I have had a VERY busy past couple of weeks with orders from my last post of this. The servers have been performing above expectations. A couple of orders I was late by a day or two due to heavy volume of orders, but most servers were up and running within 3 days. I also have some new info posted below about the data center these servers are in and regarding posts from others trying to sell servers there as well.

Here are the specials for anyone that hasn't seen them yet:

UPDATE: We can now install, setup and support Cpanel/Web host manager! If you haven't seen WHM lately, the new features it has are awesome. Email me if you would like a test account with WHM to check it out.

Cpanel added to any server is $99/month. And we support Cpanel with quick response times.

DEDICATED SERVERS:

AMD XP1700 cpu
- 512mb Ram
- 40GB HDD
- 300 GB ACTUAL Bandwith transfer
- Your choice, either FreeBSD or Redhat 7.1
- Webmin Installed Free

$99 per Month
$175 Setup

Also:

AMD 1.2 gig Athlon cpu
- 256mb Ram
- 20GB HDD
- 300 GB ACTUAL Bandwith transfer
- Your choice, either FreeBSD or Redhat 7.1
- Webmin Installed Free

$99 per Month
$50 Setup

SPECIAL - You can get EITHER server setup on a 10mbps DEDICATED port for an additional $250/month. Pull all the bandwidth you want capped at 10mbps!

Data Center Information:

All Bandwith is Cogent. These servers are being maintained by a fairly new data center in Chicago called Kingcomp.

UPDATE:
The other individual that has been offering servers from KC and that has posted pics from KC is no longer able to offer any services from KC. This info was given to me from the owner of the data center and can be verified through him. This other individual (kid) has posted pictures that he's described as KC's datacenter. Those pics are NOT the datacenter. They have WAY too many systems up and running to have them sitting in the floor with wires running all over the place. Those systems were in a separate service center at the facility that were either being rebuilt, tested or repaired. I don't have any pics of the actual data center room. I really don't understand why they would be needed but I have requested some so I may have them available soon.

This data center is a very well mainted center. Is it as big as Rackshack? No. Would Ford motor company host their site/server there? Probably not. Not because it wasn't quality bandwidth or insecure (the board of trade buildings has more security than most larger dc's anywhere, which most are on ground floor. KC is not on ground floor and has no loading docks or other easily accesible means of entry). Is this one of the best places as far as quality compared to price for a gaming server, or personal dedicated server, or for webhosting servers? I think so, and so do numerous new and existing customers that are hosted there. Just ping the address and download the test file below to see how well the server performs. There are those that want to find flaws in this situation because of one reason or another, and some concerns are warranted. But if you read all the information concerning these servers and the data center, you can decide for yourself.

MORE INFO ABOUT KINGCOMP:

They are a fairly new company as regards to offering dedicated servers but has been in the hardware business for almost 2 years and will not have the big glitter of Rackshack or some other well known data centers. They are starting off like everyone has but the connections are SUPER and the performance and quality of the hardware just can't be beat at this price.

We're talking about wholesale services here so if you are looking for a $99 server and want the extras that other data centers charge $300+ a month for, but don't want to pay the $300+, then this isn't for you. If you want a great server with superb performance for a great price, this is it. Why should you buy from instead of saving a few bucks and going directly? I have better prices for the upgrades and can offer quicker support due to me having a more important role there with more importance placed on my support needs because of having a lot of servers there. Not that they don't offer good support, but a customer with several servers usually has a better in the door with support than someone who has one. Also, they are offering support to dozens and dozens of people a day. My experience let's me maintain the servers remotely with very little needed from the data center other than hardware repairs.


Hardware Upgrades:

Upgrade existing hard drive (one time cost) -
20 gig to: 40 gig=$25, 60 gig=$45, 80 gig=$90

To add second hard drive -
40GB=$110 one time fee or $30/month
60GB=$155 one time fee or $45/month
80GB=$185 one time fee or $55/month

Memory -
Upgrade memory (one time cost) -
256 mb=$55, 512 mb=$99

Additional Bandwith:
Bandwidth is not calculated per gig, it is based on connection. There will be a maximum of 5 servers on a 10mb port (not hub) and will be balanced so that one machine doesn't pull away from the others, so basically you'll have close to a 2mbps connection. I advertise 300 gigs because you can easily pull at least that much and that's what people are used to seeing advertised. But basically there are no overage charges because of this.

IP Usage:

Right now due to Kingcomp's business plan that I have no control over, there will be a maximum of 2 IP's given at no cost for shared servers, and 5 given to dedicated servers (on 10mbps port). Additional IP's are $5 each (I know.. don't make any comments on the IP price). As we all know name based hosting needs just ONE IP. If you need a hundred IP's to do business with, then I would recommend another provider.


Additional Information:
- No contract, minimum one month required
- Support is available 24 hours a day via ICQ
- Legal adult content allowed
- IRC, Illegal (illegal mp's, warez, etc), and Spam related services - are strictly prohibited
- Reboots are availabe via ICQ request 24 hours a day (1 hr time - frame for reboots).

Ordering Information:
Email - hostmaster@myvirtualnet.net

Contact Information:
ICQ: 2070082
AIM: virtualnet37421

Setup Information:
Servers are generally setup within 48 hours.

Ensim is having a great deal on their 100 domain Webappliance license for only $199 one time fee. See www.ensim.com for more information. We do not offer official support for Ensim due to our limited experience with it, but as far as the server is concerned we still offer as much support as you need for OS and hardware issues.

You can PING the following IP:
- 66.28.242.119

Download a test file:
http://66.28.242.119/setupcs2k60xp.exe

Aprox how long will it take for you to get a server up?


You know I really should start reading the entire post :D

hey rastoma, if theres 5 pc's per port and they're not using hubs.... how do you plug in 5 pc's per port *and* avoid one pc from taking all of the bandwidth without a fully managed switch, because i can't imagine he's buying fully managed switches and maintaining them at this price.

Originally posted by porcupine
hey rastoma, if theres 5 pc's per port and they're not using hubs.... how do you plug in 5 pc's per port *and* avoid one pc from taking all of the bandwidth without a fully managed switch, because i can't imagine he's buying fully managed switches and maintaining them at this price.

They are not hubs... each server gets a max of 2mbps.

What datacenter in chicago

I live in chicago so where is this located

Joe

Rastoma: yeh, im just asking how they can make it so one server can't take all the bandwidth when they're doing a switch to a ... hub/switch (8 port?) to pc's. How do you stop one user from using all the bandwidth is what i'm asking unless you have managed switches, which at the price he offers, i doubt, im just curious as to if theres some kinda trick i've never seen before to do this ^_^

JBIZZ its the KINGCOMP facility. :D

Synergy well unless its out of someones house or in a warehouse

That datacenter must not exist.

Never heard of it and Ive toured all the major ones in chicago

My question is where is this located

There has to be a address, I can tell you where mine is located in chicago

Equinix , 350 N Cermak, CHicago IL

Joe

They are not hubs... each server gets a max of 2mbps.


I have a question. I beleive in another post you wrote that you can pull at least 300GB from them. And that the bw is unmeterted. However you now say that they can only get a MAX of 2mbps? How is that possible without a switch? Do you have someone watching each servers logs and emailing them when they go over?

Thanks
Sav :D

Originally posted by JBIZ718
Synergy well unless its out of someones house or in a warehouse

That datacenter must not exist.

Never heard of it and Ive toured all the major ones in chicago

My question is where is this located

There has to be a address, I can tell you where mine is located in chicago

Equinix , 350 N Cermak, CHicago IL

Joe

So this is how you drum up business for your business by postings like this? That's fine if you need to do that.. no problem.

Did you read the message though before needing to TRY to discredit someone and make yourself look good? Please read the messages and you'll see where the connectivity is. It's been posted where the connection is, it's posted this is not a massive 100,000 sq ft data warehouse.

And if the center doesn't exist I guess the IP and the sample download file just traces magically through space some how.

Originally posted by x213Networks



I have a question. I beleive in another post you wrote that you can pull at least 300GB from them. And that the bw is unmeterted. However you now say that they can only get a MAX of 2mbps? How is that possible without a switch? Do you have someone watching each servers logs and emailing them when they go over?

Thanks
Sav :D

Seeing how you USED to sell servers from there and seeing how Peter no longer accepts any orders from you, you should know. But seeing how I answered the question and there new people here I'll repeat, they are NOT hubs, they are switches, so that is how it's possible to pull a max of 2mbps from a shared 10mbps port.

rastoma: uh, no disrespect here, but a switch won't share a load between multiple pc's evenly unless it's managed, are these managed switches? or regular ones? Because if they're just regular ones, people can still whore all 10mbps.

Ok. Well As you know I hope that no one gets hurt. KingComp is a good datacenter if you want to have a Game Server.

If you want to have a host FIND SOMEWHERE else cuz KC only allows 2 Ips per server.

The pictures are true and here is the convo of when Bummer (KC) Sent them to me.
...
2/7/02 6:11 PM Sav: I also never got the pictures
2/7/02 6:12 PM Bummer: 66.28.242.108
2/7/02 6:15 PM Bummer: here`s one... I am gonna call my wife and tell her to upload me more cause forgot when I was home
2/7/02 6:15 PM Sav: Ok
...

Here is the address of this Data Center:

Board of Trade Building
North Building Suite #3602
Chicago,IL

I am not trying to put anyone out of biz.

And I highly doubt KingComp could afford to offer these services at such low prices if they had switches.

Here is 2 other convos:

This shows why KingComp offers cheap prices:

Bummer: I have access lot of cheep software for comanies that went out of business so I get them really cheap
--------------
Sav: How much do pay for electirc per month?
Bummer: nothing
Sav: ????
Bummer: I am subleasing the place so I don`t pay nothing
Sav: Electric??? NOTHING
Bummer: nope :-)


I am not trying to bring anyone down. Just want to show you my expericnes with this company. I did have a good server. All though the one I have currently reboots every 20 Min :rolleyes:

Anyway. Just My $.02

Thanks :D

I know everyone likes to jump on the bandwagon of discrediting someone when a good deal comes around... I admit I've done it myself.

I have hid nothing about this offer... there is nothing shady about it... nothing that I've not answered the best I can.

If anyone needs to make this offer look bad because it helps them in their business or makes them feel good then by all means go ahead. I have sold a lot of servers... still more orders this morning before I reposted this offer. WHT is not the 'hub' of the hosting world. I have been in the virtual hosting business for 2 years. I haven't been around as long as others so % wise I don't have that many comments about me or my business, but last time I looked there is not a single bad one. What I'm offering is legit. Because it doesn't fit the profile of your typical dedicated server and you don't want to sign up then don't. If you want to scare people into not buying because you hope they come to you, then fine. If you need customers that bad I don't want to stand in your way. And don't tell me you're just trying to help potential customers because again everything is in the open here. I'm not a nobody that's popped in here.

This offer is not the offer to end it all.... it's not meant to fit EVERYBODY's needs. It was never advertised that way. But because it can't be matched by many people right doesn't make it not legit. My business is easily reachable and so is info about me. And most of these posts are from people whose been in business less time than I have and think they know it all.

That's basically what I have to say about it. If you are not comfortable with this offer then don't sign up please.

UPDATE:

If anyone orders after the time of this post it will be Wednesday before the server is available. All orders up to this post should be online within 36 hours.

You can still place the order at:
www.myvirtualnet.net/dedicated.html but again the server will not be online until Wed.

Thank you.

rastoma:

I'm not interested whatsoever in discrediting your offer, i'm just trying to figure out how you share bandwidth evenly over a switch thats not managed. I'm only interested in hearing about/learning this trick, because i've never heard of anything like that before and could put such such a setup to good use personally, but i like knowing how things work. If it seems like im trying to discredit you, i appologize ;). Anyhow, if you don't know how he does it and thats why you haven't answered, then thats fine too, i can always go harass him to figre it out hehe :D.

LOL......YOUR RIGHT I MEAN YOUR 100% RIGHT , HOwever (yes there is always a however)


YOU HAVE NO RIGHT IN DISREPECTING ME LIKE THAT. THE PUBLIC DOES NOT HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WENT ON BETWEEN ME AND KINGCOMP, EVEN THOUGH THATS NOT TRUE.

ALSO, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT LIEING ABOUT THE DATACENTER.

THOSE ARE THE PICTURES AND KINGCOMP IS TRYING TO FOOL YOU. WHY DON"T YOU ASK HIM FOR PICTURES WITH HIM AND HIS "STAFF" STANDING IN THEM.

IF YOUR OFFER IS SHADY WHY ARE YOU LYING ABOUT THE DATACENTER.

I CAN'T STAND PEOPLE LIKE YOU. AT LEAST I HAVE THE BRAINS TO WARN OTHER PEOPLE.


Thank You :angry: :angry:

Originally posted by porcupine
rastoma:

I'm not interested whatsoever in discrediting your offer, i'm just trying to figure out how you share bandwidth evenly over a switch thats not managed.

I know you're not porcupine. I think you and I are a lot of time a couple of crusaders here :) j/k

I will get the technical info about their switchs and send to you, as I know what they do but not the technical details or brands/models of the switches.

Originally posted by x213Networks
LOL......YOUR RIGHT I MEAN YOUR 100% RIGHT , HOwever (yes there is always a however)

I CAN'T STAND PEOPLE LIKE YOU. AT LEAST I HAVE THE BRAINS TO WARN OTHER PEOPLE.



Now THIS is funny :D

Of all the deceipts told by one person (you) about a business, you're saying something like that. LOL

I really don't want to get into it further with you. I have no personal grudges against you. Compare your posts to mine and see who has mispresented what then get back to me.

Originally posted by JBIZ718
Synergy well unless its out of someones house or in a warehouse

That datacenter must not exist.

Never heard of it and Ive toured all the major ones in chicago

My question is where is this located

There has to be a address, I can tell you where mine is located in chicago

Equinix , 350 N Cermak, CHicago IL

Joe



This help you any?



root@grep [~]# whois -h rwhois.cogentco.com -p 4321 66.28.242.119
[rwhois.cogentco.com]
%rwhois V-1.5:0010b0:00 rwhois.cogentco.com
network:ID:NET-421CF2601B
network:Network-Name:NET-421CF2601B
network:IP-Network:66.28.242.96/27
network:Org-Name:Kingcomp Systems Inc.
network:Street-Address:3416 N. Harlem Ave.
network:City:Chicago
network:State:IL
network:Postal-Code:60634
network:Country-Code:US
network:Tech-Contact:ZC108-ARIN
network:Updated:2002-01-29 19:04:17
network:Updated-By:tor

%ok


:D

I have nothing to say. Seems like you only replied to the comments that you wanted to. I am not trying to offend anyone. Just want to tell you that its not fair for you to tell people that those pictures on my site aren't real. Ummm Ya they are. And I proved it. KingComp is trying to pull something so please don't beleive them. Other then that, the systems are speedy and the connections are solid. But just make sure you get this package because you it fits YOU. Remember no more then 2 Ips per box. Also, could you send me info on the switches? I want some information. Also what type of hard drives mother boards, memory and processors are they?

Thanks
Sav:D

Originally posted by x213Networks
I have nothing to say. Seems like you only replied to the comments that you wanted to. I am not trying to offend anyone. Just want to tell you that its not fair for you to tell people that those pictures on my site aren't real. Ummm Ya they are. And I proved it. KingComp is trying to pull something so please don't beleive them. Other then that, the systems are speedy and the connections are solid. But just make sure you get this package because you it fits YOU. Remember no more then 2 Ips per box. Also, could you send me info on the switches? I want some information. Also what type of hard drives mother boards, memory and processors are they?

Thanks
Sav:D

Again you think that by posting this that no one is going to read my original post. The first 2 IP's are free for servers on shared 10mbps ports and 5 IP's are free for servers on dedicated 10mbps ports. Additional IP's are high and I have no control over the cost of them. They are $5 each/month.

Sav, you don't know the difference between a motherboard a piece of RAM because when you were asked this same question you listed the brand of the memory as the motherboard and vice versa.

I'm torn about replying to every negative, unjustified post because if I keep replying I'm stooping down to your level. If I don't reply some may think it's true. So I can't win....

But doesn't matter. So far, every time you have posted to this forum and I have checked my email I got a new order. So please keep it up!! :)

Hi, i currently have 3 servers with rastoma he is a very good provider i have not had any problems with him ever i am going to be buying probally 15+ more servers from him within 3 months he is the best out very good in every aspect such as support, customer service , and many other things if you need a friendly person to deal with then this is the guy he is the best i have ran into.

On the other hand have baught 1 server from x123 networks or whatever his name is and he didn't setup the server on the prompted date like 5 days after that date. Very bad support , cussed me out when i asked what my second ip was for nameservers ( i asked because he never told me ) so i advise you go with x123 networks if you want to get 1 or more of the 3 things to happen to you and probally more then i listed.

1.) Very bad support
2.) Cheated out of your money
3.) Cussed out for asking for a little of support

On the other hand have baught 1 server from x123 networks or whatever his name is and he didn't setup the server on the prompted date like 5 days after that date. Very bad support , cussed me out when i asked what my second ip was for nameservers ( i asked because he never told me ) so i advise you go with x123 networks if you want to get 1 or more of the 3 things to happen to you and probally more then i listed.

Umm.......Ah yes, this must be my good friend Nihhuna. If you would like information on him please search for flamehost.com hehehe. Anyway.

I am off to better


Thanks

Uhm sorry, but x123 network wrong this is michost not Flamehost or whatever you claim us to be. :)

Wow... All those competitors trying to break this company down... How cool, but wouldn't people be better off minding their own business ?

I personally bought a server from Rastoma and can only admit that what he provides is Quality. I had some irregular specifications, things that I would need in/on the server. I got them. I got fast replies to emails, got a friendly person at the other side.
The server's quality is great, the network rocks. We know how Cogent performs, but for this price, this is a killerdeal. And after all, for high stream hosting (which is what their servers are meant for), Cogent rocks.

For future high-transfer servers, I'll go with Rastoma. If you doubt at this very moment, don't hesitate. Contact him, sign up and you'll be satisfied.

I have no personal interests in posting good comments here, but when something is good, it needs to be said. Especially when outsiders are flaming and trying to break it down. I know about what they offer, so I can post my comments. (hint)

Carl

Thank you Mango. I appreciate that... you're $100 is in the mail now... :D <just kidding>

I appreciate the support.

HEY! you only gave me $50, what is this?! am i not as credible?! i deserve at least 2x what you gave him, i've got more posts! This is an outrage! hehe

Rastoma, we've gotten a few reports on this thread. you seem to be doing a good job of handling it.

Please, if you have a question feel free to ask it but do not go out of your way to put offers down. We'll see where this thread goes...

I e-mailed Petr at KingComp, and he said IRC is allowed. He also said everyone gets a minimum guaranteed speed of 3.333 Mbps, burstable up to 10 Mbps. He says the IP addresses are expensive because their IP resources are limited. They don't even have control over their own reverse DNS. They sound great, but three things bother me.

1. They only use Cogent, so if Cogent goes down, there's no backup connection.
2. Even though it's Cogent, it's fast since there's not many servers. I'm worried that in the future, it'll get overloaded and the connection speed will slow down.
3. He has a limited amount of IP addresses, so getting more is costly.

I'm just stating some facts here. I don't know if I'll go with them for a business server, since they don't have a track record yet, but for a personal server, it sounds like a great deal.

Originally posted by Chicken
Rastoma, we've gotten a few reports on this thread. you seem to be doing a good job of handling it.

Please, if you have a question feel free to ask it but do not go out of your way to put offers down. We'll see where this thread goes...

Thank you...

Originally posted by ToastyX
I e-mailed Petr at KingComp, and he said IRC is allowed. He also said everyone gets a minimum guaranteed speed of 3.333 Mbps, burstable up to 10 Mbps. He says the IP addresses are expensive because their IP resources are limited. They don't even have control over their own reverse DNS. They sound great, but three things bother me.

1. They only use Cogent, so if Cogent goes down, there's no backup connection.
2. Even though it's Cogent, it's fast since there's not many servers. I'm worried that in the future, it'll get overloaded and the connection speed will slow down.
3. He has a limited amount of IP addresses, so getting more is costly.

I'm just stating some facts here. I don't know if I'll go with them for a business server, since they don't have a track record yet, but for a personal server, it sounds like a great deal.

He allows IRC yes. When I resell a server I don't allow it because I'm providing the bulk of support on these servers. Plus I know IRC can cause a strain on the network. I don't want to contribute to that by allowing my servers to run it.

Your info about the connection WAS correct. He used to have a max of 3 servers per 10mbps port. But after seeing how on average most servers were not pulling a lot of bw and even those that were pulling a good deal, they were not approaching 10mbps so that meant a lot of it went to waste. So there are 5 servers per 10mbps port now... thus the difference between your info and mine now.

And I agree with your concerns... about Cogent and all.

But he can easily get additional 100mbps ports when he needs them so network capacity won't be a big issue.

But like you mentioned, it's a great deal and each person has to decide if it's feasible for their particular need or purpose.

UPDATE: after talking with Peter.... there are still 3 servers per port as of today, so toastyx you're info is still correct :)

But that is changing... I thought it had changed by now.. but even so I will continue to advertise 5 per port because that's what it will be soon.

I just noticed you listed RedHat 7.1, but in a previous ad, you mentioned RedHat 7.2. Which one would be installed? Also, are you able to offer Cpanel for $70/month yet? ;)

Originally posted by ToastyX
I just noticed you listed RedHat 7.1, but in a previous ad, you mentioned RedHat 7.2. Which one would be installed? Also, are you able to offer Cpanel for $70/month yet? ;)

They will load either.. but 7.1 has been easier to work with plus several customers have been installing Ensim which needs 7.1.

If I don't make a post Monday evening, email me and ask. I should know by then.

hey guys
whats all that bashing about Cogent?
whats soooo bad about Cogent anyway?

This has been debated many times. Do a search. It's only opinion, and most people love their performance. The only issue most people have is the long-term viability of $30/Meg pricing.

Regs,
Drew

I ordered a server with them a few days ago, and have had no problems. They have greate support, and the staff is really friendly. They set my server up when the said they would. They also installed WHM/Cpanel very promptly, and I reccomend them to anyone. If they keep it up I will buy many more servers from them.


Thanks,

will do
thx Drew :)

Your offerings all look to be good buys and your posts have been very professional. Guess, the only issue I see at this point is you need to continue to work Kingcomp to come up with a way to offer reasonable IP pricing. I know it isn't under your control, but it will restrict their business and restrict your business.

Originally posted by Incognito
Your offerings all look to be good buys and your posts have been very professional. Guess, the only issue I see at this point is you need to continue to work Kingcomp to come up with a way to offer reasonable IP pricing. I know it isn't under your control, but it will restrict their business and restrict your business.

I agree... I bug him everyday about it :)

But until then I've suggested to people who have a need for multiple IP's that another provider will be a better deal for them due to the IP price. But several server buyers have realized they will only be doing name based hosting so it's ok for those instances.

Originally posted by Design123
I ordered a server with them a few days ago, and have had no


Thank you for your support.

Originally posted by nuno
hey guys
whats all that bashing about Cogent?
whats soooo bad about Cogent anyway?

I'm beginning to wonder the same thing. In this instance, Cogent performs very well. On the other hand, I've seen Cogent perform poorly. It seems to depend on the provider utilizing the bandwidth. I guess that can apply to any bandwidth provider. The only other concern is if Cogent can stay in business with such low prices. I'm not really worried about Cogent going out of business. I'm more concerned about KingComp. What's weird is, I feel like I can trust Robin more than KingComp themselves. Anyway, this seems like a great deal, except for no redundancy and limited IP resources. What will happen when KingComp runs out of IP addresses? :confused:

ToastyX, I think you perfectly summed up my own feeling.

I discussed his offers at length with Robin and he really sounds like a serious no-bull guy. What was -is- worrying me is Kingcomp themselves. I believe we can trust Robin, but I'm not sure how much he, in turn, should trust Kingcomp. Maybe he could tell us here a bit more about this company and explain to us why he trusts them, I'm sure it would make everybody feel more comfy.

Regards,
-Chris.

Originally posted by ToastyX


What's weird is, I feel like I can trust Robin more than KingComp themselves. Anyway, this seems like a great deal, except for no redundancy and limited IP resources. What will happen when KingComp runs out of IP addresses? :confused:


Thanks... that means a lot to me!! :)

I don't think they will run out.... just apparantly Cogent is being real restrictive on allocating them. We just talked a couple of hours ago and I was going over with him what all the IP's were being used for on the servers I've sold lately. He had to list hosting, or game server or whatever on a form that was submitting to Cogent on Monday for more IP's. I guess it is possible to run... but since they are controlling them so tightly it looks like it won't be any time soon.

Originally posted by cyansmoker
ToastyX, I think you perfectly summed up my own feeling.

I discussed his offers at length with Robin and he really sounds like a serious no-bull guy. What was -is- worrying me is Kingcomp themselves. I believe we can trust Robin, but I'm not sure how much he, in turn, should trust Kingcomp. Maybe he could tell us here a bit more about this company and explain to us why he trusts them, I'm sure it would make everybody feel more comfy.

Regards,
-Chris.

And thanks for nice opinion of me as well.

I talked with Peter at Kingcomp for over a month, almost on a daily basis before getting my first server which I used myself for testing for almost 2 weeks before my first sell. Without writing a book on what he and I talked about, I just got the feeling he wasn't pulling anything over on me. I did some research about his business. He's not a new business per say... he is fairly new in offering these servers and bandwidth. I found some posts regarding his feedback from other customers for hardware sales at:
http://www.heatware.com/eval.php4?id=3898

now of course I know there is a big difference between selling a motherboard and offering dedicated servers, but a person's business manners are usually the same no matter what they are selling. If you'll look through his feedback there is around 3 years of postive feedback regarding his business practices. Around October is when he started concentraing more on his data center but still deals in hardware. And again, I feel that usually if a person is honest is small things they are usually honest in big things as well.

If he does go out of business any time soon, I don't think it will be because he was trying to make a fast buck and didn't care about the quality and longevity of his business and taking care of customers. Big business go out of business all the time with no one realizing it was going to happen until it did. He cares about what he's doing and I feel he has a good idea about how to handle it.

I hope the resellers have better luck communicating with KingComp than I did. I emailed 3 different email addresses on KingComp's site, twice each, starting almost a week ago asking them questions about their dedicated servers and still have not received any response. I take that as a very bad sign.

:D After reading this whole thread ive decided to not join in!

From what I understand of my many chats with Robin,
the very reason why they have this deal with him is because they want his company to be the one who takes your phone calls and offers support, etc.
I think they want to remain strictly on the technical side, building, setting up and hooking up the servers.

So what you just wrote is what I would expect, yes.

Originally posted by cyansmoker
From what I understand of my many chats with Robin,
the very reason why they have this deal with him is because they want his company to be the one who takes your phone calls and offers support, etc.
I think they want to remain strictly on the technical side, building, setting up and hooking up the servers.

So what you just wrote is what I would expect, yes.

You are mistaken. KingComp advertises the dedicated servers on their website and invites inquiries...they just never respond to them.

http://www.kingcomp.net/colocation%20price.htm

They even linked the email wrong. There is a (WWW.) in front of the address. I emailed sales@kingcomp.net, bummer@kingcomp.net, and pkral@21stcentury.net. No response! It's been my experience that a basic failure to communicate is a very strong indication of the quality behind a company. Others may think differently, but I've given up on KingComp.

OK, so allow me to rephrase my previous post, if you don't mind:

"It is possible that Kingcomp wants to focus on the technical side and decided that they want to give up communication with clients, and this is why they made this deal with Robin so that he becomes the human interface"

How about that? ;)

I really can't argue the point that you're making because frankly I'm not sure what it is. I'll just say that when a company advertises a product or service on their website and asks customers to email them for details and then declines to respond to multiple inquiries, I fail to see any reasonable explanation how that could be a normal business approach. If they don't want to deal with customers on this service then they can change their website. If that's too difficult for them to do, and they would need maybe a month or two lead time to accomplish that, then they could simply respond to an email saying "we don't handle that anymore, talk to so and so". Not responding to customers is just bad business...hell, it isn't even business.

I've e-mailed petr@kingcomp.net twice and received a response both times within 24 hours.

Originally posted by ToastyX
I've e-mailed petr@kingcomp.net twice and received a response both times within 24 hours.

Well, if that's the only email address they respond to it would be nice if they listed it on their website along with the other three they don't respond to.

With all honesty i come to this section of the forum for WEB HOSTING SPECIAL OFFERS! Not everyones opinions (Which are not at all bad)

How about we stop flamming others about there offers cause you know next time around there going to flame you...

If you want to ask them a serious question PM them or email them, you dont have to kick there ass in front of everyone just because your a competitor or what not.

If anyone has something bad to say AFTER they have had experience with the company then flame all you want in the Main forum were we all do (Not that this is good).

This should apply to all the posts in this section not just this one...
I know its a furm for discussion on web hosting but the advert section should stay as an advert section.

You dont look through a magazine and find something to say about the design of each ad, cause in reality the people advertising are offering this and thats it. Point being you want more info email/call/pm them...

Everyone knows that this forum is addictive, so why waste our reading time with junk...

I wish the mods could do something about this!

Thanks anyway...

I'm not sure why some have not received a reply from Peter at KC and while others have.

I'm sure it wasn't intentional. He's there to make money... not to refuse it. But he has been SWAMPED with orders (mostly from me hehe). I'm not the only reseller he has but I think I've been the most involved with him over the last few weeks. He used to take support requests through ICQ but he was getting so many ICQ im's with questions that he rarely is on ICQ much lately. But email is answered promptly from me... within minutes usually. Of course since I have several servers there I'm going to get answers and support quickly. Not that new customers are not important, so I apologize on behalf of him to anyone who thought they were being ignored.

But, starting tommorrow, there will be a change regarding his dedicted servers. I won't say what it will be. But servers will be available through me always. He and I have talked about me being front line contact. I don't know if that is going to happen exclusively right now, because again he has others that sell servers also.

There have been a couple of people testify to the service and support they have gotten. One of the people that posted, didn't mention the fact that I've had to do 3 reinstalls of RH on his machine. But know that this is the ONLY server thus far that I've had trouble like that..... it was an issue with Cpanel on this one server.. I've installed it a dozen times just this past week and have had perfect installs, except for this one... but that happens sometimes. Now the reason I'm telling you about it is I got 2 hard drive formats and reinstall of RH within 24 hrs on the same machine. Which each time I was here to immediately load cpanel on. Now I mention this situation to show that while communication has been broken from KC to some of you, you don't have to worry whether or not I will be able to support you or your server through them.

Thats very reassuring. Glad to see your honesty here Robin - i have been waiting to hear from KC also waiting to hear from other companies also. Perhaps im in a virtual blackhole! :D

So will we be hearing from you about this change tomorrow?

Best of luck with your venture!

Mark

Originally posted by Choppy
With all honesty i come to this section of the forum for WEB HOSTING SPECIAL OFFERS! Not everyones opinions (Which are not at all bad)

If anyone has something bad to say AFTER they have had experience with the company then flame all you want in the Main forum were we all do (Not that this is good).



I agree Choppy and thanks for pointing that out. But I do realize that some of these posts are not meant to be flames (though some are because of people upset someone else is making a dollar).... some are just concerned that they will be getting their money's worth and if the deal is legit.

But the second point above that I quoted from you should apply there... that the fact that no bad direct experiences with KC or me have been posted, then that is a good sign they are ok. And we all know WHT members are the first ones to come here and make sure others know about something when they have a bad experience but we're not too quick to post good ones.

I know the offer hasn't been around a long time but has for around 2 weeks (I've offered it longer on other forums and to individuals).... but there have been NO posts saying they didn't get what they paid for, or their server has been down or anything like that.... just positive experiences. So that, while may not be someone's only deciding factor, would be a pretty good one to start with.

note: of course nothing is perfect.. I've had a couple things that had to be corrected here and there... 128 megs of ram upgrade was left out by mistake, corrected within 3 hours of me being notified by customers. One had an 80 gig hard drive that the bios of the machine didn't setup correctly and only saw around 50 gigs available. This was taken care of within about 8 hours or so because of having to replace MB and reload system. And these were things that had to be fixed before the customer brought the server online so they didn't lose any business over it. And there have been just these 2-3 problems out of all the servers I've sold... and the problems were taken care of as fast as possible. Also the customers saw that and have been very happy. They almost welcomed the issues that needed to be fixed because they saw how fast they were taken care of, and felt even better about the great deal they just got.