If anyone can explain this then kool if not then hey.

I left a domain name to expire a few days ago with 1and1.co.uk
My account is locked because my card has just recently expired - i can log in but am restricted from certain areas until a valid card is entered (im waiting for a new one). Thats not the problem though.

What IS confusing me is that the domain name ive left to expire comes up as renewed for another year in the 'who is' databases, even in the Registrar.Schlund.info 'who is' database which 1and1 specificly uses to record domain names registered with them.

1and1 have a 30day redemption (holding) period on expired domians in case a registrant wants it back (OH by the way its costs $80 to get your domain back! if you ever needed a reason not to F up!!!) Their help menu suggested one should search the Registrar.Schlund.info database to view the status of a domain - whether it was in redemption or not. Curious i did so expecting to find the status as 'expired' or 'in redemption'. Well no, i was bemused to find it had been recorded as renewed for another year!? Huh!?

An expired card yet a domain automatically renewed?
Im still fairly new to all this so is this a widespread registrar catchment method?

I've checked other 'who is' records and yes i am still the registrar for another year. If anyone can explain this please do.

Perhaps 1and1 automatically renews and bills during their next bulk billing cycle? perhaps thats when the system will re-adjust and realise. I do not wish to renew this domain name so when i do re-enter a new credit card i'll not be too pleased to see me automatically billed for another year. Hmm....

Hello,

A lot of the times the processors who use recurring charges will still let the companies do it on an expired card. American Express would even come back and tell you what the new card # / exp date is as well ..

:beer:

Richard

When a domain expires, it is auto-renewed by the registry, and the registrar then has 45 days to delete it. 1and1 may try to get payment for 45 days then delete the domain for a refund. I'm not sure how they work, I have never registered a domain with them.

Is the expiration date reported by the registry whois the same as the one reported by whois.schlund.info?

Originally posted by ajaspers
When a domain expires, it is auto-renewed by the registry, and the registrar then has 45 days to delete it.

This is true, this is why some of the smaller registrars have a very limited grace period(it eats up cash reserves)

Hi

A lot of the times the processors who use recurring charges will still let the companies do it on an expired card. American Express would even come back and tell you what the new card # / exp date is as well ..

wow...and this is legal!?


Is the expiration date reported by the registry whois the same as the one reported by whois.schlund.info?

Yes it is, ive checked numerous 'who is' services just to make sure the record details arent exclusive to whois.schlund.info.

I hear what your saying pal, what confuses me is if 1and1 have a 30day redemption period and users are specificly adviced to check the whois.schlund.info for a status check, then in my case the expired domain name should say 'redemption period' or similar in the status field.

I have checked an active domain registered with 1and1 just to see if the status field says something different, but no all details/status are the same.

Surely in aligning with their daylight robbing policy it should say 'redemption period'. 1and1 wouldnt you rather have that $80?

Originally posted by rbayless
Hello,

A lot of the times the processors who use recurring charges will still let the companies do it on an expired card. American Express would even come back and tell you what the new card # / exp date is as well ..

:beer:

Richard Very True. Few days back enom auto-renewed by domain name using my expired Amex card. Even
without my knowledge they have updated my expired card info with the new card. :angry:

Originally posted by ajaspers
When a domain expires, it is auto-renewed by the registry, and the registrar then has 45 days to delete it.

At the very least, that applies to the gTLD registries. Not sure if
the ccTLD registries do it, though, probably case to case.

Neticus, what's the extension of the domain that got renewed? Is
it com, net, co.uk?

Originally posted by Neticus
wow...and this is legal!?

Apparently.. :) It is very much a convience feature for the business and the consumer. Think if you had hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions of customers who are setup with recurring charges. Getting them to update their card information everytime it expires is a nightmare.

:beer:

Richard

Hi

Neticus, what's the extension of the domain that got renewed?

Tis' a .com ext...


Think if you had hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands, even millions of customers who are setup with recurring charges. Getting them to update their card information everytime it expires is a nightmare.

True blue...hmm perhaps it sez that somewhere in the T&C ( although i doubt it) I wonder if your able to set up card prefrences with card companies, 'say if so and so calls would you mind not faxing them card details of cards i havent ordered yet!? sheez! Psychic Credit Cards! yeh, just help yourselves!