First Server:
P3 1 Ghz
128 Mb Ram
40 Gb HD
60 Gb Transfer (Not Cogent CRAP)
RedHat Linux 7.1(Multi-Os, BSD, Mandrake, etc)
Price per month: 129.95
NO SETUP CHARGE!

Second Server:
P3 933 Mhz
128 Mb Ram
30 Gb HD
60 Gb Transfer (Not Cogent CRAP)
RedHat Linux 7.1(Multi-Os, BSD, Mandrake, etc)
Price per Month: 109.95
NO SETUP CHARGE!

Third Server:
P3 800 Mhz
128 Mb Ram
30 Gb HD
60 Gb Transfer (Not Cogent CRAP)
RedHat Linux 7.1(Multi-Os, BSD, Mandrake, etc)
Price per Month: 99.95
NO SETUP CHARGE!

Fourth Server
Dual P3 866
3 x 80 Gb Hd (Raid 0, or Raid 0+1)
Dual Nic
512 Mb Ram
RedHat Linux 7.1(Multi-Os, BSD, Mandrake, etc)
80 Gb transfer
Pricer per month: 229.95
NO SETUP CHARGE


All servers can be setup within the hour if needed!

Please let us know if you have any questions! Our website is http://www.totalhost.cc!

Email: sales@totalhost.cc

Not very much RAM - how much for more?

How is your bandwidth any better than a Cogent host like Rackshack or dv2? Do you have any numbers to back up the claim that you can offer faster / more reilable bandwidth than hosts who use Cogent?

128---> 256 Mb Ram 15.00 Setup Charge
128---> 512 Mb Ram 35.00 Setup Carge

The bandwidth these server will be located on routes through internap which basicly has big fiber pipes from all the major tier 1 providers making sure you and your clients get the best route to your server.

Please let us know if you have any questions.

How much per GB for bandwidth over?

I would still like to see some numbers to show that paying more really does give you better performance. Just one set of numbers doesn't really tell me much. Does anyone have an unbiased summary which compares access via cogent and non-cogent?

The menus on your site do not work with Opera so there is no way to get around with that browser.

Let me ask:

1.) Where are you located?

2.) Can you give us details of your NOC? Pictures? How many servers do you currently have?

3.) Do you have techs onsite 24/7? If not, how much time to respond?

4.) RemoteReboot?

5.) How many IP's? How much for extras?

6.) Control Panels?

7.) Are these Compaq servers?

8.) Contract? Length?

9.) Any Network Uptime Gaurantee? Details?

Originally posted by panopticon
The menus on your site do not work with Opera so there is no way to get around with that browser.

Let me ask:

1.) Where are you located?

2.) Can you give us details of your NOC? Pictures? How many servers do you currently have?

3.) Do you have techs onsite 24/7? If not, how much time to respond?

4.) RemoteReboot?

5.) How many IP's? How much for extras?

6.) Control Panels?

7.) Are these Compaq servers?

8.) Contract? Length?

9.) Any Network Uptime Gaurantee? Details?

1. Orange County, CA

2. Each server has its only ups back up system ensuring your server is up no matter if the power fails. Our whole NOC is wired with cat5e to every server and fiber between routers and switches. We currently have around 20 servers and are slowly growing and keeping our costs low to ensure we can make it through these tough economical times. We currently do not have any picture availible.

3. We have toll free support, email support, and online support availible 24/7 if your server goes down we know before you do just put it that way.

4. We will be implementing this technology shortly.

5. Each server comes with 2 IPs additional ips are availible at a $1.50 each month per ip.

6. We can install webmin at no charge other control panels are availible but at cost.

7. These are custom built high quality 1u servers.

8. No contract month to month.

9. 99.9% uptime gaurantee, when you are down you don't pay for it. At Total Host downtime is not acceptible, if it does occur we will be sure you get credited.

Bandwidth overage- 1.50 per gig.

Please let us know if you have any questions!

Good - I seem to have very bad luck with everything made by Compaq... Compaq computers just seem to crash too often for me. I saw the logo on your website and was afraid :D

The only thing which doesn't sound good is the 99% uptime gaurantee - that's pretty low considering it allows ~7.5 hours down per month - ouch!

On the other hand, I do like that there is no setup fee. That's the one thing I don't like about RackShack's plans (which I'm also considering - trying to decide between your offer, sailor's offer in this forum, and RackShack) since with RackShack's high setup fee it might be more profitable to tell a customer to take a hike if a server or network problem developed than to make them happy since the setup profit will cover 3-5 months of hosting (and since they can simply resell the server if they lose a customer).

Sorry forgot the .9 ;) ^

Please let us know if you have any questions.

We have just added a fourth server to this great pricing. This server is incredible and very very powerful for the price. Please let us know if you have any questions!

Fourth Server
Dual P3 866
3 x 80 Gb Hd (Raid 0, or Raid 0+1)
Dual Nic
512 Mb Ram
RedHat Linux 7.1(Multi-Os, BSD, Mandrake, etc)
80 Gb transfer
Pricer per month: 249.95
NO SETUP CHARGE

I have a few questions about the offer:

- Does it include VAT?

- Can I have a ip so I can ping the speed?

- Is there any possibility to check your speed (a file on the server that I can download or something).

Please define VAT.

Originally posted by TotalHst
Please define VAT.

Taxes.

I thought you american guys called it VAT :) Sorry

VAT = value added tax.
That's not applicable in the US :)

Ahhh, no, no tax on these servers.

scott2 How much per GB for bandwidth over?

I would still like to see some numbers to show that paying more really does give you better performance. Just one set of numbers doesn't really tell me much. Does anyone have an unbiased summary which compares access via cogent and non-cogent?

I'm also wondering on this one


The bandwidth these server will be located on routes through internap which basicly has big fiber pipes from all the major tier 1 providers making sure you and your clients get the best route to your server.

Cogent has a 80gbps backbone, and dual oc48 into every building, how much "bigger" are the pipes that you're using?

We have already answered this question it is a 1.50 per gig. Cogent over sells, with those connections alone how do you expect them to deliver 100 mbps to everyone for 3,000/month, it is cheap bandwidth and they have no peering to other countries.

They dont have networks into other countries, so it's not really possible for them to peer outside of the USA unless other countries ran the links to the US. Also, i didn't mean how much was it, i was referring to the second thing he asked, you didn't show any proof of how your bandwidth is "better" then cogent's. Lastly, cogen't doesen't oversell their bandwidth, even their website clearly states that, so i'm not sure why you're claiming that against them.

One thing multiple TIER 1 PROVIDERS. We get your data there fast and reliably without dropping packets.

One thing multiple TIER 1 PROVIDERS. We get your data there fast and reliably without dropping packets.Not to drive this thread off topic, but can anyone provide a summary / actual data which shows a problem with dropped packets over cogent lines...

I've heard lots of references to cogent being bad, but no data. It seems strange that if Cogent is really quantifiably worse than Tier 1 providers that it isn't easy to find a summary with lots of real numbers to back this up? Someone must have done some good research, right???

Any leads would be appreciated comparing Cogent to Tier 1 in terms of speed or problems such as those TotalHst has hinted at...

panopticon: I can pretty much sum it up for you. Cogent is the new boy in town, they have signifigantly lower prices, and as a result existing providers stand a lot to loose from cogent because of the pricing, noone can really compete against it. On average, cogent will typically have a slightly slower packet turn around, usually it takes about 80ms to get to sites on cogent from my cable modem, wheras other providers are 50-60 (not a very signifigant difference in my opinion). Cogent will not provide packet filtering and will not allow you access to upstream routers, and if you use cogent, well who knows, they're new and might go under, but that holds true to any provider now days really, so that pretty much sums up the problems with cogent, nothing signifigant in my opinion.

Originally posted by panopticon
Not to drive this thread off topic, but can anyone provide a summary / actual data which shows a problem with dropped packets over cogent lines...

If you get a program such as VisualRoute, you can conduct numerous tests yourself. What I have noticed myself is that a 10-20% packet loss on Cogent links is a fairly common thing. However, it also seems that I often get a 10-20% loss from TotalHst's, Earthlink and Level3 carriers.

I'm not suggesting this is a good or bad thing, most 'web browsers' probably wont notice it - but it may give you the 'summary/data' that you were looking for.

If you get a program such as VisualRoute, you can conduct numerous tests yourself. What I have noticed myself is that a 10-20% packet loss on Cogent links is a fairly common thing. However, it also seems that I often get a 10-20% loss from TotalHst's, Earthlink and Level3 carriers.

I'm not suggesting this is a good or bad thing, most 'web browsers' probably wont notice it - but it may give you the 'summary/data' that you were looking for.

Heh, if you get 10-20% packet loss, you'll notice it on anything you do. 30% packet loss is a maximum for many services like IRC/ICQ, etc. before you'll just not be able to remain connected. If you're getting 10-20% packet loss from cogent, or other carriers, then it's more then likely loss on your own time. If a link as 10-20% packet loss, a lot of information will come through garbled or incomplete, and webpages wouldn't finish loading, and/or images would be non existant/incomplete. I think this is something on your side, my partner paul used to have his cable drop 13-20% of packets during certain times of day (6pm-1:00 am) until his ISP fixed it, but it was terrible.

That is not the connection that our dedicated servers are on. We are in the process of switching our main site to this connection soon. But you should still not be experiencing latency, visual route actually shows the route from you to us and we cannot control what goes on in between unfortuanatly. We will be putting an ip to ping up on monday most likely so you guys can see that there is no packet loss on our network.

We have dropped all of our prices from their original! We now have a server for 99/m! Please let us know if you have any questions.