Hey guys, I'm just curious about the recent spate of CC fraud ongoing in the industry.

But unlike using stolen CCs to purchase goods, using it to sign up for a hosting service gives the guy nothing to show for at all - no goods, nothing permanent, and he gets his IP/email/CC tracked down as well.

What gives? I mean, what kind of a criminal mind is that such that you have a stolen CC, but use it on non-tangible goods, only to have it "shut down" within a few hours or days at the most? I just can't seem to come to a definitive conclusion on this... Short of giving the host some chargebacks, (and a few problematic accounts), what do they really gain from doing this?

Opinions, anyone?

I asked this same question myself a few months ago.

One answer is "to spam." Spammers who can work on your server for a couple of days--or even a month, if nobody notices either the spam or the fraudulant card until then--find it well worthwhile. Then they merely move to the next host. Apparently it's worth it (at least to the low-life scumbags like them. Ahem. Sorry.).

Recently we had even one who over a period of over a week kept ordering accounts which were terminated between 5 minutes and 2 hours.
He didn't spam, it was just for "fun". One time he even send us a message how much fun he is having.
Sick mind.:nuts:

Cool, so we've got a scientific breakthrough here!

Stolen CC holders = perverts

:D

Sure, they send out spam, but what about some of those mentioned on the other posts - even trying to get their domain names hosted and such. That doesn't quite sound like it might be a spammer... Maybe just a big loser with a desire to get free hosting...?:confused:

I certainly agree with the Spammer theory. They seem to be getting more brazen as well. Either way, we eradicate them immediately. They are truly Scum.

I think that the people that do this basically have the same mentality as crackers, what does a cracker really gain by getting into someones box (unless they are specifically going after cc #'s which should never be stored there in the first place). I think spammers and crackers do it just for the sake of screwing people and that's it. Nothing really gained besides that.

Just my 2 cents

they are a strange breed, we have a Romanian who keeps ordering using the same email address, about 6 times in the last 2 weeks, I wrote to him and said "look save us all some time and effort and go find something else to do, it isn't going to work" next day another order :eek:

they go to the trouble of using a proxy to order, as we have Romainia banned, but still uses exactly the same email address each time - dumb or stupid or both?

Just obnoxious. We had a guy from Romania that was doing the same thing. Just curious, was his first name Rico by chance?

Romania is problematic too? I thought it was mainly Indonesia having all these problems... :confused:

Yeah, I was reading somewhere (might have been in WHT!) that Romania recently bumped Indonesia out of first place. What an honor.