hello,

has someone a server at kingcomp.net?

their prices are great, but what about service?

Depends what you want. If you want a gameserver then wow go for it. If you want to host people FORGET IT. A few things that are bad are that IPs are extremley limited. Another thing is that downtime happens on Redhat Machines a lot. Also the hard drives that they use are not high quality they are.....5400 RPM I think (not sure). Like I said if you want a game server then you got a good deal if your looking for hosting I wouldn't suggest going to cheap.

Thanks
Sav

I wouldn't recommend a box on a Cogent connection for a gameserver, just because Cogent's network latency is rather high. My packets hit AT&T's network in Chicago in about 15ms, but from there they travel to Atlanta to a Cogent peering point before heading back to Chicago on Cogent's network, which brings my total latency up to about 120ms.

I've got a colocated box with KingComp, and so far things seem to be pretty good, though I'm just interested in pushing a lot of data, not in latency or reliability or whatnot. Obviously I can't speak about their quality of their machines as I don't have one.

You can check the bandwidth usage for my KingComp box here: http://www.amaroq.org/bandwidth/

May I ask you for the code (of course not the html) of this page? :)

Another thing is that downtime happens on Redhat Machines a lot.:eek:

I thought someone would ask that. Don't ask me but when I installed redhat on those machines most of them crashed in 2 days or less. However FreeBSD was much more stable and kept going fine.

I think that for a gameserver uptime isn't an issue.......actually it depends on what kind of game server (public or private)

But I am saying is that 95% Uptime for a network isn't good enough these days.

Thanks

True, FreeBSD is much more stable, not to mention far more secure. It also tends to be easier to administer once you get used to it. It's easy to update, and more organized that linux.

But don't host large MySQL databases on the SAME box you're running your other services -- apache, dns, mail, etc. It can really drag the machine down and give you horrible performance. (see the MySQL mailing list)

5.x should be a lot better. 4.x doesn't deal as well with dual CPUs as Linux does, either. Good for a faster single cpu on FreeBSD machines.

Hosts that use all-in-one machines or use more than one CPU should stick to Linux. The flavor that's most stable tends to be Debian. And no matter how temping it may seem, stay away from the newest flavors like Gentoo. (Kicks ass for non server environemnts, though!)

Or use a dedicated FreeBSD based MySQL server. Those work fine. It's just the poor (relative to linux) threading model FreeBSD uses that causes on trouble on a heavily loaded machine that ALSO runs SQL, or a dual cpu machine (or both!).

Originally posted by amaroq
I wouldn't recommend a box on a Cogent connection for a gameserver, just because Cogent's network latency is rather high. My packets hit AT&T's network in Chicago in about 15ms, but from there they travel to Atlanta to a Cogent peering point before heading back to Chicago on Cogent's network, which brings my total latency up to about 120ms.

But you got a game box. Well a MUD box, anyway. :)

I've got a colocated box with KingComp, and so far things seem to be pretty good, though I'm just interested in pushing a lot of data, not in latency or reliability or whatnot. Obviously I can't speak about their quality of their machines as I don't have one.

You can check the bandwidth usage for my KingComp box here: http://www.amaroq.org/bandwidth/

Wow. Saw you pushing in excess of 3600k/sec for awhile there.

May I ask, did you go through KingComp directly, or through someone like rastoma?

You have your own port, or sharing one?

I ask, because, if you're one of five on a port, obviously you're exceeding your share. heh. But if you're one of 3 on a port, or have your own, your numbers are fine.

I'd imagine, though, if you're pushing what you push now... those numbers are only going to grow. whew

where'd you colo before?

Hey,
Out of the box, most operating systems are insecure and often unstable. No server should be left with an unmodified operating system. It should be thoroughly secured and fine tuned to the point where it's very much negligible whether you run freebsd or linux. Furthermore, the distribution of linux is also unimportant. The core operating system is basically the same. The main differences lie how the package is put together.

Out of the box RedHat 7.1 or 7.2 is "unstable"?

Hey,
Several weeks ago, I set up a RedHat 7.2 system. For some reason the [idle] system would go into these unbelievably endless cpu loops at times, causing it to become unresponsive, and ultimately just halt. I went ahead and removed much of what was running, upgraded packages to secure and stable versions. The system has been running for 5 days now without a problem. I was a bit vague with my earlier post. It's not the operating system that can be insecure or unstable, it is the packaging. Although in the case of 7.2, it comes with a 2.4.7 kernel which I believe exist exploits.

x213Networks, don't you resell for them?

Originally posted by x213Networks
Another thing is that downtime happens on Redhat Machines a lot. Excuse me? When can I expect my Redhat box to go down? It's been up for about 6 months with no down time (except for my provider's scheduled network maintenance games). Maybe I'm doing something wrong? :-)

x213Sav is just mad because Peter, the owner of KingComp, dropped x213Sav as a customer/resellre because supposedly was giving false information about their data center and equipment and telling people that he owns the servers/part of the colo and that he as 24x7 access to the Data Center which are all lies. x213Sav, dont ruin a great company like King Comp just because you did stuff you wasn't suppose to

I've heard a similar story, something about a "kid" who miss-represented them :D

Funny how he used to love their offer now hates their stuff.

Another thing is that downtime happens on Redhat Machines a lot.

Depends if it was installed right.

x213 Network Sav, can you tell me why my Red Hat Linux box's in multiple data centers have all been up 4-5 months? Help! there must be something wrong with them, anybody have advice on behalf of Sav about RH not crashing?

Stability is administrator-related. A good administrator can even make windows stable.

Originally posted by jmars


Wow. Saw you pushing in excess of 3600k/sec for awhile there.

May I ask, did you go through KingComp directly, or through someone like rastoma?


I went through KingComp directly.


You have your own port, or sharing one?

I ask, because, if you're one of five on a port, obviously you're exceeding your share. heh. But if you're one of 3 on a port, or have your own, your numbers are fine.


I pay for the shared 10mb/s service. Whether that's what I'm actually getting isn't entirely clear to me, as the box is definitely connected at 100mb/s and I've been able to push/pull significantly more than 10mb/s over the Cogent link (15mb/s seems to be about the most I've gotten so far), and almost 50mb/s from another WHT poster's box at KingComp (test.saburovo.com).



I'd imagine, though, if you're pushing what you push now... those numbers are only going to grow. whew

where'd you colo before?

This box is new, so this its first colo. Bandwidth seems to have levelled off around 1mb/sec with an occasional peak to 5-8mb/sec. At the moment the box seems to be down, so we'll see. :-)

edit

But you got a game box. Well a MUD box, anyway.


MUD's don't seem to be as affected by latency as Quake, et al. are, and that's just sort of a "because I've nothing better to do with it" kind of a thing anyway. :-)

Also looks like the box is back up -- Petr responded to my email in about five minutes. Not a bad response time for what I'm paying! ;-) A reboot resets my bandwidth monitoring script, though (I don't bother to try to save its state), so the total/maximum bandwidth usage will probably be funny-looking for a while.

About downtime on redhat. I mean that it happens A LOT THERE. I love redhat and have it on my other machine at a different datacenter and it is stable. However KingComp installs them wrong or it acts up with their hardware because I had problems all the time with Redhat there.

x213Sav is just mad because Peter, the owner of KingComp, dropped x213Sav as a customer/resellre because supposedly was giving false information about their data center and equipment and telling people that he owns the servers/part of the colo and that he as 24x7 access to the Data Center which are all lies. x213Sav, dont ruin a great company like King Comp just because you did stuff you wasn't suppose to

Funny, See Petr Dropped me because he didn't want me showing anymore pictures of the Data Center. He didn't want me telling the truth. The pictures that I posted on my site were real. They were what Petr sent me and I have no idea why he is being an *******. I bet he is cleaning up the center and making everything neat and then is gonna take pictures. I have nothing against KingComp , I used them and they were alright. I just don't suggest using them for hosting sites (Virtual Hosting).

Originally posted by toro
A good administrator can even make windows stable. I doubt if Bill Gates could make Windows stable.

I doubt if Bill Gates could make Windows stable.A good admin can, but I don't think Billy G is a Windows admin :)

Originally posted by toro
A good administrator can even make windows stable.

NT maybe, anything else, i think it's more related to luck :). Remeber, don't install ie6.0 on 98se (trust, don't ask).

BTW, i realise i'm a direct competetor of kingcomp, and i have not verified this information (so don't flame me, if you're angry/curious, find out for yourself). But i heard that kingcomp did not have UPS, Backup, or HVAC (air conditioning) units, and got electricity free because they subleased the area (or something along those lines), and were potentially using a cogent end user subscription. I am assuming they've run an office in that building for some time, and when cogent came along, they added some boxes to their office. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but if it is, that explains a lot about the price (how they can offer stuff for basically what it costs to power/cool it).

Globes, hopefully that helps you out a bit. (whether you take it for face value, or look into it).

Regards,

NT maybe, anything else, i think it's more related to luckActually W2K is easier to make stable than NT, and it's really not luck but knowledge :)

has kingcomp stopped their colo/dedicated offer?

no links to that offer on kingcomp.net anymore :eek:

C'mon Mike, it's all luck in computers. Knowledge is worthless. :)

Drew