Myqth (http://www.myqth.com)

They seem to offer an excellent plan that I could not pass up:

500MB space
30 gb transfer
PHP/MySQL

the main things I need. But I am not sure about the server specs (mainly because I have no experience here):

AMD Duron 1000MHz 1GB RAM running Redhat Linux 7.1, Apache Web Server and Ensim Server Appliance

All this for $50/yr.

Is this good? I need more experienced input before I make this kind of commitment.

Thank you.

Send them an email and ask them how they are able to provide such a service at such a low price and post their response here.

50$ would not even cover the costs if it was monthly!

This is from their FAQ:

Why is this so cheap?

The biggest costs in web hosting are bandwidth and system maintenance (staff costs). By putting fewer sites per server we improve reliability. This reduces staff costs, because systems don't break down. We source bandwidth very cheaply by buying in bulk to reduce this cost to the business.

ROFL

That must be the first time I've seen someone claim to reduce costs by putting fewer sites on each server.

Originally posted by Sain Cai
We source bandwidth very cheaply by buying in bulk to reduce this cost to the business.

This answers the burning question: "Who owns the Internet?"

They must have bought it from Al Gore. Guess he needed the money when he left office. :D

it certainly does seem a little cheap..

It seems this deal may not be as good as it sounds.

What questions should I email them, about their service?

uptime gaurentees etc...

Originally posted by Sain Cai
This is from their FAQ:

Why is this so cheap?

The biggest costs in web hosting are bandwidth and system maintenance (staff costs). By putting fewer sites per server we improve reliability. This reduces staff costs, because systems don't break down. We source bandwidth very cheaply by buying in bulk to reduce this cost to the business.


:eek: By putting fewer sites per server we improve reliability. This reduces staff costs? What the? :rolleyes: That is the biggest ....err...crack of crack i heard in a while.

Yes. Putting fewer sites on a server improves reliability, but that means you need more servers. Heck. You even need more staff to manage all those extra servers. Thus, cost increase..not decrease.

Seems like someone failed ecom101.

LoL. ...If it looks too good to be true. It most likely is.

Certainly in this case. ;)

Originally posted by epgs
uptime gaurentees etc...

Unfortunately I would need specific questions. I have never had a paid hoster, so this is my first (duh :D ).

I am extremely ignorant when it comes to what I need, server specs, etc.

16 core-02-ge-0-3-1.dlfw.twtelecom.net (207.67.26.249) 42.455 ms
17 dist-01-so-0-0-0.hsto.twtelecom.net (168.215.53.62) 47.225 ms
18 66.162.210.250 (66.162.210.250) 47.658 ms
19 66.162.210.2 (66.162.210.2) 47.998 ms
20 tayhou-223-36.ev1.net (207.218.223.36) 53.346 ms
21 64.246.11.9 (64.246.11.9) 50.595 ms



That might be alittle interesting for you :)

Looks like they have serves with RackShack, but I dont see how they could support 30 GIG of bandwidth for each one of their sites. Looks like a massive oversale.


Jim

:eek:

I have no clue what that was/is :)

Conclusio: forget them.
I would not go with a host which is not able to make a profit from me. 12x30 GB = 360 GB, at 50$ per year that's 0,14 $ per GB.
Even if they bought traffic in huge amounts it will cost them far more than that, not counting servers, staff, electricity, cooling,.....

Come on guys! Don't be so hard on them. For the record: I don't know them and I don't endorse them, but it is obvious that they can provide services for that price. They are with Rackshack.net. They are simply passing on the savings the get from Rackshack on to their customers.

whois whois.arin.net 64.246.11.9:

Everyones Internet, Inc. (NETBLK-EVRY-BLK-9)
2600 Southwest Frwy., Suite 500
Houston, TX 77098
US

Netname: EVRY-BLK-9
Netblock: 64.246.0.0 - 64.246.15.255
Maintainer: EVRY

Coordinator:
Williams, Randy (RW172-ARIN) admin@ev1.net
(713) 400-5400 x255

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

NS1.EV1.NET 216.88.76.6
NS2.EV1.NET 216.88.77.7

ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

Record last updated on 05-Oct-2001.
Database last updated on 12-Feb-2002 19:56:22 EDT.

The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's.
Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related
Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information.


I don't think it is fair to judge a host for their prices. ;)

I emailed them with a couple questions stated here.

They buy bandwidth at a higher price, they assume people will not use the full amount.

They do not have a guaranteed uptime, but stated they haven't been down.

just remember,
When you purchase a deal like that, you will most likely be back here soon posting: "help, I need a new host"...........etc.......

but I guess 50 bucks aint all that much anyway, so they could be worth trying.....

You all know this is run by GordonH (member here, runs hostroute.com and nameroute.com), eh? Link to profile: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/member.php?s=&action=getinfo&userid=366

Didn't know that. He seems to be a very nice guy. I have been in several threads with him :)

OK It seems I will not go with them.

Could I get your expert opinions on www.Phenominet.com?

I am on a limited budget, so I cannot expect perfect service. I was looking at the Tier 1 service, and I saw they were decent by the thread about best hosters or something (should be at the top of this forum also)

I thank you for past and future advice.

"Unlimited" :D

Yeah :)

I did read the 'Unlimited' usage policy on their site. I will never need that kind of BW (although I could probably rack up some decent numbers :D), but I have been told I would need bout 10gb for my php based forum and site.

Again I am on a limited budget, I have increased my minimum to $50/yr, I can't go higher then that :(

My last hoster ishttp://www.myacen.com/.

Anything good here?

I will also post in the webhosting request forum on my upgraded allotment.

Please feel free to PM me with any info on the hosters that may respond.

Here's the finances:


200 sites per server.

Income per server per year = $9600

Costs per server per year = $1700

Which leaves $7900 to cover support, marketing, additional bandwidth and make a profit.

As we already have support and marketing in place the on-cost of adding a few extra accounts is minimal.

I have to say that we have no servers on this brand doing more than 100GB per month but anything is possible and we have plenty of leeway.
We have several customers using 20 - 30GB per month.

All I can say is its making substantial amounts of money and there have been no reliability issues at all.

The thing to remember is that Hostroute is quite a wide based business now with income from all sorts of sources. As long as each bit is making at least 30% real profit each month I am a happy man.

We are just investing in some very expensive Windows 2000 and SQL server equipment for our UK hosting service.
The UK market is very Windows orientated.
Its all about responding to different markets with products that appeal to them.

I make no apologies for offering a cheap brand.
As long as it makes a profit it will be around (as it has been for nearly 18 months already).

Gordon

Its really a crap shoot for them. They are just gambling on the fact that most people will never use either the alloted disk space as well as the bandwidth they provide. Double edged sword in advertising in my opinion. Great attention getter for the new webmaster as well as suspicious news groups. As long as they dont say "Unlimited Bandwidth" - they may be just fine.

$50 for 30GB worth of bandwith .. that's $20 gross profit right there, even if the site uses all 30GB. You can get bandwidth for $1/GB.

That is 50/yr not 50/mo.

Anyway, I am also concidering the following:

Softerweb
Bubblehost
iwebhub

Any info on these would be appreciated also :)

Its $50/yr? Then there's no way - it's definitely a crock.

Sain Cai a word of advice for you:

I used to be like you... Always looking for the host that provides 10GB of transfer for under 6 bucks, I've tried all of them, and In conclusion I must say that it's not worth it. The support sucks, servers are slow due to overcrowding, always down, etc...

Now for my advice: Spend the extra few dollars and purchase an account from a reputable host, if not you'll get burned, just like me.

Hope I helped a little ;)

AMEN 311

hehe :D

Originally posted by Devorius
Its $50/yr? Then there's no way - it's definitely a crock.

While GordonH is obviously a competitor of Hostit365 (us), I'd just like to say he runs his business very professionally, and wouldn't be offering this if he was not prepared to stand behind it and keep to his bandwidth promise. :)

Thats the point I was making.
Ultimately if it becomes a loser we will just have to bite the bullet and pay out to keep it going.

A couple of years ago we were doing resold Windows NT plans which ended up making a loss.
We still have 20+ customers on those plans and have never cut them off.

Of course, we run more expensive services which will always be more popular.

Its horses for courses really.
But there is a market for cheap hosting and I coudn't see any reason why we shouldn't benefit from it provided we could secure the resurces cheaply enough to make it profitable.

The last straw was seeing how many customers we were losing to very cheap hosts.
By doing this we pick up others at the bottom end of the market to take their place.
Its like selling airline tickets.
There is no way the £9 ticket I got to London made a profit but ti helped fill the plane.


Gordon