Greetings,

I was wondering if you guys allow armed people in your facility?
If so, do you allow them to carry their firearms around your facility or leave them in the front desk ? Are there any exceptions to the rule above?

One last thing, do you frisk them when entering the building ?

Thanks.


elijaH

Hmm...I know in Texas, we have a concealed carry law.

Those places that want to people to not bring them in must post a sign at the door. Funny thing is that 90% of the signs are the wrong type specified by the law so people can still bring them in.

mmmmm, armed people in the UK. No not unless they point it in your face, would probably let them in then.

The question you need to ask is a facility really secure if people besides security have firearms in it. I would be shocked if a colo allowed people to carry in firearms

Has this been a problem at your facility?

Are you talking employees or visitors?

Personally, I think physical security is highly overrated. When is the last time you heard of someone physically going into a data center and destroying a machine? I have never heard of this happening in all the time I have spent on the internet. Should there be security to make sure some bum off the street doesnt come in and rob the place? Yes, but as far as retina scanners, fingerprint scanners, etc in a datacenter, or even armed guards, I think it is way overrated. Most datacenters provide much more security than you need anyway, so I don't think 'who has retina scanners and more security than an army base' should come into the equation when choosing a data center.

Originally posted by elijah
I was wondering if you guys allow armed people in your facility?
If so, do you allow them to carry their firearms around your facility or leave them in the front desk ? Are there any exceptions to the rule above?

One last thing, do you frisk them when entering the building ?

Thanks.



What third world country are you living in. Afghanistan? :D
It must be some screwed place (excuse the language) if people carry guns.

I'ld concider moving to another country :rolleyes:

If you had a guy come up to you with a gun asking to enter your NOC would you let him? I mean if you don't he could start pointing it at you!

He may be reffering to allowing armed guards, or allowing people who are carrying concealed weapons. ( legally in USA with license )

no way... My security guards would freak...

Colo's are a neutral place. No guns

Originally posted by urk5
no way... My security guards would freak...

Colo's are a neutral place. No guns

Unless its the cops :confused:

Sounds like there are two issues here. First, you need to know the law in your area regarding this. Depending on where you are, you may or may not have the right to frisk people and/or not allow firearms. The second is an ethical question you must answer yourself. This is the question I believe you are asking here.

Personally, assuming you are following the proper methods in your location, I would not allow my employees to have any guns on location. My official policy would be no firearms. But, I would probably not actually frisk people.

Originally posted by jw
Personally, I think physical security is highly overrated. When is the last time you heard of someone physically going into a data center and destroying a machine? I have never heard of this happening in all the time I have spent on the internet. Should there be security to make sure some bum off the street doesnt come in and rob the place? Yes, but as far as retina scanners, fingerprint scanners, etc in a datacenter, or even armed guards, I think it is way overrated. Most datacenters provide much more security than you need anyway, so I don't think 'who has retina scanners and more security than an army base' should come into the equation when choosing a data center.


What about the people like ServerVault who host servers for the government? Or what about big time sites with credit card information? I mean, we all hear about business crime, where one business trys to destroy another business. What better way to take down a business like Amazon or Paypal than to break into their data center, take their servers, then run. I bet if you had acouple million, and you were a competitor of Paypal's, then you may think of doing that. Just think about it, its not hard to realize why such high security is needed.


Jim

Originally posted by jw
Personally, I think physical security is highly overrated. When is the last time you heard of someone physically going into a data center and destroying a machine?

If you're a terrorist, you could do much more damage by blowing up a few carefully chosen datacenters than you could possibly do by collapsing the World Trade Center towers.

Originally posted by cperciva


If you're a terrorist, you could do much more damage by blowing up a few carefully chosen datacenters than you could possibly do by collapsing the World Trade Center towers.

But which one has been done?

Also, I have never seen the government post here, so my comment wasn't targeted toward the government. Second, I would hope that credit card numbers aren't stored on computers connected to the internet. We all know where that leads to. And third...jimb...

Should there be security to make sure some bum off the street doesnt come in and rob the place? Yes

I think most that post on their sites that they have armed guards do it so the poor person they ripped off wont come to the NOC lol...

Originally posted by cperciva


If you're a terrorist, you could do much more damage by blowing up a few carefully chosen datacenters than you could possibly do by collapsing the World Trade Center towers.

Yes but what good is a regular gun if a plane is coming towards your datacenter? Assuming you even have time to react...

Greetings,

Thank you for all your replies and insights regarding this issue.

@PCInformation:
Some of our clients and friends are LEO's - law enforcement officers, gun clubs. Basically, related to the shooting sports and most of them carry a weapon that is what I was concerned about initially but we will allow them to do whatever they want. After all they are our customers and customers are always right.

Thanks again.


elijaH out :)

Originally posted by elijah
we will allow them to do whatever they want. After all they are our customers and customers are always right.

Umm... the 9/11 hijackers were customers of the airlines on which they were travelling, you know.

I know that our colocation place's building doesn't even allowed you to take anything in unless its registered (boxes as well).

Or you must be met at the front door by someone.

Seems like a good idea but if they are registered I wouldn't see a big deal of letting them in unless they came in pointing it at you :eek:

Originally posted by cperciva


Umm... the 9/11 hijackers were customers of the airlines on which they were travelling, you know.



Good, but sad point....


Jim

There should be no guns allowed anywhere, especialy in places of data security. They should employ adequate alternative protection, automated and active where needed.

Technology available now does not need guns to protect it.

We do not need guns, we need a WORLDWIDE BAN ON GUNS!

Originally posted by cheesysticks
. . . . . . We do not need guns, we need a WORLDWIDE BAN ON GUNS! Yeh. Sure.

Then it'd be easy to tell the who the bad guys are.

They'd be the ones with the guns.:rolleyes:

Yes but what good is a regular gun if a plane is coming towards your datacenter? Assuming you even have time to react...

Well it would be a lot easier for a terroist to come into a dc with a gun shoot a few generators and routers then to hijak a plain and crash it into a building.

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