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Originally posted by Host Ultra
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Very nice terms you have there:eek:

Terms and Conditions

We reserve the right to terminate any account for any reason or no reason at all

Your a great contender for http://www.unlimband.com !!

:laugh:

All Sites Accepted (No WAREZ/File Storage/File Distribution Sites)

:confused:

Whats the catch?

Yes i have seen www.unlimband.com
I do offer unlimited space
What i mean is i dont put any limits on it which is true
Currently i have 375 accounts using 158mb of disc space using from between 1-2gb bandwidth/day TOTAL
my server provider (rackshack) allows me to use way more then that so why limit it when im using less then i can use? :D

cperciva i dont understand what your trying to say by quoting that line

MilkMan there is no catch
well i suppose it depends on your site content
I dont allow any kind of file distribution your unlimited space is for your website (htmls graphics scripts etc...) not for storing files
But i woulnt call that a "catch" because i clearly said that term

are you sure there's no catch?! :rolleyes:

Yes
Im sure :)

I guess Host Ultra hasn't met the real sucker webmasters (if you know what I mean, har har).

so if i had a web site - a community for ppl in recovery from eating disorders, a medium sized web site and a bulletin board, that wouldnt be a problem? :rolleyes:

Umm... the catch is the banner advertisement...? :eek:
Sounds fair enough to me if it's offered free...

:wavey:

So your on RS servers?

So All content is accepted except Adult, IRC and everything else that is on the tos at RS

Why dont you offer realistic amounts of space and bandwidth - everyone knows what RS supplies. Unless you have one of the cobalt specials that they did some time ago its 300GB bandwidth.

Dont understand - why not state you have a 20GB drive or what ever you have rather than unlimited?

Its much better to be truthfull....you have not got unlimited resources...so why state it?

Sparkle adult content and IRC is only not allows on Virtual Server accounts that RS give
I have a dedicated server so i can host adult content if i want :stickout
As for irc servers i dont host them and i dont plan to either

Violation Of Rackshack Virtual Accounts: It is absolutely forbidden to host pornographic content or IRC servers on Virtual Server Accounts. Virtual Server Accounts found hosting this material will be subject to immediate cancellation without refund.

I have a 40gb hard drive and 300gb bandwidth
And i can always get more servers if needed :)
Plus they dont charge (yet) for going over 300gb

Alanis yes that wouldnt be a problem

We could do to backup our servers elsewhere - in total maybe 30Gb of data needs to be backed up nightly?
Would you let us backup our servers on your unlimited diskspace and bandwidth plans?

Lol... do a search on unlimited. It doesn't exist.

LOL :rolleyes:
We are not a place for file storage
It says that in the terms

I've got a friend that runs a webdesign place and has sites for about 20 companies and one of the sites gets about 30gb a day. The site is pretty huge. I'm glad there is "no catch" because I'm sure he'd be absolutly thrilled that he can host all his sites for free. Although, you can remove sites for "no reason at all" so I dunno. ;)

Im sure that wouldnt be a problem
If he gets that many hits to use up 30gb then im sure that money from ads will pay for the bandwidth :D

I am currently looking for a dedicated server. Where do you get these "Unlimited" hardrives????

The answer to unlimited space is simple...
I can add more hard drives and servers quicker then customers can fill them :D

Hey mind if i host my main website on your server? It does in excess of 540 GB transfer a month......

Hehe
:sickface:

Sure... i said it was unlimited :D
as long as it is not a file distribution site which i do not allow
If you get that may hits then money from ads should cover your usage

Originally posted by fractiousws
Hehe
:sickface:

yeah there's definately no better way of expressing our feelings about unlimited b/w than that smiley ;)

unlimited b/w har har...

Originally posted by Host Ultra
Sure... i said it was unlimited :D
as long as it is not a file distribution site which i do not allow
If you get that may hits then money from ads should cover your usage


I highly doubt that will be happening... :eek:

Originally posted by Host Ultra
The answer to unlimited space is simple...
I can add more hard drives and servers quicker then customers can fill them :D

Your business plan sounds a little flawed.

So you will bring another RackShack server online for just one customer paying a small amount monthly for their unlimited diskspace / transfer, and while the customer pays their low monthly fee or whatever, you will pay the setup fee and whatever RackShack charges per month?

Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


Your business plan sounds a little flawed.

So you will bring another RackShack server online for just one customer paying a small amount monthly for their unlimited diskspace / transfer, and while the customer pays their low monthly fee or whatever, you will pay the setup fee and whatever RackShack charges per month?

Its not a little flawed its extremely flawed.... he thinks his banner ads will make him a millionare... lol

I currently make 4 times more then i need to pay for the servers that i have
and im using 10% of the bandwidth i get from rackshack

Kids these days..

I wanna be like Host Ultra when i grow up! :D

hmm...

Haha! :D

hehe

Guys, not defending him as I think he is a little flawed myself, but for his wording and terms of service. But the general rules of this particular forum is "NO FLAMING". Most of the people telling him he's nuts are other hosting providers breaking the rules of this forum.

Let him do his own thing. Remember that there are people doing what he is doing and making pretty good money. Geocities and xoom to name a few.

He shouldn't have posted unlimited, unmetered or anything like that, but enough is enough.

Originally posted by MikeA
He shouldn't have posted unlimited, unmetered or anything like that, but enough is enough.

no but you see, this guy, (kid) thinks he CAN offer unlimited space, and everyone one here is still trying to prove him worng

And the funny thing is he doesn't get it!

I bet you could host a mirror of Microsoft's TerraServer, since I'm sure the 20TB storage is nothing compaired to your unlimited space. :)

Originally posted by Host Ultra
Im sure that wouldnt be a problem
If he gets that many hits to use up 30gb then im sure that money from ads will pay for the bandwidth :D
BTW, I said 30gb a day, not a month. I doubt enough people would click on the banners to beable to pay for everything.

I knew you said 30gb a day i didnt read it wrong thats not a problem

Maybe you other webhosts dont understand that YES it is UNLIMITED!!
Maybe your just jealous that im offering all of this for free :stickout

I dont think i have to worry about someone mirroring terraserver lol anyone gonna actually try it? i dont think so

Most websites only use a few mbs unless they are distributing files

My terms says NO FILE STORAGE or file distribution sites
That pretty much rules out all large sites

Why limit space/bandwidth?
Just to show those annoying "Bandwidth limit exceeded come back next month" messages?

Ok i dont have an UNLIMITED hard drive but i can always get more hard drives and more servers!!

If i only offer 10mb space and 1gb bandwidth it will be used up slower but eventually the hard drive will be full it will just take longer then offering unlimited

Originally posted by Host Ultra
Most websites only use a few mbs unless they are distributing files

My terms says NO FILE STORAGE or file distribution sites
That pretty much rules out all large sites

I wouldn't bank on those statements. Besides, there's a pretty good reason why all these free services are dropping or starting to charge...

Anywhooo, now that we've covered the unlimited angle, does anyone who is actually thinking of signing up have any questions? (hint hint)

Honestly Host Ultra's plan isn't all that flawed. Let's say he's using the $99/month RS servers. Each server pushes 300 gigs...trust me, with that many pageviews, the banner ads WILL more than make up for the cost. 300 gigs is a LOT of pageviews people. With a portion of the banners being popups, he could probably make $300-$400/month.

The question boils down to how much you're originally making from advertising, how much ad space Host Ultra is asking for, and the kind of support/reliablity given in return.

Finally there is someone who understands what im saying! :)
The ad space is 468 x 98 which can be shown as a banner or a popup through the account manager

Well, I for one is running a branded forum which is given free to people. It offers attachments which contributes to bandwidth, but the only revenue is coming from banners. We would reached very close on ad revenues to pay off the server, but then again we are paying for 130/mo for a PIII 600 with 128 MB which I don't think is such a good deal compared to all the other deals here :)

If you aren't hosting the next download.com, it's possible to get some sort of revenue to at least pay for the server and maybe a small profit on the side if done well. Using Gzip compression, bandwidth is avg in 8gigs a week which isn't even close to our 50 GB limit.

Popups would probably give him more revenue, but will annoy the heck out of people hosted on there :)

Wait wait wait...

I might be interested in your plans...

I have a hosting company, that currently hosts popular websites that exceed over 500 gigabytes a day..

I got 1234 customers, so I currently use over 100 terrabytes a day.....

They use over 6million terrabytes in space, since they have 5 million active mySQL databases, a nother trillion high quality TGA graphics.... And a whole lot of HTML files..


My customers will take down merely 99.999% of your CPU resources, since they have each of them have vbulletin that gets 1000 posts every 1 sec.......



Are you sure you can host that for free? 5 million terrabytes a month, 12345677899753 gigabytes of space?

Why, I'd be delighted to join your hosting company if you can sever that all for a free price! :rolleyes:

Originally posted by liquidknight
Wait wait wait...

I might be interested in your plans...

I have a hosting company, that currently hosts popular websites that exceed over 500 gigabytes a day..

I got 1234 customers, so I currently use over 100 terrabytes a day.....

They use over 6million terrabytes in space, since they have 5 million active mySQL databases, a nother trillion high quality TGA graphics.... And a whole lot of HTML files..


My customers will take down merely 99.999% of your CPU resources, since they have each of them have vbulletin that gets 1000 posts every 1 sec.......



Are you sure you can host that for free? 5 million terrabytes a month, 12345677899753 gigabytes of space?

Why, I'd be delighted to join your hosting company if you can sever that all for a free price! :rolleyes:


Hehe you must make a fortune in bandwidth overages ;)

:uzi:
UNLIMITED
:flamethr:

liquidknight i highly doubt you use that much
or else you dont know how to count :rolleyes:

I got 1234 customers, so I currently use over 100 terrabytes a day.....

Are you sure you can host that for free? 5 million terrabytes a month, 12345677899753 gigabytes of space?

100 terrabytes a day is NOT 5 million terrabytes a month
Actually would be about 30000 tb (30 days in a month) :D

They use over 6million terrabytes in space, ...

12345677899753 gb is not 6m terrabytes

Stop making up numbers and be realistic :stickout
RS servers are on a 10mbit connection so u wouldnt get that much out of them anyway

Originally posted by Host Ultra
liquidknight i highly doubt you use that much
or else you dont know how to count :rolleyes:



12345677899753 gb is not 6m terrabytes

Stop making up numbers and be realistic :stickout
RS servers are on a 10mbit connection so u wouldnt get that much out of them anyway


Well...

Speaking of realistic.... you're the one who lost touch with reality by offering 'unlimited' bandwidth and diskspace. Also while we're on the subject of counting, since when is 300GB of bandwidth unlimited?

There is no 300gb bandwidth limit
i can pay for usage over 300gb :D
and i can get more servers

ppl please stop attacking my unlimited offers there are many places offering unlimited ie. host.sk prohosting xoom ...

Originally posted by Host Ultra
liquidknight i highly doubt you use that much
or else you dont know how to count :rolleyes:



12345677899753 gb is not 6m terrabytes

Stop making up numbers and be realistic :stickout
RS servers are on a 10mbit connection so u wouldnt get that much out of them anyway

Exactly. How can it be unlimited if they are on a 10Mbit connection?

Just because other places offer unlimited doesn't make it right. If these people visited these forums, they would receive a similar response.

Originally posted by Host Ultra
There is no 300gb bandwidth limit
i can pay for usage over 300gb :D
and i can get more servers

ppl please stop attacking my unlimited offers there are many places offering unlimited ie. host.sk prohosting xoom ...


I have a question!

Honestly Host Ultra's plan isn't all that flawed. Let's say he's using the $99/month RS servers. Each server pushes 300 gigs...trust me, with that many pageviews, the banner ads WILL more than make up for the cost. 300 gigs is a LOT of pageviews people. With a portion of the banners being popups, he could probably make $300-$400/month.


I totally agree with GeorgeC...
I think this is a totally valid offer

Well, first, I have to say that I am anti-unlimited if the price is fixed
But that is not the case here

You are not paying a fixed price to hostultra
You are paying in term of ad space propotional to the hits you get

The more you use, the more you pay, not too difficult to understand huh?

Question to hostultra...
Can you host image gallery? (no hotlinking)
I pmed you but haven't get your reply yet...

Originally posted by YUPAPA
I have a question!

Hmm... :rolleyes:

Ask it right away then... ?? :confused:

I believe also that his post is not like others. Yes of course he saying unlimited but we all know there are servers being made everyday, and co-location facilities to be filled. These other free hosting companies are going under because of the way many other dotcoms went under. This was due to alot of people filling their pockets and bank accounts before securing the company.

Everyone also knows that it is a hard thing to get a paying customer on any site, so we resort to placing advertisements. These adverts don't generally make a killing, but as someone else posted if he has 300gigs of page views he's going to make something.

What he is offering is not that "off-the-wall" so to speak. I, as well as you see posts for sponsored requests daily on here as well as on thousands of other bboards. If these other companies can't keep their heads above water then he has a LARGE customer base awaiting. In addition, how many times do you think geocities gets a tech support phone call? I don't think there is even a number. What an added benefit, no support calls. :)

As far as his business plan, I would suggest setting limits so you can upgrade that customer to a paying one in the future.


My .02

Originally posted by Host Ultra
liquidknight i highly doubt you use that much
or else you dont know how to count :rolleyes:



12345677899753 gb is not 6m terrabytes

Stop making up numbers and be realistic :stickout
RS servers are on a 10mbit connection so u wouldnt get that much out of them anyway



And blah blah everything else..



I'm doing it to make my freaking point.

Originally posted by sayap
Question to hostultra...
Can you host image gallery? (no hotlinking)
I pmed you but haven't get your reply yet...

Yes you can have an image gallery
I replied to your pm

How about this guys. Instead of bad mouthing him and saying how he is gonna do this and that...start sticking sites up there. If he cans you for over usage, then post...until then zip it.

Unless you host with him or have hosted, you can't say anything about him....good or bad...regardless of what he says or offers.

Here is what I am hearing:

"I have a site using 30 GB a day" -> unlikely, this is about 3 mbps per month of bandwidth (depending on multi or single homed about $300 to $900 per month in bandwidth alone)

he says "ok no problem"

Now this person that posted his 30GB per day site either poop's or gets off the pot. Either put the site up or stop telling him how he is gonna cancel you. Prove him wrong.

Is it just me, or are those people who are saying Host Ultra's hosting is unrealistic posting unrealistic statements themselves? :blush:

Originally posted by Host Ultra
There is no 300gb bandwidth limit
i can pay for usage over 300gb :D
and i can get more servers

ppl please stop attacking my unlimited offers there are many places offering unlimited ie. host.sk prohosting xoom ...
umm... prohosting was never unlimited and xoom is dead

Originally posted by roly

umm... prohosting was never unlimited and xoom is dead


HAHAHAHAHAHA. That is so true....

Host Ultra get real dude, take a look at a real living example... Tera-byte (one of the biggest hosting companies) wasn't able to maintain Spaceports at 20gigs of transfer / client let alone unlimited. They came down to 5 gigs of transfer / cilent a few months ago, NOW they offer 1 gig of transfer / client.

If you read their newsletters they made a loss of 30K a month due to offering 20 GB of transfer and still made a loss when they came down to 5 GB.

FYI -- they too were supporting themselves with ads. Its time you get out of your little unlimited bandwidth bubble because it will burst when you realize that your sponsor wont pay you for useless traffic and you wont be able to survive when your clients really start using up the traffic.

Mark my words, banner ads are crap... you can hardly make anything off them.

my 200 hits a day site makes $50 a month from ads... you cant say they are useless.
If ads were so useless, you wouldn't see CNN posting them with their multi-billion hits news site.
Ads are not what they used to be, but if you find the right company, filter the banners well and prepare yourself without overpsending like ex-dotcom companies you can STILL make money.
A lot of here are too much of the extreme type.. Ads wont make you a billionair these days, but they can still bring over more than a few dollars.
With rackshacks cheap bandwidth, there is a high chance he will be able to pay for himself.
Lets say he signs up with fast click CPM program... 300GB a month is way over $99 monthly in that plan.
If ads were useless, no one would post them. But seems like they still bring money to companies, so some companies still sell advertising webspace.

Ads arent what they used to thats a fact. But if tera-byte couldnt keep it up with thier ads... its highly unlikely that this guy will... its hard to find an ad-server which pays a lot.

^Kyo, you need to get real, but not host ultra

now let's look at spaceports, it does allow file distribution site, and this may be the problem.

a forum which use 20GB bandwidth
a file distribution site which use 20GB bandwidth
which will give you more ad revenue?

also, how do you know how much does tera-byte's upstream charge them for bandwidth? as cheap as cogent?
the fact that tera-byte can't make it, doesn't mean that all other people can't make it

yeah, banner ad is crap and worthless nowadays
but you only need $99 (plus setup) for a RS server
you don't need to be a millionare

here is something realistic for you to do...
go get the stats for your main website that use in excess of 540 GB transfer a month
convert the # of hits to CPM and see if host ultra can make it

so, until you put up your main website that use in excess of 540 GB transfer a month on host ultra's server,
and then he shut down your website for excessive bandwitdh,
stop giving all the irrational comments

^Kyo, you need to get real, but not host ultra

Thats a million laughs, he's offering unlimited bandwidth and I wont get into that argument as too many threads on this board already have, however I'm entitled to my opinion and what you say is your opinion and doesn't count for what I think.

I'm neither bashing his offer nor being irrational just passing a standard observation about his offer and whether its feasible or not. And please furthermore do not tell me to stop giving irrational comments, its a free world I'm entitled to my opinion.

- Asher...

host ultra is offer unlimited bandwidth if you pay him unlimited ad space, is it too hard for you to understand?

go and do some maths
it is as simple as that

Please go learn a bit about hosting, I'm not wasting my time arguing with you of all the people on earth.

By the way have you heard of what copyright means? I visited your nice MLM website, and it seems you like stealing pictures.... can you explain why you stole that picture of a pc from 2checkout.com ? Perhaps that should be another thread....

feel free to open another thread to comment on that mlm,
if that could satisfy your self-esteem
after you fail to defend your point in this thread

by the way, do you understand what it means by "independant sales representative"?

Originally posted by sayap
feel free to open another thread to comment on that mlm,
if that could satisfy your self-esteem
after you fail to defend your point in this thread

by the way, do you understand what it means by "independant sales representative"?

Well its not satisfying my self-esteem but I hope someone from 2checkout sees my thread :)

when hundreds if not thousands of people in mlmdownlineclub.com,
are paying their monthly fees using 2checkout.com,
I do believe that someone from 2checkout have seen our websites

let's not hijack this thread,
if you don't bother using host ultra service
or you can't show why his offer is invalid

sayap, while i have absolutely nothing against you or your website, you should really remove that image.... thats just my thought though.

regards,
asher.

thanks for your concern

but 40 minutes ago, I have told you that I am only an independant representative for the company mlmdownlineclub.com

it is a company website
every representative get a same replica website

thus, I can't do anything on the picture
maybe you can hack into the company server and remove the picture for me???
well, j/k, I am emailing the CEO about this matter

still, before you could 100% verify it,
please refrain from using the terms "stolen image"
also, please refrain from using the terms "you" "you" and "you" because it is only my replica website

I didnt directly say in my other thread that you stole the images, i only said you're the owner of the website ;)

first, before you can verify that it is a "stolen image",
please refrain from using the term "stole"

second, i am not the website owner,
i own the domain and it is pointing to my buddy's website

he will probably thank you for directing traffics to his site


let this thread die? no no

instead, let the pointless argument die,
because some people can't support their point

I think we should let this thread die......... :rolleyes:

ACT III SCENE II

Yupapa Enter... =>


Art thou sit on the floor!

Originally posted by YUPAPA
ACT III SCENE II

Yupapa Enter... =>


Art thou sit on the floor!


I think this is scene V ;)

sorry, i don't count

Originally posted by YUPAPA
FORK FORK, Where are you?

Shouldn't that be either "O Fork, Fork, wherefore art thou, Fork?" or "Is this a fork I see before me?" (given that we're talking about Acts and Scenes)?

:) FORK FORK is my friend! BUT he is not @ WHT. Roly and me have to wait for MATT to add him!

BUT You can find him at freewebspace.net!

I run a freehost with people running all kinds of sites (not porn or file storage) such as image galleries or free small download sites, and ads are doing fine for me.

I currently have the server at around 4% usage at peak times and only using 30% of the bandwith I could be using, and yet I easily make 5 times the hosting cost. By using that as an average for an example, it would mean that at full usage, he could be making 15 times what the server is costing him. By not having a bloated team like so many other free sites, I believe people like him have a chance, as I do.

I do have space limits though, as I believe those are necessary, as page views usually mean money, but space usage does not. Host Ultra, why not just say "You can use up to around 100 gigabytes per month, if you need more we can discuss it and see how ads are working on your site"? I think that would satisfy your competitors, you know, in case they want to host a *rolls hand obviously down number line* 1234567890 terabyte a month site ;)

I can always cap the transfer speed :rolleyes:
Its better then denying access to sites because of over usage

Originally posted by Host Ultra
I can always cap the transfer speed :rolleyes:
Its better then denying access to sites because of over usage

Umm... if you cap the transfer rate, you *will* deny people access to the sites. 100,000 requests of 10kB each will use a GB of bandwidth regardless of how long each request takes; the only way the total bandwidth usage will decrease is if fewer successful requests are made.

Not really
Ok the server is on a 10mbit line which means that if the server was at its max for a month the max it could use would be 3tb of bandwidth

but if i cap it to 5mbit then the max that can be used would be 1.5tb and so on...
only sites with extreme usage would be capped no point in capping a site that only uses 1gb a month

And remember, you can always reply to "Can I put my 100,000 customers on there?" with "Of course, if they don't mind my ads" :).

Host Ultra,
this is a friendly comment, not a flame at all. BUT from a legal and well basically a reality standpoint is seriously suggest you change unlimited to unmetered. purely because you cannot offer unlimited but you can offer unmetered. if its capped at X mbps then it cant be unlimited then can it :) no offense intended just trying to point out a minor rewording which would make your business plan and professional outlook more tangible.

Im sick of unlimited space and bandwidth hosts now.

infact any host that CLAIMS to have this i just go straight back, no host can have unlimited unless they STATE clealy that you will get at least a certain amount.

I know one host which says you get unlmited bandwidth, but they guarentee you get at least 40 GB a month. Theses hosts are ok, but most others are crap.

the ones ive seen in that vein are along the lines of we put x ammount of bandwidth in the switch the ports are y mbps and their are z number of ports. that way you know what your up against and your playing the odds. but even then its not unlimited. its unmetered \ contended. ive yet to see any unlimited leased lines, switches, nics, hard drives etc.
a few hosts need to pick up a dictionary and get a better grasp of the english language instead of getting carried away by long words that cant understand.

When will half the items you stated be available?

MySQL, PHP, etc?

Also I want to note that the site has been down for a few days, then all pages are not located on the server. No reply to an email, and this was about 4 days ago.

Any help here?

Originally stated on the site www.hostultra.com
PHP/CGI/MySQL * <- I know allot of you want this : )

Howcome you are so childish? :D

Originally posted by YUPAPA


Howcome you are so childish? :D

funny you ask that, YUPAPA


:stickout

Mr Or Mrs Host Ultra ...

As you can tell by this post that no one in here likes the word UNLIMITED... and you will not change there minds!

Also WHT members new and old, how many times can we go through this topic on Unlimited band...

Just send him to do a search on unlimited band... and let him adverise what he/she wants after that since this is the <Web Hosting Special Offers > if you are interested PM them, dont flame them...
If you are not interested and are here to put someones company down then i cant wait to the next time you advertise and the same happens to you... and trust they will be picky!

I dont believe in unlimited but people can state what they want, as long as they pick the right sites to host...

Just my little spill for the day!

Thanks all good people of WHT!

hostultra.com needs a redesign

Hmmm...I think I will sign up for this. he has unlimited space and unlimited bandwidth...I got some real nice downloads that I could build a site around...maybe use...15-20 gigs a day. How long you think I would last on your plan? Hmmm...maybe a half day or so? And then, when you terminate me, Ill just sue you for false advertising. Yeah, that's it...Im off to join up right now!