Hello,
I am going to order a RAQ4i from one of these 2.

Rackshack has 300GB Bandwidth but has setup fee ....

Vortech had 100GB Bandwidth but no setup fee and has 256 RAM

Which is the better company?

I would like to hear your views:)

Thanks

Chris

Do you really want a RaQ?

Linux servers are much more powerfull/stable/faster than any RaQ.

my $0.02

I am just starting out ... i wouldnt know how to admin a linux server:(

Chris

With the control panels you can get these days its quite simple.

Cobalt Raqs are built on linux anyhow :D

If you signup with redhat.com you can automate all package updates automatically so you wouldnt need to worry about them neither.

Rackshack hands down.

thanks, its definetly worth thinking about,

Originally posted by puggy106
thanks, its definetly worth thinking about,

If its for WebHosting, your clients will prefer a Linux server over a RaQ guaranteed :D

billy do you have a server with them?

We have servers @ RackShack and love them.
We also love the RaQ. It simplifies your life. The features are what you need for typical web hosting. Granted, we only have a number of sites in the low thousands, but they work well for us.

We have Plesk-powered servers but prefer the RaQ for overall stability & simplicity. One RaQ2 here has been up 215 days, since we installed new UPS gear (has it been that long?!?)

Drew

"If you signup with redhat.com you can automate all package updates automatically so you wouldnt need to worry about them neither."

I believe updating packages will break PLESK, if he gets that control panel.

Originally posted by AcuNett
"If you signup with redhat.com you can automate all package updates automatically so you wouldnt need to worry about them neither."

I believe updating packages will break PLESK, if he gets that control panel.

The only time people have had problems is when symlinks have been removed because of an upgrade, I am unaware of any other issues.... please enlighten if there are :D

Originally posted by cabalstudios


If its for WebHosting, your clients will prefer a Linux server over a RaQ guaranteed :D

I disagree. If done right, RAQ hosting is just as good. We still have a few RAQ2s running with about 100 sites each. We have not added any sites for over a year, but since they run, why drop them? They are still making us money.

UmBillyCord:
Just wanted to see why you would say Rackshack hands down? Since i don't think you have used us?

The only thing i see RS giving better then us is bandwidth. He never said he needed that full 300GB ;) But we make that up in support turn around times under 2 hours in most 90%..

Please don't take me the wrong way there UmBillyCord just would like to know so i have an idea so maybe we can change do some thing better.

puggy106:
Also some thing to think about is the Redhat or FreeBSD server. You can get plesk cheap to start out any way just about as good as a cobalt if not better in some cases..




But i must say if you do need the bandwidth and cheap why not.. Heck i might even use RS but i don't need support ether.. ;)

Originally posted by Vortech
[B]UmBillyCord:
Just wanted to see why you would say Rackshack hands down? Since i don't think you have used us?

The only thing i see RS giving better then us is bandwidth. He never said he needed that full 300GB ;) But we make that up in support turn around times under 2 hours in most 90%..

Please don't take me the wrong way there UmBillyCord just would like to know so i have an idea so maybe we can change do some thing better.



Since you asked -

1) RS has true, 24-7 toll free support. You call, they have personnel available on site. So the turn around can be much faster then "under 2 hours in most 90%"
2) RS has there own DC.
3) RS is a Cobalt True Blue Partner - they know Cobalt.
4) RS gives you more bandwidth - much more
5) RS is innovative - not mainstream. I can count on them progressing and surprising me with new options.

1) VT uses a colo. No 24/7 onsite. And being able to call someone with remote hands, is not onsite in my book. A reboot is great. But how about rebuilding a server?
2) VT uses one of my biggest pet peeves. The "Our DC..." BS! From your web site "The multi-million dollar Vortech Data Center is located in ". Very misleading. Makes it sound like you own your own colo.
3) You also have a set up fee for RAQs (from your web site) and have much less bandwidth.

My preference is RS, hands down. Now as a shopper, RS adds up to be much more value to me. From experience, RS support is great. Now I haven't used your support, but since I don't have an issue with RSs, it would be hard for me to say yours would be better. In fact, to me, it could be worse.

I am sure you have a great company. However when he asked which is a better company, *I* can say without a doubt - RS.

Plus your web site looks too much like CQHost's. :D

If I am off base with any off this, let me know.

I find this funny since you really have no idea what you just said is true or not am i right? Lets start off here..

Since you said -

1) RS has true, 24-7 toll free support. You call, they have personnel available on site. So the turn around can be much faster then "under 2 hours in most 90%"

Have you called us at 3am yet? No.. Ok then.. Our site lists 9am to 5pm that is ONLY for smaller accounts there is all was some one here and all Colo's and Ded. server do get true 24-7 support.

You said. "So the turn around can be much faster then "under 2 hours in most 90%"" But has it? We also have techs on site just so you know. Tech support that you call is not on site.

2) RS has there own DC.
Hmm.. Man you sure are wrong here.. We do own our own datacenter as well.. 3rd floor same building. Yes we do Colo on the 2nd Floor of the same DC. We are not the only ones in this place. UUnet Has there own place, Verio, Sprint, Level(3), and a lot more have there own DC in side this same building.

3) RS is a Cobalt True Blue Partner - they know Cobalt.
Well you don't have to be a "True Blue Partner" to know cobalt. That is for sure.

4) RS gives you more bandwidth - much more
Yep they do.. I even said that.. But he never said he need that much.

5) RS is innovative - not mainstream. I can count on them progressing and surprising me with new options.
New options on a cobalt.. Hmm not to many options they can give besides maybe a free month..


1) VT uses a colo. No 24/7 onsite. And being able to call someone with remote hands, is not onsite in my book. A reboot is great. But how about rebuilding a server?

As i said about this is were you are wrong.. We also have spare servers on hand at all times. If it is a ram or CPU that goes we pull the HD and put it in a new server.. Most of the time under an hour..


2) VT uses one of my biggest pet peeves. The "Our DC..." BS! From your web site "The multi-million dollar Vortech Data Center is located in ". Very misleading. Makes it sound like you own your own colo.

Man this seems to be your only thing and since you think we are still just coloing you are way wrong.. ;)

3) You also have a set up fee for RAQs (from your web site) and have much less bandwidth.
Does Rackshack have a setup fee never looked really?



I hope that clears up some thing since you are way off and had no idea what our co. is doing or has done in the last 2 years.

Vortech - If you hadnt noticed, Rackshack offers a LOT more than just Cobalts.... I believe that's what he means by surprising new options.

Yea i know.. Not saying you guys are bad at all.. UmBillyCord just seemed to have his facts mixed up about us..

From what i have seen most of the time you guys do a great job. Only thing i have ever seen is support things that is about it. But i also know how that goes. :)

I am not afraid to say Rackshack is good as well and are a little bigger then us that have been around a lot longer then us. Just in my opinion and have never used RS in my life if you want bandwidth they are one of the best for the price. If you want support some times smaller co. like ours just seems to do a little better. Simply because we don't have as many users to have to support. I really like it this way my self. If a user calls up they can get ahold of the same tech they have worked with before very easy so they all ready know what that customer may need.

But in the end it just want the customer wants. As of late i must say RS has not had to many posts about bad support so it may of gotten better. Don't know since i have never used them..


UmBillyCord: I am not trying to be rude in any way. Just seems you had some stuff mixed up.. If you think was please let me know because i know how i can sound some time and not even know it my self.. As far a cqhost.com our site does look a little like it. Nothing is copied at all i just liked the Gray and Layout really and kind told the design to work with it.. We do have plans for an all new design coming this summer as well from a very good designer from this forum that is also here in Orlando.. :)

Let me ask you some questions then:

1) Did you build the DC?
2) Do you own the core routers?
3) Are those pictures on your web site from "your DC"?
4) Are you saying you have Vortech employeed techs (on the books) staying at the colo 24/7???? I am not talking about giving out a cell phne number and then when someone calls saying "OK, we will fix it", then hanging up and calling another companies techs to reboot.
5) Your web site said you own a multi-million dollar DC. Do you own a multi-million dollar dc?
6) If I come to your DC, can I come in 24/7 and work on my server?
7) When can i schedule an appointment to come visit the DC?

These are legite questions. Since you say I don't know what I am talking about, I just want to get thi sin writting so I can learn about you guys. Thanks.

Please let me know the answers, cause I really am curious.

Now for some points -

Have you called us at 3am yet? No.. Ok then.. Our site lists 9am to 5pm that is ONLY for smaller accounts there is all was some one here and all Colo's and Ded. server do get true 24-7 support.

Please explain your "true" 24 x 7 support. Where are your tech, etc...


Hmm.. Man you sure are wrong here.. We do own our own datacenter as well.. 3rd floor same building. Yes we do Colo on the 2nd Floor of the same DC. We are not the only ones in this place. UUnet Has there own place, Verio, Sprint, Level(3), and a lot more have there own DC in side this same building.

I have no idea what you are saying. Are you saying because maybe you lease space for Rapidcolo, you can call the whole thing yours? I'll ask agin - did you build the DC? do you own all equipement? are you the only company in there aside from your customers?

Well you don't have to be a "True Blue Partner" to know cobalt. That is for sure.

No. But we too have been in the world of Cobalt for a long time. 7/99 to be exact. I can tell you the differnce in support between basic and True Blue is like a Yugo and a Lotus.

Also, common sense tells me a company with 1000 RAQs will know more then one with a handfull. They have seen more and done more. Kind of like a veteran in a war. More experience. Doesn't mean someone green doesn't "know" more. But it is experience that counts to me.

RS is innovative - not mainstream. I can count on them progressing and surprising me with new options.

What I meant by this is I want a leader not a follower. No offense, but since you wanted to get into details, I see nothing unique about what you offer. I can get this anywhere. With RS, every few months I get a surprise. $99 servers with unlimited Ensim licenses for example. I can't wait for the March 14th annoncment.

I hope that clears up some thing since you are way off and had no idea what our co. is doing or has done in the last 2 years.

Seems you asked for some details you could not handle. You asked someone why *they* chose one company over another. Don't ask if you don't want the truth.

2 years? Since you want to be arrogant about it, yes I do know about you -
http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=15030&highlight=vortech

Look, I am happy for you and Rapidcolo. This has nothing to do with you. However when someone ask what company is better, I chose RS hands down. You decided to take offense and debate it. Opinions are free here. ;)

Like I said before, this isn't a flame and never was. So don't take it as such. If you have thin skin, don't ask for a detailed explanation.

Originally posted by UmBillyCord
. . . . . . . . Opinions are free here. . . . .:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: I just paid $4.
I think I got ripped off. :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

Originally posted by SoftWareRevue
:bawling: :bawling: :bawling: I just paid $4.
I think I got ripped off. :bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

Dennis, you know that was special pricing I gave you. Why cry about it?

Originally posted by UmBillyCord


Dennis, you know that was special pricing I gave you. Why cry about it? Well . . . . . Now that I'm "special" . . . . . . Let us call them tears of joy. :blush:







I still feel somewhat violated however :eek:

Let me ask you some questions then:

You: 1) Did you build the DC?
Nope... Most do not build there DC unless they are Verio, UUnet Sprint and so one. Most will rent space in side of a datacenter but it is YOUR space no one else. Your Power, Your Router every thing is on you the DC is only the Building that is it. That is where i think you are going wrong.

You: 2) Do you own the core routers?
Yep. Cisco 12000 now 2 of them.

You: 3) Are those pictures on your web site from "your DC"?
No they are from when we were in verios place on the first floor. Just have not had time to update them. :(

You: 4) Are you saying you have Vortech employeed techs (on the books) staying at the colo 24/7???? I am not talking about giving out a cell phne number and then when someone calls saying "OK, we will fix it", then hanging up and calling another companies techs to reboot.
Yes we do. If some one called here and said we are having problem i would see if we can fix it from here if not there are techs there as well 24/7 on our pay roll no one else..


You: 5) Your web site said you own a multi-million dollar DC. Do you own a multi-million dollar dc?
As i said before we do not own the building just every thing is side of our space there. But far from any colo we own every RACK, BATTERY SERVER and every thing in it.

You: 6) If I come to your DC, can I come in 24/7 and work on my server?
From 9am to 5pm with out letting us know yes unless you have a full rack. If its a one you server just have to call and tell us you are coming not a problem.

You: 7) When can i schedule an appointment to come visit the DC?
Any time you let me know and i will send you info off of WHT to come by. We are in Orlando FL not sure were you are.

You: These are legite questions. Since you say I don't know what I am talking about, I just want to get thi sin writting so I can learn about you guys. Thanks.

Yes i know.. Not a problem for me at all.. :)


You: Please explain your "true" 24 x 7 support. Where are your tech, etc...

Our tech support is done from an out side office still our staff simple because it is cheaper then getting more space in said the data Center for techs.

You: I have no idea what you are saying. Are you saying because maybe you lease space for Rapidcolo, you can call the whole thing yours? I'll ask agin - did you build the DC? do you own all equipement? are you the only company in there aside from your customers?

Nope did not build the building. Nor did Verio, Level(3), UUnet, Intermedia, Sprint or any one else that has space from there. Think of it this way. Same as office space you rent it but you call it your own. Or you rent your home but you call it you home but you did not build it. Kind of the same thing. We rent our space in side of the same building as all the other telcos here.



You:No. But we too have been in the world of Cobalt for a long time. 7/99 to be exact. I can tell you the differnce in support between basic and True Blue is like a Yugo and a Lotus.

You: Also, common sense tells me a company with 1000 RAQs will know more then one with a handfull. They have seen more and done more. Kind of like a veteran in a war. More experience. Doesn't mean someone green doesn't "know" more. But it is experience that counts to me.

Very true i do see your point there. They may know a little more then us if they have 1000 servers who knows..

You: What I meant by this is I want a leader not a follower. No offense, but since you wanted to get into details, I see nothing unique about what you offer. I can get this anywhere. With RS, every few months I get a surprise. $99 servers with unlimited Ensim licenses for example. I can't wait for the March 14th annoncment.


Well this is where you go way wrong here. Do you think RS was the first to offer $99 cobalts? I don't think they were so this also makes them a follower. As well there is nothing unique about what they offer we could very well offer the same thing at any time we just don't. That is not a bad thing from where i come from..



You: Seems you asked for some details you could not handle. You asked someone why *they* chose one company over another. Don't ask if you don't want the truth.

Nope have i missed any thing yet? Not one problem answer these simple question get them a lot not a problem for me.

You: Seems you asked for some details you could not handle. You asked someone why *they* chose one company over another. Don't ask if you don't want the truth.

The problem is you was the reasons why you said it.

2 years? Since you want to be arrogant about it, yes I do know about you -

Yep called one bad designer then. But was fixed was it not? Yes 2 years i am sure i did not make i type.. Also have been doing hosting for close to 5 years. I did work for TWC for 3 of my 5 years and then start our own co..

You: Look, I am happy for you and Rapidcolo. This has nothing to do with you. However when someone ask what company is better, I chose
RS hands down. You decided to take offense and debate it. Opinions are free here. []

I did not take any offense just i know you have never talked with me or seen our setup so i know you made that statement with out knowing any thing about and know you do. So you may say RS all you like i just like users to at least know before hand before they say some thing like RS hands down when you know nothing about US.


You: Like I said before, this isn't a flame and never was. So don't take it as such. If you have thin skin, don't ask for a detailed explanation.

I know i just not want you to think i was coming at you in any way. Just wanted to know why you said that. You told me then i did know why you said..

I think i have answered all your questions and really done with this post if you have any thing else you would like to know please email.

5) Your web site said you own a multi-million dollar DC. Do you own a multi-million dollar dc?

You forgot to answer this one.


From what I gather, and I was correct, you do not own/lease the whole DC. RS does. Verio does, etc... You lease 'space'. You are forgetting, when you rent (taking your example), you don't own the building. You can not go to the next office and start setting up desk. You have a landlord so to speak. Same when you lease space *in someone else's DC*.

Also, are you saying you have someone with phone access, 24/7 in each location that you have servers ready to take calls? If you do, then I stand corrected. I thought you gave out a number of a on duty tech and when you got a call, you would use a remote hands option or drive to the DC and fix the issue. There is nothing wrong with this, as many companies do it this way.


I have confirmed almost everything I guessed about your company so far. It took some direct questioning, but I have my answers. The one that I will say I was wrong on is the core routers. If you are saying you have direct drops from Level(3), etc... and you do the routing and you pay Level (3), etc... directly, and not the DC for BW, then I stand corrected and apologize. If you do not, then I confirmed everything I first thought.


I honestly could care less if you have to lease space. We do. Most do. You have to start somewhere. However you asked why RS - and I just told you. They don't doctor up things.

You forgot to answer this one.

Nope i got that one in there as well..

You: 5) Your web site said you own a multi-million dollar DC. Do you own a multi-million dollar dc?
As i said before we do not own the building just every thing is side of our space there. But far from any colo we own every RACK, BATTERY SERVER and every thing in it.



You: From what I gather, and I was correct, you do not own/lease the whole DC. RS does. Verio does, etc... You lease 'space'. You are forgetting, when you rent (taking your example), you don't own the building. You can not go to the next office and start setting up desk. You have a landlord so to speak. Same when you lease space *in someone else's DC*.

Just to note on this Verio does not own its DC here in Orlando it is in the same building with us under these very same rules.. :) We really don't need any more space so we are cool.. We really want to stay kind of small.. We never want to be a Verio, RS or anything that big that is not why i got in to hosing. I got in to it because its what i love to do.. :)


You: Also, are you saying you have someone with phone access, 24/7 in each location that you have servers ready to take calls? If you do, then I stand corrected. I thought you gave out a number of a on duty tech and when you got a call, you would use a remote hands option or drive to the DC and fix the issue. There is nothing wrong with this, as many companies do it this way.

Yes we do. We did use to do the drive thing as well.. ;) I must say the driving did save me some money that was for sure.. hehe


You: I have confirmed almost everything I guessed about your company so far. It took some direct questioning, but I have my answers. The one that I will say I was wrong on is the core routers. If you are saying you have direct drops from Level(3), etc... and you do the routing and you pay Level (3), etc... directly, and not the DC for BW, then I stand corrected and apologize. If you do not, then I confirmed everything I first thought.

Yes right from Level(3), UUnet and Quest and are looking in to cogent as well.. We also have TWC in the same building and plan to pull from them as well. But that is all in time not sure how much more we want to grow really. We are so happy with out size now..


You: I honestly could care less if you have to lease space. We do. Most do. You have to start somewhere. However you asked why RS - and I just told you. They don't doctor up things.

Not sure what you mean by doctor up things. If you mean saying we own our DC i guess i kind of see your point and don't at the same time. We own ever thing in our SPACE and that is what counts i think the building is just there to hold it all in.. :) But over all i really like leasing space. Maybe one day we can build our own DC but for now i am happy with out setup and works great for us.

Thanks for all your questions i did not mind one bit. Just glad I could clear it up.. BTW just so you understand I never said I did not think RS was good they are ok from what I have seen just never used them before.. Hell if i was not doing my own stuff i would host with them as well as its hard to out do there pricing i know.. hehe

I really hate to get on this thread, but it really bothers me to see these fights between hosts :(

For the record, we "rent" (like UmBillyCord said) space on the same data center as Vortech. Even though I don't know them well, I have met them and they seem to be nice people. I have also heard very good things about them. I just don't understand why someone would just say a company is better than other without facts. It is very different to say "I have used RS for so long and I have had a great experience, they are great!" and something totally different is to say "RS is better hands down"

Look, I also "colo" as you call it, and I don't have people on the data center 24/7, but I am 10 minutes away from the data center, and I know for a fact that Vortech is also 10 or so minutes away, perhaps even less. So doesn't that count? Do you have to have your own data center and own the building to be able to provide better support? I know Vortech does not have to call a tech to do remote hands; they can go into the facility as they please, even at 3:00 A.M. on a Sunday.

I don't have anything against RS. In fact, a good friend of mine has a RaQ with them since day one and he is very happy, he is so happy that does not want to move the RaQ to us (and he is my friend :()

Again, accept my apologies for getting in the middle here. I respect all of you, but I just think that good and/or bad opinions must be properly funded. :)

Originally posted by bert
I really hate to get on this thread, but it really bothers me to see these fights between hosts :(

For the record, we "rent" (like UmBillyCord said) space on the same data center as Vortech. Even though I don't know them well, I have met them and they seem to be nice people. I have also heard very good things about them. I just don't understand why someone would just say a company is better than other without facts. It is very different to say "I have used RS for so long and I have had a great experience, they are great!" and something totally different is to say "RS is better hands down"

Look, I also "colo" as you call it, and I don't have people on the data center 24/7, but I am 10 minutes away from the data center, and I know for a fact that Vortech is also 10 or so minutes away, perhaps even less. So doesn't that count? Do you have to have your own data center and own the building to be able to provide better support? I know Vortech does not have to call a tech to do remote hands; they can go into the facility as they please, even at 3:00 A.M. on a Sunday.

I don't have anything against RS. In fact, a good friend of mine has a RaQ with them since day one and he is very happy, he is so happy that does not want to move the RaQ to us (and he is my friend :()

Again, accept my apologies for getting in the middle here. I respect all of you, but I just think that good and/or bad opinions must be properly funded. :)

Sorry, but your view in tainted with the fact you know Vortech and are in the same colo. So of course will not see it my way.

Also, for the record, no said they were bad, they suck, are idots, or anything else. I simply defended my claim of why I chose RS hands down over Vortech. Spend time reading the post again, it may do you some good. I clearly listed why I would choose RS over VT.

I own a BMW and my friend has a Pinto. I know what type engine I have, I know the service I can get from a BMW delearship, I know all the additonal options that come with my car. Now do I need to own a Pinto to say hands down I would choose a BMW over a Pinto????

Not comparing VT to a Pinto, mearly pointing out that all the facts I addressed are why I know RS would be a better choice in my opinion. Now, you have a postive view of VT. So go ahead and post your opinion why you would choose them hands down. Opinions are free.

Also, I have no idea why people jump in threads when they clearly do not catch the meaning. Why would I care if VT rents? Why do I care if they are not Cobalt partners? Why? because when compared to a host who does not and is, I choose them. We have the same issues, and I stated this clearly. We rent. We colo. We do not have 24/7 onsite techs. That is the way it works. But I can tell you, a company with their own DC and 24/7 onsite techs, and Cobalt True Blue partner, a company taking the industry by storm - now that is where I want to be! So If someone chooses RS over me because of that, so be it. That is the nature of the beast. Guess I need to build a better mouse trap.

I really hate to get on this thread, but it really bothers me to see these fights between hosts

Who is fighting???? I see clear debate. :confused:

UmBillyCord,

I am not really going to start a discussion over this. I see your point, however there are just obvious discrepancies between the way you and I would make a recommendation.

... and for the record I did read the thread very well :D

I see WHT as a great place to meet people and maybe even throw a hand at each other, so I really hate these kinds of threads :)

Originally posted by puggy106
Hello,
I am going to order a RAQ4i from one of these 2.

Rackshack has 300GB Bandwidth but has setup fee ....

Vortech had 100GB Bandwidth but no setup fee and has 256 RAM

Which is the better company?

I would like to hear your views:)

Thanks

Chris

bert, here was the original question asked in the post.



Hard feelings? What are those? :)

Look at my post. I changed it :)

OK, my turn. Can't we all just get along? Please?!

WHt is a great place to have open discussions and debate. Unfortunately with an "instant" medium like this forum, sometimes we write before we think what others will think we meant when we write what we write. Make sense?

The are LOTS of great hosting companies that post/follow this board. Every one of them has just a little something different to offer. Just server specs never tell the whole story.

The great majority of new hosting business (virtual especially) is being done by the "mom and pops" (Not to say Vortech is a "mom and pop cuz I don;t know). It is the American dream and spirit demonstrated in these businesses. Everybody has to eat, right?

Other than world domination, my personal goal is simply to host more dedicated servers than any other hosting company anywhere in the world! Just a small goal! :) (Verio - you guys are going down, baby!) There are thousands of customers with
"managed services" that they are paying lots of money for and they are paying for services that many of them do not need.

There is plenty of business for everyone. So, if I had just one dream other than world domination, I would dream that we could all just get along, have a little debate, talk up a few issues, and keep WHT THE place to go if you want to talk about anything even remotely related to web hosting

Robert Marsh
Head Surfer Rackshack.net

Mr. President :stickout

I think the thread got a bit question & answer-ish due to the nature of the question:
Originally posted by puggy106
Hello, I am going to order a RAQ4i from one of these 2.

Rackshack has 300GB Bandwidth but has setup fee ....
Vortech had 100GB Bandwidth but no setup fee and has 256 RAM

Which is the better company?

I would like to hear your views:)
Thanks Chris
-and the answer:
Originally posted by UmBillyCord
Rackshack hands down.
From the question, it seems bandwidth (transfer) isn't the main consideration (or else the choice would be obvious, as posted). While opinions are the point of the forum, it would be better to state, "I have no experience with hostb, but I'd personally choose hosta because..."

This was shortened to, "Rackshack hands down." -which (understandably) was a bit too short to be considered a valid opinion. I'm not saying the statement isn't valid, just that it could have been more detailed.

Anywhoooo, if anyone has used both, or has opinions on one or another (with reasons preferably), please post them so the thread gets back to the point.

This was shortened to, "Rackshack hands down." -which (understandably) was a bit too short to be considered a valid opinion. I'm not saying the statement isn't valid, just that it could have been more detailed.

I could agree with that. :)

Originally posted by Chicken
While opinions are the point of the forum, it would be better to state, "I have no experience with hostb, but I'd personally choose hosta because..."

My point all along :)

My point all along

Couldn't tell through all your other ramblings. :stickout

Thanks guys, this has really helped, sorry about the nature of the question, didnt mean for it to be like this,

Sorry,

Chris

I dont think I best say which company I choose

Sure you can. Tell us who and why. It might help not only others looking for something similar (who are trying to decide upon the same thing), but also the hosts themselves (both of which visit the forum). They need some feedback as to why customers either do, or don't, sign up with them. I think this can some of the most valuable feedback a company can get. The why is the important part of this though.

General note to everyone:
If you are choosing among a few hosts, please post your thoughts as you traveled towards making a decision, and your reasons for the final outcome (more detailed the better).

Well, i have thought long and hard as to whether or not to reply to this post, just due to the "debating" nature of it, but one more opinion couldn't hurt, eh?

About 8-9 months ago, i began hosting with Vortech with a site that i used to webmaster/design for, and have had nothing but pleasant experiences working with them (the site was just a standard hosting package... not a colo). Recently the church that i was working with at the time decided to shut down their website, but i picked up another one shortly thereafter, and it required a colocated server. I looked at many different options, but decided to give Vortech a shot once again, and thus far have been very impressed. The setup was very simple/straightforward, and since i happen to live in the area, i was able to drop the server off, and watch Brad and the crew hook it up and get it online (i had to watch, as the server is a Linux box, and they are not exactly my forte'... hehe). Anyway, to the point... i was, and still am, very happy that i made the choice to go with Vortech rather than trying out another company that i had no past experience with.

Granted, i will admit that my views are biased a bit, but i believe that they are an accurate representation of what would be expected of Vortech. If i didn't think that was the case, then my server would not be sitting in their racks.

Anyway, i just felt that i would post my views on this. If anyone has any questions of me, let me know by either Email or on this post. I am not an "active" poster by any means, but i enjoy lurking the boards... On a completely different note, i'd like to thank the people that make this board possible.. it is a great resource to those of us who have to go by the words and experience of others to make up our minds on some of this stuff... hehe.

Take Care!

John W.
ComposiMo@RPIracing.com
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