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Michael96
02-23-2002, 08:58 AM
Hi

I live in England and plan to set up as a reseller.

Which do you think is best having and why?

ns1.mydomain.com
ns2.mydomain.com

or

ns1.mydomain.co.uk
ns2.mydomain.co.uk

Does it make a diference, I will register both .com and .co.uk but I can only go with one for the name servers. BTW the site will be hosted in USA, as prices are way lower than UK reseller plans.

Looking at 100Mb web space and 1Gb bandwidth per month with
FrontPage for $10/$15 month! Support will be live during UK office hours and via e-mail at other times.

Regards
Michael

Alan - Vox
02-23-2002, 09:18 AM
it can be more difficult to register name servers for .co.uk domains so i would recommend you buy a .com

Cheappy
02-23-2002, 10:43 AM
why would it be more difficult SplashHost? It's same thing. I've used it before, well I used uk.org but it should be similar to .com/net/org!

Alan - Vox
02-23-2002, 11:16 AM
well a lot of people buy their .co.uk's from ukreg.com and you cant do it there but you can do .coms

Dedicated
02-23-2002, 01:35 PM
I agree with splashhost it is not easy to register dns for .co.uk but you can always phone or contact http://www.nominet.org.uk/ to register your dns.

Walter
02-23-2002, 04:09 PM
If you want to have customers from outside the UK use a .com nameserver, looks way better.

xnet
02-23-2002, 04:52 PM
true - customers in the US might see your namesevers and .co.uk and for some reason not buy w/ you. Little things like that affect people.

Paul-UKWSD
02-23-2002, 07:24 PM
Its better to buy a .com as you can setup the nameservers very easyily through ukreg.

I would buy both if I was you, .co.uk and .com. It's better you have the name rather than somebody else for the sake of few pounds.

mdrussell
02-23-2002, 07:40 PM
Go for .com if they are available - although it's just as easy to register nameservers for both .com and .co.uk (as long as Verisign isn't your registrar!).

Incognito
02-23-2002, 11:38 PM
Yes, you should...go with both.

.com is by far the more acceptable in the U. S. if you intend to do business here.

But, I would also take the uk to appeal to my fellow countrymen if I was you.

GordonH
02-24-2002, 01:46 PM
Hello

If anyone has problems registering name servers based on .uk or any other International TLD send me the hostnames and I will add them to the gTLD .info .biz and .cc name server databases.
It only takes about a minute using the OpenSRS tools.

Gordon

-Edward-
02-24-2002, 03:08 PM
When Karl from KDAWebservices setup my nameservers which are .co.uk he didnt have any problems ...

sam.moses
02-24-2002, 10:26 PM
Personally,
I'd go with a .biz name
Here's why:
1. It's a much newer system. Changes take effect more quickly. 15 minutes, as apposed to three days for a .com
2. Most businesses already have .com which means your customers may or may not pay attention to it. A .biz will stand out a little more because it's new, and fewer people have seen them on as regular a basis as other extensions. But that may not be what you want.

Just my two cents.
Cheers
Sam

Incognito
02-24-2002, 10:44 PM
People still type.com first. The time will come when they no longer do, but .com is most accepted, followed by .net. That said, there are circumstances where .info or .biz work very well. For instance, if I was looking for a name to attract resellers, I might well like webhost.biz. But, there are still many excellent .com choices and if you look through deleted domains, you will find new attractive names every day. I looked through a list today of recently deleted and found a couple of hundred I would like to have....

GordonH
02-25-2002, 05:24 AM
Hello
Just out of interest 90% of domain names we sell in the US are .com ones.

This may change when .US becomes available in April but the overhype of .info and .biz does not lead me to think that .us will be any more spectacular.


Gordon

markymark
02-26-2002, 11:09 AM
Okay, totally different perspective. If you want to sell your services to the UK, you should use .co.uk as your primary domain name, else you will not appear in the default search option at Lycos UK or AltaVista UK, nor will you be in the UK search options at AOL, Google, HotBot, or any other search engine that gives a UK search option, as these all (with the exception of Google) filter out .com sites.

Buy both, use the .co.uk.

GordonH
02-26-2002, 11:15 AM
Hello
Here is another idea:

Why not have one name server on a .com domain and one on a .co.uk so that if one registry was to have a disaster, or you forgot the domain renewal you would not have all your domains going down.
Its a small point, but worth thinking about as I know of one hosting company who renewed at Netsol only to find they had not added the years to the domain and it expired 6 months later.
It took a few days to sort out and get the domains back up.

Gordon

Paul-UKWSD
02-26-2002, 06:57 PM
We use ukwebsolutionsdirect.com / .co.uk / .net

They all go to the same site but the the nameservers are setup of the .net domain.

sam.moses
02-27-2002, 01:15 AM
Right on,
You're right. People do type .com first.
But most users these days come from search engines and other advertising efforts you put out there. (Personally, I've gotten the best results from targeted print ads.)

Granted, even with a .net domain name, you risk users not typing your domain name randomly, but being that random traffic seldom generates a sale, I wonder how valuable it was to begin with. In fact, I could take it even further and say that random traffic could pose a bandwidth issue if your sales don’t march up, but lets not get into that.

I agree on the over hype issue on the .biz thing. I got sick of looking at the ads. But the propagation on those things time wise beats anything on any other extension I've seen, including .info.

I think, that if faced with the prospect of three to six days of down time (or changes not being applied) vs. five to ten minutes on a nameserver for propagation, the choice seems clear. It's just better technology.

With the UK thing:
I've had sites listed in lycos.co.uk before that were not in the .co.uk extension group. I believe that there is a specific Meta tag that you can use to alert the search engines to what country you are coming from. It's been awhile, but I don't think things would change that drastically in a year and a half. It also helps to mention the country you are targeting in your web page, as spider engines are still quite prevalent.

Don't take me too seriously.
I've only been doing this for five years.

Cheers,
Sam

GordonH
02-27-2002, 07:12 AM
In fact, I could take it even further and say that random traffic could pose a bandwidth issue if your sales don’t march up, but lets not get into that.

Just be glad you don't own domain.com or yourdomain.com
Think of all those test scripts and examples that use those domains.
They must get lots of accidental hits caused by this.

One of our customers has a domain which is the initials of an organisation which is also a sequence on the keyboard and he gets loads of spam due to people typing in random sequences as e-mail addresses on FFA sites !

Gordon

sam.moses
02-27-2002, 07:24 PM
Very true!
One of the biggest headeaches I've had has been with my domain name darksideinc.com which I've owned for nearly four years. In the begining, it was a viable domain name (for my purposes) , but at some point the term "darksideinc" became a generic term meaning "I have lots of free warez, come send me dozens of stupid e-mails!" lol, and it was only a single web page at the time with no graphics, but it was using up 6gigs of data transfer. It got to the point where I had to shup down the site, but no luck. It would still recieve dozens of e-mails if I had it hosted. I'm hoping the conotation (that I was not responsible for creating) will go away after awhile.

sportypants
03-01-2002, 06:53 AM
http://www.123-reg.co.uk I transferred my domain here and modified the DNS and included my nameservers and IP addresses supplied by MCH, next thing I new all was fine. If you have any problems PM me and I'll talk you through it, basically if you have a uk business, use .co.uk many more .co.uk names are available as most of the .com's are taken (the good ones anyway).

If you have a domain like 'retromatehosting' lets be honest whos gonna type .com after a name like that, you'd be lucky if they can even spell it!

Go .co.uk it's allot cheaper and looks allot more patriotic when promoting your hosting business in the UK.

sam.moses
03-02-2002, 01:08 AM
interesting.
How long ? does it take UK domains to propegate these days

bhalsted
03-02-2002, 01:18 AM
Why not get both? Domains are not that expensive any more, and after a year of looking at stats you can make an educated decision of which one to drop, or keep both!

Cheers,

astralexis
03-02-2002, 04:36 AM
Originally posted by sam.moses
Personally,
I'd go with a .biz name
Here's why:
1. It's a much newer system. Changes take effect more quickly. 15 minutes, as apposed to three days for a .com
2. Most businesses already have .com which means your customers may or may not pay attention to it. A .biz will stand out a little more because it's new, and fewer people have seen them on as regular a basis as other extensions. But that may not be what you want.

Just my two cents.
Cheers
Sam
.biz is crap
I say forget about .biz
it sounds like... russian mafia :D
Rather get both, .com AND .co.uk!!!!!!

GordonH
03-02-2002, 05:14 AM
Or better still run two brands.........

Thats what we do.
The .co.uk brand has billing in pounds and servers in London
The .com brand has billing in dollars and servers in the US
The .ca brand has billing in Canadian dollars and servers in Canada.


Gordon