We have been discussing which 3rd party credit card processor
is good, and which is bad…and bla..bla..

I think it is time now for us to have a poll for a review to see who is the most popular processor?

I have come out below popular processors, I need 5 more,
can you suggest them? Thank you in advance!

All processors listed below are in numerical and alphabetical order:
(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) Ccnow
(4) Ikobo
(5) Moneybookers
(6) Paypal
(7) Payzipmerchant
(8) Stormpay
(9) Worldpay
(10) YowCow
(11) ……?
(12)….?
(13)……?
(14)…..?
(15)….?

:)

My vote goes for Paypal .

Overman,

A poll will be created when I gather another 5 more processors,
then you can submit your vote.

Cavalry, I think you are trying to kill me! LOL

You might include ccBill since it seems some mainstream merchants use them as well. And maybe even nochex and paymate as well. (Would be intersting to see how paymate is fairing since paypal is now using Australian money.) And maybe even multicards.

I am sorry about that. So, I would suggest ProPay.com, Ibill.com, InternetSecure.com and MultiCards.com for your poll.

Well I do doubt anyone is using ibill. I actually checked their site this morning & it was down. They failed to show up at the Internext Show last week. And they do owe thousands of dollars to merchants right now

I don't know about their financial situation at the moment. But, their history is good. IBill averaged 1.2 million transactions a month and completed about $330 million in gross transactions in 2003. This is from Bizjournals.

I know IBill as the payment system for adult sites, generally.

Unfortunately that was a long time ago. A few months back, First Data gave them ample time to locate another processor. Instead of trying to find another processor, they decided to sue First Data: iBill Asks Court To Force Bank Transition Help (http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary_Navigation=Articles&Action=View_Article&Content_ID=192798) (adult content)

Instead of spending minutes/hours/days/weeks to find out the "best" 3PP, why don't you just get a merchant account? If you plan on your business being successfull you will need to have one in the future anyways. With all the problems of 3PP going around these days, its hard to even think about going that route.

:beer:

Richard

Originally posted by coreybryant
Cavalry, I think you are trying to kill me! LOL

Oh...no, I do not dare to... relax and have some beer... :beer:


You might include ccBill since it seems some mainstream merchants use them as well. And maybe even nochex and paymate as well. (Would be intersting to see how paymate is fairing since paypal is now using Australian money.) And maybe even multicards.

Great! Thanks! :clap:

For 3PP, my vote would be WorldPay, they have been consistently excellent, the only problems I have experienced have been technical ones (e.g. distributed denial of service attack they experienced a few months ago). They offer what I call "sponsored merchant accounts" , your company name appears on the statement, you can do things like partial refunds etc, but since they are absorbing a lot of the risk you can't access the credit card numbers and you have to use their gateway. They are owned by the Royal Bank of Scotland, one of the biggest UK companies, who's group of companies also include Natwest.

They charge iirc 4.5%, I know people will jump on here and say we only pay 2.5% or something, but nearly all US merchants accounts have a gateway transaction and a merchant transaction fee, based on the rates of the 3 "recommended" US merchant brokers on here WorldPay works out cheaper on a typical monthly hosting charge of under $10.

Beware though, after the flood of refugees from Paysystems (*goes to vomit*) they have insisted on heavy deposits or over delayed settlements.

Having said that, if you can go with a real merchant account, and the pricing is better or at the same level you might as do so now and avoid the migration headaches. We are moving to a HSBC merchant account shortly.

Originally posted by rbayless
Instead of spending minutes/hours/days/weeks to find out the "best" 3PP, why don't you just get a merchant account? If you plan on your business being successfull you will need to have one in the future anyways. With all the problems of 3PP going around these days, its hard to even think about going that route.

:beer:

Richard

Richard,

We all love BMW, but it is too expensive for some ordinary
people like us, we cannot afford it at this time...!!

And that is why we can see the market demand for Nissa Sentra.

But I totally agree with you! :D

rbayless ,because mainly third party processors are the best solution for offshore small business .
If your not eligible for a cheap us merchant account or cheap uk merchant account ,3rd party is best choice right now .
5% is all you pay (average ) , while international /offshore merchant will cost you more bucks monthly depending on your region , Having a merchant account is the best solution always , but for those who cant have it - they have this !

btw cavalry whats with u and the polls ? Do u have so much free time lately :P

Okay, I have come out the following list, can anybody suggests me to add or delete the listed processors? As I might be wrong in selecting an appropriate processors in the poll...

Should we put YowCow..? Anybody..?

All processors listed below are in numerical and alphabetical order:
(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Ikobo
(6) InternetSecure
(7) Moneybookers
(8) Multicards
(9) Nochex
(10) Paymate
(11) Paypal
(12) Propay
(13) Stormpay
(14) Worldpay
(15) YowCow

I don't believe you should consider InternetSecure a 3PP. I have a merchant account with them...

Vito

Seems some people are in "support" of YowCow, so I would leave them on the list.

Originally posted by Lebanon
btw cavalry whats with u and the polls ? Do u have so much free time lately :P

Yeah, Lebanon, you are a smart guy, you read my mind.

My business is extremely slow lately, so I have to spend my spare time here to chat around.., and I do not think I am wasting time here as I can get to know a lot of nice people here, just like you, Lebanon... :love:
he..he....

calvary what are you intending here exactly ? a POLL for ALL 3rd's merchant accounts ? or the most popular ?
If your meaning all then there are left few more
i remember pswbilling / merchantboss / psbil.bz / dono thats what i remember am sure there are few more unless u are choosing the most known .

Originally posted by vito
I don't believe you should consider InternetSecure a 3PP. I have a merchant account with them...

Vito

Okay, Vito, InternetSecure is out...
And YowCow remains...


(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Ikobo
(6) Moneybookers
(7) Multicards
(8) Nochex
(9) Paymate
(10) Paypal
(11) Propay
(12) Stormpay
(13) Worldpay
(14) YowCow
(15)..need one more...???

I just found another web site http://2000charge.com/
Any ideas?

Originally posted by Lebanon
calvary what are you intending here exactly ? a POLL for ALL 3rd's merchant accounts ? or the most popular ?
If your meaning all then there are left few more
i remember pswbilling / merchantboss / psbil.bz / dono thats what i remember am sure there are few more unless u are choosing the most known .

Lebanon,

I want to do a poll for 15 the most popular 3rd party credit card paymant processors, what do you have in your mind? What do you think the below list?

(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Ikobo
(6) Moneybookers
(7) Multicards
(8) Nochex
(9) Paymate
(10) Paypal
(11) Propay
(12) Stormpay
(13) Worldpay
(14) YowCow
(15) Need one more...?

Richard,

We all love BMW, but it is too expensive for some ordinary
people like us, we cannot afford it at this time...!!

And that is why we can see the market demand for Nissa Sentra.

But I totally agree with you!

Unless you are an international merchant in its growing stages, then it sounds like you missed one step in your business development stage: business model.

Sure 3PP offers you "decent" rates and less monthly fees than a merchant account, but you are missing out. A merchant account offers more flexibility plus more. You don't have to worry about your processor staying in business tomorrow. You don't have to worry about your processor taking your money and running which seems like the 3PP business model these days..lol.

Of course you know your business isn't going to be "booming" from the get go, thus you are going to have to put an initial investment in it and plan on expenses that may not be covered by incoming revenue. For US merchants, large or small, this should be just the cost of doing business.

Call me critical..hehe

Richard

Originally posted by cavalry
We have been discussing which 3rd party credit card processor
is good, and which is bad…and bla..bla..

I think it is time now for us to have a poll for a review to see who is the most popular processor?

I have come out below popular processors, I need 5 more,
can you suggest them? Thank you in advance!

All processors listed below are in numerical and alphabetical order:
(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) Ccnow
(4) Ikobo
(5) Moneybookers
(6) Paypal
(7) Payzipmerchant
(8) Stormpay
(9) Worldpay
(10) YowCow
(11) ……?
(12)….?
(13)……?
(14)…..?
(15)….?

:)

this list is about 6 months old, I think I've removed the duplicates:

verotel
share it
visage
clickbank
Propay
verza
kaji
regnow
digibuy
v-share
chargecom

Originally posted by rbayless
Unless you are an international merchant in its growing stages, then it sounds like you missed one step in your business development stage: business model.

Sure 3PP offers you "decent" rates and less monthly fees than a merchant account, but you are missing out. A merchant account offers more flexibility plus more. You don't have to worry about your processor staying in business tomorrow. You don't have to worry about your processor taking your money and running which seems like the 3PP business model these days..lol.

Of course you know your business isn't going to be "booming" from the get go, thus you are going to have to put an initial investment in it and plan on expenses that may not be covered by incoming revenue. For US merchants, large or small, this should be just the cost of doing business.

Call me critical..hehe

Richard

Richard,

I totally agree with you without reservations.
I think your statemeant is good for merchants from the US or Europe. But I am not from the US.

Our country merchant providers require USD 13,000.00 as security deposit, and the monthly minimum transactions have to be USD 5,200.00, and they do not use US currency.

Thanks for your advice! Beer time now...

:beer:

Originally posted by TomD
this list is about 6 months old, I think I've removed the duplicates:

verotel
share it
visage
clickbank
Propay
verza
kaji
regnow
digibuy
v-share
chargecom

What do you mean? TomD ;)

Richard,

I totally agree with you without reservations.
I think your statemeant is good for merchants from the US or Europe. But I am not from the US.

Our country merchant providers require USD 13,000.00 as security deposit, and the monthly minimum transactions have to be USD 5,200.00, and they do not use US currency.

Thanks for your advice! Beer time now...

Yes unfortunately you are in a bad situation.. :( You don't have any children who are at least 18 which you can move to the US ?? j/k

:beer:

Richard

Originally posted by rbayless
Yes unfortunately you are in a bad situation.. :( You don't have any children who are at least 18 which you can move to the US ?? j/k

:beer:

Richard

I lived in the West L.A. and Alhambra for 10 years, I had a US green card (H-1 Visa) but expired last year. But I think my social security card is still valid.

Can you provide one more processor? Richard

(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Ikobo
(6) Moneybookers
(7) Multicards
(8) Nochex
(9) Paymate
(10) Paypal
(11) Propay
(12) Stormpay
(13) Worldpay
(14) YowCow
(15) Need one more...?

Then include clickbank ! its so popular for sellers who are selling ebooks or one service and powerfull fraud screens!

Lebanon,

you are right...clickbank
but what do you think of propay, kagi, pswbilling..?

And what do you think below list of processors?
(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Ikobo
(6) Moneybookers
(7) Multicards
(8) Nochex
(9) Paymate
(10) Paypal
(11) Propay
(12) Stormpay
(13) Worldpay
(14) YowCow
(15) clickbank

kagi is loosing popularity , pswbilling is now having more adult content websites and not popular for ecommerce websites .
Propay as i see you already listed it although its a US/CA service only . Paymate is an AU service only , etc but they are still popular there and have more advantages than kagi and pswbilling.

Lebanon,

In fact, I am not very familair with all of these processors,
can you re-list them based on the best of your knowledge?

(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Clickbank
(6) Ikobo
(7) Moneybookers
(8) Multicards
(9) Nochex
(10) Paymate
(11) Paypal
(12) Propay
(13) Stormpay
(14) Worldpay
(15) YowCow

offtopic : where are u from cavalry ?!

(1) 2CO < worldwide + setup fees
(2) Ccavenue < worldwide + setup fees annual
(3) CCbill < worldwide -free setup
(4) Ccnow < worldwide tangible only
(5) Clickbank < worldwide +setup fee
(6) Ikobo < ALMOST worldwide with fax confirmation
(7) Moneybookers < worldwide and a hassle to buyers
(8) Multicards <worldwide + setup fees ( varies )
(9) Nochex < UK
(10) Paymate < AU
(11) Paypal < List of supported countries
(12) Propay < US/CA + setup fee
(13) Stormpay < worldwide no setup fees
(14) Worldpay < worldwide + setup fees
(15) YowCow < almost worldwide free setup
As for processing fees it varies each has its own fees listed on website , each webmaster should consider his market and his selling volume before choosing his processor ofcourse.

Lebanon,

So, Propay should be out....!
But I do not know why Corey proposed Paymate?

Thanks Lebanon, Fantastic job...

Why don't we just work out on processors can accept international accounts?

I think Nochex, Paymate, Propay are out....

So we need 3 more...

no , if ur gonna remove it then u should remove paymate and nochex as well they are also country specific , considering how many merchants are from US/CA/UK/AU those for countries specific processors can join the 3rd party preffered poll i think.
Unless you are intending to change the whole list to worldwide and almost worldwide 3rd parties that leaves u off with less than 10 names list !

then include merchantboss no setup fees + worldwide
swreg , share it ,regnow,v-share | almost the four companies are same system of selling one sale item or softwares and they are worldwide free setup and charge u 10% .
digibuy - digitalriver Worldwide with setup fees and used by famous companies such as Norton.

Thanks Lebanon,

But which best 15 should we put?
All best 15 must accept international accounts.

Lebanon,

Do you think merchantboss is popular? Are they reliable?
We need to pick the best of the best 3rd party CC processors,
but they must accept international accounts, it does not matter
if they accept tangible or intangible goods.

same list u had before and instead of paymate/nochex/propay
You can list
Share-it
Digibuy
merchantboss

Ofcourse u should wait other opinions !:)

Thank you Lebanon,

Tentatively we have short listed the following top 15 3rd party credit card processors, let's see if anybody else has different ideas?

(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Clickbank
(6) Digibuy
(7) Ikobo
(8) Merchantboss
(9) Moneybookers
(10) Multicards
(11) Paypal
(12) Share-It
(13) Stormpay
(14) Worldpay
(15) YowCow

out of the topic

Tentatively we have short listed the following top 15 3rd party credit card processors, let's see if anybody else has different ideas?

(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Clickbank
(6) Digibuy
(7) Ikobo
(8) Merchantboss ?? -------> No listing of ISO/MSP
(9) Moneybookers
(10) Multicards
(11) Paypal
(12) Share-It
(13) Stormpay
(14) Worldpay
(15) YowCow

Name..................type..........................fee...............................rate...............................extra.................*rating

2co..................True.worldwide.........$49.–.one.time.............5.5%.+.$0.45.............Long.time.in.business,..........3
...................................................................................................................trusty for buyers

ccavenue.........True.worldwide.........$45.–.one.time..............5.5%.+.$0.40.............Verified.By.Visa.&.................4
....................................................................................+.$5.monthly.............MasterCard.Secure.Code

CCbill...............Worldwide................free...........................11.5%-14.5%..............tangible.only........................3

Ccnow.............Worldwide................Free.setup.-................11%...........................Digital.only..........................4
....................................................$11.95.monthly.

Clickbank.........True.worldwide.........$49.95.one-time............$1.+.7.5%...................Digital.product.only..............4

Digibuy.............Worldwide................$29.99.......................13.9%........................Digital.product.only..............2

Ikobo...............Almost.worldwide......free............................2.99%.+.$0.29............Visa.only.............................3

Merchantboss..Who.is.this?.
...
Moneybookers..Worldwide..................free............................3%..........................Really.complicated.................2

Multicards........Worldwide..................$95.(or.more).............11.9%.+.$0.45...........Verified.By.Visa.&.................4
.....................................................................................Lower.if.high.setup....MasterCard.Secure.Code

Paypal............List.of.supported........free...........................1.9%.to.4%.+.............A.lot.of.complain...................2
....................countries.....................................................0.35.to.0.5

Share-It..........True.worldwide..........free............................2.95.+.5%.................Digital.only..........................4

Stormpay.........True.worldwide...........free...........................6.9%.+.0.69..............Negative.feedbacks..............2

Worldpay.........Worldwide..................$399.+.$600.year.......3.25%.+.0.40............Expensive.but.excellent.........5
....................................................$.200.+.$400..............4.5%.+.0.50

YowCow..........Worldwide...................free............................2.5%.+.$1.00...........Long.time.in.business..........3

(try to read this as a .txt table)

* Rating by my personal opinion from one to five stars. (reading user comments and reviews all around internet)

And some more to compare

ecash4.net
oxbill.com
ipayservices.com
pswbilling.com
centipaid.com
youpay.net
paycasheuro.com

Hi Cavalry

Good work. Should have done earlier! You have my support.
Hopefully with enough feedback, a comparison chart or table should be shown.;)

Cavalry was very active on the e-commerce forum lately..i see he have gatherd so much usefull information.

personally he helped me before with some issues with 3erd parties, and this thread is very usefull for anyone who is concidering to open an online biz.

they should make this thread a sticky.
;)

A nice job, Samdax,

But CCNow accepts tangible products only, not digital products you listed.

I got a shock why Moneybookers, Stormpay, and Paypal got 2 points only?

Originally posted by wello
Cavalry was very active on the e-commerce forum lately..i see he have gatherd so much usefull information.

personally he helped me before with some issues with 3erd parties, and this thread is very usefull for anyone who is concidering to open an online biz.

they should make this thread a sticky.
;)

Thank you Wello,

I hope this thread can give us a rough idea to see which processor has captured the biggest market share..

:)

Originally posted by Optic Clear
Hi Cavalry

Good work. Should have done earlier! You have my support.
Hopefully with enough feedback, a comparison chart or table should be shown.;)

Thank you Optic Clear,

A top 15 credit card processors poll will be created to get the feedback from voters.

These top 15 processors have to be very selective!

;)

I have finalized the following top 15:

(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Clickbank
(6) Digibuy
(7) Ikobo
(8) Moneybookers
(9) Multicards
(10) Paypal
(11) Share-It
(12) Stormpay
(13) Worldpay
(14) YowCow
(15) need one more….? Which one is good? swreg? Regnow? Or v-share?

But I still need one more, Any idea? It must be a good one in terms of its popularity. And it accepts international accounts.

But CCNow accepts tangible products only, not digital products you listed.
Sorry my mistake,
I got a shock why Moneybookers, Stormpay, and Paypal got 2 points only?
This is my personal opinion. I don’t like service with free membership or something like “signup first and fund your account before you pay”
In addition, I read some negative feedback about these providers, but I just read a lot of negative feedback about worlpay too. Personal rating is probably bed idea, please ignore it.
(15) need one more….? Which one is good? swreg? Regnow? Or v-share?
How about graphcard.com I can find positive feedback about them

Drop WorldPay to the bottom of the list, in my opinion.

They are far from squeeky clean. We're still owed money from last year, by them. A total of 5 months processing, to be exact.

Simon

Samdax,

quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I got a shock why Moneybookers, Stormpay, and Paypal got 2 points only?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This is my personal opinion. I don’t like service with free membership or something like “signup first and fund your account before you pay”
In addition, I read some negative feedback about these providers, but I just read a lot of negative feedback about worlpay too. Personal rating is probably bed idea, please ignore it.

I thought Moneybookers, Stormpay, and Paypal can get at least 3 points? But that is my personal opinion too.
In overall, I quite agree with your rating about them.


quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
(15) need one more….? Which one is good? swreg? Regnow? Or v-share?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


How about graphcard.com I can find positive feedback about them

Okay, let's go for graphcard.com. Thank you!

Originally posted by IHSL
Drop WorldPay to the bottom of the list, in my opinion.

They are far from squeeky clean. We're still owed money from last year, by them. A total of 5 months processing, to be exact.

Simon

IHSL,

Quite a shock to hear about Worldpay owes you money
since last year! And sorry to hear about that.

All processors are listed on numerical and alphabetical order.
2CO listed on top does not mean 2CO is the best; it is because 2CO got a 2 infront of their company name.

Hope you can get your money back soon from Worldpay.
"See" you in the poll! :)

Okay, here are the top 15 processors have been chosen by all of us to enter the tournament 2005. If I do not hear any further suggestions, this tournament will begin in 15 -20 minutes:

All processors listed below are in numerical and alphabetical order:
(1) 2CO
(2) Ccavenue
(3) CCbill
(4) Ccnow
(5) Clickbank
(6) Digibuy
(7) Graphcard
(8) Ikobo
(9) Moneybookers
(10) Multicards
(11) Paypal
(12) Share-It
(13) Stormpay
(14) Worldpay
(15) YowCow

dont you think 2co must provide a Visa card feature like users can withdraw funds on any ATM machine.

Worldpay are NOT 3pp,they are full Merchant accounts.
If that is the case then I insist on Barclays EPDQ being entered, as they are the best in the whole WORLD!

Worldpay are 3pp with "world direct" service (click on for small business)
As far as I know Barclays EPDQ is for UK only.

Originally posted by amos462001
Worldpay are NOT 3pp,they are full Merchant accounts.
If that is the case then I insist on Barclays EPDQ being entered, as they are the best in the whole WORLD!

Amos,

I think Worldpay offers both 3rd party and Merchant account services. I am positive Worldpay provides 3rd party processor service.

I was thinking about Barclay, http://www.epdq.co.uk/
but I think they offer Merchant account only. Right? Amos?

;)

The poll is here:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364540

Maybe in other countries Worldpay offer 3rd party, but in the UK at least the cheapest thing you can get includes a internet merchant account.

:rolleyes:
LONDON CALLING/EVENING NEWS!!!!!!
HEADLINES>

Just heard that TOM DENMAN has called in extra staff to flex their fingers and click the 2CO button non stop :emlaugh: :emlaugh:

Originally posted by Vortex-Steve
Maybe in other countries Worldpay offer 3rd party, but in the UK at least the cheapest thing you can get includes a internet merchant account.

Worldpay does offer 3rd party credit card payment processing
service in some countries, especially in developing countries.

And their fees are slightly different in different countries.

:cool:

Originally posted by kelvinklay
dont you think 2co must provide a Visa card feature like users can withdraw funds on any ATM machine.

as a matter of fact, we did.

it was not utilized very much, and with the advent of us being able to send bank wires in 12 different currencies for aprox. $10.00 each, the interest/ utilization waned.

in addition to that, due to Patriot Act provisions, the underwriter chose to discontinue the service last summer/ fall.

Originally posted by amos462001
:rolleyes:
LONDON CALLING/EVENING NEWS!!!!!!
HEADLINES>

Just heard that TOM DENMAN has called in extra staff to flex their fingers and click the 2CO button non stop :emlaugh: :emlaugh:

childish as usual amos
I have no interest in skewing any vote.

I know how popular 2CO is by the 60+ new signups per day, and by the daily $$ volume processed.

Originally posted by cavalry
The poll is here:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=364540

Fantastic :)! And when I log in to view it ...

You do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:
You do not have permission to access the page that you were trying to. Are you trying to edit someone else's post or trying to access administrative features? Check that you are allowed to perform this action in the Forum Rules.
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Um, wassup?

Originally posted by gazebo
Fantastic :)! And when I log in to view it ...



Um, wassup?

I get the same error and I'm logged on...

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showt...threadid=364540

You do not have permission :confused:

2Checkout, thumbs up!

Ho can I get an access to the pool?
Thank you

Sorry, I am afraid the poll has been banned probably it violated the rules and regulations here! :bawling:

:confused:

Originally posted by cavalry
Sorry, I am afraid the poll has been banned probably it violated the rules and regulations here! :bawling:

:confused:

sux :(

I don't think so cavalry. It gives real time reviews about merchants. and I guess WHT allow us to post negative posts too.

Then I think the violation was created when I tried to clarify myself to Amos that I was not from 2CO that he thought I was.

Cavalry,
I knew 100% that you were nothing to do with 2CO, that was just my dry sense of humour,we British are like that!!
Even though TomD likes to call me names,I can also confirm that I was again only joking about 2CO staff affecting the results.

I am sure that the forum moderators could see this rag pulling,so it must be for another reason.

Yes, amos is known with jokes about 2co staff..Just saw one today ;)
so yours, cavalry, is yet another one..

Originally posted by amos462001
:rolleyes:
LONDON CALLING/EVENING NEWS!!!!!!
HEADLINES>

Just heard that TOM DENMAN has called in extra staff to flex their fingers and click the 2CO button non stop :emlaugh: :emlaugh:

Amos,

This joke is making me laugh until now...this is real funny...!!
This joke is more funny than Mr. Bean..
I hope I can see more jokes like this...Thank you! Amos.. ha..ha..

:rofl:

The most funny part is your "LONDON CALLING/EVENING NEWS!!!!!! HEADLINES>
........
and click the 2CO button non stop :emlaugh

:rofl: I am laughing now..seriously.. :rofl:

Originally posted by cavalry
Amos,

This joke is making me laugh until now...this is real funny...!!
This joke is more funny than Mr. Bean..
I hope I can see more jokes like this...Thank you! Amos.. ha..ha..

:rofl:

The most funny part is your "LONDON CALLING/EVENING NEWS!!!!!! HEADLINES>
........
and click the 2CO button non stop :emlaugh

:rofl: I am laughing now..seriously.. :rofl:

Glad to hear it Cavalry;) BTW,Mr Bean is my big brother:)

Originally posted by amos462001
Cavalry,
I knew 100% that you were nothing to do with 2CO, that was just my dry sense of humour,we British are like that!!

I am sure that the forum moderators could see this rag pulling,so it must be for another reason.

I see, Amos. I guess I read your mind, our country used to be Great Britain's colony...he..he..:cool:

Originally posted by S-Comm
Yes, amos is known with jokes about 2co staff..Just saw one today ;)


S-Comm,

Where is the thread? I would like to see it. Thanks! :emlaugh:

You just posted it cavalry above!! :)

Originally posted by cavalry
Sorry, I am afraid the poll has been banned probably it violated the rules and regulations here! :bawling: Do you know it was banned or is it a guess?

What would happen if I started a new poll using the same list you had in this topic? It seemed like a really good idea and I'd be very interested to see the poll results. Of course, I won't if it means the topic and/or I gets banned...

gazebo, you can open a ticket with WHT help desk to make sure. :)

who won the tournament ? what is the 2005 WHT members choice !

Originally posted by S-Comm
gazebo, you can open a ticket with WHT help desk to make sure. :) OK, thanks. I did that and got a reply which said the topic got pulled for not following forum guidelines (people using it for promotional activities) but I could start a new one so I did, here...
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?&threadid=370358

Thanks to S-Comm and Gazebo your guys efforts to open this poll!

Let's have one mug of beer now...!!

:beer:

I'm kind of late to this discussion, but am wondering if Payko could be considered a processor?

They send money orders that are processed through Paypal.

There is also Bidpay which is now owned by Western Union that accepts credit cards to send money orders and accepts most credit cards. Are they considered a processor?

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First time for me to hear about these two, but sure we must consider trying. Anybody did a try?

I have used both Payko and Bidpay several times (Bidpay-before and after it was taken over by Western Union).

They both have always sent the money orders the day the credit transaction is approved. I've never had a bad experience with either of them.

They notify the seller that the purchaser has requested a money order to be sent to them, along with the info given for what the purchase is for, auction number (if eBay, etc), purchasers name, address, email, etc.

Once the transaction is approved, they notify both the buyer and seller.

Both do not charge for postage, unless you order rush shipping.

At this point anyway, the recipient of the money order is not charged any processing fees or deductions (such as a credit card transaction fee, or Paypal fees). So what you get is 100% of the billing amount.

The purchaser has to pay fees based on the amount of the money order they purchase. Both sites have different fees.

This is a cut and paste of how Payko charges:

Payko Fees
Payko service and shipping fees are listed below. All prices quoted in US Dollars. The shipping fees are the cost to ship your money order, not merchandise.


PayPal Service Fees (Maximum amount: $200 )

Money Order Amount Fee
Transaction from $0 to $25 $3.99 + 0%
Transaction from $25.01 to $100 $3.99 + 4.9%
Transaction from $100.01 to $200 $4.99 + 4.9%



Electronic Check Service Fees (Maximum amount: $300 )

Money Order Amount Fee
Transaction from $0 to $25 $3.99 + 0%
Transaction from $25.01 to $100 $3.99 + 2.25%
Transaction from $100.01 to $300 $4.99 + 2.25%



Credit Card Service Fees (Maximum amount: $200 )

Money Order Amount Fee
Transaction from $0 to $25 $3.99 + 2.99%
Transaction from $25.01 to $100 $3.99 + 2.99%
Transaction from $100.01 to $200 $3.99 + 2.99%



Shipping Fees

Shipping Option Fee
First Class Mail FREE
Regular Air Mail (International Orders) FREE
Priority Mail $6.00
Express Mail $15.00
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Bidpay has a calculator on their main page to let yo know what they would charge yo for the MO.

I just did one for an example.

I put in a money order needed $25.00
Shipping charges: 0

The results were:

Auction Item Amount:
includes shipping of auction item

$25.00

BidPay® Service Fees:

$2.95

Payment Delivery Fees - First Class Mail:
Upon approval, a money order delivered via First Class Mail will be received in approximately 3-5 business days, but may take up to 10 business days.

$0.00

TOTAL:
$27.95

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I recommend both services for people who do not want to use Paypal and prefer money orders.

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