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View Full Version : Host Bashing
serve-you 02-22-2002, 08:00 PM Can we do something about all of this host bashing that has been going on recently. I mean, I'm all for providing people with good information and experiences (good or bad) with a host, but people seem to use that as an excuse to just talk crap about hosts, especially when it's another host making the comments. These threads should not be allowed to go on for pages, so that the same people who responded to yesterdays post about the same host, can get in on the action again today.
You really get a negative vibe when you click on a forum link and see a bunch of posts stating "this is the worst host ever".
-Dan
DigitalXWeb 02-22-2002, 10:58 PM I agree with you Dan.
I really enjoyed the one posted earlier this week in regards to RackSpace.. I checked out the guys site and he even had a anti-rackspace logo plastered all over his site, not too mention a list of virtual hosted sites on one of his servers which contained over 96% porn and other illegal content. My guess is he was probably booted off of Rackspace without refund due to his content and breaking their TOS policy. So in turn he goes and tries to ruin their rep..
The best part of his post was he claimed to host with them for 12 months before leaving, kind of ironic considering his domain name was only registered back in April 2001.
Remember reading this one??
serve-you 02-22-2002, 11:37 PM I usually don't read what people are saying in those threads, for just that reason.
And stop following me damnit! :stickout
-Dan
yes, host bashing is bad - but as long as their is competition - people will bash others business ..
serve-you 02-23-2002, 12:47 AM Of course this is true. However, I would think it would be the goal here to try and contain it, rather than let threads go on and on allowing people to belittle each other.
-Dan
Chicken 02-23-2002, 11:26 AM Can you do me a favor and report any thread you catch early that is like this? Sometimes threads that were only a few posts long when I read them (make the rounds), end up being 5 pages the next time I see them.
I'm not sure that will solve what you are talking about (that Rackspace thread doesn't sound familiar), but I've also been busy this week and have missed most of the discussions lately.
DigitalXWeb 02-23-2002, 01:25 PM Originally posted by Chicken
Can you do me a favor and report any thread you catch early that is like this? Sometimes threads that were only a few posts long when I read them (make the rounds), end up being 5 pages the next time I see them.
I'm not sure that will solve what you are talking about (that Rackspace thread doesn't sound familiar), but I've also been busy this week and have missed most of the discussions lately.
Sure thing Chicken...
Dan - Sorry I will try not to follow you ;)
GWDGuy 02-27-2002, 07:17 AM I disagree I think we should bash some hosts..
Well only if they are filled with yummy candy and little toys..
:smash:
Sorry guys it has been a long few days.
:D
Robert
cabalstudios 02-27-2002, 01:55 PM host bashing is ok, if a customer or client is doing it but...
when competitors are at it, it makes me mad :angry: .... they should be banned for 24 hours, then next time they wont do it :smash:
GWDGuy 02-27-2002, 02:01 PM That is a no-no I hate that too!!!
People will never learn that trying to bring everyone down to their level is never as good as bringing themself up to the level of those who they were bashing
Have a good day :D
serve-you 02-27-2002, 02:13 PM Originally posted by cabalstudios
host bashing is ok, if a customer or client is doing it but...
when competitors are at it, it makes me mad :angry: .... they should be banned for 24 hours, then next time they wont do it :smash:
Bashing is not okay period. A client can say that thy had a bad experience with a host, but there is no need for them to "bash" the host. Meaning say Bob is looking for a domain. Bob asks the question "what does everyone think of this host?" A bunch of people reply that they had no complaint's with them, etc. Joe replies "They suck! They are the worst host ever! don't go with them!" Without anything to backup that statment, Joe is simply bashing the host. However if Joe says "They suck. I had a domain with them for 3 months, and on average it took them 7 days to respond to my support requests. Their network was down more than it was up. I would recommend looking elsewhere." This is helpful advise. Most likely others will have had similar experience and will corroborate Joe's post. Other people my respond stating the opposite.
I don't think there's anything that can be done about the one time poster's who come in simply to bash a host, but it should not be tolorated by regular members of this forum, hosts or clients. I think a temporary ban would be an acceptable measure for hosts. Unless they have firsthand knowledge of the host's practices. In which case they are no longer replying as a host, but as a client. However with clients, it's a bit touchy. There's an awefully thin line between bashing and opinions.
-Dan
cabalstudios 02-27-2002, 02:22 PM Originally posted by serve-you
Bashing is not okay period. A client can say that thy had a bad experience with a host, but there is no need for them to "bash" the host. Meaning say Bob is looking for a domain. Bob asks the question "what does everyone think of this host?" A bunch of people reply that they had no complaint's with them, etc. Joe replies "They suck! They are the worst host ever! don't go with them!" Without anything to backup that statment, Joe is simply bashing the host. However if Joe says "They suck. I had a domain with them for 3 months, and on average it took them 7 days to respond to my support requests. Their network was down more than it was up. I would recommend looking elsewhere." This is helpful advise. Most likely others will have had similar experience and will corroborate Joe's post. Other people my respond stating the opposite.
I don't think there's anything that can be done about the one time poster's who come in simply to bash a host, but it should not be tolorated by regular members of this forum, hosts or clients. I think a temporary ban would be an acceptable measure for hosts. Unless they have firsthand knowledge of the host's practices. In which case they are no longer replying as a host, but as a client. However with clients, it's a bit touchy. There's an awefully thin line between bashing and opinions.
-Dan
Valid point, bashers should provide a statement to prove the bash :D
SoftWareRevue 02-27-2002, 02:26 PM Originally posted by cabalstudios
Valid point, bashers should provide a statement to prove the bash :D Then by serve-you's definition it is "helpful advise." Should you need to prove helpful advise?
cabalstudios 02-27-2002, 02:32 PM Joe replies "They suck! They are the worst host ever! don't go with them!" Without anything to backup that statment, Joe is simply bashing the host.
the above would require something to backup the statement, thats what I meant about proving ........ :stickout
helpfull advise dont need no proof ;)
cyansmoker 02-27-2002, 05:52 PM Originally posted by Chicken
Can you do me a favor and report any thread you catch early that is like this? Sometimes threads that were only a few posts long when I read them (make the rounds), end up being 5 pages the next time I see them.
I'm not sure that will solve what you are talking about (that Rackspace thread doesn't sound familiar), but I've also been busy this week and have missed most of the discussions lately.
Sometimes it goes so fast that there's not even enough time for you to do something about it.
I remember sending you an email about a couple threads a week ago and a flame war was started about 30 mns later...you would have to be connected 24hrs a day to be able to take care of that! :(
Chicken 02-27-2002, 09:30 PM Heh, yeah it isn't always possible. I take the reports before I even venture out into the great unknown postings, so those are taken care of pretty quick (usually). Otherwise, we just have to be at the right place at the right time to catch things. In general, I don't think you'll find much spam or problems past 24 hours (maybe even 0-6), so it is pretty clean.
Re: Host bashing...
I think it is reasonable for people to have questions/comments about an offer. If you are a competitor however, you should limit those comments to something positive. Often the line between competitor and potential customer is blurred a bit as hosts here buy services from other hosts/providers (something some people sometimes miss). There are some hosts here who are less a competitor, and more a client (or potential client).
If you are actually looking to buy something, then we try to leave your questions/comments alone. If you are just posting to start doodie, then this is the problem. We just ask that you respect eachother and if someone makes a typo or you (as a competitor) have a question, you PM it, instead of making a huge deal about it publicly. I suppose, Do unto others as you'd like done to yourself, sums it up.
bobcares 03-02-2002, 03:37 PM Hi!
I shouldn't be saying this...
constructive bashing is good...
I'd put it this way. When we were bashed a few days ago, we did not even know about it as we were busy...
Now what happened as a result of it was we decided to make our marketing team better too... i.e. have faster responses and personally I took a computer at home and now access it from there too ... (till some time back my opinion was home and work are two things which should not be mixed.) Now i atleast check my mail every hour....
Now when this is somethings which we could do to improve our service.
I guess bashing taken in the right sense is good..
The only thing is people must not go out and destroy a persons name without any major reason..... Just plain bashing for the sake of it is not good...
Have a great day :)
Regards
Amar
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