well, i'm looking how google it's comming to web hosting world, if he offer hosting probably small companies like me will die !! what do you thing ? please google keep out !! ofcourse we can offer service, but what if they want to do something like gmail? all people knows that when google enter to one industry change all the rules, what will be the future in web hosting?

Bring it on I say. Google will most likely offer a very basic hosting service, and it folks want to wait 3 days for tech support, great. We'll still be over here in our hosting niche, outshining Google in nearly every aspect of the game. :gthumb:

God hears to you !!!!

hmmm. can see it now..... free webhosting, with the feature that they block non-google search-bots for you. :angel:

There will always be a market niche for webhosts. Some prefer big names while others prefer small webhosts that give a personal touch. So I'm not worried about google.

where did you hear about this pueblosnet? can you post a link?

thanks

Originally posted by cnm72
where did you hear about this pueblosnet? can you post a link?
It's just paranoid hosters getting all worked up by some rumours, thus causing more rumours about Google's so called coming domination into the hosting marketspace. :)

Google offering hosting? I'll say the same thing I did to yahoo, "HA!". They want to compete, this isn't there market and they better stand clear. There support sucks, how do they think they can compete with instant support? One simple answer, THEY CAN'T! They may make a quick buck, from innocent by-standers, but if people actually take the time to read a little and do research, they will come to find, google isn't the right place to be for them.

I'm frankly tired of these huge companys barging in thinking they can take over anything they want because there something big somewhere else. It would be like H&R Block, comming in from accounting and saying, hey!, I think I'm gonna offer landscaping, stand clear we will dominate. It's sickening. Stay in your area of the field and do whatever, but come into ours, and feel the competition. If google is reading this, good! go compete with yahoo, and microsoft with search engines, stay away from us! The last thing you want, is being on a web hosts badside. If your a webhost don't freat them, they might make some money in the field, but they won't be pouring it in, because once someone stays with them for 1 month and realizes how sucky there support is, they will come back.

*pops knuckles, and drinks soda*

I don't think they will enter the hosting and domain registration market too soon, as I'm sure their main aim is simply 'search' for now.

Particulary now they have MSN and Yahoo coming at them from all angles. Plus theres still alot of money in search and I doubt they would want to shift their focus just off that yet.

However, I do think with some of their recent moves that have been publicized, one can speculate that maybe sometime down the track, they may enter the hosting and domain reg market to counteract Yahoo's service that they offer in those areas.

I'm sure it would help with their bottom-line & I'm sure that's all Google is/will be focused on.

I wouldn't worry too much for now if I was a host, personal support from a small hosting company is generally what alot of people seek out and go with.

Heck there's alot of hosts still doing well even with a brand and name like Yahoo! already in this arena and you's will still continue to do so.

Who cares if google comes into the hosting market or not, yahoo, godaddy, dell and the rest of them have all been in the market for a while and it does not have any impact that I have seen at all in the past 3 years.

There will always be 'plenty to go around' I guess you could say and if you are doing things right you would even notice they are here.

you just keep offering a high quality service and customer support and don't worry about other companies gettin into hosting business ;)

Heh.. 1and1 was supposed to be taking the US market by storm but, nothing changed.

Yahoo/Godaddy/Enom have already started offering webhosting but, nothing has changed.

If Google starts offering webhosting I highly doubt things will change much. Many people like to know the person they are hosting with for a level of confidence. To Google you are just another number. ;)

I know at least 10 of my domains that came to me FROM Yahoo - so I'm not worried at all by larger competition. When consumers want to buy socks and underwear they don't care very much about service but when it comes to something as important to their business (read income) they want top notch service from someone that can understand what it's like to be in their shoes. Small businesses are my niche - and I give them the best possible service and they don't mind paying a couple of dollars more a month for it.

Google's mission is to make the world's information accessible (paraphrased). Based on this, I wouldn't be surprised if Google entered the web hosting market.

In fact, I'm working on an article about this very topic. Web hosting seems to fit in well with Google's other online services. They do run the risk of becoming "everything" and just another Yahoo - losing their "search" brand image - however, they also have a lot to gain. AdWords/AdSense offers an easy way to pay for a free hosting service, and Google has proven that they are able to scale up to any size.

I wouldn't put it past them to start webhosting.

With their purchase of Urchin - I could easily see them using that (to start) as a selling point for their plans.

But yeah - either way I don't care. I just want them to lower the license cost of Urchin. A guy could easily blow over a grand on their dippy modules...

Google ? Huh ?

I don't think they will ever enter the paid Hosting Service, Although they might just offer Free Hosting, just like Yahoo does in the name of Geocities & guess what ? No matter how much Space they give you for free, Im sure they will display there Google Ads on the Sites :P.

Also, Even if they enter the Paid Hosting Market, It is not going to make any effect. As far as I have read on this Forum, Small Companies are out-performing Larger Companies.

Just for an example, One of my clients had a domain from 1&1 & his DNS was not working due to some Problems, So he Contacted the 1&1 Support Team about this, He did got a reply from the Support Team but it was not much helpful for my client since the reply was technical terms rich, & my client could hardly understand anything. So finally, he contacted me to know If I could help him & explain what it said.

On the other Hand, If a client has some problem regarding the web hosting service, a Good Small Hosting Company would not only just tell the client on how to solve the problem, but would go forward to solve the Problem for the Client.

This tells you the Difference, So Google won't be able to Eat up the Market, Even if they enter the Web Hosting Buisness.

Well google is already ICANN accredited.

We are not very worried about them launching into the hosting arena. They are constantly being hammered by Privacy issues.

Google mail has come under a lot of fire for its blatent lack of privacy, adds being targetted from the contents of your e-mail or e-mails not being deleted just removed from your account so they can be analysed by spiders for marketing relevance.

Lots of people do not read googles privacy policy, at the end of the day most business want private, dedicated e-mailling facilities. I am not sure about everybody else but google takes about 2 days to get back to my add words questions. Most hosting customers expect results in under 2 hours, 2 days and they would move hosts.

Another article that is interesting is:

http://www.site-reference.com/Search-Engines/5598/index.html

My personal view is google could not compete on certain levels of webhosting and for everything else it would just be taking away Yahoos, sorry GeoCites or Lycos customers.

Google is excellent as a search engine but its other ventures have called into light great security vunerabilities and some very questionable tactics. One really relevant question is "How far will google go to make searches more relevant?"

SIgning up to a google anything in my opinion is signing up to having a marketing analyst follow your every footstep and every detail of your life.

Originally posted by andrewjab
Well google is already ICANN accredited.

We are not very worried about them launching into the hosting arena. They are constantly being hammered by Privacy issues.

Google mail has come under a lot of fire for its blatent lack of privacy, adds being targetted from the contents of your e-mail or e-mails not being deleted just removed from your account so they can be analysed by spiders for marketing relevance.

Lots of people do not read googles privacy policy, at the end of the day most business want private, dedicated e-mailling facilities. I am not sure about everybody else but google takes about 2 days to get back to my add words questions. Most hosting customers expect results in under 2 hours, 2 days and they would move hosts.


i don't think Gmail's target ad is that big of deal. it's very easy now the day to get people's personal info. beside every other free web base email provider like yahoo and hotmail probably sold your info to ad agency otherwise how do they make money?

if Google going to provide webhosting, i'm sure putting ad on people's website is not going to work. unless google going to do a geocity like webhost service then they can put ad on people website.

but if Google going to do webhosting, like other already said, it probably won't do that much damage as Yahoo's webhosting did not kill smaller, midsize nor large webhost. Heck, even 1and1 did next to none damage to hosting industry and they are suppose to kill small and midsize host.

They already are hosting a ton of new sites.
Its called blogger.

I'll tell you what.

Seeing as you've practically posted the same topic as I posted just days ago which is really rather pointless I'll post a link to my topic here:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=389586

I've already started the google "Whats googles future in web hosting" thread. Why copy it?

-Turboz

I am really getting a lot of customers from Yahoo LOL ! I think by providing their services they even help us because people will appreciate our services more if they have been with Yahoo before.

If google was to enter hosting it would be giving out free hosting, something like 1000mb hosting offers with no php/cgi. Why?

To increase their adwords revenue no doubt.

1,000,000 member sites x 10 daily clicks = LOTS OF ADWORDS REVENUE.. some clicks pay up to $10 per CLICK so think of how much $$ they will make...

Originally posted by universal2001
If google was to enter hosting it would be giving out free hosting, something like 1000mb hosting offers with no php/cgi. Why?

To increase their adwords revenue no doubt.

1,000,000 member sites x 10 daily clicks = LOTS OF ADWORDS REVENUE.. some clicks pay up to $10 per CLICK so think of how much $$ they will make...

Out of curiosity - where did you get this formula from? :)

Boris

The first thought I had when I heard about this is that unlike a GoDaddy, Google can seriously threated the web hosting industry. What if they start a many-layered webhosting service with plans from free hosting through shared plans to VPS and the same day it's launched they do something ugly to all search results for "webhosting" and similar words/phrases?

Originally posted by RambOrc
... and the same day it's launched they do something ugly to all search results for "webhosting" and similar words/phrases?

LOL, I Don't think this would ever happen, but I still appreciate how far you thought of.

Originally posted by RambOrc
The first thought I had when I heard about this is that unlike a GoDaddy, Google can seriously threated the web hosting industry. What if they start a many-layered webhosting service with plans from free hosting through shared plans to VPS and the same day it's launched they do something ugly to all search results for "webhosting" and similar words/phrases?
I'd say that tampering with search results to help launch a new arm of business of their own would be quite counter-productive to their future as a public company!

Only if someone can prove it - and maybe not even there. M$ has sold Hotmail user data for years without the consent of the users and allowed distribution of selected spam to their whole user base and did they ever got into any kind of serious trouble because of it? Nah... :mad:

Originally posted by OKIHost
Who cares if google comes into the hosting market or not, yahoo, godaddy, dell and the rest of them have all been in the market for a while and it does not have any impact that I have seen at all in the past 3 years.

There will always be 'plenty to go around' I guess you could say and if you are doing things right you would even notice they are here.

OKIHost said it best! They might offer lower cost in hosting like GoDaddy, but that will not mean anything. As for me I would never go with Yahoo, GoDaddy, or any big company like that. Since they for the most part from what I hear have horrible support.

Yeah they might take some of your business away, but if you have good services it should not effect you to much.

Plenty of challenges to google on this thread :P, personally i dont think it would put you guys out of business but it would sure creat some more compitition.

With Google its really hard to predict what they will do. I'm not really worried about them becoming a web host. The web hosting business is a service intense business which I don't think google has the man power for. If they wanted to they could make it a success but I believe that would shift there focus away from their main business. But again I would not bet against them.

When giants like Yahoo enter the hosting business it's good because it restores a certain amount of credibility to the industry because they charge proper monthly fees for the the service.

I've seen people open up "reseller" hosting businesses that charge less than $30 per year for an account, let alone $30 per month. For those of you out there who try to build businesses offering bottom-of-the-barrel pricing: how on earth do you build a sustainable business?

On the other hand, when a big competitor enters that market, a lot of companies lower their prices to compete.

I am not worried, I would say a good 5% of our clients are people who were with Yahoo or some other huge company turned host, and they disliked the level of service they were provided with.

That's right... I am there is no company from which I am gaining more clients than from Yahoo...

The customer needs more competent competition, not just another host. If google is competent then the customer will gain (From healthy competition.

The problem with google moving in, in my opinion is that we can't compare them with Microsoft and Yahoo, because they actually are efficient and people actually do like them.

Lets face it, who would have thought Google would go into webmail , and now I am hearing they are going to compete with Skype now.

Anyway, it will be interested, I think alot of the smaller companies will wind up closing down and selling out, buought out by the medium companies.

Of course we can rival google, why dont we al lmake our own search engine :P

Originally posted by Khazun
The problem with google moving in, in my opinion is that we can't compare them with Microsoft and Yahoo, because they actually are efficient and people actually do like them.

Exactly. Look at gmail compared to hotmail or yahoo mail. Or google maps compared to mapquest. Google's services are so much better. If they do decide to go into hosting you can bet it will be in a way that makes it vastly easier for novices to put up sites, and that will impact small hosts like ourselves, no doubt about it.

Scott

Yeah...

Let's all go ad on other places :) and not give more suice to it...
:cartman:

Google offering hosting? I'll say the same thing I did to yahoo, "HA!"

That was my initial reaction. Big company comes in, draws customers into the market that weren't in the market before. Making the webhosting client base larger. Clients get dissatisfied with large companies quality, looks for solid host.

Don't think it's going to kill us, at all.

Hi! If Google goes into hosting, then it will be positive? Why? I am sure Google will go all out in their marketing to educate the common man of what web hosting is all about. And when the common man is educated, I am sure he will start looking for alternatives. :)

well, today i read about the option to use gmail like hosting with gmail scripting that show on a web the files attach with an specifi tag, wow !

Well Google is expanding alot at these days, they might even enter the hosting world, maybe not, its already a huge business entered by many. If they do, they will certainly get some sort of monopol. Well, i don't think a everyday person (not some total freak) will care to read about your stupid instant support and ****.

I think they go for what they heard about and seen many times, and they will as google easily can put a little ads for their hosting on their searches.

This will for sure over-take some of the market.

@ iCeW1nD:

Absolutely agree ! They choose what they heard of and what seems a good deal. They will not pay more and buy from a small business just because this business claims to provide "good support and service". Good support and service is something you can`t see as a customer. Who knows which company actually offers good support. So they just buy the most space/bandwidth for the least price with the most famous company.

Aunt Emma provided good support, too...

Google will come to web hosting only if it can offer something no other host can do, otherwise they would be better off acquiring someone like Verio and start with a big userbase...

So if they do enter the marketplace, I wouldn't be saying "bring it on", I would be worried. Just take a look at Microsoft, years ago Google wasn't a threat, now they are saying HANG ON, we had unlimited finance, unlimited geek brain power but these guys are a serious threat to us.

They might create a web hosting platform like no other..

100% uptime, unlimited space, unlimited traffic for $20 per month.

With regards to support power, they could create a system whereby users can help each other out and since the system never goes down due to many redundant servers automatically replenshing the data of failed servers, tickets will be low and thus very little need for man power support.

My guess is that they would start small with a personal website to go with that gmail account. Probably would not be hosting in the traditional sense but rather a closed in tool for building simple web sites. It would likely be free and might tie in with Ad Sense. They are not afraid of offering things free that cost them money.

What is more interesting to me is how they can potentially move the way people may come to think about thier web site and therefore the web hosting business. They have the power to influence such a change. I would suspect that what ever they do it will have a unique twist to it.

Speculating is always fun....

Most interesting for me is if they would still allow other hosts to use Adwords to advertise. Because if there is a tendency for all companies that provide advertising to also provide hosting the market could become difficult for us.

Most interesting for me is if they would still allow other hosts to use Adwords to advertise.

Advertising is their main revenue source so I would find it hard to believe they would stop offering it just to pump up the hosting side of the business (if they do get into that).