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JBIZ718
02-16-2002, 02:49 PM
What is everyones favorite Internet Browser

mdrussell
02-16-2002, 03:00 PM
IE. Simply because other browsers are bitches to design for :stickout

IGobyTerry
02-16-2002, 03:02 PM
I hate them all, however most least hated browser is Internet Explorer 6.0. I haven't been able to use anything in the Linux world yet even though I do have Corel Linux sitting around in a box somewhere. I hate Netscape, dang thing is so fricken slow, and nasty looking. Opera claims to be the fastest, however I can't tell a difference between it and IE, so who knows.

Tetraboy
02-16-2002, 03:39 PM
Opera 5.12 all that way! ( The 6.0 is crashy and slow. )

JBIZ718
02-16-2002, 04:27 PM
Today I started using fast browser and well it seems like it runs on the MS front end, but overall it isnt microsoft so just another look

Joe

DigitalXWeb
02-16-2002, 04:38 PM
For the windows machine IE6, For the *NIX boxes Konquerer.

iamdave
02-16-2002, 04:47 PM
Where is AOL?
LOL, is that even considered a browser?

ASPCode.net
02-16-2002, 05:01 PM
Still using IE 5.5. Havn't bothered to get version 6, yet. I used NS for a long time but must say from version 4 and up IE has been a better product than NS.

mahinder
02-16-2002, 05:30 PM
i like opera 6.0, its very very fast and never crash. netscape s***s, internet explorer is secondary choice.

311
02-16-2002, 05:35 PM
nvm...

priyadi
02-16-2002, 05:47 PM
In Linux: Galeon
In Windows: Opera

Too bad galeon is not in the list.

SMERSH
02-16-2002, 05:51 PM
Originally posted by inogenius
Oprah claims to be the fastest, however I can't tell a difference between it and IE, so who knows.
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with you. I've watched the Oprah show several times and I've never seen her claim to be the fastest.

:emlaugh:

IGobyTerry
02-16-2002, 06:47 PM
lemme edit that... hehe

Mike the newbie
02-16-2002, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
IE. Simply because other browsers are bitches to design for

Yeah, I know. Other browsers (like Opera) that render HTML code in a proper manner will choke when forced to swallow the buggy HTML code that is targeted at IE. 'Tis a shame that Microsoft's IE is so bad at following the HTML standards.

It would be much better for all if you could design for the HTML standard and know that all browsers (even IE) would render the pages properly.

Instead we have the situation where Microsoft has intentionally corrupted that HTML standard, effectively preventing other browsers from competing on a level playing field.

mdrussell
02-16-2002, 06:55 PM
Maybe so, but you design for the mass market, and not small sectors.

Mike the newbie
02-16-2002, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Maybe so, but you design for the mass market, and not small sectors.

I do not disagree with you. I was merely stating an observation of how Microsoft operates.


By the by, if your target is the European market, you're going to have a problem sooner or later. Opera is becoming the cool browser to use in that space.

You may want to learn syntactically correct HTML. :D

cperciva
02-16-2002, 07:09 PM
telnet.

Completely HTML compatible, and it doubles as an SMTP, POP3, and NNTP client!

Mike the newbie
02-16-2002, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by cperciva
telnet.

Completely HTML compatible, ...


It has a little trouble with the rendering, though. ;)

JTY
02-16-2002, 07:27 PM
Mozilla under Linux... never crashes on me... pretty fast, sometimes faster than Opera.

Course, I sometimes use Lynx... :)

technoart
02-16-2002, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Maybe so, but you design for the mass market, and not small sectors.

You know, it's really not that hard to learn how to design pages that look the same in all the mainline Browsers... :rolleyes:

Phrozen
02-16-2002, 08:31 PM
I use Mozilla on both Windows and Linux.

ToastyX
02-16-2002, 08:35 PM
Hey! Mozilla is not one of the choices. :( I like Mozilla 0.9.4 for Linux. It displays the most pages correctly. Later versions display some pages improperly. Netscape 4.x for Linux is fast but crashes for the stupidest reasons. Netscape 6.x is based off Mozilla, but they add crap to it that makes it annoying to use. Opera and Konquerer don't render many pages correctly. I use IE in Windows in VMware only if I really need to.

serve-you
02-16-2002, 09:22 PM
Galeon.

-Dan

Timothy
02-17-2002, 02:59 AM
Definately Internet Explorer :)

MCHost-Marc
02-17-2002, 03:17 AM
Konqueror :)

catharsis
02-17-2002, 03:39 AM
These days I find it isn't a huge problem at all to make pages that render well in IE, Moz, and Opera. I just stick to HTML 4.01 and CSS1 stuff. Javascript is another story altogether, unfortunantely...

Personally I browse with Opera, more out of habit than anything. I'd be just as happy using Mozilla, and probably will when it hits 1.0.

mdrussell
02-17-2002, 04:26 AM
Originally posted by technoart


You know, it's really not that hard to learn how to design pages that look the same in all the mainline Browsers... :rolleyes:

I didn't state it was, I make sure that my designs work in the modern version of IE and Netscape - the mainline browsers.

perpetual
02-17-2002, 05:18 AM
I make sure that my designs work in the modern version of IE and Netscape - the mainline browsers.

Netscape is no longer a mainline browser in my mind. Less than 2% of my visitors use it and it is by far the slowest of any browser I have seen, Windows and loonix. Don't know how they fell so far...

priyadi
02-17-2002, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by voxtreme-matt
Maybe so, but you design for the mass market, and not small sectors.

If your pages has passed the test on http://validator.w3.org, then it should be viewable in other browsers.

priyadi
02-17-2002, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by perpetual


Netscape is no longer a mainline browser in my mind. Less than 2% of my visitors use it and it is by far the slowest of any browser I have seen, Windows and loonix. Don't know how they fell so far...

Yes, but there are other web browsers using Mozilla rendering engine (galeon, kmeleon). So it is still reasonable to target Netscape. It is not easy to design for Netscape 4.xx though :(.

mdrussell
02-17-2002, 06:56 AM
Originally posted by priyadi


If your pages has passed the test on http://validator.w3.org, then it should be viewable in other browsers.

I did a couple of sites that were almost compliant with W3's standards, however all the sites I have seen that pass all of W3's standards don't look that great...

Regards
Matt

tazd9t9
02-17-2002, 12:49 PM
I've only used IE, netscape and opera and find IE much better to design for as Netscape doesnt really like a lot, tables, marquees etc

appletreats
02-17-2002, 01:03 PM
I voted for Internet Explorer. It comes with Windows, so I don't have to do any work to get it. And unlike Netscape, it is not ugly. But my main reason is that I use FrontPage, and I don't want to see my pages look bad. So I never, ever test them with anything other than Internet Explorer.

Fun Fact: FrontPage previews do not look the same as the page viewed in Internet Explorer. Mystery! :confused:

Walter
02-17-2002, 01:13 PM
Opera.
Of course.

akashik
02-17-2002, 01:55 PM
Konq!

I'm a little suprised it hasn't got a higher amount of votes actually.

Greg Moore

mahinder
02-17-2002, 02:10 PM
opera is not famous because it doesn't come pre-installed with operating system. also people are become habitual of crashing errors, they can not live without error messages "your browser is crashed, should I send this report to bill ? hey, by the way what 's your credit card number dude. !" :D

priyadi
02-17-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by voxtreme-matt


I did a couple of sites that were almost compliant with W3's standards, however all the sites I have seen that pass all of W3's standards don't look that great...

Regards
Matt


It is ok if you target your design to one most popular browser, but if you are not standard compliant you are risking your page not viewable in other browsers. IE rendering engine is very forgiving, maybe too forgiving. So if your page looks great in IE, it doesn't mean it will be rendered on other browser if your page is not compliant. I've seen too much page that can only be viewable in IE.

mdrussell
02-18-2002, 05:02 AM
Hehe, well I confess that our site is optimised for IE, however it still looks ok in the versions of Netscape I've tested it in. I have yet to test it in Konquerer.

If you want to test it... be my guest :)

bobcares
02-18-2002, 11:29 AM
Hi!
Konqueror is one of the best browsers for Linux.
The mozilla engine is fine.... (mozilla, netscape 6 and galeon use it... ) But I guess Konqueror is better... It really works cool...

Windows, I must say IE is the only choice I would have . They have done a wonderful work there. Espcially when you think it is originally Mosaic ........... it is a real improvement over time for IE... The confusion part is that they have way too many features that one does not require..

Have a great day :)

Regards
Amar

klisis
02-18-2002, 12:19 PM
I still use IE as primary browser although I tend to use Opera 6.x more often.

The only thing I like about Opera is the way it handles pop-up windows. I don't be bothered by the pop-up windows as much as I did with IE.

As for Netscape, well I used to use.. Netscape 6.2 is ok but Netscape basically lost my trust.

mahinder
02-18-2002, 03:26 PM
actually now days internet explorer is not only a browser, it is integrated with windows operating system and .net developers can program many task with internet explorer. it also support for com objects etc., and it is used by many many application on windows for example imesh, winamp clients., etc., which us i.e. browser controls to display html pages.

so it doesn't surprise me ie is the favorite. :o