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cavalry 01-30-2005, 12:07 PM I just found an article which is very interesting, we can sell our chargebacks and insufficient funds (for checks) to a buying chargebacks and NSF checks company..? :D
But I think this is only good for the US merchants?
Anyway, I think this is cool! :cool: Check it out now:
http://www.small-business-forum.com/articles/52.html
Lebanon 01-30-2005, 12:14 PM its been a while i havent been here , and i come back to find you still posting and still an ecommerce addict !
I read that article btw a while ago , and couldnt really understand how do they get the money back ! Sounds good idea for those who have charge backs anyway and nothing they loose to try !
cavalry 01-30-2005, 12:24 PM Originally posted by Lebanon
its been a while i havent been here , and i come back to find you still posting and still an ecommerce addict !
Nice to "see" you again, Lebanon. No choice, I am making a basic living from my e-commerce! And that is my only income..!! :)
Originally posted by Lebanon
I read that article btw a while ago , and couldnt really understand how do they get the money back ! Sounds good idea for those who have charge backs anyway and nothing they loose to try !
If I am not mistaken, that is for American merchants only..;)
S-Comm 01-30-2005, 12:27 PM There's a better solution for non american merchants: Prevent charge backs :)
cavalry 01-30-2005, 12:33 PM I think we can only minimize the chragebacks, but cannot prevent them..!
Corey Bryant 01-30-2005, 12:37 PM Thanks cavalry! I am very happy you like it!
Actually - it is for U.S. consumers. So if you are a merchant in the UK or anywhere, but your consumer is in the United States - CRB company (no affiliation) can help. They can sometimes help in other parts of the world, but just like merchant and MAPs, consumers are also very different.
S-Comm 01-30-2005, 12:41 PM Yes, you can reduce them very much.
1. Collecting some information about customers, monitoring orders very carefully to prevent fraud.
2. Delivering what you are offering. So your customers won't be disappointed with your products/services and won't return it. A good friendly relation between you & your clients is needed.
3. the merchant should always ask the vendor before issuing a charge back. and should direct the customer asking for a charge back to the vendor "you".
There's still chance for chargebacks, but not a lot.
cavalry 01-30-2005, 12:59 PM Originally posted by coreybryant
Thanks cavalry! I am very happy you like it!
Actually - it is for U.S. consumers. So if you are a merchant in the UK or anywhere, but your consumer is in the United States - CRB company (no affiliation) can help. They can sometimes help in other parts of the world, but just like merchant and MAPs, consumers are also very different.
Thanks for clarifying this, Corey,
I can tell e-commerce is part of buying life styles in the US today.
Look at my customer countries of origin:
70% of my customers are from the US.
10% from the UK
10% from Europe
5% from Australia
5% from the rest of countries
ha..ha...:emlaugh:
Corey Bryant 01-30-2005, 01:48 PM So you have a pretty large base in the United States, it seems. It won't work from some cases (fraud) - but this can be great for those who install scripts, sell scripts / electronic downloads as well
cavalry 01-30-2005, 02:28 PM Americans are more willing to try new things.
trinitron 01-30-2005, 04:03 PM It would be nice if that was possible for the rest of the world too.
cavalry 02-19-2005, 02:04 AM Any other feedback on this..?
trinitron 02-19-2005, 03:19 AM Originally posted by cavalry
I just found an article which is very interesting, we can sell our chargebacks and insufficient funds (for checks) to a buying chargebacks and NSF checks company..? :D
But I think this is only good for the US merchants?
Anyway, I think this is cool! :cool: Check it out now:
http://www.small-business-forum.com/articles/52.html
Has anyone tried this service ?
Corey Bryant 02-19-2005, 11:48 AM Their main bread and butter are accounts from adult processors. Adult websits are always on top of things when it comes to processing and technology.
I spoke with Ron last week and he said he had not received a few questions. The main thing is - you have to update your TOS first. Otherwise, it is not profitable for anyone.
cdgcommerce 02-19-2005, 01:03 PM One thing to be very careful on is the exact wording of the TOS/AUP... one way of wording it could make it in violation of Visa/MC rules regarding imposing restrictions on a cardholders ability to charge back a sale or imposing a penalty for doing so.
The other way would allow a merchant to successful pursue a client for a balance owed.
Naturally, the key benefit presented by a collections agency is the threat of creating a blemish on a customer's credit report which can induce them to go ahead and pay up instead of continuing to fight the issue.
This is definitely an interesting concept and it would be great to see how it has worked out for some merchants using it. Any first hand experiences would be great to hear about!
Corey Bryant 02-19-2005, 01:11 PM I'll try to get a few people that are using their services. They are on other boards that "specialize" in other areas of the internet - I guess you would say. We have signed up with them but since we screen our hosting clients and people who buy our scripts with a fine tooth comb right now - no chargebacks :)
cdgcommerce 02-19-2005, 01:13 PM Ah, the "specialty" types. ;)
But yes - it would be very interesting to see how that one company mentioned in the articles does in terms of buying back chargebacks from companies. It is an interesting concept for sure!
cavalry 05-21-2005, 09:50 AM Just curious has anybody tried to sell their chargebacks to CRB Company yet? Any feedback?
Corey Bryant 05-21-2005, 12:22 PM There was a lengthy discussion actually about this on another forum. A lot of people agreed that it was something that should be done since services were provided. Some though did not want to get a "reputation" of trying to get their money for sold services.
I spoke with Ron about two weeks ago and he said that some people have come to him, asked questions. It is a very sticky situation - and I really did not think that merchants might not want to get paid. I thought we were all in the business to make money.
Petertje 05-23-2005, 03:09 AM Indeed a very interesting concept as long as Visa and MC rules are adhered to.
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