Are their just too much hosting companies?

What do you think?

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Are their just too much hosting companies?

Are their just too *many* hosting companies?

Originally posted by UmBillyCord


Are their just too *many* hosting companies?

Are *there* just too *many* hosting companies?

Yes

I do find, however, that many people have trouble finding *good* hosting companies.

Too many companies could never hurt the consumer.

I love to see a lot of competition.

Are *there* just too *many* hosting companies?

:)

There are not too many hosting companies.
There are too many poorly managed hosting companies.

And as JG said (sort of); competition is a good thing. It's good for the consumer. And it makes the industry work harder to improve their productivity.


*Runs to get spell checker





:D

When you start seeing hosts offering hosting at $15-$25/yr then you know the answer is yes.

Well anyhow, it's just the normal cycle in business.

Just like the dot com bubble. The web hosting bubble is bound to pop sometime in the future. Will we be ready for it? :cartman:

Those who are not will end up like all the over hyped/valued .coms that vanished into oblivion last year.

Listen for the pop...when you hear it ....run...run like the wind

:stickout

Just see the "flamehost" thread. It says it all.

There are possibly too many.....
but I think the biggest problem is that there are too many that are run by kids......even a 10 year old can start up a hosting business these days........and as pcsteve said, the bubble will soon burst...........but those that are in it for the right reasons will pull through.....

There are too many crapp web hosts out there. It seems like every high school student is starting his own host, with crappy support, crappy uptime and probably based off of a crappy Fasthosts or DonHost reseller program. And of course they don't even have a business plan, don't pay taxes, and go bust after a couple of months when they realize that hosting isn't just a matter of getting a DonHost reseller account, putting up the cheapest prices in the industry, and hoping for the best. That's just no way to run a business, but unfortunately a lot of people do. And unfortunately, it's both the customers and honest web hosts who run their business properly and care for their customers who tend to lose out.

avara

You said it the best! ! !

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UmBillyCord

You have serious problems; I hope people always point out your mistakes. That’s not cool at all. I'm sure people understand what I am saying but you just wanted to be stupid.

:stickout

Originally posted by bahres
avara

You said it the best! ! !

&

UmBillyCord

You have serious problems; I hope people always point out your mistakes. That’s not cool at all. I'm sure people understand what I am saying but you just wanted to be stupid.

:stickout What?? :eek:

:cartman:Eye stand undur dont yue.

bahres, you should start a poll on this. :stickout


Originally posted by bahres
avara

You said it the best! ! !

&

UmBillyCord

You have serious problems; I hope people always point out your mistakes. That’s not cool at all. I'm sure people understand what I am saying but you just wanted to be stupid.

:stickout

Let it goooooooooooooooo


:D

Originally posted by JG
Too many companies could never hurt the consumer.

I love to see a lot of competition.

I would have to disagree. To many companies drives prices down so low that the companies can't afford to offer a good service, so in an effort to compete they start cutting corners. Buying cheap bandwidth, offering crappy support, etc until you end up with the problem we have today. Customers can't find a good host because you have so many companies trying to compete. With less hosts yes the prices are higher but the customer doesn't have to sift through 50 hosts before finding a good one. Competition is a good thing but as in all things it is only good in moderation. At least this is MHO.

Michael

I believe there is enough business out there for everyone. However, it's the kind of business that varies. The poormouths and dilletantes will find the cutthroat hosts and continually jump around in the hope of saving a dime here, a nickel there. Those who are serious about their online endeavors will find solid, professional services at realistic rates. Like most other markets, the hosting market sees wide swings in dollar/value or price/perfomance ratios.

But to answer the question, there will always be a certain number of hosting companies coming and going. It doesn't matter how many hosting companies there are because only the top few will ever show up on the radar screen.

Before casting my vote, can someone explain the difference between a NO and NOT EOUGH NEED MORE vote? They seem to be the same thing.

Originally posted by uuallan
Before casting my vote, can someone explain the difference between a NO and NOT EOUGH NEED MORE vote? They seem to be the same thing.

No is saying that there are enough as it is, not too many.

Not enough need more, is saying just that. There aren't enough right now and should be more.

i think there are a lot of hosts, but only a few good ones as others have stated.

Hi,

Tough Competition has its advantages and disadvantages for both web hosts as well as customers.

As for webhosts as mentioned before in this thread, they do start cutting corners, less manpower, or support to keep up with the competition and increase their low profits margin.
But at the same time they do get lots of customers how do want to get hosted for less. Hence more customers.. ( I guess)
Plus hosts do find from time time to time customers who just want to hop from one host to another due to ongoing promotions or trial periods, which now a days are so common among web hosts. Thus a disadvantage to web hosts

As for customers, though competion do gives them low cost hosting, below than the average hosting price. But at the same time gives them more options to who to choose and is I think very time consuming or shall I say confusing, as most hosts tend to offer the same features or similar prices.


Just my thoughts

Rupi

Originally posted by Relyc

No is saying that there are enough as it is, not too many.

Not enough need more, is saying just that. There aren't enough right now and should be more.

But if you think there are not too many, then wouldn't that automatically imply that there should be more, or am I overthinking this :D?

Originally posted by eHostPros
As for webhosts as mentioned before in this thread, they do start cutting corners, less manpower, or support to keep up with the competition and increase their low profits margin.
But at the same time they do get lots of customers how do want to get hosted for less. Hence more customers..

I agree, but as someone mentioned above on the thread, a "cheap host" can have 1000 customers @ $15.00/year, while a "down to earth" host will only need 84 customers @ $15.00/month to generate the same revenue. That is 916 fewer customers that require support :D

The retail side of the hosting industry, especially in the U.S. is going through a cycle, therefore infrastructure is being utilised for lower returns and subsequent reductions is pricing is seeing greater ability for those to co-locate or lease servers.

As someone else stated, this bubble will burst and the cycle will end with increased growth occuring beyond the levels currently. Once this occurs, prices will rise again slowly not just from demand but from utilisation being higher and decisions by infrastructure companies to change models from utilisation at lower return to increased returns for shareholders, given a better economic and climate of higher growth.

I don't think that there are too many hosts myself, given the amount of people around the world that move from just web surfing to having their own website. Do however see the concerns that the customer has increased choices yet just as many risks, which is the most important part of all this.

To many companies drives prices down so low !!!

Thats a problem ! ! !

:angry:

Originally posted by bahres
To many companies drives prices down so low !!!

Thats a problem ! ! !

:angry:

hehe. I agree completely. It drives everyone crazy. Some of them can't even make a decent profit and will more than likely go out of business. It is just a matter of time.

Originally posted by bahres
To many companies drives prices down so low !!!

Thats a problem ! ! !

:angry:

Is it really a problem? I think the super-low-price hosts attract more people into the market who otherwise would not venture in because of cost. I see them as "entry level" hosts and I don't believe they necessarily pull customers down from the higher-priced hosts. People who have a serious mission on the Web are willing to invest in themselves and seek quality service through a good provider. The rest will hop around from one $2/year host to the next wondering what the hell's wrong with the industry. The super-cheap companies make the good ones look even better, if you ask me.

There arent too many hosting companies.

Nearly 100% of all business could use a website.

It takes infrastructure and people to make this possible.

The actual percentages of businesses that have website are low.

The demand is high.

You just need to know how to find your customers.

Neofree

Originally posted by neofree
There arent too many hosting companies.

Nearly 100% of all business could use a website.

It takes infrastructure and people to make this possible.

The actual percentages of businesses that have website are low.

The demand is high.

You just need to know how to find your customers.

Agreed.

However, there are too many fly by night web hosting companies.

Every city should have 2-3 web hosting companies, I think. There are a lot of cities.

I hate having to compete with hosting companies who offer allot of stuff for nothing just to get customers and make them hate the market as a whole ! ! ! !

Because it causes my prices to slide down as well

:angry:

Definately true. Too many crappy hosts. Problem is, it's too easy of a business to start. Starting a host can be cheaper then starting an online store. Heck it can be done for under $200 if you become a reseller.

Because of this, we need to work harder to get our customers. I think that is what is needed, not lowering prices. (Unless you are too expensive compared to the big guys.)

Advertising plan must be aggressive. Make them feel comfortable with your plans.

Neofree

michaeln - I agree with you

Also

Too many host companies could never hurt the consumer but It would hurt the company when they realize its not worth it.



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The market can only get bigger from here (my POV) because so many businesses have been venturing online. My local sterling silver retailer has been talking to me about venturing to sell online as well :)

And as one can see, most of these busiesses have NO idea about how to setup their ecommerce sites and such, and in the end, it is really the hosting companies that offer solid support, great uptime and reasonable pricing (yes, up to US$40 is fine for a good, I repeat, good, ecommerce hosting service) that are able to cater to this growing section of the market, thereby empowering what we call "real" clients.

Entry-level hosting at a few bucks a month is decent in a way - they cater to the younger hosting customers such as me :D Nope, I'm paying close to $10 a month if that's the question. I don't want to do a whole lot of host-hopping! If you'll run a search on the internet, you'll notice that more and more teenagers like me are applying for domain names, and since most free hosts don't offer domain name hosting, we turn to these entry-level hosts for our small hosting needs. After all, most of us host fansites, online diaries and the likes - not things that consume huge server resources and all that.

Just my 2-cents ;)