read them and many of the 22 post are one person, the owner of the site.
Another thing.. Check this out 'powwebsucks.com'. Although its a dead domain. A Whois will show it's registered by Andrew Te, one of PowWebs Admins!
LOL You know they've got to suck if thier own employees are registering domains like that! Or perhaps they know they suck and have made too many enemys so they're covering thier own arse.
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Yes I am a mod on the PowWeb forum. Here is a PM I recieved and answered today. Think I'll get a kickback from iPowerWeb.com
No kick backs. I do it to help someone that needs help. This is'nt the first or the last that has come to the PowWeb forum and got help when they could'nt get it at their own host.
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Also a major brown noser.. Alphadesk can be found on practically every host rating service plugging PowWeb. Along with other members of the PowWeb staff such as Andrew and Lex.
I ask you.. How honest could a host provider be if thier own employees are posting positive reviews on a host provider rating system intended for customer input. Or if the same existing customers are using several domains on the same host to submit reviews in order to pad the polls.
Randall J. Berry
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susannad 03-25-2003, 03:43 PM good heavens !
this thread is still going around with the same comments being posted
haven't we had enough of the mods from powweb posting glowing reviews ?
Kimmikat 05-02-2003, 10:58 PM susannad,
I noticed that too, although this thread has really slowed down... :o
susannad 05-28-2003, 09:49 PM I had forgotten that I subscribed to this thread months ago - every now and then a reply pops up in my inbox - interesting
slowed down is the expression kimmikat, makes me want to poke a stick and stir it up a bit
MannInc 06-02-2003, 12:17 AM Can't believe people are still beating this ded host. PowWeb Suck. End of Story :D
anon-e-mouse 06-02-2003, 12:25 AM Originally posted by susannad
I had forgotten that I subscribed to this thread months ago - every now and then a reply pops up in my inbox - interesting
You shouldn't have any more after this one. ;)
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