After two weekends where my host went down for something like 36 hours, making it impossible to retrieve my email, much less view my own website, I've decided that it's time to search for a new webhost option. As I have big plans to create new websites besides the site I'm currently presenting, I'm intrigued by all the cheap multiple-domain plans being offered by Gearhost.com, WonderfulHosting.com, TangaWeb.com, and others. Unfortunately, I see some rather strictive terms on the content at all of these sites. None of these hosts seem to want to touch adult sites, or anything to do with any nudity, including links to sites that may have nudity.

The sites I intend to develop will not be porn sites, but they will celebrate the first ammendment with edgy humor, challenging ideas, and lots of artistic vision. Nudity is something that be used on the sites, but it won't in a sleazy manner.

The webhost company that's hosting my company just returned my phone call on Tuesday, responding to my Saturday call. So much for timely support...

Anyways, I'm hoping there's a stable webhost company that can offer great prices on multiple domains, a very stable environment that won't crash, and an appreciation for preserving first amendment rights. If you have any suggestions for such companies, let me know.

OK, while I'm usually hesitant to post my e-mail as I hate solicitations, in this case, I'd consider making an exception. I am looking for a progressive hosting company with multiple-domain plans at a very affordable price.

Whatever sites I develop, they would definitely NOT be illegal- absolutely no child porn, hardcore sex, illegal software, or unauthorized media files would posted at any of my sites.

Whatever I do develop that might fall in the "questionable" category will be something with artistic, or humorous themes. America is still supposed to be the land of the free, home of the brave, and I hope people never forget those principles.

So, if any first-amendment-loving web hosts would like to offer me a great deal on hosting, send me an email with the private message feature.

if you don't want to make public your email do this:
edit that message removing your email from there, then go to http://www.webhostingtalk.com/member.php?s=&action=editoptions and disable the feature that say "Hide Email Address?" set it in "no"

First Amendment, First Amendment . . .

A host setting a standard of not allowing nudity, no matter if it's porn or "art" is in no way keeping you from your first amendment right of free speech.

If expressing your "questionable" views is so important, why not go buy or rent a server of your own? You can then fill it will all the legal "questionable" content you want. Are you not "free" to do that?

Not allowing "questionable" material on MY server is not squelching your freedom of speech. You are free to wallow in the gutter and say and look at whatever you like, but I don't have to allow you to bring your trash in my house. That's my right.

SonServer

One man's trash is another man's treasure. I think the human body is beautiful, others think it's disgusting. That's fine. There should be room for all viewpoints.

Recently, the department of justice spent $8K to cover the certain statues in Washington DC. Apparently, certain officials couldn't handle being photographed near a semi-topless "Spirit of Justice" statue. It's been in place for over 100 years, but some folks just couldn't handle it.

Again, another man's trash is another man's treasure. Art has always had critics- no matter what era.

Freedom of press is powered by whoever can afford to pay the printing cost. In this case, I'm just looking a reasonably-price mult-domain host that I can afford. There's no way I can afford to pay for my own server.

Originally posted by zerp
Recently, the department of justice spent $8K to cover the certain statues in Washington DC. Apparently, certain officials couldn't handle being photographed near a semi-topless "Spirit of Justice" statue. It's been in place for over 100 years, but some folks just couldn't handle it.

Something like that could only happen in the US.

By contrast here in Europe it's absolutely normal to go to the beach topless in most countries. And in a french art museum last year they showed a pornographic video of a couple "doing it", and as it was classified as art, even minors were allowed to go in and watch it. Although that one did cause some controversy even on this side of the pond. :D

Back to the statue which was there for over 100 years, that's just completely insane.

I hope I haven't brought this thread off-topic. Just some random ramblings to show that there are two extremes. What the world needs is more middle-ground really.

Edit: Back to hosting, you might want to look into www.sexy-hosting.com -- their owner has a good rep. on WHT, and while they don't offer the lowest possible prices, they seem to have extremely good uptime and support from what I've heard.

Originally posted by zerp
In this case, I'm just looking a reasonably-price mult-domain host that I can afford.

That's fine, I hope you can find what you are looking for.

Had you left it at that, I wouldn't have given your post much thought. My point was about all your comments regarding hosts that don't accept "questionable" material . . .

"celebrate the first ammendment "
"appreciation for preserving first amendment rights"
"land of the free, home of the brave"
"first-amendment-loving web hosts"


Just because I (or any other host) choose to not host any "questionable" material on my server does not mean that I am against the first amendment or you. I'm just saying that if you want to stand up for "rights" and "freedom", then understand that I have "rights" and "freedom" too. One of those rights is to choose the kind of material that is on my servers. You are passing your judgements on us in the same way you accuse us of judging you.

Just because someone takes a stand against pornography does not mean they think the human body is disgusting. Making false generalizations like that is no different from saying that the statue of which you referred is hard core porn.

Now we are Way off topic . . . just drop the first amendment stuff and find the host you need.

SonServer

Not to beat a dead horse, but I think all the points brought up in the thread have complete relevance to the topic. If you don't want to read about "EDGY MATERIAL" in this thread, you don't have to. Nobody's forcing anyone to read this stuff.

This is a forum, folks. Share ideas, but don't get too bent if you disagree. That's what forums are for.

I bring up a point that many of the host companies have a clause that states "ABSOLUTELY NO NUDITY," as they seem to equate it with HARDCORE PORNOGRAPHY. Some of these companies are owned by people that aren't offended by nudity, but they simply make business decisions to screen potential headaches. Others are truly offended by nudity. I make no claims on their reasons, as I really don't know these companies.

In theory, many of the great masterpieces by Micelangelo, DaVinci, Picasso, etc, simply would not be acceptable on the majority of the web hosts, as the clauses state very clearly "NO NUDITY." That's just the way things are. I'm just reading the clauses- I haven't seen any web host that makes a distinction between photographs and paintings.

Needless to say, I'm still evaluating "open-minded" web host companies that provide multiple-domain plans at a low-budget price. There aren't that many of them, that's for sure.

My apologies in advance to all those offended by the term "open-minded."

I wouldn't let "no nudity" in a user agreement scare me away. Email them and ask them to clarify if the "spirt of justice" qualifies. Because if you're a law firm or something, I imagine it could be part of your logo.

I don't expect too many web hosts would say that it wasn't okay.

Also, some web hosts have unpublished rates for adult hosting. You just have to ask.