Hello,

I'm interested in having rollover bandwidth for my customers. I use Linux Red Hat 9 and DirectAdmin control panel.

I would like to have some sort of script which will calculate bandwidth and add it to their exisiting bandwidth each month.

I need to create a bash script or something. Could someone please help me out with this and point me in the right direction as to where I can find some more information on how to create the script and what I need to do, etc..

Thank you,
Larry Braziel Jr
CTO, HostFlight.com

Just a little tip, but set a limit on how much can be rolled over. If you don't, someone could stack up 10 months of 90% unused bandwidth and use it all in a matter of days by putting large videos and distributing them

Yes. Of course, there would have to be a limit. I mean, I could like top if out at like 75 GB or something like that. Do you or anyone else have any ideas on how to create a script that would do this?

Thank you,
Larry Braziel Jr
CTO, Host Flight.com

You probably should contact the DirectAdmin people about this since you'd need to mess with their software.

This modification would probably take me under 10 minutes with my company's control panel software if clients of mine requested such a feature.

Well don't plan on calling it Rollover Bandwidth as you will be sued for trademark infringement by Host Rocket.

I don't believe HostRocket has a trademark on "Rollover Bandwidth..." They make no mention of a trademark on their site...

Ok. Thank you. I will get in contact with DirectAdmin and see if they can help me setup such a feature.

Thank you!

It doesnt matter if they mention it. If you look up the trademark with the USPTo you will see:

Word Mark ROLLOVER BANDWIDTH
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: bandwidth. FIRST USE: 20000922. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20000922
Standard Characters Claimed
Mark Drawing Code (4) STANDARD CHARACTER MARK
Serial Number 78355496
Filing Date January 22, 2004
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Owner (APPLICANT) Hostrocket.com CORPORATION NEW YORK Suite 203 21 Corporate Drive Clifton Park NEW YORK 12065
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE


They have image of the words, not sure why they would trademark this - just be careful and research it before you use it.

Call it HangOver Bandwidth...lmao.

They do have a tradermark on "Rollover Bandwidth"

http://www.hostrocket.com/products/promo.htm


HostRocket Standard Features:
Rollover Bandwidth™
Advanced Control Panel
FREE Site Builder
24/7 Technical Support
50 Free Web Scripts

If that's the case, and I can't use Rollover Bandwidth, then HostRocket needs to sue ServerPlace.NET. Because, they are using the words "rollover bandwidth" all over their site and in forums.

Such as at this site:
http://askdedicatedserver.com/server/dedicated-hosting/887/ServerPlaceNet_Intel_P4_2.40GHz.html

I don't know if anyone wants to let HostRocket know or not, but just thought that I would bring it to someone's attention.

Regards.

I also noticed that "VerseHost" is using this as well. If you take a look at http://thewhir.com/marketwatch/ver011904.cfm - You will see that VerseHost has posted a Press Release which announces the launch of this service within their company.

Regards,

Wouldn't RollOver Transfer be the correct term.

Yes. I will be using "Rollover Transfer". Thank you for the suggestion. I was possibly thinking of some other terms as well, but I can not discuss my ideas here.

Regards,

Originally posted by HostFlight

I don't know if anyone wants to let HostRocket know or not, but just thought that I would bring it to someone's attention.

Regards.


Thanks for the suggestion, but notifying us isn't necessary.

I have a folder sitting somewhere in my office that contains a list of hosts using “rollover bandwidth”. Research has also been done on selected hosts from the list, and profiles for those hosts and their operators have been put together based on the information gathered through that process. Miscellaneous items such as printouts of announcements, site screenshots, copies of press releases, and things of that nature have also been collected as available for the hosts in question.

Trust me; I’m well aware of this as is the law firm that represents us for our business affairs pertaining to the HostRocket division.


Originally posted by HostFlight
Yes. I will be using "Rollover Transfer". Thank you for the suggestion. I was possibly thinking of some other terms as well, but I can not discuss my ideas here.

Regards,

Thank you for making a responsible decision.

Some other reputable hosts have also made wise business decisions. One such host would be Site5 who responsibly chose to launch Accumulative Bandwidth.

Originally posted by HRTimothy
I have a folder sitting somewhere in my office . . .
lol, I know the feeling. Good luck in tracking down that folder. Maybe some sniffer dogs and search teams would be in order? :D

Sounds like a good way to lose money

I've been researching and it seems HostRocket has made an error on their website. ;)

If this is a registered trademark in the United States it should be a circle R and not a TM.


Use of the "TM," "SM" and Circle-R ® Symbols

Anyone who claims rights in a mark may use the TM (trademark) or SM (service mark) designation with the mark to alert the public to the claim. It is not necessary to have a registration, or even a pending application, to use these designations. The claim may or may not be valid. The registration symbol, ® (circle-R), may only be used when the mark is registered in the PTO. It is improper to use this symbol at any point before the registration issues. Please omit all symbols from the mark in the drawing you submit with your application; the symbols are not considered part of the mark.


Disclaimer: Consult with your legal counsel for more information. Nothing in this post should be considered proper legal advise in any way. Offer not valid with any other promotions. Rinse and repeat. Hand wash only.

Im sure hr consulted there lawyers zach :)
rollover bandwith in my eyes is alot like overselling, if done right it could work. You would need the resources to cover you're potential losses(hr obviousley does) as well as a tos to protect you.

To me that stipulation says that they can only use a circle-r if they have a valid registration, and that a TM can be used regardless... It does not, however, say that they cannot use TM if they do have a valid registration...

Originally posted by BenEDH
To me that stipulation says that they can only use a circle-r if they have a valid registration, and that a TM can be used regardless... It does not, however, say that they cannot use TM if they do have a valid registration...

True but, when have you ever seen someone not use the circle-R when they have a registered trademark? :stickout:

I see it freqently around advertisements :)

Damnit, I call rollover transfer...now, wheres the registry office....

Originally posted by HostFlight
I also noticed that "VerseHost" is using this as well. If you take a look at http://thewhir.com/marketwatch/ver011904.cfm - You will see that VerseHost has posted a Press Release which announces the launch of this service within their company.

Regards,

Just to clarify, the term was used by the previous owner of VerseHost. The new owner has ceased to use the "Rollover Bandwidth" term. The press releases you are looking at were released by the previous owner of the VerseHost brand.

http://www.directadmin.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=856&highlight=rollover+bandwidth

;)

Best regards,
Matt

Originally posted by Philipf
Wouldn't RollOver Transfer be the correct term.

Well, whatever you call it, it's a brave host that offers it, without a 10 page disclaimer. :D

It would take me a month to think of all the stipulations and limitations you would have to use to avoid abuse XD.

That's a good idea :)
ALH's brand new program, BandwidthBanking!™

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Personally, if I had a registered trademark, I would ALWAYS have (R). That's notifying the viewer that you have full exclusive ownership rights to the _____ As the above said, anyone can slap ™ on something, but it takes money and time to register something.

Hell, Pepsi has the (R) mark after every time their name appears on something. On the can that's in front of me..I see two (R)s and one ™
lol

Originally posted by axe9

Personally, if I had a registered trademark, I would ALWAYS have (R). That's notifying the viewer that you have full exclusive ownership rights to the _____ As the above said, anyone can slap ™ on something, but it takes money and time to register something.
lol

Either way is fine though. If it's registered, it's registered.

Originally posted by HostFlight
Yes. I will be using "Rollover Transfer". Thank you for the suggestion. I was possibly thinking of some other terms as well, but I can not discuss my ideas here.

Regards,

hmm.... I like this concept. I saw one or two other hosts using rollover bandwidth, and they simply stated 'rollover bandwidth.'

Definately a smart marketing strategy! :)

Is it possible to do this with cPanel, on only some users accounts (not all) ?

There is a script available at:
http://www.premierwebsitesolutions.com/scripts/rollbandwidth/

I'm not sure how it works, cause I can't install it because I don't have CPanel, I have DirectAdmin, so I'm trying to find a way to do this with DirectAdmin. If anyone has any ideas, please let me know.

Warm Regards,

Originally posted by emzec
Im sure hr consulted there lawyers zach :)

Assume nothing. You'd be surprised at how many people who should have consulted an attorney for a given situation and who give every appearance of having done so are simply blowing smoke.

-B

Originally posted by TMX
Assume nothing. You'd be surprised at how many people who should have consulted an attorney for a given situation and who give every appearance of having done so are simply blowing smoke.

-B

I agree there are many people whose actions are just as you described. In this case, the poster referenced HostRocket so I will state once again (just so there is no confusion) that the law firm that represents us for our business affairs pertaining to the HostRocket division is involved with this and other daily affairs which have legal issues attached.

I speak to one attorney in particular almost on a daily basis these days. It is very important for businesses to take advantage of advisers such as lawyers, financial planners, and accountants. These people know what they're doing and can definitely help your business grow, prosper, and be protected.

Let's make this a productive thread and discuss the pros/cons of "rollover" as a marketing tool.

Originally posted by HRTimothy
I agree there are many people whose actions are just as you described. In this case, the poster referenced HostRocket so I will state once again (just so there is no confusion) that the law firm that represents us for our business affairs pertaining to the HostRocket division is involved with this and other daily affairs which have legal issues attached.

I apologize, Timothy - I was speaking in general terms and should have made that clear in my post.

-B

Originally posted by TMX
I apologize, Timothy - I was speaking in general terms and should have made that clear in my post.

-B

No problem, I thought that was your intention, just wanted to avoid any confusion later on.

Originally posted by Philipf
Damnit, I call rollover transfer...now, wheres the registry office....

http://www.uspto.gov :)

Anyone here is familiar with internet law and knows if I am going to run into trouble if I use
- Rollover Monthly Bandwidth
- Accumulated Bandwidth Rollover
- Bandwidth Rollover
- Bandwith Rock & Rollover

I think the last one is pretty catchy. :D

HostRocket's registration only holds for "Rollover Bandwidth" anything else should be alright... I'd imagine a good lawyer could argue that if you used a "1" instead of an "l" it's reasonably different...

Well I am pretty worried because of the microsoft's case against mikerowesoft.

Yea, but that's an abortion of justice if his name is actually Mike Rowe... Anyway, I doubt MS will win...