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View Full Version : Internet via Satellite
DreamWeaver 12-15-2000, 06:42 PM Internet via Satellite how much does it cost and where can i find some providers for it online i searched for it and didn't find anything but about how it works. I can't get cable internet they said it will be anywhere from 1 to 3 years before it's here so what other options do i have to get online faster than 56K DSL maybe? but then don't i need a differant kind of phone line. :emlaugh:
TheComputerGuy 12-15-2000, 07:00 PM From my understanding, you have to have a dss system, then have that connected to a phone line. Just for the reason that you send faster that way than on the satalite itself, then you can download at like upto 128k? i am not sure about that number. but they say it may run about 40-60 bucks a month
DreamWeaver 12-15-2000, 07:11 PM Thanks for the info i can afford 60 a month but where can I find a place online to get something like this?
What i don't get is that i called my cable company and they said i can't get cable Internet yet but when i look it up on line on there site with my zip code it says that i can.......i wonder wich one is right? they are offering free setup and 1 month free if you sign up in December :bawling:
[Edited by dreamweaver on 12-15-2000 at 06:16 PM]
Spider John 12-15-2000, 07:21 PM The @home service providers in general are rumoured to be cutting staff by 30%. I had a terrible experience with them last month. They not only wouldn't hook the cable up to the line I wanted them to, they broke my apartment door in the process.
With the satellite, the send is actually the problem, not the receive. The send can only be done at 56 Kbps. The receive is I think 3 Mbps. The other problem, to my understanding, is that the satellite is a digital one, which means you have to have a direct line to the satellite tower with absolutely no interference or it won't work at all (this came from a representative at one of the satellite Internet companies here in Canada.)
webfors 12-15-2000, 08:18 PM Spider John,
I think you're confusing Satellite internet and Look's wireless high speed internet. With Look, yes you must be in direct site of the Look Tower. Satellite internet means exactly that, from a satellite in the earth's orbit.
I am also looking for satellite internet as I might be moving out of the city where high speed internet is rare.
http://www.starband.com/ offers bi-directional internet via satellite, e.g. no phone line needed.
Spider John 12-15-2000, 10:27 PM Originally posted by tabernack
Spider John,
I think you're confusing Satellite internet and Look's wireless high speed internet. With Look, yes you must be in direct site of the Look Tower. Satellite internet means exactly that, from a satellite in the earth's orbit.
My bad. The sleeping pill got to me. Now it's really getting to me. I can actually see what I'm typing in binary...0110101011011101000010000100101010101...
DreamWeaver 12-15-2000, 10:59 PM That looks cool JTY and its not to high at $60 a month do you think that you can use AOL with it you can use MSN on it so i don't see why not.
Is download speeds of up to 500 kbps and upload speeds up to 150 kbps very fast?
how fast can a cable and DSL upload and download?
I would imagine AOL can run over it. I'm thinking about getting it, but I don't want to use a USB sat modem.
Duster 12-16-2000, 10:06 AM You'll find your answers at DirectPC http://directpc.com/
I checked it out a few years ago. You don't need a DSS system, though it uses a similar dish and you cna use a combo dish if you do have DSS. Downstream speed is 400 kbps, certainly faster than a modem. You do need an ISP account for upstream, and they can provide one.
My local cable company offered cable modem service before DSL was available in my area. Unfortunately, it is only 600 kbps, not that much faster than DirecPC. It was priced too high (of course) and the attitude and competence of the cable company alone were enought to exclude them from consideration. I would have also had to have cable TV service, and I had dropped it because of their lousy attitude and service, which raised the price of cable modem service even higher.
When BellSouth finally offered ADSL in my area and on my line, it was not only much faster, but much cheaper, and they later dropped the price further. Speed depends on distance from the switching center, and I happen to be close to mine. Out of a maximum of 1.5 mbps downstream, I connect at a constant 1.472 mbps.
I say all this so that you are aware of some possibilities for the future. Cable modem service isn't necessarily all that fast (especially for the money) and there may be better alternatives at some point.
When
Chicken 12-16-2000, 11:12 AM Originally posted by Duster
Speed depends on distance from the switching center, and I happen to be close to mine. Out of a maximum of 1.5 mbps downstream, I connect at a constant 1.472 mbps.
Me, outter ring of the circle sourounding the switching center. 384 max I believe :( I'm picking the next place I am living based on this!
brainbox 12-16-2000, 12:05 PM Well the latest on starband is that they were supposed to be out this month, actually a few days ago and as it turns out they can't meet their obligations......
So all retailers of the new starband are hopping mad (at least the 10 that we talked to) because they are losing business hand over foot at the moment because they have tons of people calling them daily asking to get it and their having to turn them away saying that starband has not yet provided them with the dishes. One retailer I asked stated that he expects the dishes sometime next year, early quarter, maybe january, but he also stated hes not holding his breath.
When they do finally reach us, they will be a fantastic addition for those of us in rural areas that dont have access to cable access and have a clear line of sight to the satellite in the southern hemisphere.
Im really looking forward to it, since it will only be about an extra 20.00 per month for me and much faster speeds, up to 10 times faster.
The way I figure it, I've got one isp 21.95, and one extra phone line, 30.00 that's 51.95 compared to satellite by starband which is supposed to be something like 69.95 for unlimited "always on" service. WooooHoooooo! I used to have a cable modem in the apartment in town that I was using for my office, and it was a drag coming home every night to dialup after being on an always on, fast cable modem, downloading 25mb programs in 2.5 minutes, okay, 5 minutes compared to an hour and a half or more on a dialup.
Anyway, full info can be found at http://www.starband.com
Radio shack is one of the retailers, though their arrangement makes you purchase a computer with the dish, not a good deal at all, whereas the MSN version is just the dish and modem, as well as a few other etailers that will offer it without a computer! I tried to tell the radio shack guy that I have no need for a celeron computer when I have a new 1.4GHZ that will work fine, he told me that it wont work, and I must buy his computer for it to work, strange the other retailers and etailers dont need a special computer, just something in the modern age.
Good luck,
Bbox
KDAWebServices 12-16-2000, 04:28 PM From what I hear Satelite Internet is not worth it because the latency is about 2 seconds and download speeds are usually about 8k/s - ISDN is just as fast.
There was a forum somewhere about Satelite Internet that had lots of people complaining about it and I think 1 person said it was good.
brain2b 12-16-2000, 07:44 PM I've actually used every single satelite setup in an effort to find one that suited our needs, we went with DSL and cable. Satelites are fast, but everytime you send a request for data there is a 10-80millisecond delay, then it gets fast, so it makes the whole experience only feel slightly faster than 56k... also they are terrible in storms and winter, also solar flares can be an issue too.
DreamWeaver 12-17-2000, 07:39 PM I guess im stuck with my 56k then i can't get DSL or cable is their anything else i could try?
etLux 12-17-2000, 08:14 PM Personally, I think all this about getting the Internet on satellites is silly. How many people do we have on satellites to begin with? And what do they need the Internet for? Can't they see everything from up there anyway?
If those people on satellites need the Internet, let them get it like everyone else does: They can just hook up to AOL with their telephone line.
Duster 12-17-2000, 09:54 PM (How interesting that your initials are the same as Emily Latella's)
That's accessing the Internet via satellite, not getting on the satellites, Miss Latella, er, etLux.
We know, "never mind".
;-D
brain2b 12-18-2000, 12:08 AM You could get a whole bunch of phone lines and tier your 56k modems together :-)
DreamWeaver 12-18-2000, 09:20 PM lol
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