How many races are there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Human-phylo-tree.png

I think there are 4. Asian, European, African and Eskomo? I'm not sure can anyone clear this up?

I'm trying to prove my friend wrong that every nation is not a race :)

There's a lot more than that. Heh, there's a lot more than that just in the European group.. Nordic, Alpine, Anglo Saxon, then there's Native American, Asian, Arab, Jewish, Eskimo, and I'm sure lots more than that..

Originally posted by crspyjohn
How many races are there?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Human-phylo-tree.png

I think there are 4. Asian, European, African and Eskomo? I'm not sure can anyone clear this up?

I'm trying to prove my friend wrong that every nation is not a race :)

I thought it would have been .. Causasian, Negroid, Asain.

Not my srong point unfortunately.

Doc

what about latin people?

You are talking about ethic groups varg. Thats like saying Chinese and Vietnamese are not the same but they are. They mirgrated (spelled right?) but they are the same people just the vietnamese mirgrated from away from china.. Latin ect in north american i was told are mirgrated asians.

Originally posted by varg
There's a lot more than that. Heh, there's a lot more than that just in the European group.. Nordic, Alpine, Anglo Saxon, then there's Native American, Asian, Arab, Jewish, Eskimo, and I'm sure lots more than that..

Jewish? Judaism is a religion, its not confined to a race.

One: the Human race.

what everyone esle is saying are ETHIC groups not races. nice human race :)

Answer. 3

The classification by race is not as simple as most people think.
Skull shape is the major way of difining the Three major races.
It has been found that skull shape is only ageneral thing rather than an absolute.

the Major races are.
Caucasion:
Skull: Dolicephalic(Long-Head),High forehead,Little supraobital development.
Face: Mainly Leptoproscopic( Narrow)Sometimes Meso- or even Euryproscopic, Neither Facial nor alveolar prognathism occurs except among some archaic peoples.
Nose:Long,narrow,high in both root and bridge.

Mongoloid:
Skull: High incidence of Brachycephaly(Short Round Head)
American Indians while Mongoloid are often Dolicephalic.
Foreheads slightly lower than that of the Caucasoid.
No Supraobital development.
Face: Wide and short, projecting cheek bones, Prognathism rare. Shovel shaped incisors common especialy in Asia.
Nose: Mesorine(Low and Broad in both root and bridge.



Negroid:
Skull: usually Dolicephalic, a small minority are Brachycephalic.
Forehead most often high, little supraobital development.
Face: Leproscopic (to a much lesser degree than the Caucasion), Prognathism common in most Negro populations.
Nose: Low & broad in root and bridge with characteristic depression at root.


Doc

Originally posted by crspyjohn
How many races are there? That's a loaded question, because there's no agreement currently among scientists as to how the word "race" is properly defined.

A discussion of that issue is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race#Summary_of_Different_Definitions_of_Race

Yea, i was reading that. Thanks doc i think that helps.

So the

Caucasion (white)
Mongoloid (asian i guess?)
Negroid (african)

is that right?

Originally posted by crspyjohn
Yea, i was reading that. Thanks doc i think that helps.

So the

Caucasion (white)
Mongoloid (asian i guess?)
Negroid (african)

is that right?

Yes that's about it, of course there is no race that is pure bred, there is significant breeding across all the races which has somewhat diluted the gene pool. But for all intensive purposes we have three.

Doc

thanks yes i win 5 bucks

Mongaloid ----> Mongrel

The next time somebody calls you a Mongrel, perhaps there not cursing you at all, but suggesting you belong to the mongaloid race. :rofl:

Bl**dy mongrel

Doc

Haha good one.

Caucasoid, Negroid, Australoid, Mongoloid, Capoid. Those seem to be the most common races. As for who is what, that's where the fun begins. ;)

Originally posted by TheDoctor
Answer. 3

The classification by race is not as simple as most people think.
Skull shape is the major way of difining the Three major races.
It has been found that skull shape is only ageneral thing rather than an absolute.

the Major races are.
Caucasion:
Skull: Dolicephalic(Long-Head),High forehead,Little supraobital development.
Face: Mainly Leptoproscopic( Narrow)Sometimes Meso- or even Euryproscopic, Neither Facial nor alveolar prognathism occurs except among some archaic peoples.
Nose:Long,narrow,high in both root and bridge.

Mongoloid:
Skull: High incidence of Brachycephaly(Short Round Head)
American Indians while Mongoloid are often Dolicephalic.
Foreheads slightly lower than that of the Caucasoid.
No Supraobital development.
Face: Wide and short, projecting cheek bones, Prognathism rare. Shovel shaped incisors common especialy in Asia.
Nose: Mesorine(Low and Broad in both root and bridge.



Negroid:
Skull: usually Dolicephalic, a small minority are Brachycephalic.
Forehead most often high, little supraobital development.
Face: Leproscopic (to a much lesser degree than the Caucasion), Prognathism common in most Negro populations.
Nose: Low & broad in root and bridge with characteristic depression at root.


Doc

Theres 3.

Originally posted by crspyjohn
Theres 3.

3 main ones that most people fit into one way or another... But there are odd types that fit into their own race.

Even this Wiki thing says 4:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasoid

And race is just a silly classification system... Who fits where.

Originally posted by webmultitude
Caucasoid, Negroid, Australoid, Mongoloid, Capoid. Those seem to be the most common races. As for who is what, that's where the fun begins. ;)

They are sub classes.

What webmulltitude is talking about is basically MIXED races, there is only 3 races. Once we start talking about mixed races then the figure would rise expotentially.

Doc

Originally posted by TheDoctor
They are sub classes.

What webmulltitude is talking about is basically MIXED races, there is only 3 races. Once we start talking about mixed races then the figure would rise expotentially.

Doc

I wouldn't call them subclasses, but maybe stablized blends with elements from both sides.

An example would be an Australian aboriginee. He is an "Australoid" but you can logically piece together how he fits somewhere between Mongoloids and Negroids. I'm not too aware of the history, descent, and heritage of Australian Aboriginees though so I really don't know.

No doubt in an hundred years or so we will have one or two new subclasses.

1. Techna-oid
2. Webber-oid
3. Troll-oid

Not sure what name they will give to the subclass that is basically made up of forum junkie. :eek:

Doc

Originally posted by TheDoctor
No doubt in an hundred years or so we will have one or two new subclasses.

1. Techna-oid
2. Webber-oid
3. Troll-oid

Not sure what name they will give to the subclass that is basically made up of forum junkie. :eek:

Doc

I already belong to the Forumid subrace of the Technoid race. :D

I don't really consider "Jewish" a race, but more of a religion. Its like you could be black and still be Jewish, but your not of that race.

It really depends on the region you live in to determine the main races. In the 1500s - 1600s the majority of America were native indians. Just like the majority of Mexico were Aztec Indians until the Spainards came.

Originally posted by Kerry Jones
I don't really consider "Jewish" a race, but more of a religion. Its like you could be black and still be Jewish, but your not of that race.

It really depends on the region you live in to determine the main races. In the 1500s - 1600s the majority of America were native indians. Just like the majority of Mexico were Aztec Indians until the Spainards came.

Your talking about tribes not races. There is three races and the people of those races have distinct physical differences from race to race. Now once you start to look at tribes and individuals you can start to see the mix between the races. It has nothing to do with Geographical location. Basically it comes back to who your mother fell in love with.

Doc

So your saying Cherokee Indians are not a race? :eek2:

They are not. They are asians who mirgrated when there was that ice thing up north.

American Indians = Mongoloid

Well, lets see.. theres Nascar, Indy Car, Drag, Funny Car, Horse, Dog, Rabbit, Rat, and even Human Foot races.

Almost all of which you are able to bet on (except Human Foot, the olympic committee doesnt like betting all that much).

Originally posted by amish_geek
Well, lets see.. theres Nascar, Indy Car, Drag, Funny Car, Horse, Dog, Rabbit, Rat, and even Human Foot races.

Almost all of which you are able to bet on (except Human Foot, the olympic committee doesnt like betting all that much).
You forgot water-race

Then there's those certain Individuals (http://www.whtfaces.com/faces/243NsIod.jpg) that just don't seem to fit into any know races.

Doc

In Wikipedia even the existence of a WHT race is possibility

:laugh:

Originally posted by RajanUrs
In Wikipedia even the existence of a WHT race is possibility

:laugh:

Sounds plaudable to me. Although a fair amount of technical cleansing would have to occur. :rolleyes:

Doc

Originally posted by Kerry Jones
So your saying Cherokee Indians are not a race? :eek2:

They're a tribe (culture). Each tribe has their own social 'norms' and distictive traditions from other tribes, and in time, certain physical characteristics may emerge through that.

However the 'base' races around the world are very small - I'd agree with three.

As an example my daughter looks 'white' with a hint of 'asian' - mainly in the eyes and facial structure (round). However her heritage going back only three generations is:

Thai
Cherokee
German
Scottish
English
Irish
Indian (the sub-continent)

.. and yet she's one of the few people alive today who can wear the tartan of the McGregor Clan of scotland and display the Clan badge "Royal is my Race" (my wife can't and she's kind of pissed about it). :)

Race and Culture is two totally seperate things. Race is purely genetic and physical. Culture is what happens within social groups (and obviously leads to Racism - one social group claiming a higher 'moral ground' over another social group, whether through religion or physical appearance).

I should also note it's been proven that the genetic differences between 'races' are actually smaller than the diversity of genes within 'cultures'.

In a nutshell, when we bleed, we all bleed red. We're all a part of the human race.

Originally posted by TheDoctor
Mongaloid ----> Mongrel

The next time somebody calls you a Mongrel, perhaps there not cursing you at all, but suggesting you belong to the mongaloid race. :rofl:

Bl**dy mongrel

Doc

Actually that's true and is based pretty well in the Victorian goldfields where a lot of Chinese were 'invited' as labor. 'Mongrel' was used to denote a 'second class' labor system based on their Mongaloid heritage - much in the same way that 'N*gger' is based on the slaves in the USA imported from Niger (Eastern Africa).

Mongrel = not a pure race.

In Australia namecalling is considered a part of general culture. As an example you run into an old friend and the first thing you say is:

"How are you going you bastard".

It's a term of affection, though naturally other social groups may find it offensive.

Australian is somewhat unique that generally offensive terms are tolerated as a social norm. I personally think it's a good thing as it diffuses the 'intolerance' that many other countries suffer from (especially the USA). When you remove the 'power' of these terms they cannot be used as a tool to oppress others. It's probably a reason blacks in the US can openly use the 'N word' to each other, again as a term of affection, yet 'white USA' seems to have a serious issue with the problem.

I'm not saying Australia has it perfect, but I think they're a little closer to acceptance of other cultures and races than the US.