hey guys ?
which one do you tninks better to go with ?

sailors: tranxacgloabl ? (plan #1)
or the new thread in special offers jkehe, considering that he offers cpanel for $50 a month ? (the $89 plan)

All I dare say is that Sailor is a nice guy with a healthy businuss (in my opinion), but I refrain from saying who to choose, as that's up to you and both plans are very attractive... I know I'd have a hard time making a choice between the 2. Jkehe's pricing is more competetive, but Sailor's servers come with multi-homed bandwidth, though I thought I read something about jkehe adding a second provider soon...

I would look carefully at how much redundancy is provided, if any at all. I believe the one Cogent-only (meaning no backup if cogent goes down) whereas the other has at least two primary connections so if something happens to one your site will still be online.

I have worked with both gentlemen before and both have good offers. It appears that Jeff Kehe (ServerHost) has some extra machines he is willing to blow out real cheap to get them back online. If you need CPanel, and you don't mind cogent bandwidth, this is a great deal that cannot be beat.

By the way, I know the data center ServerHost is putting these in is directly located in a carrier hotel where cogent comes in Atlanta. Bottom line: if you are going to use cogent, this is a good place to do it. The routes are pretty good to there too.

DV2 (Jeff Hinkle) is basically right across the street with his data center. LOL

DV2 (Jeff Hinkle) is basically right across the street with his data center. LOL
What does the LOL mean???

Originally posted by panopticon

What does the LOL mean???

Seriously :confused: LOL = Laugh Out Loud :laugh:

Originally posted by kwimberl
By the way, I know the data center ServerHost is putting these in is directly located in a carrier hotel where cogent comes in Atlanta. Bottom line: if you are going to use cogent, this is a good place to do it. The routes are pretty good to there too.

Well, actually, right now, 55 Marietta is where Cogent is moving all of the peering to Atlanta to, from what I hear. There is fiber connecting the two buildings, however, since they are directly across the street from each other. 230 Peachtree (where NetRail used to be) is where the peering goes on right now, I believe. Don't quote me on that, though. ;)

Originally posted by kwimberl
DV2 (Jeff Hinkle) is basically right across the street with his data center. LOL

There are a lot of competitive advantages to being in 56 Marietta Street due to the 21 fiber providers in the building, the security is a lot better, and the free cross-connects throughout the building. 55 is a nice building, but doesn't offer as much flexibility for companies in this industry, IMO.

2. Jkehe's pricing is more competetive, but Sailor's servers come with multi-homed bandwidth, though I thought I read something about jkehe adding a second provider soon...

We are investigating adding other providers, or just using our multi-homed bandwidth as the backup. We'll have more info for everyone about this soon.

We are investigating adding other providers, or just using our multi-homed bandwidth as the backup. We'll have more info for everyone about this soon.
I also wish that there would be some more low-priced $100/month offers with less but better quality multi-homed bandwidth, even if it were only 65-100 GB per month instead of 300 GB per month.

DV2 (Jeff Hinkle) is basically right across the street with his data center. LOL
What does the LOL mean???


Seriously :confused: LOL = Laugh Out Loud :laugh:

I wanted to know why he was laughing out loud at Sailor's datacenter :confused: :confused: :confused:

I also wish that there would be some more low-priced $100/month offers with less but better quality multi-homed bandwidth, even if it were only 65-100 GB per month instead of 300 GB per month.

Hey scott2,
By "better quality multi-homed" bandwidth, I'll assume you mean offers utilizing providers such as uunet, c&w, qwest, and sprint. If so, generally their pricing is very expensive (compared to Cogent/Aleron and even Yipes) so in order to sell 65-100 gigs of bandwidth, the colocation price alone would be higher than $100/month. Take for example a DS3 from c&w which comes to around $15,000/month. With 45 mbps on a 30 day cycle, you have about 14580 gigs of bandwidth. That comes to around $1 a gig. Assuming 80 gigs for $100/month (colocated), that leaves some $20 to cover extraneous costs such as electricity, rack space, and technicians costs for the ISP to break even (Which won't happen...the above mentioned "extraneous costs" are more than $20). Add in a server for dedicated hosting, and the ISP is losing money on each purchase. The obviously solution is to oversell. Even then, however, the profit margin will still be too small to justify the hours spent managing the business.

I'm a newbie, but I've done a number of ping tests from different locations and from some Cogent/Aleron come out OK and pretty close to Teir1 bandwidth, but from others there is a huge difference (50 ms vs 70 ms from some, but 70 ms vs 250 ms from others which is a lot).

Is there any way to use intelligent routing to mix and match, utilizing some premimum bandwidth to locations where the cogent/aleron/yipes bandwidth has a real problem but utilizing the cheaper bandwidth wherever the speed is closer?

I'd even like to see more offers which offer Cogent/Aleron and Yipes in a multi-homed network to offer some gain in speed and also a lot more redundancy. There are lots of these 300GB offers, but I'd like to see more 75 and 100 GB offers bringing some other things to the plate. DV2 is the only one I know of who has brought multi-homed bandwidth to the $100/month market.

I would definitelly go with Jeff's Hinkle Dv2 Service. No questions asked, DVD2 its the best Host youll find anywhere. I only speek with past experience. My Expirience for One Year with Kehe's was anything but good, support or quality of service was not good at all. Get my word on this. Jeff's Hinkle offers what other dont: one on one personal consulting, 24 hour support, and of course liquid bandwidth, ive seen 2.8MB performance on my servers since the change, support and of course, better prices. Hope you make a right decisition. Hope my experience this past year helps you decide.

Originally posted by ewdesigners
I would definitelly go with Jeff's Hinkle Dv2 Service. No questions asked, DVD2 its the best Host youll find anywhere. I only speek with past experience. My Expirience for One Year with Kehe's was anything but good, support or quality of service was not good at all. Get my word on this. Jeff's Hinkle offers what other dont: one on one personal consulting, 24 hour support, and of course liquid bandwidth, ive seen 2.8MB performance on my servers since the change, support and of course, better prices. Hope you make a right decisition. Hope my experience this past year helps you decide.

This is untrue - and I'm surprised to hear you say this. I have a number of e-mails saved from you about "Excellent Service and Speed" and things of that nature. Moving from one side of the data center to the other (he was a customer of ours at DV2) does NOT make your performance increase. All but one of the outages you experienced were the same for all of DV2's other customers. All of the downtime was unacceptable, which was one of the major reasons we chose to leave DV2.

Originally posted by jkehe


This is untrue - and I'm surprised to hear you say this. I have a number of e-mails saved from you about "Excellent Service and Speed" and things of that nature. Moving from one side of the data center to the other (he was a customer of ours at DV2) does NOT make your performance increase. All but one of the outages you experienced were the same for all of DV2's other customers. All of the downtime was unacceptable, which was one of the major reasons we chose to leave DV2.

To quote from above:

LOL :stickout

Hmmmm

I dunno if I should comment - don't wanna step on anyones toes... I have 1 server with ServerHost and 1 server with eServers.biz/Cabalstudios/DV2. Both perform well.
I also have a 2nd server with Cabalstudios - which I run for a gaming company.

I can't really comment because as I said, I am both their customers and if I favour one over the other it looks bad. eServers.biz (Cabalstudios/DV2) did get my server up in about 24-36 hours after ordering and patched the kernal for free.

--James

Serverhost Multi-homed:

http://www.serverhost.com/speedtest.html

DV2/Tranxact Multi-homed:

http://www.tranxactglobal.com/speedtest/

i get nearly identicle speeds for the both of them. both now at 260 KB sec from the uk. DV2 was at 370 ish earlier thos morning. im guessing that its the whole being in the UK thing thats slowing them. ill try from our servers later. anyone else got any results?

Here is what I get:

Tranxactglobal.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
wget http://www.tranxactglobal.com/speedtest/11mbtest
--02:52:41-- http://www.tranxactglobal.com:80/speedtest/11mbtest
=> `11mbtest.1'
Connecting to www.tranxactglobal.com:80... connected!
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 11,814,847 [application/x-tar]
02:48:17 (1.44 MB/s) - `11mbtest.1' saved [11814847/11814847]
02:47:48 (1.50 MB/s) - `11mbtest' saved [11814847/11814847]
02:52:49 (1.46 MB/s) - `11mbtest.1' saved [11814847/11814847]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


Serverhost.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
wget http://www.serverhost.com/11mbtest
--02:51:17-- http://www.serverhost.com:80/11mbtest
=> `11mbtest'
Connecting to www.serverhost.com:80... connected!
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 11,814,847 [text/plain]
02:49:57 (356.68 KB/s) - `11mbtest' saved [11814847/11814847]
02:51:49 (363.95 KB/s) - `11mbtest' saved [11814847/11814847]
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just to give some background, since I'm sure the speed you get depends on where you are, here are the traceroutes to go with the speeds I got in the post above:

traceroute to tranxactglobal.com (209.51.157.227), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets

4 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.67) 20.503 ms 17.003 ms 17.919 ms
5 atl-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.102) 18.789 ms 15.584 ms 17.154 ms
6 so-2-3-3.pr1.Atlanta1.GA.us.netrail.net (205.215.1.209) 16.061 ms 18.657 ms 19.145 ms
7 205.215.2.6 (205.215.2.6) 17.552 ms 20.388 ms 18.273 ms
8 www.tranxactglobal.com (209.51.157.227) 16.912 ms 18.946 ms 24.466 ms


traceroute to serverhost.com (66.154.85.10), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets

4 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.67) 16.498 ms 16.773 ms 19.148 ms
5 atl-core-01.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.149) 19.439 ms 18.571 ms 19.522 ms
6 atl-edge-08.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.90) 16.782 ms 18.415 ms 15.726 ms
7 internap1-customer.qwest.net (63.144.1.170) 17.941 ms 18.460 ms 17.351 ms
8 border4.ge3-0-bbnet2.acs.pnap.net (64.94.0.73) 18.101 ms 17.381 ms 17.540 ms
9 mariet-2.border4.acs.pnap.net (64.94.3.98) 18.139 ms 21.800 ms 19.521 ms
10 GlobalCompass.demarc.cogentco.com (66.28.28.234) 31.995 ms 31.595 ms 31.397 ms
11 core1-atl1-ag2.globalcompass.com (66.154.95.196) 33.868 ms 31.934 ms 32.726 ms
12 66.154.85.10 (66.154.85.10) 34.845 ms 38.492 ms 31.701 ms

Originally posted by panopticon
Length: 11,814,847 [application/x-tar]
Length: 11,814,847 [text/plain]

Maybe this has something to do with it? It looks like something happened when I downloaded it from him. I'll post something else for people to download.

I posted files off of layer1.cpanel.net just to make sure that the difference in file type would not affect the speed anyone was getting.

Originally posted by panopticon
traceroute to tranxactglobal.com (209.51.157.227), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets

4 atl-core-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.5.67) 20.503 ms 17.003 ms 17.919 ms
5 atl-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net (205.171.21.102) 18.789 ms 15.584 ms 17.154 ms
6 so-2-3-3.pr1.Atlanta1.GA.us.netrail.net (205.215.1.209) 16.061 ms 18.657 ms 19.145 ms
7 205.215.2.6 (205.215.2.6) 17.552 ms 20.388 ms 18.273 ms
8 www.tranxactglobal.com (209.51.157.227) 16.912 ms 18.946 ms 24.466 ms


panopticon, I'm surprised that your traceroute went thru Netrail links while my traceroute always goes thru the Aleron.net links. I'm wondering if dv2 also utilizes Netrail as their bandwidth provider?

I've run the speed tests for tranxactglobal/serverhost on my lousy cable connection here and here's the result for 11 MB file download:

tranxactglobal - 29.4 KB/sec
serverhost - 2.2 KB/sec

JFYI, it's daytime now and I live in another part of this world so cable speed here is not as fast as those of you in the US (I can only get a max of 40-50 KB/s download speed at night). But to see tranxactglobal hitting 29.4 KB/s average download speed during busy hours now really surprised me. Anyway, I'll try the tests again tonight and see if serverhost could do much better then.

One more thing I'd like to know, is the server configuration also affecting the speed test or it's just the network? I mean if tranxactglobal.com server uses XP1700 and serverhost uses P3 1 Ghz, does this have anything to with the download speed?

Anyway, this thread is getting more interesting
:D

The above tests were done from my hosting account, where TranxactGlobal.com is 5x faster than Serverhost.com.

Interestingly though from my local Satellite conneciton, Serverhost.com is more than a third faster than TranxactGlobal.com.

Tranxactglobal.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

54.3 KB/Sec ( 11 MB Test )

4 64.156.232.1 2078ms 1282ms 3532ms TTL: 0 (serial2-0-8.hsipaccess2.atlanta1.level3.net ok)
5 64.159.3.81 1968ms 1172ms 3422ms TTL: 0 (ge-6-2-1.mp2.atlanta1.level3.net ok)
6 64.159.0.229 1843ms 2063ms 3313ms TTL: 0 (so-3-0-0.mp1.washington1.level3.net ok)
7 64.159.18.134 1734ms 1953ms 3204ms TTL: 0 (gigabitethernet7-2.core2.washington1.level3.net ok)
8 204.157.5.62 1641ms 1859ms 3094ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS)
9 205.198.2.40 1532ms 1750ms 2985ms TTL: 0 (ge1-1.atluna.as.unaatlga.aleron.net ok)
10 205.198.2.130 1422ms 1672ms 2875ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS)
11 209.51.157.227 1313ms 1547ms 2766ms TTL:238 (www.tranxactglobal.com ok)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Serverhost.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

84.4 KB/Sec ( 11 MB Test )

4 64.156.232.1 719ms 1281ms 2797ms TTL: 0 (serial2-0-8.hsipaccess2.atlanta1.level3.net ok)
5 64.159.3.73 640ms 1391ms 2688ms TTL: 0 (ge-6-2-1.mp1.atlanta1.level3.net ok)
6 64.159.3.70 1390ms 1281ms 2578ms TTL: 0 (gigabitethernet10-2.hsipaccess1.atlanta1.level3.net ok)
7 63.211.125.62 1312ms 1203ms 2484ms TTL: 0 (unknown.level3.net fraudulent rDNS)
8 216.22.67.153 1203ms 1093ms 2375ms TTL: 0 (atlcgarc1m6-so-0-1-0.ip.epik.net ok)
9 216.235.146.2541062ms 1375ms 2234ms TTL: 0 (globalcompass-cus.mariettafiber.net bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
10 66.154.95.196 953ms 1266ms 2125ms TTL: 0 (core1-atl1-ag2.globalcompass.com bogus rDNS: host not found [authoritative])
11 66.154.85.10 844ms 1156ms 2015ms TTL:242 (No rDNS)
12 66.154.85.10 719ms TTL:242 (No rDNS)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If you notice my ping times here, I guess you can see why it's sometimes hard to determine which connectino is more responsive :D

TBH - for me, they appear the same.

ftp.uu.net - with the uumap.tar.Z file test, I get about the same - max being 2.47mb/s.

--James

mb or MB :) srry to ask but it makes a big diff :)

I'm surprised that your traceroute went thru Netrail links while my traceroute always goes thru the Aleron.net links. I'm wondering if dv2 also utilizes Netrail as their bandwidth provider?
Me too - hopefully Sailor will give more detail. I think he did mention some "private peering" in additoin to their Cogent and Aleron links, so this is probably part of those additonal links.

One more thing I'd like to know, is the server configuration also affecting the speed test or it's just the network? I mean if tranxactglobal.com server uses XP1700 and serverhost uses P3 1 Ghz, does this have anything to with the download speed?
At these speeds I seriously doubt it. I think it would be about the same speed coming from a Pentium 100 as we're just sending a static file out the ethernet port. I suppose if the server were really loaded down the access to the HDD could be delayed by a second, or if the one server had a 4500 IDE disk and the other a 15K SCSI disk there might be a partial second of difference there. But I think they're fairly comparable here and neither is overloaded.

DV2/eServers/Cabal

ncftp / > get uumap.tar.Z
uumap.tar.Z: 8.13 MB 2.41 MB/s


ServerHost

ncftp / > get uumap.tar.Z
uumap.tar.Z: 8.13 MB 2.28 MB/s



TBH fluctuations aside, they are practically the same.

James

James it would be interesting to know the route you took to both.

I think mine from serverhost was slowed down because it went through their cogent link (even though this is their multihomed, it appears cogent is one of the routes included) while tranxactglobal.com was presumably speeded up a little since I went through netrail rather than their aleron link.

eServers.biz

traceroute to ftp.uu.net (192.48.96.9), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 209.51.131.241 (209.51.131.241) 0.586 ms 0.799 ms 0.459 ms
2 f13.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.28.253) 2.199 ms 1.872 ms 1.669 ms
3 g0-2.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.241) 1.538 ms 0.442 ms 0.957 ms
4 cogent-gw.above.atl4.cogentco.com (64.124.51.161) 0.766 ms 1.654 ms 0.508 ms
5 core2-atl4-oc48.atl2.above.net (208.184.232.17) 1.307 ms 3.743 ms 5.268 ms
6 dca2-atl2-oc48.dca2.above.net (208.184.232.49) 14.928 ms 17.810 ms 24.042 ms
7 iad1-dca2-oc192.iad1.above.net (208.184.233.126) 22.598 ms 13.445 ms 12.138 ms
8 core3-core4-oc48.iad1.above.net (208.185.0.141) 15.036 ms 11.937 ms 14.701 ms
9 100.ATM1-0.BR3.DCA6.ALTER.NET (204.255.168.25) 170.531 ms 172.083 ms 168.450 ms
10 0.so-3-1-0.XL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.122) 171.003 ms 171.728 ms 173.975 ms
11 0.so-0-0-0.XR2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.117) 511.362 ms 534.852 ms 538.422 ms
12 184.at-2-0-0.XR2.IAD5.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.50) 552.555 ms 536.726 ms 553.054 ms
13 501.ATM6-0.GW3.IAD5.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.1) 545.895 ms 547.944 ms 592.298 ms
14 pos5-0.soesr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net (207.18.173.162) 615.409 ms 602.110 ms 586.288 ms
15 gig1-0.esr-b-10-9-2.ash.ops.us.uu.net (198.5.240.36) 543.617 ms 534.268 ms 541.377 ms
16 neo-ftp.uu.net (198.5.241.101) 554.241 ms 555.439 ms 570.913 ms

Serverhost

admin@insomnia [~]# /usr/sbin/traceroute ftp.uu.net
traceroute to ftp.uu.net (192.48.96.9), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 dv2-atl-plusweb-lan1.dv2.net (209.51.142.1) 1.099 ms 0.669 ms 0.310 ms
2 f13.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.28.253) 2.204 ms 1.304 ms 0.819 ms
3 g9-2.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.5.245) 1.546 ms 0.876 ms 0.649 ms
4 cogent-gw.above.atl4.cogentco.com (64.124.51.161) 0.755 ms 3.899 ms 6.318 ms
5 core2-atl4-oc48.atl2.above.net (208.184.232.17) 5.851 ms 12.476 ms 12.716 ms
6 dca2-atl2-oc48.dca2.above.net (208.184.232.49) 24.238 ms 17.428 ms 14.356 ms
7 iad1-dca2-oc192.iad1.above.net (208.184.233.126) 12.723 ms 12.780 ms 14.577 ms
8 core3-core4-oc48.iad1.above.net (208.185.0.141) 12.726 ms 17.615 ms 12.388 ms
9 100.ATM1-0.BR3.DCA6.ALTER.NET (204.255.168.25) 174.076 ms 175.775 ms 180.001 ms
10 0.so-3-1-0.XL2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.122) 200.382 ms 180.473 ms 179.160 ms
11 0.so-0-0-0.XR2.DCA6.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.117) 405.193 ms 374.303 ms 375.497 ms
12 184.at-2-0-0.XR2.IAD5.ALTER.NET (152.63.35.50) 393.573 ms 380.269 ms 367.199 ms
13 501.ATM6-0.GW3.IAD5.ALTER.NET (152.63.38.1) 370.483 ms 387.674 ms 474.287 ms
14 pos5-0.soesr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net (207.18.173.162) 418.496 ms 411.950 ms 400.540 ms
15 gig1-0.esr-b-10-9-2.ash.ops.us.uu.net (198.5.240.36) 425.705 ms 368.137 ms 378.467 ms
16 neo-ftp.uu.net (198.5.241.101) 389.162 ms 401.859 ms 397.702 ms


Again, about the same

James

Originally posted by WildWayz
eServers.biz


Again, about the same

James

This has nothing to do with the new network, which is what everyone is interested with. Your server is still at DV2.

doh!

Then move it over :D

--James

hello :)

could somebody please comment the following tracert?



Target Name: tranxactglobal.com
IP: 209.51.157.227
Date/Time: 12.03.2002 01:26:04

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
2 33 ms 31 ms 36 ms 37 ms 35 ms 37 ms 35 ms 36 ms 44 ms 60 ms DSL7000-FE0-0.ycn.com [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx]
3 38 ms 39 ms 35 ms 42 ms 44 ms 38 ms 36 ms 42 ms 46 ms 44 ms ATM155-vie1-1.ycn.com [212.88.170.162]
4 57 ms 38 ms 44 ms 36 ms 36 ms 39 ms 35 ms 83 ms 49 ms 43 ms vix.above.net [193.203.0.45]
5 36 ms 42 ms 48 ms 47 ms 38 ms 35 ms 45 ms 47 ms 43 ms 45 ms core1-vie2-oc3.vie3.above.net [208.184.231.86]
6 49 ms 53 ms 50 ms 46 ms 53 ms 49 ms 52 ms 53 ms 56 ms 52 ms fra2-vie2-oc12-1.fra2.above.net [64.125.31.13]
7 46 ms 52 ms 50 ms 54 ms 108 ms 52 ms 108 ms 50 ms 56 ms 58 ms core1-fra2-oc48.fra1.above.net [62.4.64.30]
8 55 ms 56 ms 54 ms 64 ms 75 ms 60 ms 82 ms 55 ms 55 ms 53 ms ams2-fra1-stm16.ams2.above.net [64.125.31.137]
9 70 ms 62 ms 64 ms 66 ms 66 ms 64 ms 73 ms 68 ms 68 ms 67 ms lhr3-ams2-stm16.lhr3.above.net [64.125.31.146]
10 138 ms 137 ms 131 ms 143 ms 136 ms 134 ms 133 ms 133 ms 139 ms 145 ms dca2-lhr3-stm64.dca2.above.net [64.125.31.186]
11 146 ms 146 ms 150 ms 144 ms 153 ms 144 ms 142 ms 142 ms 151 ms 153 ms atl2-dca2-oc48.atl2.above.net [208.184.232.50]
12 152 ms 149 ms 141 ms 149 ms 148 ms 148 ms 145 ms 141 ms 141 ms 150 ms core1-atl2-oc48.atl4.above.net [208.184.232.18]
13 148 ms 154 ms 160 ms 143 ms 143 ms 147 ms 149 ms 149 ms 153 ms 146 ms above-gw.atl4.cogentco.com [64.124.51.162]
14 146 ms 148 ms 146 ms 146 ms 149 ms 150 ms 146 ms 142 ms 143 ms 149 ms g49.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com 66.28.5.242]
15 155 ms 146 ms 147 ms 145 ms 145 ms 149 ms 155 ms 269 ms 157 ms 158 ms dv2.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.28.254]
16 156 ms 158 ms 147 ms 150 ms 151 ms 158 ms 145 ms 152 ms 154 ms 162 ms dv2-atl-core-core-a.dv2.net [209.51.131.1]
17 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms 153 ms 155 ms 156 ms 151 ms 143 ms 151 ms 153 ms www.tranxactglobal.com [209.51.157.227]


I'm quite sad coz I'm just able to download the testfile at 54KBPS (usually i have about 200)... further isn't it strange that the routing goes across london and then jumps to US?

Most US servers I have seen and used, leave europe already in Frankfurt (germany) by using eqip net from austria to washington dc......

tranxactglobale goes with above.net but this means going across the netherlands and uk, too.


I'd be happy to read your comments... thanks!

20:48:20 (553.56 KB/s) - `11mbtest' saved [11814847/11814847] -- from Abovenet
New York


02:42:35 (107.80 KB/s) - `11mbtest' saved [11814847/11814847] -- from level3
Orlando

traceroute to tranxactglobal.com (209.51.157.227), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 unknown.Level3.net (63.209.100.1) 0.397 ms 0.329 ms 0.245 ms
2 unknown.Level3.net (63.209.100.1) 1.473 ms 0.472 ms 0.653 ms
3 gige5-0-100.hsa2.orl1.level3.net (63.209.120.29) 1.421 ms 7.266 ms 4.234 ms
4 ge-6-0-1.mp2.Orlando1.Level3.net (64.159.0.45) 1.927 ms 1.917 ms 2.932 ms
5 so-2-0-0.mp2.Washington1.Level3.net (64.159.1.2) 44.530 ms 23.709 ms 39.052 ms
6 gigabitethernet8-2.core2.Washington1.Level3.net (64.159.18.166) 26.066 ms 46.042 ms 23.534 ms
7 204.157.5.62 (204.157.5.62) 25.099 ms 26.811 ms 28.979 ms
8 ge1-1.atluna.as.unaatlga.aleron.net (205.198.2.40) 39.354 ms 38.371 ms 39.339 ms
9 205.198.2.130 (205.198.2.130) 102.708 ms 99.408 ms 97.580 ms
10 www.tranxactglobal.com (209.51.157.227) 102.175 ms 97.631 ms 103.422 ms

It seems like the thread as mainly been focused on connectivity, which is an important point but not the only one to consider. What about support? Looking at the colocation page at serverhost.com:

Advanced Technical Support (OS, Software, Hardware): $175/hour

Additional reboots (over five per server): $75/incident

I would never colocate a server with people who will charge me $175 /hour for tech support, this is ridiculous. **** happens, I had a desastrous issue with a server a few weeks ago and I required tons of reboots and a lot of support from my provider, when we finally found that the problem was the ethernet card, they replaced it for free (it was a colocated server). I did pay a few hundred dollars of tech. support but at $175, it would have cost me more than a thousand.


Also, what's with these $75 per incidents for reboots? Even if the first 5 are free it's still a rip off. It is really not that hard to push on a button. I am currently with tera-byte and even though they are not perfect, the level of support is amazing, especially for the price they are charging. I can call at ANY hour 365 days per year and a tech will answer the phone right away and help me with anything. This is really something that surprised me. Of course I do not know about the level of support at tranxactglobal or serverhost, but I would like to hear more about it instead of enless traceroutes.

I believe i started this thread a long time ago.

But now as a company who has both Rackshack and Tranxactgloabl I suggest ranxactglobal all the way.

Not that rackshack is bad but they are better !!

one this about rackshack is that their uptime is great however Ive been with tranxact global for 2 - 3 weeks so far and havnt experienced any downtime either so far !! and yes we do monitor the uptime of our servers via technicians and softwares !!