Its stupid, annoying and i doubt spammers will come and spam if there is a 60 second posting pause.

Come on guys who run WHT, PLEASE put the posting pause time down...

It doesnt need to be at 90, why not 60?

Who else thinks it should be lowered?

Please don't ban me for this, Just expressing my thoughts :)

It's not going to change -- there have been endless threads about this in the past.

Yeah, obviously the staff of WHT don't listen to its members requests ..... :(

I would rather have no spammers and less people abusing the system here then have the limit lower, and people abusing it constantly.

90 seconds gives you the chance to think more while writing a post, instead of alot of 3 word posts that seem to happen.

Logan, we have more spammers per day that we catch with this method, than the odd member who complains every few weeks. We ain't changing it. (If we do, it will go higher) :angel:

90 seconds to read the thread, digest it, compose & type a reply seems very short to me, especially as there are quite a number of technical threads.

Or like I say in the other 90 second threads... Open up a new window or tab on a different mboard and bounce back and forth. Or pet the cat, kiss the better half, grab a beer... the posibilities are endless! :D

Does anyone else find it annoying?

Perhaps, but it's not changing so there is no point in discussing it.

Why do you say it's not changing?

Perhaps if we tell them what annoys us about their site they will fix it.

I know the 90 second rule exists to prevent floods etc, but perhaps it could be 30 seconds or 60 seconds instead.

I often write a quick reply to a message, then have to wait and wait and wait to post it.

While we are on the subject, the 'you can only search every 20 seconds' rule is even worse. When you have a failed search or a search with no results, you should be able to search again right away!

Originally posted by sightz
Why do you say it's not changing?

Perhaps if we tell them what annoys us about their site they will fix it.

I know the 90 second rule exists to prevent floods etc, but perhaps it could be 30 seconds or 60 seconds instead.

I often write a quick reply to a message, then have to wait and wait and wait to post it.

While we are on the subject, the 'you can only search every 20 seconds' rule is even worse. When you have a failed search or a search with no results, you should be able to search again right away! exactly.. 90 seconds is way too much, thats why I don't post here much anymore

Guys/Gals, this has been discussed many times in the past, and there is no plan to change it.

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

You can search for the other threads if you want to see the arguments on both sides of the issue.

Starting this thread when the same subject is posted 4 threads down - that is annoying.

No offense. :stickout:

Threads merged.

As mentioned this has been discussed frequently. The setting is in place to protect the community from neferious activities.

Originally posted by Odd Fact
Threads merged.

As mentioned this has been discussed frequently. The setting is in place to protect the community from neferious activities.

Can these threads just be closed... debating on this is as pointless as debating on the unlimited hosting crap....

:rolleyes:

Sirius

Originally posted by LoganNZ
Yeah, obviously the staff of WHT don't listen to its members requests ..... :(

You are incorrect. We listen...just because you do not get your way does not mean that we do not listen.

This topic has been discussed many times here, and behind the scenes. It has been decided that the 90 second limit will remain (any modification would be up, not down) as referenced by Jan above. This is not done to "inconvenience" or "irritate" anyone. It is in place to limit the damage that can be caused by not only spammers but malicious users as well.

Originally posted by Matt
You are incorrect. We listen...just because you do not get your way does not mean that we do not listen.

This topic has been discussed many times here, and behind the scenes. It has been decided that the 90 second limit will remain (any modification would be up, not down) as referenced by Jan above. This is not done to "inconvenience" or "irritate" anyone. It is in place to limit the damage that can be caused by not only spammers but malicious users as well. exactly what i expected

Originally posted by zerosix
exactly what i expected

What....an explanation of why the rule is there? The tone may be a tad harsh, however to say we do not listen is incorrect.

There have been many changes made to this forum as a result of user requests. There have also been user requests that have not been implemented. Those requests were still considered and debated to determine their potential benefits and potential pitfalls to the community as a whole.

Without it's users, a community does not exist. The rules in place here have been refined over a long period of time. As spammers and malicious users have modified their actions to adapt to the rules, the rules have adapted as well to help protect the community.

The fact remains that this particular rule helps the community more than it impairs it. It may cause an inconvenience for some users, however it's benefit outweighs the inconvenience.

Originally posted by Matt
What....an explanation of why the rule is there? The tone may be a tad harsh, however to say we do not listen is incorrect.

There have been many changes made to this forum as a result of user requests. There have also been user requests that have not been implemented. Those requests were still considered and debated to determine their potential benefits and potential pitfalls to the community as a whole.

Without it's users, a community does not exist. The rules in place here have been refined over a long period of time. As spammers and malicious users have modified their actions to adapt to the rules, the rules have adapted as well to help protect the community.

The fact remains that this particular rule helps the community more than it impairs it. It may cause an inconvenience for some users, however it's benefit outweighs the inconvenience. That's all well and good but put yourself in the shoes of a regular member, i bet mods don't have the 90 sec flood protection and that's why you are not bothered by it. You take about a minute to type your post and wait a minute and a half, doesn't make much sense.

Originally posted by zerosix
Does anyone else find it annoying?
Yes
90 seconds is really a long time to wait
60 seconds should be fine

Originally posted by zerosix
That's all well and good but put yourself in the shoes of a regular member, i bet mods don't have the 90 sec flood protection and that's why you are not bothered by it. You take about a minute to type your post and wait a minute and a half, doesn't make much sense.


I am a regular member and I post often.
I would be disappointed if they lowered the 90sec rule. It it far and away the best way of keeping the sleezy little spammers under control.

If you choose not to post because you have to wait a whole minute and a half then I doubt very much the post would have much merit to begin with.

Originally posted by Matt
You are incorrect. We listen...just because you do not get your way does not mean that we do not listen.

This topic has been discussed many times here, and behind the scenes. It has been decided that the 90 second limit will remain (any modification would be up, not down) as referenced by Jan above. This is not done to "inconvenience" or "irritate" anyone. It is in place to limit the damage that can be caused by not only spammers but malicious users as well.

Tis true. Any lower pause would just be abused.

Like many people, I surf with about 15 pages open at once. Often I will be writing a few WHT replies at a time, each one perhaps needing just one more piece of information that I am researching in another window.

When I'm finally ready to send the WHT messages I have to wait 90 seconds between each one! So if I have 3 messages that have been tweaked, researched and spell-checked to perfection it takes four and a half minutes to send them off.

The 90 second rule might be appropriate for newbies and those with, for example, less than 100 posts. I highly doubt that after making over 1000 contributions to this community I will turn into an evil spammer.

This topic has been covered time and time again. The 90 second limit actually allows people to think a little more about posting a message and at the same time cut down on the spam. It may not be the easiest thing to deal with but imagine the entire board being infiltrated by spammers? Would you still want to post?

Originally posted by talkwebhosts
This topic has been covered time and time again. The 90 second limit actually allows people to think a little more about posting a message and at the same time cut down on the spam. It may not be the easiest thing to deal with but imagine the entire board being infiltrated by spammers? Would you still want to post? fine fine.. i can understand the board owner's point of view but they gotta have some middle ground and please the members as well.. all im saying is 90 sec is a bit too much

If the board gets 'infiltrated by a spammer' the mods could simply search and delete all posts by that member/ip

If it helps the mods then I see no problem with it, I think people do not realize how much 'keeping after' it takes to run this place.

Maybe once or twice a month I get that message and I just step away, go make a root beer float or something and relax while the smoke from my mouse settles :)

For those of you that really can't take it maybe they could add this into the premium memberships? Surely if your time is that important that 30 seconds has such a dramatic hit on you then the few dollars a month would mean nothing?

Just hit refresh and move on...?

I agree it can get pretty annoying. But what's REALLY annoying is the search rule. Why is there a 20 second delay between searches anyways? What moron would waste their time searching all day just to harm the forums? (other than kane)

I hit it once or twice a week. That is all. So, no. Mods have the limit too.

It should take you more then 90 seconds to read a thread, and type up a post, but if you insist on changing it. We can always increase it to 2 minutes.

As far as mods being able to Mass Delete. Well, sure, we can, but do you know how much time that takes? A good spammer could have opened 50-100 threads by the time we get to deleting them all.

The time limit also gives you time to think about your responses to a thread. This post took me about 5 minutes to write up. I know it isn't completely reflective of myself, but it is midnight. I went through, reread, deleted and edited portions of this post. "Tweaking" a post should take longer then 90 seconds alone.

So, in conclusion, deal with it like the rest of us have to. :)

Originally posted by sightz
The 90 second rule might be appropriate for newbies and those with, for example, less than 100 posts. I highly doubt that after making over 1000 contributions to this community I will turn into an evil spammer.
Not true! We often have a member who has been here a long while with quite a lot of posts who becomes a host or acquires a business of some kind who feels the need to reply to nearly every thread just to flash the signature. There is one I am currently keeping an eye who just became a host and he has been here many months already.

If it really helps to keep the spammers at bay then the sacrifice is worth it. I post some 10 posts a day and only run into this problem maybe once a week. Definitely a bearable situation IMO.

Anything to help keep the forum clean and take some of the load off the mods! :agree:

There is one I am currently keeping an eye who just became a host and he has been here many months already.I'm glad to not be fitting the profile you described Jan. :D

But sometimes after 90 seconds I'm not still mad anymore! :homer:

:laugh: That's hilarious! So patience is good for your well being :P

I think it is a good rule of benefit and wouldn't mind seeing the time increased not decreased. Cuts down on poor signal to noise ratio if you know what I mean.

It took me well over 90 seconds to make this post and guess what I got a final product I am proud of. :cool: