Any late updates?

Still on track for a release within 2 weeks?

Cheers

G

I think so... perhaps you should try asking in the HostGui forums?

Originally posted by Smirks
I think so... perhaps you should try asking in the HostGui forums?

:eek: Good idea..

Haven't Heard much on HostGUI, but I am sure there will be a delay because there is always a delay no matter what. (I know because I have been developing a control panel for a few months now)

Originally posted by Neo3Net
Haven't Heard much on HostGUI, but I am sure there will be a delay because there is always a delay no matter what. (I know because I have been developing a control panel for a few months now)

I hear yeah..

please dont tell me its going to turn into another waiting game of false dates that its going to released etc.......

Maybe someone should find out from HostGUI? :confused:

Good Luck getting a straight answer from HostGUI's forum. It always like "We are in the home stretch just finishing some things up":eek:

Anyway, I hope its released soon, I am getting impatient :D

Their site hasnt been updated much. Still no live demo, only screenshots.

I suspect it will turn into a show just like Nocsoft (remember that one...its dead and buried)

at this point

HostGUI = vaporware

im not going to even give a second thought to it at this point. It would be adviseable to HostGUI to even provide a demo.....anyone can create nice pictures of a control panel.......

IMO, You're people are just impatient. I can't say much but anyways. HostGUi doesn't want to reveal a Demo because other people can then steal those ideas and put them into there Control Panel just like another one I know of. As they said you should post on HostGUi Forums about HostGUi not on Web Hosting Talk. WHT is not a HostGUi forum. Just because Greg is a member here you shouldn't go posting stuff... Just like people using this to get Support when there hosting company is support. If you want to know anything about it I prefer you talk to Greg or visit HostGUi forums. No, I have nothing to do with HostGUi and neither am I a staff but I do know that this is not a forum for HostGUi. For those that are to lazy or don't know the url to the Forums or just don't feel like going there it is http://hostgui.com/support/forum/.

Originally posted by TimPD
As they said you should post on HostGUi Forums about HostGUi not on Web Hosting Talk. WHT is not a HostGUi forum.

Oh give me a break already! It's okay for you guys to post about it, run polls about it, even release Press Releases about it...but when asked to publicly clarify if it is still on track for its expected release date, all of a sudden WHT is *not* the place to discuss the control panel?

You even post dedicated server offers with HostGUI included Tim ("when released" of course).

Do try to bear in mind that some of us have been waiting, on and off, for months for this thing to see the light of day. We've been put off and off and off about it. Now I can hear all the "but wouldn't it be better to wait for a proven product"...sure it would but I don't think there's anything untoward asking whether the current quarter (that's a span of 3 months) is still going to see the release of the control panel or not.

Just like people using this to get Support when there hosting company is support.

Nonsense. WHT has been used enough to raise public awareness of it already. Going back as far as September if not before (http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=21183&perpage=15&pagenumber=2) when the release data was Oct 30.

To tottle off to hostgui.com and be told "be patient, we're still ironing out the bugs you know" is an insult to those of us who have been told it's just around the corner for months.

I don't think an update in this forum is unjustified.

Regards

Gary

Oh give me a break already! It's okay for you guys to post about it, run polls about it, even release Press Releases about it...but when asked to publicly clarify if it is still on track for its expected release date, all of a sudden WHT is *not* the place to discuss the control panel?

I couldn't agree more! I can't believe the hype they have caused for something that can't even be proven. People even advanced ordered. What if it is a lemon??? You lose.

What happened to NOCsoft? What happened to the proprietary Jumpline project? What about the BS post Gearhost made a few months ago about their project? What happened to about 3 other hyped-up CP projects? Why does it take years for new releases to come from Plesk or Ensim? They have huge budgets!

It is simple. People start CP development and can quickly build two things. 1) The basic GUI/interface - the look and feel is easy. 2) The logic behind it - how you want it to work. This can be done quickly.

Now for the hard part - bring the two together into a seamless operation. What seems the easiest is the hardest by far. We know, we started some basic development for our company. It has been over a year now and we are still months away.

What amazes me is why people fall for this hype, day in and day out. Don't they look at history as something to give then some understanding of the future? People, save yourself the trouble and move on until you can actually see finished product.

Also, the CP business is a commodity. So good luck to those without funding to quickly develop and incorporate new features or software updates.

I can see both sides of the story but the real question that comes to mind is where has it been said that HostGUI will not be released by the end of the month? I have not seen anyone from the HostGUI team post or mention it here or on their forums, in fact this question has been asked directly on HostGUI forums and the answer was that it was still on track for release the first quarter of 2002. So personally, I will have to take the HostGUI team on it's word and hope this holds true. If it does then they did what seems nobody else in the CP industry can and that's release when they say they are going to, the first time around. If they dont then add them to the list with all the others and play the waiting game.

The DEMO question has also been answered on the HostGUI forum as well. So Tim's advise of visiting their forum may shed some light on the questions as it seems most have been discussed there in the past.

I am not affiliated in any way with HostGUI and these are my personal opinions. Yes I am one of the so called crazy people that pre-ordered HostGUI and if it is a flop then that is the cost of doing business but if it truely is everything that it says it is well then I guess HostGUI can talk the talk and walk the walk.

Again these are just my opinions and everyone knows how the old saying goes :)

Originally posted by DigitalXWeb
where has it been said that HostGUI will not be released by the end of the month?

It has only just been brought to light that the plan may be to release it internally on their own servers to pre-order clients for the first two weeks, and then it would be "a few additional weeks" before you can get HostGUI on a server outside of their network.

All I'm asking for is an open comment in response to my post, to update all the other comments about it on WHT over the last 6 months or so.

Cheers

Gary

Gary,

I was aware of this announcement but I thought this was common knowledge while the pre-order deal was going on. Perhaps I am mistaken but I thought it was said that during the pre-order offer all pre-order customers would get precedence on product delivery and installation over non pre-order customers whom would have to wait. Perhaps this was overlooked during the "I can't believe people are pre-ordering vaporware" debate or maybe I am wrong.

I am not aware of pre-order clients having to use HostGUI's internal servers from what I have been told the product is being installed or is able to be installed on the pre-order clients server. Was that a typo??

Either way thanks for the clarification.

Hi Everyone,

Let my chime in here before the rumors run ramped. Gary, if this doesn't answer your questions please point me to the post in particular that you wanted a response on.

Has a date ever been set or is one set now? No
Why? As with any product as we test it and allow others to test it we may find issues or things that need to be addressed before its live on hundreds of servers, thousands of sites, and expected to support a professional environment.

Will a date ever be announced? Not likely, if so it may only be the day prior to the release. The very moment we and the others that are testing is are 100% happy with everything and have been for a little while then we will release it.

That old thread from last year was posted when a hired team of programmers were working on HostGUI. They never could pull it all together and meet any timelines. We finally built our own team of 5 professionals and accomplished more in 3 months than the previous team did in a year.

We have not advertised or promoted HostGUI in a single advertisement since that Sept thread, why? Just like you we do not believe that people should put their business on hold in anticipation of something as elaborate as HostGUI that takes a significant amount of programming and skill to complete. If you need something now then by all means , I will be the first one to tell you to choose from the current available options. In a few weeks time we aim to add HostGUI to that list.


Now for the big questions:

Is HostGUI expected to be released by the end of the month? Yes

Will the release only be available to pre-order and JaguarPC shared/dedicated/colo clients at first? Yes

HostGUI is on track as we have stated. We have not set a date or announced a release date, only an estimate. We do hope and plan to stay with that estimate and, as another WHT user stated above, be the first to ever announce and deliver on an estimate.

If by some odd occurrence we do not release HostGUI by the end of the month, I will promise that we will be able to set a "no later than" date for you guys to bank on by then. But don't anticipate seeing that since as I said before, we do still plan a release by the end of this first quarter. Geez, now that this has turned into a Greer-like post I will have to cut it off :) .

Regards,
Greg

Originally posted by Jag
Gary, if this doesn't answer your questions please point me to the post in particular that you wanted a response on.

Thanks Greg. I just figured it was time for this particular forum to receive this update, and appreciate your response.

I recall reading one other person at least on your forums being surprised that it was only being released in-house first. It does push forward the "release" date futher than we expected, but now we have a better idea of our plans for the next month or so.

Cheers

Gary

Id like to thank everyone for their interest and strong support for HostGUI even though we have not advertised or tried to get attention. Others did manage to make a few threads like this that kicked up some interest before we were ready to spill the beans. When the time has come to let you guys know about "Tim_Greer Panel" , I mean HostGUI :) , we will post on the advertising sections. Tim, James, Wes, Suchandra, and Matt have been working very hard. Tims skills are complimented by that of the others which all have their own niches in programming that fill any void of another member of the team. When we are ready to go I will have them all frequent the forums and answer any questions you have at that time.

YAY.....FINNALY ANSWERS. Thanks Alot That really set everything and everyone straight. :D :) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

Looks like there is a release date set for HostGUI. Jag posted April 15, 2003 in the hostgui forum. This gives them well over a year to work on it.

Dont expect HostGUI for some time.

Before everyone rushes over to the hostgui forums, understand that Jag was not serious when he posted this date (at least I hope he wasn't :() Although I must say that things don't look promising if you were looking forward to a release within the next couple of weeks or even months.

http://www.hostgui.com/support/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=580

Originally posted by vselvara
Looks like there is a release date set for HostGUI. Jag posted April 15, 2003 in the hostgui forum. This gives them well over a year to work on it.

Dont expect HostGUI for some time.

vselvara, I was joking when I said that. Just trying to bring some humor into everyones life. Do not take that date seriously, we have not set a release date but when we do you can trust it will have 2002 in it, not 2003. I might just jump off a bridge if it were 2003.

Opps, there goes more of that humor. Doh!!

Originally posted by UmBillyCord


I couldn't agree more! I can't believe the hype they have caused for something that can't even be proven. People even advanced ordered. What if it is a lemon??? You lose.

What happened to NOCsoft? What happened to the proprietary Jumpline project? What about the BS post Gearhost made a few months ago about their project? What happened to about 3 other hyped-up CP projects? Why does it take years for new releases to come from Plesk or Ensim? They have huge budgets!

It is simple. People start CP development and can quickly build two things. 1) The basic GUI/interface - the look and feel is easy. 2) The logic behind it - how you want it to work. This can be done quickly.

Now for the hard part - bring the two together into a seamless operation. What seems the easiest is the hardest by far. We know, we started some basic development for our company. It has been over a year now and we are still months away.

What amazes me is why people fall for this hype, day in and day out. Don't they look at history as something to give then some understanding of the future? People, save yourself the trouble and move on until you can actually see finished product.

Also, the CP business is a commodity. So good luck to those without funding to quickly develop and incorporate new features or software updates.

How about AUCC? That went nowhere.

The guys at VDI are still working on AUCC - although I don't believe they have an eta of late. They have been busy dealing with Verizon lately though, and getting the redundant links in...

Are all new CP's delayed? If so why do they set a releaser date they can't manage?

Further more what about all the people that already signed up for Hostgui for example. ARe they lost their moeny or what?

Jag, I knew you were joking. It is not possible to give anyone a fixed date so you did the right thing and gave yourself enough time. You also kept your promise to give a "no later than" date. :)

Originally posted by Jag

I might just jump off a bridge if it were 2003.

I'll jump with greg if Hostgui would be released as late as 2003. But of course I'd let him jump first so I can see how he lands.

Starhost-
FYI Hostgui has never stated a release date for this very reason. Delays are bound to happen no matter what with software development, so it is to be expected, the question now is just how long the delay be? Also, take a look at the Hostgui forums to see how the Hostgui team compensated the pre-payers, as it was a very fair offer.

Steven

I will have a look.

Though I must say that almost everybody was counting on march 31st. And on the forums they didn't say it wasn't correct. Atleast I couldn't find a post.

I'm also a little bit disappointed when I know they have a delay on HostGUI panel, cause I planned to start offering competitive reseller packages and earn some money. However, nevermind, I still trust them and hope they can really release it in Q2.

seeing the Control panels for 7 years, it's not a quick snap and play application. Complex security issues, deciding on "If you are" going to use GPL software, or reinventing the wheel.

Deciding what is the same as others, what makes it better then the other. Who decides that its an easy to use interface.

There are many issues, setting a date is hard, what is worse is setting a date and then it passes. but on the other hand do you sit quiet and release something out of the blue.

no one can say what is the best option but, the fact of the matter is, someone will use it no matter how good / bad or even is the price is high.