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sailor 02-20-2002, 10:59 PM These are the current amazing offers.
Dedicated Server 1
P3 1Ghz
256MB
40GB
300GB Multi Homed
APC MasterSwitch
$139
0 Install
Dedicated Server 2
AMD XP1700
256MB 40GB
300GB Multi Homed
APC MasterSwitch
$139
139 install
Dedicated Server 3
P3 1Ghz
256MB 40GB
300GB Multi Homed
APC MasterSwitch
$99 Monthly
$275 install
Dedicated Server 4
AMD XP1700
256MB
40GB
300GB Multi Homed
APC MasterSwitch
$99 monthly
$414 install
Bandwidth is over a gig aggregate - currently aleron and cogent. class 1 data center that we own
24x7 support and on site - real live person answering calls.
Extranet for your issues and private exchange and secure mrtg viewing
Fully redundant systems
100% uptime sla
This is not the standard cheap offering from some ofthegroups doing things on a shoestring that you will get burned with - this is top quality.
We accept visa / mc / amex / paypal
auto signup at www.tranxactglobal.com/servers.html
AcuNett 02-21-2002, 12:03 AM How much with 1024 ram? (Like the CPUs alot, but too less RAM for me :( )
BTW is this a new company? Your site has some errors on it, such as "Memroy" instead of "Memory" ;).
Dedicated Server 1 has the exact same specs as Dedicated Service 3, likewise 2 and 4, but they are all differently priced.
Is there any difference?
sailor 02-21-2002, 12:11 AM we are 3.5 years old and are very professional - not leasing space from someone else and constantly moving peoples servers from place to place.
upgrade to 1 gig from 256 is on time charge of 200 or additional 29 per month.
site just got refreshed today - oops on spelling - will fix
MarcD 02-21-2002, 12:19 AM is this a limited time only ?
if so how long do i have
i would love to get one of these
but will have to wait for a bit
until i finish up with my other ventures
sailor 02-21-2002, 12:22 AM No plans to change it - I am sure the machines wil get faster over time - but no - it is not a "limited time offer"
MCHost-Marc 02-21-2002, 12:23 AM Could you have 3-5 machines up by tonight or tomorrow?
sailor 02-21-2002, 12:43 AM yes - tomorrow for sure - maybe a couple tonight.
i have 2-3 XP's left - the rest are PIII
Whoda_H 02-21-2002, 03:20 AM sailor nice deal, a few quick questions.
1) How much to upgrade to 512 MB RAM? (old thread it was $75 is this still current?)
2) IPs: How many? How much for more if they aren't free? (old thread 5, $1 additional is this still current?)
3) On your site Dedicated Server 2 has an install cost of $139 but here it doesn't. Which is correct?
4) Is there a minimum contract time on any these offers and if so how long (I would assume the ones with no setup would carry one)?
5) Do you have any pictures of the facility?
6) IP for traceroute?
Thanks
panopticon 02-21-2002, 03:25 AM I would also very much like to see some pictures of your NOC.
After asking almost every question and being very impressed with your answers and your attitude, I'm about ready to order. I'm pretty sure some pictures would push me over the edge :D
Dedicated 1 = Dedicated 3
Dedicated 2 = Dedicated 4
So, why different monthly fees and startup fees? :confused:
diederik 02-21-2002, 07:49 AM Dedicated 1 = Dedicated 3
Dedicated 2 = Dedicated 4
So, why different monthly fees and startup fees?
Some people don't want to pay setup fees, so there's the same server, without a setup fee, but a higher monthly price.
Some people prefer a cheaper dedicated server & don't mind paying a setup-fee ( cheaper if you're gonna take the dedicated server for a longer period ).
I think that's the reason :cool:
R Doherty 02-21-2002, 08:05 AM Do these servers have CPanel/WHM or alike installed?
sailor 02-21-2002, 11:08 AM we can isntall any managment interface - there are servers in the noc running plesk - cpanel - webmin and hsphere currently.
IP to trace - www.tranxactglobal.com
will have some pictures tonight -
ips are free now based on justification
yes - memory and hd upgrades are still that price
no plans to change pricing
we are down to 5 servers left until we get some more in - better hurry
all contracts are month to month
nothing to sign
BeCoMe1 02-21-2002, 12:47 PM How is the hardware you are using? Can we have a detailed specification?
Originally posted by sailor
ips are free now based on justification
Hi Sailor,
So no more $1/month charge per-extra IP? If so, that'd be great!
panopticon 02-21-2002, 05:03 PM Excellent. Some pictures will be great!
MCHost-Marc 02-21-2002, 05:12 PM I just sent you an email. Please contact me at marc@mchost.com asap.
sailor 02-21-2002, 10:08 PM if you have any more questions I am here.
panopticon 02-21-2002, 11:10 PM I take it you'll reply to this thread when you have some pictures posted?
sailor 02-22-2002, 03:33 AM I should have some up over the weekend - maybe even a roving webcam or our security system online to the outside.
panopticon 02-22-2002, 03:43 AM Excellent. I'll be checking back a few times a day to see when you have some pictures posted. Somehow seeing your operation will give me the confidence to go forward with my first dedicated server. Not that I don't believe everything you've said, but somehow seeing it will make it more concrete for me. Can't wait to see some pictures.
BTW, you really should update the "Trouble Tickets" and "Manage Your Web pages" on your site - those pages would make me move on and not sign up if I had only visited your site without reading your threads in this forum also. "Coming soon" or "this page under constructin" pages are a turn off, especially with a host or service provider since it makes you think that they might be slow to act or not follow through... just thought I should share my impression, since I'm much more impressed with you and with your excellent replies and responsiveness here than with your web sites right now.
mpkapadia 02-22-2002, 04:51 AM Sailor,
1) What will be cost to have Cp/WHM on the servers
2) What would be cost to have Plesk on the servers
3) Do you provide Win2k Based server, if yes is cost same
Regards,
MCHost-Marc 02-22-2002, 04:58 AM I just wanted to thank sailor and his team at DV2.net for the excellent support and servers you got up for us today. We were in need of 2 servers immediately, got replies from their sales departement within 15 minutes max. and 2 questions to the support within 10 mins. Both machines were built and went online within 4 hours and both speed and performance are great :)
diederik 02-22-2002, 06:34 AM Hmm many nice things about this host :cool:
I might order one or two aswell :D :D :D :D
BeCoMe1 02-22-2002, 06:46 AM Originally posted by Kiwi
I just wanted to thank sailor and his team at DV2.net for the excellent support and servers you got up for us today. We were in need of 2 servers immediately, got replies from their sales departement within 15 minutes max. and 2 questions to the support within 10 mins. Both machines were built and went online within 4 hours and both speed and performance are great :)
How much did the servers cost you Kiwi, did you get one for free :D
ToastyX 02-22-2002, 08:05 AM Anyone with a server willing to post a link to a large file so I can test download speeds?
HOSTCRAZY 02-22-2002, 08:23 AM How much for PLESK (unlimited) /pm or CPanel/WHM /pm??
How much is extra GB bandwidth?
How much are extra IPs?
When could you have 2 servers setup by?
??
BeCoMe1 02-22-2002, 09:22 AM Can you give me a price for this one:
Dedicated Server 3
P3 1Ghz
1 GB RAM
2*60GB 7200 rpm hd (if you dont have 2*60, then the give me 2*40GB 7200 rpm hd)
300GB Multi Homed
APC MasterSwitch
How is the hardware you are using? Can we have a detailed specification?
sailor 02-22-2002, 10:47 AM cpanel is 90 per month
plesk 30 is 159
plesk 300 is 399
plesk unlimited is 639
I have pm everyone else on individual servers -
most can be found under dedicated servers page
Ok - anyone thats want servers - we have a couple of PIII's left and 1 XP
I am ordering more today - but they will not be here until wed -thurs if you want some today- you need to order asap.
Originally posted by sailor
Ok - anyone thats want servers - we have a couple of PII's left and 1 XP
Is it PII or PIII? :)
I'm going to get a P3 1 Ghz server from you soon.
mpkapadia 02-22-2002, 01:34 PM Sailor
Do you have these deals on Win2k server,
Regards
sailor 02-22-2002, 05:29 PM I f you supply the license we can load it for you.
It is a PIII
panopticon 02-22-2002, 08:36 PM 1.) If you start out with a plesk 30 domain license for $159, can you upgrade later to the 300 domain or the unliminted license, and what would be the cost to upgrade?
2.) Are the hardware upgrade prices only good if you order them when the server is built/setup, or can you add RAM or an extra drive later for this same cost?
3.) Also since this is my first dedicated server, I'm thinking of setting up a local computer to be as close to the server as possible so I can "simulate" things first on the local box before trying anything on the server. (and to see if I want to use plesk or just use webmin). Would this just be a default "server" RedHat 7.2 installed? Are there any significant options I should be aware of when I install RH 7.2 locally to make it as close to the way it will be installed on the server?
sailor 02-22-2002, 09:28 PM yes - you can upgrade - 200 to go to 300 domain
'yes - pro install of rh7.2
prices are same to upgrade anytime
DomiNET.net 02-22-2002, 11:14 PM Any money back guarantee?
sailor 02-22-2002, 11:15 PM interesting question - why do you ask - do you want to sign up for one?
DomiNET.net 02-22-2002, 11:21 PM Maybe yes..
Thing is your offer is kind of "tgtbt"
Too good to be true!
But if u offer and provides a stable server, on a very stable network i wont cancel my order
panopticon 02-22-2002, 11:38 PM yes - pro install of rh7.2
Sorry to have a million questions, but can you elaborate a bit:
what does "pro" mean? Does this refer to options during the install?
--downloading 7.2 now for a local install tommorrow
Originally posted by sailor
'yes - pro install of rh7.2
Same with panopticon, I'm also curious what "pro install" means?
Do you install Redhat 7.2 with the latest update of kernel (2.4.17 I believe)?
And does Plesk 2.0 works on Redhat 7.2? Cause the Plesk web site says about 7.1 only.
Thanks again for your patiences :)
sailor 02-23-2002, 12:22 PM Pro version comes with all the popular binaries. PHP, apache, etc.
plesk currently runs with 7.1 and you don;t install the binaries with anyway since it has all that and would conflict.
sailor 02-23-2002, 04:24 PM Originally posted by panopticon
Excellent. I'll be checking back a few times a day to see when you have some pictures posted. Somehow seeing your operation will give me the confidence to go forward with my first dedicated server. Not that I don't believe everything you've said, but somehow seeing it will make it more concrete for me. Can't wait to see some pictures.
BTW, you really should update the "Trouble Tickets" and "Manage Your Web pages" on your site - those pages would make me move on and not sign up if I had only visited your site without reading your threads in this forum also. "Coming soon" or "this page under constructin" pages are a turn off, especially with a host or service provider since it makes you think that they might be slow to act or not follow through... just thought I should share my impression, since I'm much more impressed with you and with your excellent replies and responsiveness here than with your web sites right now.
the trouble tickets is up now.
also manage your web link is up to our corporate custtomer extranet - we are also adding user forum based on vbulleting late next week
here are your pictures
pictures:
http://www.tranxactglobal.com/images/datacenter/Mvc-001s.jpg
http://www.tranxactglobal.com/images/datacenter/set2/Mvc-001s.jpg
there are 6 pictures on each set - you can find them by substituing 1-6 for the last number in the url on each major url directory - ie
http://www.tranxactglobal.com/images/datacenter/Mvc-002s.jpg
http://www.tranxactglobal.com/images/datacenter/Mvc-003s.jpg
http://www.tranxactglobal.com/images/datacenter/set2/Mvc-001s.jpg
etc. etc.
etc
jmars 02-23-2002, 04:52 PM Originally posted by twrs
Same with panopticon, I'm also curious what "pro install" means?
Do you install Redhat 7.2 with the latest update of kernel (2.4.17 I believe)?
I know sailor already answered you, but because you guys are newbies, let me throw a few cents in. :)
7.2 is MUCH, MUCH better to use for a web server than 7.1.
x.2 releases are almost always the most refined. The next will probably be 8.x
For one thing, 7.2 already includes the ext3 journaling file system (7.1 has ext2). What the difference basically comes down to is that, should you server lose power or otherwise crash, with ext3 it'll come back up with your files intact. With 7.1, you need the linux equivalent of a scandisk... which can take a HIDEOUSLY long amount of time, and your server will be down while it does it. Further, it might not be able to fix all the problems it finds. You can lose your data, and many people do each and every day with a normal 7.1 install. At RackShack, for instance, their white boxes are 7.1 based and when a server goes down there the first recourse given by support is often to do a system re-install. Running ext2 is like driving drunk without a seatbelt in aggressive San Francisco traffic. (you can get ext3 on 7.1, though, if put enough work into it. 'winston' at RS did it. it is a little involved, and i think it requires getting someone on the console at the hosting company to complete the upgrade)
Fresh kernel? You can use up2date on your RedHat system to keep it exactly that... fresh and update to date. The kernel, all packages, everything. It's a good thing to become familiar with. Once you do, you're gonna love it. :D (do a search here for 'up2date')
And does Plesk 2.0 works on Redhat 7.2? Cause the Plesk web site says about 7.1 only.
The folks at the Plesk forum say that you can easily install the Plesk 2.0 standard package on 7.2. People seem to have more trouble doing it via the RPM system. Folks on the plesk forum will help you with it. Plesk 2.5 is said to be coming out at the end of this month, though, and it's pretty much intended for 7.2. It could be out any day now, in fact -- there's a lot of talk about it over on their site. Seems like a few people are already trying to install it. (prereleases must be available to plesk 2.0 owners)
sailor 02-23-2002, 08:23 PM jmars is absolutely right
was everyone able to get to the pictures ok?
any comments?
panopticon 02-23-2002, 08:52 PM Yes - datacenter looks very good!
Thank you very much for posting the pictures!
I'm currently looking at webmin to see if that is enough for me to manage the server with, and as soon as I can decide whether I want to go with plesk or not, I will be signing up with you.
panopticon 02-23-2002, 08:58 PM we are also adding user forum based on vbulletin late next week
Also a great idea! Since there are sometimes problems like "these users from this city say they are having difficulty accessing my site" I like the opportunity to talk with other customers in the same data center to see if we can help each other out.
I'm an absolute newbie when it comes to setting up/managing a server, but I'm pretty good at other things related to web design, etc.. I think it would be really nice to have a user forum where people can help other people out (do I have the optimal setting for this hard drive, or apache tuning, etc.) and even newbies like myself can help other newbies out, or even take a look at more advanced peoples' problems and at least offer an opinion or to look at something from a new perspective (for example I almost volunteered to thumbnail those for you and send you a thumbnail sheet matching the rest of your site :))
sailor 02-24-2002, 02:07 AM I agree with the forum - I think it will also benefit us by reducing the amount of support calls through self help on the forum.
The trouble ticket system is up now by the way and we have our corporate extranet linked into the new site as well.
Originally posted by panopticon
I'm currently looking at webmin to see if that is enough for me to manage the server with, and as soon as I can decide whether I want to go with plesk or not, I will be signing up with you.
I think we're on the same boat :D
I just finished taking a quick look at Webmin and I think it's a good choice if you just want to manage your own sites in the server. If you want to host multiple clients and want to give them a nice interface, I think you should go with Plesk.
I'm also about to get a server from Sailor soon and just want to wait for a few days until Plesk 2.5 is released cause it seems to be more Redhat 7.2 friendly :)
sailor 02-26-2002, 05:09 AM these boxes are up and running - and sold out - we have more coming in by end of week - they are definately smoking - if you want one for end of week - you will need to order now. I have 5 available for then.
sailor I pm'd you about software. can you get back to me about it please.
Thanks
greggish 02-26-2002, 09:54 AM 2 questions:
1. How much to add a second 40 gig HD?
2. You said that a 300 domain Plesk license costs $399, yet when someone asked how much it would cost to later upgrade the $159 30 domain Plesk license to a 300 domain license you quoted $200 (which would make the total cost for the 300 domain license $359...less than the $399 to start with the 300 doamin license to begin with) pricing doesn't make sense.
sailor 02-26-2002, 10:25 AM yes - I made a mistake - plesk 300 is 479. that is a 20% discount
the second hard drive is 125
greggish 02-26-2002, 11:07 AM Thanks for the quick response...one more question...
The APC MasterSwitch feature you list...does that allow remote rebooting of the server, or do you need to submitt a trouble ticket or call to get a reboot?
cabalstudios 02-26-2002, 05:35 PM Originally posted by greggish
Thanks for the quick response...one more question...
The APC MasterSwitch feature you list...does that allow remote rebooting of the server, or do you need to submitt a trouble ticket or call to get a reboot?
Yes it does give you remote reboot capability, you wont need to ring support to get a reboot.. this will be incorporated into your extranet access for security....
Regards
I would like to order two Dedicated Server 1 + upgrade 265 Ram to 1G Ram, please tell me:
1. is the prices correct(139 + 200) *2 = $678
(upgrade to 1 gig from 256 is one time charge of 200 or additional 29 per month. you said that earlier).
2. When server can be setup
3. Is there cgi (perl) installed
4. Your paypal account
I will pay you by paypal straight away.
You can contact me at : webmaster@9club.net
cabalstudios 02-26-2002, 05:39 PM Originally posted by twrs
I'm also about to get a server from Sailor soon and just want to wait for a few days until Plesk 2.5 is released cause it seems to be more Redhat 7.2 friendly :)
twrs, there is no problems with plesk 2.0 and rh7.2 :D
Originally posted by Leyi
I would like to order two Dedicated Server 1 + upgrade 265 Ram to 1G Ram, please tell me:
1. is the prices correct(139 + 200) *2 = $678
(upgrade to 1 gig from 256 is one time charge of 200 or additional 29 per month. you said that earlier).
2. When server can be setup
3. Is there cgi (perl) installed
4. Your paypal account
I will pay you by paypal straight away.
You can contact me at : webmaster@9club.net
http://www.tranxactglobal.com/signup.html
EDIT: I forgot to add the cost above is correct :D
sailor 02-26-2002, 06:33 PM Originally posted by greggish
Thanks for the quick response...one more question...
The APC MasterSwitch feature you list...does that allow remote rebooting of the server, or do you need to submitt a trouble ticket or call to get a reboot?
You have control of your port with md5 hash security. Reboot away till your heart is content. :)
Originally posted by cabalstudios
http://www.tranxactglobal.com/signup.html
EDIT: I forgot to add the cost above is correct :D
Could you please tell me before I signup:
* When server can be setup
* Is there cgi (perl) installed
Because I experienced that someone took my money then hold till 2 months
still not setup for me!
I need cgi is installed so I can run the site straight away without
configuration headache.
Revelation 02-26-2002, 07:50 PM As the server admin you dictate what is installed on your server. This means that you could install whatever you want.
If perl isn't installed in this configuration of redhat, then it should be too hard to install it. It's also possible that if there's any differance somebody in sailor's staff could take the few minutes to install it himself.
big_smooth 02-26-2002, 08:24 PM What's the price for extra bandwidth?
sailor 02-26-2002, 08:27 PM 1.00 per gig:cool:
big_smooth 02-26-2002, 11:23 PM Originally posted by sailor
1.00 per gig:cool:
SWEEETT!
If I wanted
The PIII - 1GHZ
1 GIG of Ram
2 * 40 GIG HD
cPanel/WHM
$275 Setup Fee
+ $200 For Ram
+ $125 For HD
=$600
$99.00 Monthly for Server.
+ $99.00 for cPanel/WHM
=$198
First Month, I'd pay $798. And 198 from 2nd month on. Do you resell cPanel? or Would I have to buy it from another reseller?
sailor 02-26-2002, 11:46 PM I sell cpanel - it is 90 per month
sailor :
What do you mean by Reverse DNS?
why I need to fill in Reverse DNS1 twice in your signup form?
I going to get one first , if it is tested then I'll order more.....
sailor :
What do you mean by Reverse DNS?
why I need to fill in Reverse DNS1 twice in your signup form?
I going to get one first , if it is tested then I'll order more.....
Also couldn't find where is your AUP & TOS.
BTW: do you have reseller program?
cabalstudios 02-27-2002, 07:23 AM Originally posted by Leyi
sailor :
What do you mean by Reverse DNS?
why I need to fill in Reverse DNS1 twice in your signup form?
I going to get one first , if it is tested then I'll order more.....
Also couldn't find where is your AUP & TOS.
BTW: do you have reseller program?
The signup form has been updated to reflect all changes.
ReverseDNS, what this means is, if you want to do name based hosting and want a name server eg. ns1.mydomain.com and ns2.mydomain.com then enter both name servers in those fileds so we can arrange for reverse dns entries for them.
Servers come built with CGI and Perl :D
Originally posted by cabalstudios
The signup form has been updated to reflect all changes.
ReverseDNS, what this means is, if you want to do name based hosting and want a name server eg. ns1.mydomain.com and ns2.mydomain.com then enter both name servers in those fileds so we can arrange for reverse dns entries for them.
Servers come built with CGI and Perl :D
Paid by credit card , please check it up and setup ASAP, then sent account information to me, Thanks.
ho247 02-27-2002, 11:49 AM A few questions:
1. What's the cache size on the PIII 1GHx processor?
2. Are these managed dedicated servers?
3. Depending on the answer to (2), what exactly does your technical support team support?
4. What speed are these IDE hard drives?
5. Is an upgrade from 256MB to 512MB $75 one off fee?
6. What methods of payment do you accept?
Alan
sailor 02-27-2002, 12:41 PM Originally posted by ho247
A few questions:
1. What's the cache size on the PIII 1GHx processor?
Cache
Cache is a block of high speed memory where data is copied when it is retrieved from the
RAM. This storage of key instructions enables a performance improvement in the processor.
Intel processors incorporate level 1 (L1) and level 2 (L2) caches. The L2 cache is an area of
high-speed memory that improves performance by reducing the average memory access
time.
Level 1 Cache: 32K (16K for infrastructure and
16K for data)
Level 2 Cache: 512KB unified, non-blocking, or
an integrated 256KB Advanced Transfer Cache
2. Are these managed dedicated servers?
no - but for an addtional 250 per month they can be
3. Depending on the answer to (2), what exactly does your technical support team support?
most linux os and apps-
and cpanel and plesk
4. What speed are these IDE hard drives?
7200 rpm with 2mb cache
5. Is an upgrade from 256MB to 512MB $75 one off fee?
yes
6. What methods of payment do you accept?
amex, visa, mc, paypal, money order, cashiers check
Alan
jmars 02-27-2002, 01:55 PM Hey, sailor...
There's a little question you might be able help the performance crazy freaks amongst us out with.
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=266987
Do you have an XP1700+ and a Dual P3 1Ghz system with relatively low or no loads to mess with? (I'm guessing you're almost always sold out, especially with the XPs, but no harm in asking, right?)
If you do, could you go over the top as a host, and have you or one of your tech's run apache bench (ab) on both systems? testing both a long html file and a long php file? (even a file with just <? phpinfo() ?> in it for the php test would be ok)
That'd be awesome if you could. I think you're the -only- host around here here's offering Dual P3s or XP1700s for about the same price. (just a tad more for the dual p3s for the newbies reading) I know both systems have about 60w of thermal dissipation (~30 each p3, ~60 or so max for a xp1700) , so they're about equal heat wise, and some folks will just choose the dual intels due to bias (or vice versa)... but what's not known is how equal a dual intel is to to an xp performance wise... or if one blows the other way.
XPs :uzi: P3s
or
P3s :uzi: XPs
in a web serving environment
It'd be real cool to find out!
You could probably even take your results, put 'em up on your site as an html file, and get ranked in search engines. As far as I know, this would be a unique comparison between the two configs as web servers.
Please please, super plllllease? Anal retentive geek-minds wanna know! :)
greggish 02-27-2002, 06:59 PM Jmars, I'm pretty sure it's a "single" P3 server...take another look at the specs.
jmars 02-27-2002, 08:06 PM Originally posted by greggish
Jmars, I'm pretty sure it's a "single" P3 server...take another look at the specs.
Nono... I'm not talking about the base system. Otherwise I would've said the p3 is cheaper in my message above, because the single p3 system is cheaper. The dual p3s are not. They're just a little more expensive, and that's what I referenced above.
It's something like $50 extra for the motherboard, and $125 for the extra chip, I believe. (I could be off a -little-, though -- but just a little)
So for the $139 a month deals, it's $175 startup for the dual p3 system, and $139 startup for the XP1700. That's $36 more.
Cracking deal, huh? If you prefer Intels, greggish, then you just found your thrill on strawberry hill!
Actually... Sailor... you might want to give quotes here, or show a pre-packaged price with duals p3s. When you think about it, that's definitely something no one is doing. (i.e., I don't think anyone else has copied you on that yet! :))
sailor 02-27-2002, 09:05 PM ok - actually the dual p3 is 175 setup and 139 per month or add the 175 to the install fee on deal3 and you get 99 per month.
The XP is 239 +139= 378 setup for deal 2 and 139 per month. or add 378 to the setup on deal 4 and get 99 per month
ToastyX 02-27-2002, 09:29 PM You offer dual-Athlon servers? :eek4: Biathlon...hehehe
Incognito 02-27-2002, 10:45 PM Or maybe even decatholon....uh oh....too much Olympics.
panopticon 02-28-2002, 02:21 AM Holly smokes - I'm really impressed by the hardware sailor makes available!
Did anyone ever ask if these are towers or 1u cases or ???
Wolfy 02-28-2002, 02:51 AM Originally posted by panopticon
Did anyone ever ask if these are towers or 1u cases or ???
Looking at the pics posted earlier in this thread: http://www.tranxactglobal.com/images/datacenter/Mvc-002s.jpg
I'd expect the answer to your question is ???? ;)
But it's nice to see some Dual machines at decent montly prices. ;)
jmars 02-28-2002, 03:50 AM Originally posted by Wolfy
Looking at the pics posted earlier in this thread: http://www.tranxactglobal.com/images/datacenter/Mvc-002s.jpg
I'd expect the answer to your question is ???? ;)
Looks like normal desktop boxes. To take a U term (oh, gawd, that's baaaad), we'd call that a 4U.
But it's not like it matters what size package it comes in so much. Except, maybe, if you're concerned about heat dissipation from xps or dual cpus. Then 4U is more than roomy enough to have some good airflow going (but so is 1u in a well designed box -- google uses hundreds upon hundreds 1u's with a kind of 'thermal chimney' running through their stacks).
But it's nice to see some Dual machines at decent montly prices. ;)
Lord, you got that right.
It's one of sailor's many unique selling points. Compared to other low cost vendors, as far as I can tell they are
1) As much hardware as you can cram into a box for the same low monthly price.
2) Real data center, with real cooling, security, real cages, real power backup power, etc. They're the real deal This isn't a "play" company run on some kid's carpet, next to their toys and dirty socks
3) Real support staff with all hours disclosed (mostly 24 hours/day 'cept on weekends). While I'm sure it's usually longer, some folks have reported as little as 3 minute support time. ooo!
4) 300 gigs of not just cogent bandwidth, but Aleron / AGIS / Telia, with the promise of more providers soon
5) BGP4 and tuned routes, private peering, etc. GOOD speeds, good routes -- worldwide. They use some cogent, but I haven't even seen that in a trace from any machines I use yet (I have seen it from remote traces done, though, and you don't see the crazy spaghetti routes you see from other providers -- again, they tune them)
6) Run by honest to goodness adults (look at the profiles for sailor & coloman for their ages). Nothing against little kids or anything, but I don't want to host with someone who has 'hosting' on the same list as 'spaceman'. Kids change their mind enough to offer much peace of mind & stability -- two things you really need for a server
All added up, I think they rule. Wouldn't you agree?
They came here with a really Too Good to be True offer, which means a little resistance (or heck, a lot!), but it seems like they uphold all of their promises. Everyone who's gotten a box or who colocates with seems thrilled -- not one bad remark yet. They're really the best offer on here right now, and frankly, I'm not sure they can be easily beaten.
Their only downfall is that, in comparison, there's one other organization out there pushing tons of servers that markets themselves better (guess who). dv2 / transxact would be well off to make some of their awesome options better known, perhaps in the form of base packages. Like package 5, say, Dual P3s, $139 a month, $175 install. Package 6, dual athlons, $with all the related costs added up. Stuff like their best-selling competitor does... I mean, look at how you guys are reacting at the prospect of dual cpus... yet it's been in sailor's messages all along, but as an upgrade, so it's not as visible as offering it as a package, with the math already figured out. (besides, most people are math phobic -- that's why they like packages, or package examples, at least)
But you're buying dedicated hosting, right? And that's what counts. In terms of running your own website (esp something that needs a big machine, like php/mysql stuff), or hosting company, I think they really give you a chance to play with the big boys, for not much more money than virtual hosting. Now that's really saying something that matters.
Great servers & bandwidth. Great company. Great people. Really the one to watch (and buy from!).
Originally posted by jmars
Great servers & bandwidth. Great company. Great people. Really the one to watch (and buy from!).
jmars, you missed one more - great price! :D
It's easy to find company offering great servers/bandwidth/company/people, e.g. Rackspace, DialtoneInternet, etc - but I think sailor offers the combinations with great and affordable pricing, especially for people with tight budget (like me) :D
I just hope that sailor would keep them as they are now and don't change any pricing. One thing which made me a bit worried is that they don't offer any price freeze guarantee meaning that they can raise the price at anytime.
ToastyX 02-28-2002, 06:39 AM The only problem I see is that I get moderately slow results from their speed test (http://www.dv2.com/speedcheck/test.html) during the day. At night it's pretty fast. I don't know if that's because their main site is busy during the day, or if the connections are overloaded. I'd like someone that has a server through them to post a link to a moderately large file that I can download to test download speeds.
WALoeIII 02-28-2002, 02:42 PM I'd really like to beable to download a file, and also could someone post an ACTUAL IP? tranxactglobal.com is pretty busy.
I'm not gonna do a DoS attack, just want to thouroughly test this network.
Sailor
How long will it take to setup an dedicated account? Your staff told me he would make it up on Thursday, but I am still waiting for it ......., I've paid on Tuesday. I want it ASAP, and more order will come....
Incognito 02-28-2002, 07:35 PM You have email addresses and phone numbers for Jeff as well as his engineering staff I would assume because you have communicated with them. If that is said, why don't you contact them privately rather than posting here?
I just ask because I see so much of using this forum for support better handled elsewhere and I have always gotten quick responses anytime I've contacted them by email or phone.
panopticon 02-28-2002, 07:40 PM How long have you had servers with dv2 Incognito?
sailor 02-28-2002, 09:18 PM correct
hardware can be found at apoen.com
panopticon 02-28-2002, 09:47 PM http://www.aopen.com/
So these are built in those 4u desktop cases, like the LX 95? (http://www.aopen.com/products/housing/lx95.htm)
For some reason I was under the impression they were in smaller cases. I suppose even though if it were in a real rackmount case I would feel like it was a "real server" a bigger case like this will mean better cooling.
panopticon 02-28-2002, 09:59 PM Looking at this picture though http://www.tranxactglobal.com/images/datacenter/Mvc-002s.jpg
where it appers they are stacked one on top of another, what happens if the guy on the bottom wants his server opened for a RAM upgrade? (You wouldn't think it would be good to move the others with their disks still spinning to access the bottom server)
sailor 02-28-2002, 11:23 PM We are very careful with that - but I do have a no move plan for another $100 per month.
Any takers?;)
yes - that is the exact case
rally 03-01-2002, 12:15 AM Sailor, do you offer load balancing, if you do, what's the cost?
sailor 03-01-2002, 02:01 AM we offer load balancing on a cisco local director for 250 per month. This covers up to 4 servers
mpkapadia 03-02-2002, 07:53 AM Hi Sailor,
Further to my question you said you can install Windows Os for us.I would like to know if you have windows techs and if you are managing windows based servers currently.
We generally have never needed support, we do administration , updates , patches all on our own but i need to know if someone is available out there just in case things are not possible remotely.
How many windows based servers are you hosting.
Regards,
sailor 03-02-2002, 12:30 PM We are not windows experts. We only host about 10 windows systems. most of us have been through our windows trainging and we all work with the systems - but I don;t want to fool you and tell you we host a ton of windows systems. we do spend more time on security alerts on windows :) every week there is soemone who has nimda or some other hack problem in the colo (not on servers we manage - but colo ones).
We have a great offering and Ithink you would be happy.
Sailor,
What is your current availability for the possibility of an order this week?
Not certain about the processor yet (will probably depend on your availability) - if PIII, it may be duals.
2*40GB HD (Can you set these up on SEPARATE channels?)
512 or 1GB of RAM (still working on the details)
WHM/Cpanel
Thanks for your help - getting my stuff together for an order soon..
Yes, I'm interested to know the availability of the servers too, especially the P3.
Furton 03-03-2002, 01:20 PM If I were to order one of these servers would you assist in installing web.cp 0.5 when it eventually comes out?
sailor 03-03-2002, 01:40 PM Originally posted by qdh
Sailor,
What is your current availability for the possibility of an order this week?
we are on 2 day lead times right now for new installs fro mthe time of order.
Not certain about the processor yet (will probably depend on your availability) - if PIII, it may be duals.
2*40GB HD (Can you set these up on SEPARATE channels?)
yes
512 or 1GB of RAM (still working on the details)
WHM/Cpanel
Thanks for your help - getting my stuff together for an order soon..
sailor 03-03-2002, 01:41 PM Originally posted by Furton
If I were to order one of these servers would you assist in installing web.cp 0.5 when it eventually comes out?
we wil ldo our best - but we don;t know it.Best to have the tech support of the product supplier dp it. :)
sailor 03-03-2002, 06:46 PM We ahve determined that this is supported and this will cut costs dramatically for those of you that want raid 1 on IDE. This works.
SWEET!
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.2-Manual/custom-guide/s1-raid-approaches.html
scott2 03-03-2002, 08:11 PM I would have thought that hardware raid would be worth the extra money (since a motherboard with hardware IDE raid isn't that expensive now). Seems like hardware raid would save a lot of cpu, and also be more stable and dependable.
sailor 03-03-2002, 11:47 PM it is $400 and then 125 per dirve on scsi. for someone that has that budget - is is very fast and supports many more levels of raid. You are right - it is higher performance.
Thomas.N11 03-04-2002, 03:24 AM Sailor,
Will you install coldfusion if the license/software package is provided?
sailor 03-04-2002, 05:09 AM sure - no problem - we do install ation work of add on pacakages for 100 per hour. This should only take 15 minutes or so.
scott2 03-04-2002, 05:15 AM Interesting that you say it should take 15 minutes.
I was thinking that you would bill in 1 hr minimums, but I take it you bill by actual time? If so, very nice!
Also I take it that if I sign up with you today and I am still with you in 3 years, if anything breaks or has a problem hardware-wise (even long after I've signed up) this will be fixed or replaced by you for free? Is this correct?
jmars 03-04-2002, 11:29 AM Originally posted by scott2
I would have thought that hardware raid would be worth the extra money (since a motherboard with hardware IDE raid isn't that expensive now). Seems like hardware raid would save a lot of cpu, and also be more stable and dependable.
Seems that way, yes. However, the scenario for Linux vs. Windows RAID is a little different, due to kernel support and driver availability issues.
Linux software raid is very good; better than Windows. You'll like it. It's almost always more efficient and reliable than those super cheap IDE "raid" controllers, like the Promise FastTrack,
which is no more a raid controller than a soft modem is fully a modem. That's just a normal IDE chip with a tricked out BIOS. An exception might be the for the Highpoint controller, since Highpoint themselves provide excellent drivers and documentation under Linux for their otherwise cheapie chips.
Higher end IDE Raid cards would include the Adaptec 2400 (best under Windows), 3ware Escalade (think modern rap :p), and Promise SuperTrack. For linux, the 3wares probably have the best driver support.
Software raid can be better than no raid, generally (although I prefer having splitting the most accessed data between two drives on two distinct distinct ide channels, myself - i.e., a drive just for mysql; another for less used files). Super cheap Highpoint might be a little better than that. A 3ware escalade at $100 or so would be another step up; the $335 7450 cards a major step up. The ultimate step up is getting an actual scsi controller with scsi drives, yep. :) Regardless of how good the controller is and how many megs of cache it has, 10k and 15k spin drives are just not something available in ide yet! (google uses massive amounts of cheap hardware, though, ide included... consider more servers vs. less, but more powerful, single servers -- there's a balance to be struck)
Learn more on by joining RedHat's atarad mailing list, ataraid-list@redhat.com, or check out the archives
here (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=ataraid-list&r=1&w=2).
sailor 03-04-2002, 01:30 PM Originally posted by scott2
Interesting that you say it should take 15 minutes.
I was thinking that you would bill in 1 hr minimums, but I take it you bill by actual time? If so, very nice!
Also I take it that if I sign up with you today and I am still with you in 3 years, if anything breaks or has a problem hardware-wise (even long after I've signed up) this will be fixed or replaced by you for free? Is this correct?
we bil in 15 minute increements
yes - we take care of hardware
Sailor, I've sent you two same pms with no reply. Did you get them? You're usually pretty fast in replying. If you overlook them, just let me know and I'll sent it again. Thanks.
If I have dual HDs and have software RAID (with hot swappable drive support), does it mean that the second HD automatically mirrors the first, meaning no other means of backup necessary and automatic load balancing between the two HDs?
jmars 03-05-2002, 01:38 PM Originally posted by ciam
If I have dual HDs and have software RAID (with hot swappable drive support), does it mean that the second HD automatically mirrors the first, meaning no other means of backup necessary and automatic load balancing between the two HDs? What you're talking about is Raid 0+1. You'd need four hard drives for that.
On two hard drives, you can have raid level 0 OR 1.
Level 0 would load balance and split (stripe) your data between the two, which theoretically doubles your throughput on reads and writes, minus overhead processing. Two 40s give you 80 gigs total in this configuration.
Level 1 would give you redunancy. It'd mirror the two hard drives. In some configurations, this increases read speed, but never write. Two 40s gives you 40 gigs of very secure data.
0+1 gives you both, but you need 2 HDs for level 1, and then 2 more HDs to mirror the other the first HDs. So four 40 gig HDs give you 80 gigs of completely redundant, near double speed data. It'd be $500 for the drives from sailor. And, actually, that's a great deal - especially if you plan on being a host. Cheap $$$ to brag and keep everything fast and safe. There's single SCSI drives that cost nearly that much, and certainly many that cost far more.
If you go 0+1 in an ide configuration, I'd recommend you have sailor find one of those motherboards for you that DO have that extra Highpoint or Promise chip. NOT to use the drivers with the chip, but to open up extra ide channels for you. So you can have all 4 hard drives as masters, with no slaves. That'd set you on warp speed, captain. (While plenty of dual cpu boards have the extra pseudoraid chip -- it's a little easier and cheaper to find those motherboards for single cpus since there's more board space on which to put the extra chip)
0+1 is great. But, if you want to go to level 5 (where you'd need only 3 drives), I'd recommend going with a 3ware Escalade PCI card for IDE RAID, or the SCSI motherboard sailor offers if you're also willing to spend the big bucks on hard drives. The controller will then handle all the extra checksum calculations and whatnot.
WALoeIII 03-05-2002, 02:54 PM Damn this thread is getting very technical.
freakysid 03-05-2002, 03:14 PM Originally posted by ciam
meaning no other means of backup necessary
Someone, much smarter than myself on these issues, pointed out to me the other day that RAID 1 (mirroring) does not replace the need for data backups. What it does mean is that if one disk fails, the other system can continue to operate from the other one (as they are both mirrored). But if your system is hacked or the data is corrupted, then mirroring just means that both the disks will be corrupted.
jmars 03-05-2002, 03:28 PM Originally posted by freakysid
Someone, much smarter than myself on these issues, pointed out to me the other day that RAID 1 (mirroring) does not replace the need for data backups. What it does mean is that if one disk fails, the other system can continue to operate from the other one (as they are both mirrored). But if your system is hacked or the data is corrupted, then mirroring just means that both the disks will be corrupted. You're exactly right.
Mirroring is one (close) step on the path towards perfection, but it's not perfection itself.
To get closer, have mirroring, and do almost continual off-site backups. Maybe keep the backups in a safety security box at a well locked down treasury. Or perhaps keep them on the moon. :)
I jest, of course. Mars is a FAR MORE secure, because no one wants to go there because of the heat. On the other hand, that means you need a special low temperature, zero moisture containment unit for the tape at that point. And the transport costs -- whew! There's always something, isn't there? Hahaha. :p
Speaking of backups a little more realistically here... Sailor... how much is some sort of backup solution, and the monthly service to take the tapes or what have you and secure them away? Because of all the labor involved, is it costly? Or do you have different plans at different service levels - daily, weekly, bi-weekly?
(btw, the practical super low cost schema I like for backups is having 2 seperate drives, bouncing backups to one (or between them if you use one drive for mysql), and downloading everything important at regular intervals)
jmars 03-05-2002, 03:39 PM Originally posted by Snoozy
Damn this thread is getting very technical. It doesn't have to be that technical, though. It's not like you have to be a device driver or other part of the computer and do this stuff yourself. :) That's what we have technology for -- to do stuff FOR us, after all.
Think RAID Level 0 (0 is what scientists and geekazoids start counting at) = Super fast. Keep all the HD space you buy. Cry twice as much if you don't have backups
Think RAID level 1 = Secure, on the fly backups. Half the HD space you buy for it. Very few tears unless hacked into or data goes bad in the operating system
Think RAID 0 + 1 = Fast & Secure. Generally 4 or 8 hard drives (your choice), and you get half the HD space you bought. As you have RAID 1, very few tears unless hacked into or data goes bad in the operating system
RAID 5 = extra drive for checksums. Okay, okay, it starts to get more technical here. :p
Like anything, though, it all ULTIMATELY boils down to how much you want to spend. More $$$ = better solutions. But at least with dv2 / tranxactglobal, they'll charge you reasonably. They're MORE than fair on almost everything, and will tend to give you the best deal around. Some other places, if you wanted to do even software raid, would charge you hundreds of dollar more... PER MONTH, not just install. Now you're talking some heavy tears from your wallet. :bawling: There's quite a few places like that - let me know if you need any urls.
jmars, are you still monitoring dv2/tranxactglobal network performance?
I'm going to get a server from them soon and have been monitoring their network performance using Netmechanic. It's usually pretty impressive, but since yesterday the result's been poor:
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/063/1142/21-005354.htm (March 5, poor result)
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/062/1230/14-009532.htm (March 4, good result)
I hope it's just a temporary glitch and not because their bandwidth usage's overutilized due to large of orders from WHT members :D
Sharpnet 03-06-2002, 03:24 AM That's the power of cogent. Keep looking at the samples over lets say.. A month.:confused:
porcupine 03-06-2002, 03:40 AM i've got 1.5 months of samples on cogen't miami lines, i see nothing wrong (except 4 hours worth where my cable died due to my isp dicking around).
Originally posted by Sharpnet
That's the power of cogent. Keep looking at the samples over lets say.. A month.:confused:
I don't think they don't use Cogent that much. Their bandwidth goes thru Aleron.net primarily. Please note also that this is the first time I got poor result after monitoring their network since last month. It's usually very stable and fast, makes me impressed with Aleron.
jmars 03-06-2002, 12:42 PM Right. Most routes to dv2 / tranxactglobal do not use Cogent. Most go over Aleron, which includes AGIS and the #1 rated bandwidth provider in Boardwatch 2001 Network Tests, Telia. It's a major reason why I like this host so much -- they make very many smart business decisions (including this one), and those business decisions very directly impact their customers. The good stuff trickles down.
twrs, I saw your message last night about your netmechanic results before I went to bed. So I ran some tests over the night with the same service. (btw -- i didn't even remember the existence of this service... thanks for reminding me! i forgot how cool it was)
Even at NIGHT, when US speeds are usually blazing... a site I've been working on on Ventures Online came back as POOR.
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/064/0013/14-022473.htm
Rackshack.net came back as POOR.
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/064/0012/35-022442.htm
In fact, out of all the hosts I tested, I received a special email alert just for Rackshack... when it become COMPLETELY unreachable.
Some other sites I tend to on the ULTRA-TUNED, super high speed pair network (mostly uunet), came back only as FAIR. And these are the most anal retentive network performance freaks you've ever come accross, I guarantee. If you think you spend time tweaking your hardware & internet connection, talk to these guys. They're NUTS!
Now, again, these dismal results were generated all during the night, when the internet superhighway is the most clear.
So there's something probably wrong with the internet as a whole. I tried going to www.internettrafficreport.com, but it appears to be down. Either it went out of business, or www.internettrafficreport.com being down shows just how poor the internet is as a aggregate sum right now. Hahaha. :)
A problem with these tests, btw, is that since they often don't provide their actual route data, you don't know if the latency is in the network or the server itself.
Now, for the the people who keep saying the problem is Cogent, please consider reading and learning about the actual company before you comment. This isn't Kingcomp or another Cogent only company. This is a professional, BGP4 multihomed ISP where the actual cages the servers are placed in, probably cost more than the bloody servers themselves! This is the ONLY low cost provider, high bandwidth, high power, PROFESSIONAL provider on here right now aside from Rackshack, as far as I know. Most others are Cogent only, yes, but not this one. There is a difference. Saying it's "Cogent" when it's not taking a Cogent route, you might as well blame it on South African Chipmunks or nurses with large breasts. I.E. -- those reasons are totally and completely irrelevent -- and all you're doing is FUDing a good provider. (unless, of course, the sysadmins are busy with the large breasted nurses, making them ignore the health of their network. we must be open to that possibility, i suppose :))
If this place was Cogent only, I'd never comment positively about it. NEVER. I'd recommend investing $30 in a paper shredder, taking all of your money out from the bank in CASH, and shredding it all before I'd ever recommend a Cogent only provider. Dv2 / tranxactlobal not even mostly Cogent. Again, it's mostly Aleron/Agis/Telia. Check it out:
http://www.aleron.com/network/performance.html
jmars, I also ran another test last night and the result is a bit better now (Fair):
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/063/2247/55-009810.htm
But I don't think it's affecting the whole net. I've also tested the performance of two of my other sites hosted on different servers with different networks and their Netmechanic results are "Very Good" and "Good". Their primary network connection are Verio and UUNet. It's strange that you got a fair result with Pair (which also uses UUNet primarily) and Rackshack (with Verio if I'm not mistaken).
Originally posted by jmars
twrs, I saw your message last night about your netmechanic results before I went to bed. So I ran some tests over the night with the same service. (btw -- i didn't even remember the existence of this service... thanks for reminding me! i forgot how cool it was)
Glad you like it too :D
Netmechanic's been my first free tool to go when testing network performance and the result is usually quite reliable.
jmars 03-06-2002, 01:30 PM Originally posted by twrs
jmars, I also ran another test last night and the result is a bit better now (Fair):
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/063/2247/55-009810.htm
[quote]
But I don't think it's affecting the whole net. I've also tested the performance of two of my other sites hosted on different servers with different connections and their Netmechanic results are "Very Good" and "Good".
Then enough of the whole net. :) I didn't get Very Goods or Goods from Netmechanic at all for the five providers I tested -- even for the pickiest of the picky uunet based providers. Seems like a LOT of key points were having trouble all at once (but the beauty of the net is that many parts are often working just fine). Too bad Internet Traffic Report isn't working. (at least for me... is it coming up for anyone else?)
Go ahead and pm me with the Good and Very Goods. I'll add them to my cross comparison list! We really gotta look at these things over time.
Glad you like it too :D
Netmechanic's been my first free tool to go when testing network performance and the result is usually quite reliable.
Yeah, it's a nice service. :) I wish they had multiple providers to test over, though. Do they provide that for the premium service? I don't remember. Should look. If not, I'd like to find a multihomed server testing service. I mean, a fully around the clock automated one. I'm sure they're out there. I hope the price is reasonable, though.
BTW -- the laggiest part of my traces from my own provider is still what I reported earlier (another thread)... ge1-1.atluna.as.unaatlga.aleron.net, 205.198.2.40. Sailor should get on them to upgrade their switch, or whatever else may be wrong. It's nothing fatal yet, but it looks like it sure could use some maintenance.
Originally posted by jmars
Yeah, it's a nice service. :) I wish they had multiple providers to test over, though. Do they provide that for the premium service? I don't remember. Should look. If not, I'd like to find a multihomed server testing service. I mean, a fully around the clock automated one. I'm sure they're out there. I hope the price is reasonable, though.
Yes, Netmechanic Server Check Pro offers multihomed server testing. Just check it out! I haven't tried it myself yet, but I have one client using it and he likes it.
BTW -- the laggiest part of my traces from my own provider is still what I reported earlier (another thread)... ge1-1.atluna.as.unaatlga.aleron.net, 205.198.2.40. Sailor should get on them to upgrade their switch, or whatever else may be wrong. It's nothing fatal yet, but it looks like it sure could use some maintenance.
Yeah, I also got all my traces came thru 205.198.2.40. I'm curious to know what's the status of bandwidth utilization on the Aleron link of dv2/tranxactglobal if Sailor would be so kind to provide it :)
sailor 03-06-2002, 09:12 PM we are at 10% utilization sustained and 14% peak.
Originally posted by sailor
we are at 10% utilization sustained and 14% peak.
If what you said is true, then there must be something wrong, either in your router or in the net, because I still got a fairly poor Netmechanic result for your dv2 site:
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/064/1219/59-015806.htm
Come on, there should be a good explanation for this :confused:
Please tell me is that price correct for Dual PIII 1Ghz , 1G Ram?
setup fee: $275
monthly: $99
upgrade to dual CPU: $175
upgrade to 1G $200
addition IP: $1
First time total payment: 275+99 + 175 + 200 +1 = $750
I am going to order the second from you with such configuration.
protector330 03-07-2002, 02:10 PM hello sailor, I've sent you a PM with a couple of questions... and the same stuff was also sent to sales@tranxactglobal.com nearly 8 hours ago. I do not know what's the time over there... but it would be really great to see a "fast as a flash" reply...
is at least your support team available 24hours a day?
Thanks :)
Incognito 03-07-2002, 02:17 PM Just wanted to say, his support team is always very responsive. Sales team is just Sailor...and although he is responsive, he just can't be 24 hours per day. But, I think that is quite reasonable. Just don't want you to unfairly judge support by sales.
Guess, also, I react in that way, because our own standards are much higher for support issues than they are for sales...we just consider them to be of a more immediate and urgent nature.
protector330 03-07-2002, 02:29 PM hi incognito, you are absolutely right... i prefer to know a good and reliable 24support instead of a 24hours sales team....
but... i did just notice that their website has changed... the servers offered in here are not only any more... and... well... i hope there is a way to get those offers... still... cheers :)
Furton 03-07-2002, 02:46 PM I can't comment on the tech support but I haven't had any response from Sailor about a few general enquries I have about the server.
What e-mail address should I be using?
Incognito 03-07-2002, 02:52 PM If its something he posted here, pm'ing here is frequently the best way to communicate. Or email through here...sailor seems to check the board regularly and at some very odd hours too.
As to protector's comment on the differences between here and his site...yes, he seems to lag way behind on his two sites...and offer lots of special deals here...he actually has to set them up for you to pay sometimes if they aren't a standard deal.
Good and bad that he never gets his site up to date...bad is he doesn't take full advantage of it....the good (at least in his respect) is he is too busy to worry about it.
sailor 03-07-2002, 03:58 PM Originally posted by twrs
If what you said is true, then there must be something wrong, either in your router or in the net, because I still got a fairly poor Netmechanic result for your dv2 site:
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/064/1219/59-015806.htm
Come on, there should be a good explanation for this :confused:
try the same thing on www.tranxactglobal.com and see if you get different results. It is runing on one of the dedicated servers - dv2.com is running on a sun u5 and has a lot of other low en share sites on it and mail anad ftp - blah blah blah -
this site is not necessarily indicating a network problem - it may be saying the server is in need of tunin. Anyway give it a try - we do not have nay network issues that I know of and if we do - I need a trace from you so wecan fix it. Thanks- JH
sailor 03-07-2002, 04:05 PM Originally posted by Furton
I can't comment on the tech support but I haven't had any response from Sailor about a few general enquries I have about the server.
What e-mail address should I be using?
I will get to you today - this was in trade for banners - and I am still researching my impact there. Tahnks for your patience.
Originally posted by protector330
hello sailor, I've sent you a PM with a couple of questions... and the same stuff was also sent to sales@tranxactglobal.com nearly 8 hours ago. I do not know what's the time over there... but it would be really great to see a "fast as a flash" reply...
is at least your support team available 24hours a day?
Thanks :)
will pm you now. :) - been at our new data center we are acquiring - sohld be up in the next 60 days. :)
YES - 24x7
Originally posted by Leyi
Please tell me is that price correct for Dual PIII 1Ghz , 1G Ram?
setup fee: $275
monthly: $99
upgrade to dual CPU: $175
upgrade to 1G $200
addition IP: $1
ip's are free with justification
everything esles is correct.
First time total payment: 275+99 + 175 + 200 +1 = $750
I am going to order the second from you with such configuration.
Thanks for the business!!!!!!
I have been a little slow in getting back to people on sales for the past 5 days - I have been pitching in with server deployment - we have brougth on 85 new servers in the last 2 weeks and all but about 11 are installed - and those should be up today. I really appreciate all the business from everyone on hopefully we have done pretty good o n keeping up - we only were projecting 20 during that time period - so we have been turning screwdrivers as fast a s we can. Thanks alot!!!!!
sailor 03-07-2002, 04:09 PM this is being released on Monday!!!!!! I know there were some of you all waiting for this to order a server. also - we are going to upgrade everyone on 7.1 plesk in about 3 weeks if you want to.
Revelation 03-07-2002, 08:14 PM would it be possible to get FreeBSD installed?
sailor 03-07-2002, 09:18 PM not at this time - we are focusing on rh linux - so that we can be the best at it.
Great Deals Guys :
I was wondering if the boxes come with all applications such as perl, php, mysql ..... and all those kinda stuff ?
And do you provide upgrades after sales ?
Thanks ;)
sailor 03-07-2002, 10:42 PM yes it comes with that- we do os upgrades once a quarter - if you want it mroe frequent or at a particular time -we will do that too - but ofr a fee.
sorry for too many questions !!
just to make it clear for myself !!
If we get one with plesk on it would it have all the options that rackshack plesk servers provide ?
Thanks again for the quick respond
YUPAPA 03-08-2002, 12:14 AM HEY HEY HEY Sailor,
I've just ordered server number 4 a few mins ago. When will it be up?
:D :) :D :) :D :) :D :) :D
panopticon 03-08-2002, 12:16 AM we do os upgrades once a quarter
I take it this is only when someone requests an upgrade?
sailor 03-08-2002, 01:03 AM correct - we offer everyone to be patched up to date once a quarter - we get it ready and go around and update everyone that wants it. If someone says no and then 3 weeks later - says - upgrade my kernal please- then it is chargeable to them.
Originally posted by sailor
this is being released on Monday!!!!!! I know there were some of you all waiting for this to order a server. also - we are going to upgrade everyone on 7.1 plesk in about 3 weeks if you want to.
Oh my God, is that true Sailor? This is what I've been waiting for like crazy! Okay, I'm going to place my order now... :D
Originally posted by sailor
try the same thing on www.tranxactglobal.com and see if you get different results. It is runing on one of the dedicated servers - dv2.com is running on a sun u5 and has a lot of other low en share sites on it and mail anad ftp - blah blah blah -
this site is not necessarily indicating a network problem - it may be saying the server is in need of tunin. Anyway give it a try - we do not have nay network issues that I know of and if we do - I need a trace from you so wecan fix it. Thanks- JH
The network problem still persists on both dv2/tranxactglobal. Here are the latest Netmechanic test results:
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/065/0927/48-031075.htm (tranxactglobal - fair result)
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/065/0928/43-031105.htm (dv2 - poor result)
I usually use C&W traceroute here: http://sla.cw.net/sla/trace.jsp and tracing from different parts of the world always return the same path and went thru this link: ge1-1.atluna.as.unaatlga.aleron.net (205.198.2.40).
I think either your BGP4 or server needs tuning.
I'm wondering if anyone else here who has got your server from sailor up and running could run a free Netmechanic test and tell us the result. If you got excellent result, then it means that maybe the dv2/tranxactglobal server needs tuning, not the network.
sailor 03-08-2002, 11:20 AM I am not so sure that anyone should rely or put too much credence on those results. Here is one on dialtone. I know that they and Tranxact have great connectivity and servers and yet neither seems to score better than fair. That would lead me to believe the results are suspect.
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/066/0221/08-017651.htm
protector330 03-08-2002, 01:04 PM hi sailor i did sign up (p3) about 5 or 6 hours... and I got the short email confirming my order... but nothing else... it would be really nice to know when the server will be up... unfortunately its friday (sure i love weekends, too :D) and i guess... i will have to wait till mid of next week. or am i wrong?
thanks a lot!
jstout 03-08-2002, 02:07 PM Sailor,
If I paid for the support time needed to install it, walked a tech through the install and sent the cd, would you consider installing OpenBSD?
Sailor
I went on your site to sign up for the DED#1 with cpanel!!
The site has changed ???
what should i do ?
sailor 03-08-2002, 05:04 PM I jsut went to it - it looks fine - pm me and I wil give you the url you should be at.
hi sailor,
i did sign up 2Xp3 about 4 day's ago,so when my server will be up?
thanx
sailor first of all thanks for the good support !!
I just Ordered the DEDICATED # 1 :)
Hope it gets up sooon
Thanks again
YUPAPA 03-08-2002, 06:44 PM Originally posted by Sina
sailor first of all thanks for the good support !!
I just Ordered the DEDICATED # 1 :)
Hope it gets up sooon
Thanks again
you are now his customer??? ME TOO! I signed up yesterday!! :)
wooooooooooah, additional 40GB HD cost 125USD monthly?? :eek4:
It wasn't on the page yesterday! :(
Is there a one-time fee for that??
jmars 03-08-2002, 06:44 PM I think some people here are going to www.tranxactglobal.net.
Go to www.tranxactglobal.COM instead.
The two sites are two different versions.
The .com is newer. It has the proper dedicated info, sign up pages, etc.
scott2 03-08-2002, 07:37 PM Also go to www.tranxactglobal.com - tranxactglobal.com (without the www) is a different version of the site.
Sailor said before that those were one time fees - I really hope they haven't changed them to monthly fees! Yikes - I might have missed a great offer on the hardware upgrades.
YUPAPA 03-08-2002, 09:00 PM Originally posted by scott2
Also go to www.tranxactglobal.com - tranxactglobal.com (without the www) is a different version of the site.
Sailor said before that those were one time fees - I really hope they haven't changed them to monthly fees! Yikes - I might have missed a great offer on the hardware upgrades.
HEY HEY HEY, It is different!
And I have to pay one time or monthly?? I knew it was 125USD and I have heard people saying it was just one-time fee. But now it says 125USD monthly. :bawling: It wasn't on the site yesterday. :bawling: I am willing to upgrade my HD if it is one-time fee.
panopticon 03-08-2002, 09:06 PM I'm pretty sure it's a one time fee and just in the wrong column on the web site but I'm sure sailor will clarify.
MCHost-Marc 03-08-2002, 09:09 PM I really don't think a 40GB drive is $125/month. Something must be wrong :D
YUPAPA 03-08-2002, 09:13 PM yeah! is expensive than the server.
I ordered a second drive yesterday, and emailed them about the prices first, and was assured that it was indeed a one off payment.
cabalstudios 03-09-2002, 02:15 PM All,
Sorry for the misunderstanding, the 40GB harddrive are actually $125 ONE-OFF, the error has also been fixed on the website..
Enjoy the day!
Kind Regards,
Imran
Originally posted by sailor
I am not so sure that anyone should rely or put too much credence on those results. Here is one on dialtone. I know that they and Tranxact have great connectivity and servers and yet neither seems to score better than fair. That would lead me to believe the results are suspect.
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/066/0221/08-017651.htm
I know and I don't rely too much on the Netmechanic test result either. That's why I always run the same test against different sites for a few days and the result is usually pretty much reliable. I previously always got "very good" result consistently for your tranxactglobal and dv2 sites for weeks, but it was just a few days ago I started to see poor/fair results for more than two days, so I posted the info for you to check if there was any network problem on your part.
The good news is it seems that your tranxactglobal site is back to its peak performance now. Here are the latest test results for tranxactglobal:
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/066/0922/11-009759.htm (March 8 - very good!)
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/067/0446/20-007452.htm (March 9 - very good!)
Not the case with your dv2 site yet (maybe needs some tunings):
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/066/0926/44-010454.htm (dv2 on March 8 - good)
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/067/0446/56-008096.htm (dv2 on March 9 - fair)
And here are the test results for other sites (webauthorities and pair) as comparison:
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/067/0448/46-010009.htm (webauthorities - very good)
http://scp.netmechanic.com/reports/free/067/0450/00-011251.htm (pair - very good)
Last but not least, I think the Netmechanic Server Check is an excellent tool to measure web site performance especially within the US network, but still the tests need to be run several times at different hours and compared with a few other sites to get the best and accurate result. If the other sites get good result but the site you're particularly testing gets a poor result, then there must be something wrong in that site. It might be the server or the network.
Sailor, thanks for letting us now that the utilization of the Aleron link is still very low. I'm wondering are you still going to add more providers (Level3/Qwest?) to your multi-homed network?
BTW, I've ordered my server yesterday and sent you a pm about it. I hope you could get the server ready at least by Monday with the exact specifications I mentioned in the pm.
Thanks and have a nice weekend!
jmars 03-09-2002, 03:36 PM aside from comparing to the high end hosts, you might want to throw rackshack.net in, too, for something of comparable cost.
(keep the high end ones, too, and maybe add WHT favorites such as venturesonline, rackspace, and others ... my observation with tranxact is that their unique selling point is that they're a mid to high end host with a low end host cost... so it's good to show how they compare to high end. they usually do very well!)
DealExpert 03-09-2002, 03:56 PM I recently opened a message board on a virtual hosted account (200MB sorage/5GB transfer) and it is growing fast. Much faster than I expected (164 Registered Members and 3286 Posts since 02/20) So I am already looking for a dedicated server (although I still have some time) and this offer looks good to me. Here comes the question(s)..
Can I just order this account and put my files on the server and that's it? Or do I need to configure everything? If I need to configure it, will I get a manual? If I get a manual how easy is it to understand? Will I get any help at all from the service provider? Will this help costs something or will they help for free at the beginning? ...
Tazzman 03-09-2002, 04:19 PM DealExpert, Sailor isn't offering a managed server, so yes, you have to do all the server maintenance yourself, and I doubt he'd provide you with a linux (or Windows) manual. I think you'd have to purchase your own manual. From what I've read around here, Sailor does offer his customers excellent customer support, so I wouldn't worry about that too much, however, if it's an easy run you are looking for, you may want to look into managed dedicated servers.
I recently got my first dedicated server, totally unmanaged, and I can tell you it isn't as easy as you would think. In the 2 weeks I've had it I've allready managed to corrupt my linux core which required an OS restore. Luckily the company I have my server with restored the OS free of charge and within no time after I requested it.
jmars 03-09-2002, 05:08 PM Originally posted by Tazzman
I recently got my first dedicated server, totally unmanaged, and I can tell you it isn't as easy as you would think. In the 2 weeks I've had it I've allready managed to corrupt my linux core which required an OS restore. Luckily the company I have my server with restored the OS free of charge and within no time after I requested it.
A bit OT, but... how'd you corrupt your core? Maybe those of us on WHT can assemble a list of common newbie problems, and how to get around them.
Tazzman 03-09-2002, 05:11 PM Well, wasn't much I could do about it. I just installed an RPM which turned out to be corrupt. The RPM deleted a load of folders which had a few other RPM's in them, and somehow corrupted the core. Don't ask me how as I didn't have time to review the logs before the server went down and didn't come back up until after they restored the OS.
jmars 03-09-2002, 05:13 PM where'd you get the rpm from? redhat's official rpm site or otherwise? (just gathering info here; i don't have enough data on solid rpm sources, etc. to make assumptions)
Tazzman 03-09-2002, 05:36 PM I'll keep it at this, as this is not the right forum to be discussing this, but I got the RPM from rpmfind.net (which is currently offline and has been offline for the last 24 hours for some reason).
sailor 03-09-2002, 06:26 PM our servers are not managed - we can get you managed for a fee per month or you can get one of the servers through one of our close partners who purchse them from us and who will take care of this for you (the route I would recommend). I will be happy to provide you with names if you pm me. I am also going to have a value added reseller page up on the tranxact site soon for everyones convnenience.
coight 03-10-2002, 12:19 AM Can you do servers with dual processors?
I have ordered a dual cpu server for two days, but like my first order, I haven't got anything from you. Your server is good, your speed is fast, but your respond is slow. It's very important to me to be told when the server will up and run.
panopticon 03-10-2002, 04:34 AM Leyi - how have you tried to contact them since you ordered? Email? Phone?
Is this a two-day wait on the intstall that you're concerned about, or more?
ToastyX 03-10-2002, 06:57 AM I have two reasons for not jumping on this offer. First, sailor doesn't seem to read half of the questions that are asked on here. Second, a while ago, I e-mailed them a couple of times to ask them a couple of questions, but it took them a couple of days to reply. Third, their speed test (http://www.dv2.com/speedcheck/test.html) gives me slow results during day, like either their server or their connection is over saturated. I asked for a link to a file that I could download to test whether it's their connection or just that particular server, but sailor can't seem to find a link to a file for me. Fourth, I can't count. That's three reasons. :stickout:
Hi Sailor,
Originally posted by sailor
our servers are not managed - we can get you managed for a fee per month or you can get one of the servers through one of our close partners who purchse them from us and who will take care of this for you (the route I would recommend). I will be happy to provide you with names if you pm me. I am also going to have a value added reseller page up on the tranxact site soon for everyones convnenience.
Could you pm me with the name and address of your partners? I'm interested to see their managed server offers.
I'm also curious to see your reseller page. I hope you could make it easy for your resellers to resell your servers. When it's going to be up?
protector330 03-10-2002, 02:22 PM I've ordered on friday it looks like tranxactglobal does not put servers online during weekends, at least this is what i was told by email :stickout we will have to wait until tuesday i guess.... :rolleyes:
something else... i did just give a look to the ticketing system on tranxactglobal... and it's really cool. the only thing which looks somehow unsecure to me... is that customers CAN (they do not have to) send their username and password of their dedicated or virtual.... without having a secure form (i hope to be wrong about this).
sailor it would be REALLY great to have a board running onto your site for customers only.... as you did mention. I was really thinking about not signing up with you, because there are more info about you and servers on WHT than on your site :D
I forgot to ask.... will i get a nice url pointing to a nice PDF server documentation as soon the server is online? I'm willing to learn and to spend hours onto manuals.... but I'm not willing to search and discover after 2 months I've learned the wrong stuff :D
YUPAPA 03-10-2002, 02:25 PM cabalstudios told me they are setting up some today!
BTW, I ordered it on Thursday! :)
cabalstudios 03-10-2002, 02:27 PM Originally posted by protector330
I've ordered on friday but the do not put servers online during weekends, at least this is what i was told by email :stickout we will have to wait until tuesday i guess.... :rolleyes:
Yes, that is true.....
However, we are building servers today (sunday), as we have had more orders that we expected and if your server is not done today, you will be looking at Monday/Tuesday
Kind Regards,
Shazad
I ordered LAST Friday, been told it'll be available tomorrow.
Hope so
sailor 03-10-2002, 02:52 PM dual boards - delayed - manufacturer discontinued board -we are waiting on new one - should be here early this week. If we do not have by Tuesday - I will switch server chasis and boards on it to tget the existing ones up (will cost me a lot more money - but dont want to make people wait too long for something that is out of their control).
we are putting up vbulletin this week. - keep checking.
FTP test file - http://www.tranxactglobal.com/speedtest/
server names and passwords - dont post them anywhere. we have them unless you changed them and then you should send seperate emails to engineering@dv2.com with them seperatley and no mention of the word "password" in it.
Value added partner page will be up this week. In the mean time - just pm'd you.
install times - standard in stall time is 2 business days - can be as long as 3.
spped test url - slow during day - it could be your proivder is congested - or someone in between - very difficult to know - this is going through the internet - I can assure you we are not congested at our links.
1. download test .... Awesome speed from here in the UK
2. I only ordered a single processor server
puggy106 03-10-2002, 04:39 PM I see you will install CPanel with your servers,
Is there an additional monthly fee for this?
What verson of Cpanel is it ... Please be 4:)
Thanks
Chris
PS when could you have 1 setup?
cabalstudios 03-10-2002, 04:45 PM Yes...
Cpanel monthly fee is $90 ...
The CPANEL Veriosn is the latest which i think is... 4.5.0-16
Kind Regards,
Shazad
Furton 03-10-2002, 05:01 PM Impressive speed test, again from the UK on a 56k, 6kbps stable download rate.
JWong 03-10-2002, 09:08 PM Hi Sailor,
I want one of the cheapest ones on Windows 2000
Please let me know if available
jwonganan@hotmail.com
Cheers,
sailor 03-10-2002, 10:30 PM they are available - you must provide the license key.
YUPAPA 03-10-2002, 10:36 PM Originally posted by sailor
FTP test file - http://www.tranxactglobal.com/speedtest/
I get 95KB/sec :sleeping:
richy 03-10-2002, 11:00 PM i just got 330KB\Sec from the uk using my uni link. they just got a gig feed and at 2.30 am there shouldnt have been too many people on it but compared to what i see from rackshack this is good (RS is lucky to get over 75KBps). not great compared to some other file sites, i was downloading freebsd at nearly 2MBps yesterday so i guess you should all take this as a measure of what is possible :)
sailor 03-11-2002, 12:03 AM Originally posted by YUPAPA
I get 95KB/sec :sleeping:
wow - what is the network you are on - can you provide a trace for us - sounds like you may have bottleneck somewhere on your side. We would be happy to look into for you. Waht speed is your connection? Are you in UK?
YUPAPA 03-11-2002, 12:14 AM I am not in the UK... doesn't matter...
PING:
Pinging tranxactglobal.com [209.51.157.227] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 209.51.157.227: bytes=32 time=171ms TTL=237
Reply from 209.51.157.227: bytes=32 time=170ms TTL=237
Reply from 209.51.157.227: bytes=32 time=195ms TTL=237
Reply from 209.51.157.227: bytes=32 time=167ms TTL=237
Ping statistics for 209.51.157.227:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 167ms, Maximum = 195ms, Average = 175ms
I am still waiting for my server boss. :D
jmars 03-11-2002, 12:28 AM do a traceroute, too, and post that -- it'll help more
i.e., from a command prompt (if you're using windows)
tracert tranxactglobal.com
you could also go to pingplotter.com, get that piece of software, do a plot over a few hours, or days, and then email sailor that data to display on his own pingplotter client. it helps a lot to figure out network kinks
YUPAPA 03-11-2002, 12:33 AM OK, i am using cable, but I don't know if that cause a problem!
a week ago, i got about 40-60ms. Now I get around 170ms. :bawling:
1 28 ms 29 ms 29 ms my.host.name.net.cable.rogers.com [xx.xxx.xx.x]
2 56 ms 29 ms 30 ms 10.1.67.130
3 51 ms 28 ms 30 ms gw04.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.83.142]
4 25 ms 28 ms 30 ms gw02.ym.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.83.133]
5 68 ms 27 ms 29 ms w01.bloor.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.234]
6 28 ms 30 ms 29 ms w02.bloor.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.254]
7 102 ms 163 ms 134 ms gw01.wlfdle.phub.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.80.6]
8 39 ms 70 ms 48 ms 64.86.206.133
9 67 ms 41 ms 41 ms if-4-0.bb8.NewYork.Teleglobe.net [66.110.8.130]
10 136 ms 135 ms 128 ms sl-gw9-nyc-7-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.173.129]
11 163 ms 133 ms 138 ms sl-bb20-nyc-11-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.7.93]
12 152 ms 147 ms 150 ms sl-bb22-rly-14-1.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.226]
13 196 ms 194 ms 201 ms sl-bb20-sj-5-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.218]
14 * 204 ms 202 ms sl-gw8-sj-9-0.sprintlink.net [144.232.3.110]
15 200 ms 199 ms 203 ms sl-cogentcomm-7-0.sprintlink.net [144.228.110.122]
16 237 ms 209 ms 207 ms p4-0.core01.sjc01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.94]
17 217 ms 226 ms 211 ms p13-0.core01.lax01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.73]
18 210 ms 215 ms 216 ms p5-0.core01.san01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.78]
19 135 ms 112 ms 108 ms p6-0.core01.iah01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.5]
20 * * 115 ms p15-0.core01.tpa01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.46]
21 116 ms 113 ms 113 ms p14-0.core01.jax01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.142]
22 135 ms 114 ms 113 ms p5-0.core01.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.4.138]
23 113 ms 113 ms 117 ms g49.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.28.5.242]
24 142 ms 113 ms 113 ms dv2.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.28.254]
25 176 ms 173 ms 173 ms dv2-atl-core-core-a.dv2.net [209.51.131.1]
26 206 ms 178 ms 179 ms www.tranxactglobal.com [209.51.157.227]
Maybe the problem is in Cogent. There are just too many Cogent hops in the traceroute from your place to tranxactglobal.
porcupine 03-11-2002, 01:25 AM Originally posted by twrs
Maybe the problem is in Cogent. There are just too many Cogent hops in the traceroute from your place to tranxactglobal.
13 196 ms 194 ms 201 ms sl-bb20-sj-5-3.sprintlink.net [144.232.9.218]
26 206 ms 178 ms 179 ms www.tranxactglobal.com [209.51.157.227]
Last hop before cogent, then last hop period, notice the slight deviation. Theres plenty of Cogent hops, but they're all fast, the problem is clearly between sprintlink and teleglobe :(.
panopticon 03-11-2002, 04:12 AM I'd like to see more people download the files in this thread: http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=279833 and report both the speed you get and also a traceroute or a quick ping time to go with the result.
protector330 03-11-2002, 07:32 AM download from tranxactglobal... the first 3 seconds at 127 (!!!)... but than slowing down until getting stable at 54 kbps :-(. 90% of the download is made at 54.... and this is quite slow compared to download speed elsewhere in US ;(
tracert to tranxactglobal:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms XX.XX.XX.XX
2 49 ms 38 ms 48 ms XXXXXXX.ycn.com [XXX.XX.XXX.X]
3 50 ms 54 ms 54 ms XXXXXX.ycn.com [XXX.XX.XXX.XXX]
4 59 ms 64 ms 62 ms vix.above.net [193.203.0.45]
5 50 ms 54 ms 46 ms core2-vie2-oc3.vie3.above.net [208.184.231.110]
6 60 ms 58 ms 59 ms fra2-vie2-oc12-2.fra2.above.net [64.125.31.17]
7 62 ms 57 ms 60 ms core2-fra2-oc48.fra1.above.net [62.4.64.34]
8 64 ms 65 ms 60 ms ams2-fra1-stm16-2.ams2.above.net [64.125.31.141]
9 72 ms 71 ms 135 ms lhr3-ams2-stm16-2.lhr3.above.net [64.125.31.150]
10 145 ms 145 ms 144 ms lga1-lhr3-stm64.lga1.above.net [64.125.31.182]
11 146 ms 154 ms 157 ms core2-lga1-oc192.lga2.above.net [208.184.232.198
]
12 166 ms 164 ms 160 ms atl2-lga2-oc48.atl2.above.net [208.184.232.157]
13 160 ms 165 ms 157 ms core1-atl2-oc48.atl4.above.net [208.184.232.18]
14 159 ms 158 ms 165 ms above-gw.atl4.cogentco.com [64.124.51.162]
15 157 ms 170 ms 159 ms g49.ba01.b000173-0.atl01.atlas.cogentco.com [66.
28.5.242]
16 232 ms 216 ms 167 ms dv2.demarc.cogentco.com [66.28.28.254]
17 158 ms 161 ms 163 ms dv2-atl-core-core-a.dv2.net [209.51.131.1]
18 170 ms 164 ms 170 ms www.tranxactglobal.com [209.51.157.227]
now (about 5 hours of this posting) i redid the thest with the 11mb file. transfer was only 54KB again... :bawling: I'm used to download files 4 times faster...
hey sailor :)
Ive ordered one server from you guys already !!
If i want 4 more with Cpanel Up in 48 hours, at least 2 of them is it possible ?
Either number 1 or three !!!
YUPAPA 03-11-2002, 12:28 PM Originally posted by Sina
hey sailor :)
Ive ordered one server from you guys already !!
If i want 4 more with Cpanel Up in 48 hours, at least 2 of them is it possible ?
Either number 1 or three !!!
Have you got your server yet?
I am still waiting for sailor to setup. :)
form an orderly queue there, I'm still waiting for mine.
sigma 03-11-2002, 12:46 PM Originally posted by jmars
Some other sites I tend to on the ULTRA-TUNED, super high speed pair network (mostly uunet), came back only as FAIR. And these are the most anal retentive network performance freaks you've ever come accross, I guarantee. If you think you spend time tweaking your hardware & internet connection, talk to these guys. They're NUTS!
Thanks, I think ;)
For the record, we use eight backbone providers, and although UUnet is certainly one of them, the provider currently carrying the largest percentage of our traffic is Sprint.
The complete list is UUnet, Sprint, AT&T, Genuity, Global Crossing, SAVVIS, Cable & Wireless, and Intermedia/Allegiance.
Kevin
nope, havnt got it either yet
still waiting :)
ThomasT 03-11-2002, 01:11 PM Originally posted by YUPAPA
I get 95KB/sec :sleeping:
I got 122KB/sec from Norway
__________
Who, me?
joethong 03-11-2002, 01:15 PM Hi,
For those who bought the servers, did you get any confirmation email?
I bought it last Friday and I didn't get a confirmation email yet.
Jeff, are you there?
Joe
same here, last Friday (over a week now)
Iwas informed that Windows Servers would be up and running today tho.
joethong 03-11-2002, 01:27 PM hmm at least you've got a confirmation :)
Joe
YUPAPA 03-11-2002, 01:30 PM Yar,
I only have received an order confirmation from their billing company, but haven't received the server info yet.
(I ordered it on Thursday)
same here;
I think i saw somewhere they said that they'll be up early this week
Ahmad 03-11-2002, 02:13 PM Originally posted by Furton
Impressive speed test, again from the UK on a 56k, 6kbps stable download rate.
Its 20 KB/s stable here from Kuwait on a 196 kbps DSL line. Its pretty good.
protector330 03-11-2002, 02:27 PM I've ordered on friday therefore if the server goes online on tuesday (or wednesday depening on intrepretation), tranxactglobal will do as we were told... but of course I'd love to do connect on my new server asap, too :D
p.s. the only email i got was the confirmation of my payment
sailor 03-11-2002, 06:51 PM I am here. ok - status.
If you have not paid - but only ordered - you know who you are - you are not in the que yet.
If you have paid - you are in the que - we are still at 2-3 days on installs.
We are currently getting about 10 new system orders per day - and are adjusting orders with the suplier to stay on lead times with the increas in volume.
Some of you ahve ordered dual systems. These boards came in today!!!!
We will build those tomorrow. also - jsut added 2 more guys to build systems today.
NT - ok - we do linux and we will load W2k. We are getting everything right on these so as not to throw crap out there - I suspect the first ones will be up tomorrow. I did warn everyone that we are not geared for 2K - but after this we will be. Thanks for the patience on this .
sailor
Do you provide DEDICATED 10Mbps bandwidth? if so, what is the price?
sailor 03-11-2002, 08:43 PM sure - cogent only 10mb port is 1000.00 and multihomed is 2000.00
richy 03-12-2002, 01:40 AM cool offer.
which model dell's do you use, i coudnt see which one from the picture on your site. you ok for putting in bigger drives like 80 \ 100 etc GB?
thanks and best wishes
panopticon 03-12-2002, 04:33 AM The servers priced in this thread are white box servers, not Dell servers. If you go back in this thread you'll find a post by sailor mentioning the motherboard and even the exact desktop case he's using as well as the fact that the hdd's are western digital 7200 rpm.
If you're just asking if he also offers Dell servers at a different price, sorry for the intrusion.
panopticon 03-12-2002, 04:37 AM P.S. I see (from a post in the Dedicated Server forums (http://rackshack.net/13/)) that RackShack will soon be offering an unmetered 10 MBPS port with a compaq server for $400 a month. Not to mention that they're raising their transfer to 400 GB for their $99 servers and this is using mostly non-cogent bandwidth from Times Warner, Verio, Savvis, ELI (?) and also Cogent. (http://www.rackshack.net/aboutus/networks.asp)
No idea how they're making a profit on the 400 GB and especially the unmetered 10 MBPS connection :eek:
I guess just based on the principal that most people will only use a fraction.
P.S. I'm not saying that DV2 is not as good for not offering 400 GB to match Rackshack's upcoming increase - I would far rather see additional bandwidth providers (quality and redundancy) than additional free bandwidth (quantity) which is already a really great deal.
richy 03-12-2002, 04:52 AM thanks i guessed as much but was curious as to why there were pictures of what were very clearly dell servers on the page below the offers.
and rackshack admit they do oversell. ive seen roberts description of the 'all you can eat' principal. fair game,both approaches are valid. both companies are alive and kicking :) and your right about the more redundancy before increased capacity. quality not quantity etc
scott2 03-12-2002, 05:10 AM I see from their network graphs that even though they may have admitted to selling more 300 GB packages than the size of their current pipes, Rackshack appears to have plenty of free capacity, so I don't think it's a problem. The risk would be if they were new and everyone who bought a server there was working on growing so when everyone was finished loading their servers they could not afford to support all those boxes or their network was just too saturated to be responsive, but I think they've been offering 300 GB packages for a while now (didn't their cobalt's come with lots of bandwidth for years now?) so they must know what they're doing with selling them at a price they can sustain. Contrary to what others have said, I don't see everything falling apart in the coming months.
I like the more direct contact and smaller size which DV2 offers, but looking at all Rackshack's network graphs, I really like all the links including the gig Time Warner and the gig Verio links. I've heard someone say that Rackshack pushed everything over cheap bandwidth rather than the fastest way, but it looks like their cogent link is actually less used than their more expensive links.
I wonder if DV2's Cogent + Aleron + undefined local peering can compete speed wise with Rackshack's Times Warner + Verio + Savvis + ELI + Cogent links. Is Aleron as fast as those Rackshack links - I know Cogent isn't.
freakysid 03-12-2002, 10:44 AM speed, speed, speed. What about tech support? Not making a comment about any of the hosts mentioned in this thread - but more a comment about the focus of many of the posters. How fast your connection is is mute if your server is sitting waiting for a reboot or while you are trying to ward off a DOS attack.
YUPAPA 03-12-2002, 01:47 PM HEY Sailor, :wavey:
Are you still setting up my server?? I can't wait any more! :unhappy: :dgrin:
And is this an aerial photo of your data centre?? :erm:
http://mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?zoom=11&mapdata=UrVYjtEIiZ9hPpY%2fKPFWol%2bt1V51xfECEEeqBK7Mcm6y1wVkhGAf9yoISeodYfA56hBT8Am4mHTr05dghGGJsFP%2fPMyn9cCGX9bRH%2fiOaWBG2e7vYCEWigybIiy4x3clhL8TG% 2fKXLYWXRoFCxZfyP8J5pMxupMI7lechpQZA8uIG%2f9A3JALqRvky%2fkqlQTwnabmz80EdF95R9gfAJsU1OEnO%2fkCnrOqZu9Brrb3GdWXCELVoMfP0AGnmR5iQXRUiZPRqI5RFz7d69vqQg%2f MhrLr9eTQ%2b9b%2bT7ot4LzenN27BfhSCvkWdSV7kkV5JZqFLS27pC9XLCpiYI217FUsG%2fgVd%2fQcC6lR2X64cjRrsFABVPDiWZQuQrg%3d%3d
protector330 03-12-2002, 01:53 PM mine too please :D
YUPAPA 03-12-2002, 01:55 PM And the link an't working here... you can do a search @ mapquest.com!
The aerial photos has colors on it too!
mine as well thanks very much, would appreciate an update on the situation.
Incidentally, when I ordered, no-one told me that there would be a delay, and feedback makes all the difference. Been a week and a half now......
YUPAPA 03-12-2002, 02:01 PM Originally posted by Stew
mine as well thanks very much, would appreciate an update on the situation.
Incidentally, when I ordered, no-one told me that there would be a delay, and feedback makes all the difference. Been a week and a half now......
Woah, you ordered it on March 01??
yep, March 1st, seems a long time ago now.
protector330 03-12-2002, 02:37 PM this is really bad.... i hope you will get your server within today... and I wish I'd get mine within today too (3 days: ordered on friday... monday, tuesday....).
cabalstudios 03-12-2002, 02:38 PM Originally posted by Stew
yep, March 1st, seems a long time ago now.
Stew,
We apologise for the delay in setting up your machine, we are working round the clock to get servers online asap.
We are receiving orders approx 10+ a day, We will contact you as soon as your server is ready to go.
If you PM your details I will contact our techs to find out what the latest is on your server.
Kind Regards
Imran
just done that, thanks.
Thing is, no-one is getting any info, and thats why people are getting concerned.
oh well, guess I just gotta keep checkin my inbox, man, I've nearly worn out my send/receive button in outlook now!
protector330 03-12-2002, 02:42 PM hemmm just wondering.... if i have ordered on friday.... stew will come before me.... does this include that before i will get my server up... tranxactglobal has to get their backlog (1st march) done?
*scared now* jeff told me yesterday 1 word "tomorrow", i hope this is going to be done within today... I can not afford to wait further days
YUPAPA 03-12-2002, 03:12 PM Originally posted by Stew
just done that, thanks.
Thing is, no-one is getting any info, and thats why people are getting concerned.
oh well, guess I just gotta keep checkin my inbox, man, I've nearly worn out my send/receive button in outlook now!
Hey stew, let me know once your server has been arrived! :)
will do, although you'll probably hear me cheering anyway! :)
sailor 03-12-2002, 04:55 PM ok - we are almost done on many orders - some of you got notified yesterday. Others will get noticed today. YES _ WE ARE kicking the crap out of our supplier for their delays on the dual pentium boxes. For you NT guys - I jsut got a dedicated 2k guy taking care of you all. You will all get a bunch of notifications today and tomorrow on servers up!!!!!! Everyone else - our backlog sohuld be back down to 1-2 days by the end of the week vs current 3 days. Tahnks for your patience.
DJiMPaCT 03-12-2002, 07:17 PM Do you have ICQ MSN YAHOO or AIM ? I want some more details etc..
smartmlp 03-12-2002, 09:48 PM URGGG.
THIS is really making me mad with rackshack! 400GB!!!!!! :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
smartmlp 03-12-2002, 09:59 PM When are thoes forums gonna be up/are the up? you got a community here!
sailor 03-12-2002, 10:23 PM we will start working on it - hsould be later this week - I have not wated to pull anyone from delivering the current backlog of servers. Added a second supplier today and as I mentioned before - 3 more techs. Sould be totally caught up by Thursday.
protector330 03-13-2002, 01:04 PM :bawling: :bawling: my outlook send and receive button is worn out too, as stew's. sailor I did just send you a PM. I hope you will send me the server login within today....
one of the major reasons for signing up (of course after all the positive coments about you) was the 3 working day time needed to setup the box
YUPAPA 03-13-2002, 01:31 PM ME TOO!
I've been waiting for the server since Thursday! I don't want to spend 400USD for a 7+ days setup?? AND I hope I can get it these days!
Sent you a PM, check your toybox please.
Still waiting, 'patiently'. Day 13
Has anyone had a Windows Server setup yet?
protector330 03-13-2002, 03:07 PM yupapa... just curious... did you order a linux box? dual or single cpu?
stew? and you?
i did order a linux .. single cpu
YUPAPA 03-13-2002, 03:09 PM Originally posted by protector330
yupapa... just curious... did you order a linux box? dual or single cpu?
stew? and you?
i did order a linux .. single cpu
a linux single cpu ... DEDICATED NUMBER 4! STILL WAITING! :mad:
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AMD XP 1700
256MB RAM
40GB HD
APC Master Switch
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Are we the only 3 bought their servers?? :stickout
I ordered a P3 1 gig 512 ram and 2 hard drives, with Windows on.
:sleeping:
If there are signups at '10+' per day, how come theres only 3 of us posting our concerns here?
there ought to be at least 110 people waiting in a lovely, orderly patient queue for their server to be set up? or am I missing something here?
protector330 03-13-2002, 03:40 PM oh therefore... i was thinking that your delay could be caused by a dual cpu box.... mumblemumble.... :eek: if so....
If I'm not wrong it's 3:32PM now in Atlanta.... not much time left till the end of another business day.
I keep on hoping to get a nice info email with all the data within today... 3 business day would mean to me (positive thinking)
friday morning (us time) -> order
saturday & sunday -> 0
monday -> 1
tuesday -> 2
wednesday ->3
Please, Tranxactglobal... let me go on with a positive thinking time with you.
P.S. to other customers (stew, yupapa)... could you pls tell me as soon as you get your server online? or will I hear you happily laughing so loudly that I'll be able to hear you?
guys im also waiting :bawling:
and i really have to see how it is cause im in the need of 4 more servers !! I think I ordered friday
I ordered a server (#1) on sunday...
Sailor told me that my server will be up on wednesday. Still waiting...
YUPAPA 03-13-2002, 03:57 PM We have 5 now... including me... :D
This is just getting ridiculous now,
Sailor, or anyone from Transxact, please let me know as soon as possible when my server will be available. There is no reason that I can see why it should have taken 13 days so far to setup a straightforward server.
No-one wants to post this kind of stuff here, but this is just getting insane.
Personally, I dont care about normal business hours, if you have a backlog then clear it up, and make sure you start with ME, unless of course anyone can beat my record? any takers?
Thanks
(and guys, as I said before, if I hear that my server is live, the whole world will shake for a moment as I let out a massive cheer.)
cabalstudios 03-13-2002, 04:33 PM Guys/Gals,
Any of you guys rang the support number?
Have you used the support ticketing system? (quote you name/email and what you ordered in the ticket)
We are not always on WHT as we have more than our handsfull with clients.
Please try the support ticketing system, this will get to our techs directly, and they can update you on the current status :D
Thank You.
Kind Regards
Imran
just did that.
But I have pm'd you and had no response. I am struggling to understand why you dont seem to understand that people are getting frustrated here, and that a little information might just soothe some fractured nerves.
Thanks
Stew
cabalstudios 03-13-2002, 04:42 PM Originally posted by Stew
just did that.
But I have pm'd you and had no response. I am struggling to understand why you dont seem to understand that people are getting frustrated here, and that a little information might just soothe some fractured nerves.
Thanks
Stew
Stew,
We understand how frustrating this can be, but believe me we are working round the clock to get orders completed asap.
Kind Regards
Imran
protector330 03-13-2002, 04:43 PM did just use trouble ticketing system too.... (did already send email + PM but no responce since about 10 hours).
therefore the summary is (please correct me if I'm wrong):
- 5 known waiting customers in WHT
- 23 new support tickets since 8th of march (see ticket #)
where are all the other customers causing this big delay?
I ordered by Paypal... The money is already sent and the next payement is on Apr 10, 2002. I don't want to pay for your delay.
Have you a solution for this ?
cabalstudios 03-13-2002, 04:56 PM Originally posted by protector330
did just use trouble ticketing system too.... (did already send email + PM but no responce since about 10 hours).
therefore the summary is (please correct me if I'm wrong):
- 5 known waiting customers in WHT
- 23 new support tickets since 8th of march (see ticket #)
where are all the other customers causing this big delay?
protector330,
Its not the customers that are causing delays, its the equipment, most servers are configured just waiting to be plugged to the net, our switches didn't arrive as they should have, so we cannot get your server on the network.
We are doing all we can, rest assured. :)
Kind Regards
Imran
protector330 03-13-2002, 05:04 PM sarcastic only, not intended to be offensive...
Imran and I was thinking Atlanta was such a big city with lots of shops. Hemmm, if I need a new switch I go to the shop and buy one.
If I urgently need a/some new switch/es because customers are waiting really hard and my comapany is risking to lose orders/customers... well I run (!) to the shop and buy a switch... even if its an expensive one out of the retail...
YUPAPA 03-13-2002, 05:04 PM Originally posted by cabalstudios
Stew,
We understand how frustrating this can be, but believe me we are working round the clock to get orders completed asap.
Kind Regards
Imran
Originally posted by cabalstudios
protector330,
Its not the customers that are causing delays, its the equipment, most servers are configured just waiting to be plugged to the net, our switches didn't arrive as they should have, so we cannot get your server on the network.
We are doing all we can, rest assured. :)
Kind Regards
Imran
But a few mins ago, you said you were trying to get orders completed instead of waiting for the switiches to be arrived. :bawling:
Both??
cabalstudios 03-13-2002, 05:09 PM We,
Cant complete a order without a network socket to plug it in, we are getting all the servers built, and when the switches arrive we just plug them in, and off we go. :D
Imran
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