http://www.mediatemple.net/services/web_hosting/

now look at:

http://www.eryxma.com/services.shtml

Sad isn't it :eek:

If you look at the bottom ...the copyright. Reminds me at something.

Which is? :)

Dont you see?

Odsiee Corp

Read carefuly :D

Direct rip off.

Haven't heard the name 'Shang' for a long time.

Dunno what that really means. Just know this, a reliable source told me that eryxma (err?? weird name) is run by Shang....

and waht's worse? They display BBB (Better Business Bureau) logo

That's fraud too

OH so it is shang! :) lol

Shang is well known here....Do a search...

Originally posted by Coran
Shang is well known here....Do a search...

Yeah.

http://www.odisee.net

He's back? Thats his site? :eek: :eek: :eek:

Shoot me now......Nice move

I posted on their forums so their customers can also see. I pointed them to this link at WHT

We just gonna have to route you out like the other vermin...Not a large deal...

You're never going to guess where OdiSee and some other sites are hosted. Watch out for these:

3rdwatch.net
avanzadomm.com
carbon-solutions.com
glexicon.com
magikalbeginnings.com
odisee.net
odisee.com.mx
portertx.net

Time to back up evidence and hit the button. :rolleyes:

Wow this thread is spreading like wild fire! :rolleyes:

We already know who you really are. We are just waiting for you to make one or two more FATAL errors.

With your ego, it won't be long.

Go for it! Make Our Day.

Originally posted by Coran
We already know who you really are. We are just waiting for you to make one or two more FATAL errors.

With your ego, it won't be long.

Go for it! Make Our Day.

I think i already made his day ...at least with his 'corporate' website & co.

Kiwi, agreed... Corporate website my a**

lol, shangs probably reading this right now :)

Hello WebHostingTalk Members...

Just as I responded in my board/forum.

---------
I haven't seen this before,

Our webdesigner who helped us designed this was from Johnson Lee from Killowatt Design - http://www.kilowattdesign.com/ . I have e-mailed him about what has happened and I will make sure this gets fixed ASAP, with a brief explanation from him on what this person has done, I haven't recieved a reply from this person yet.

Eryxma Networks is a subsidiary of OdiSee Coporation which is owned by Robert H.. I own Eryxma Networks, but shared with OdiSee.

I do not know anyone by the person they go with, "Shang." But doing a search in webhostingtalk.com it seems they have a pertty steep database about this person. I have called Robert and he tells me this person has worked before for him, but the results wasn't good. I have never met this guy nor am I affiliated with him. Me, Joseph "Joe" Shiekron, because we have been in buisness in offering DSL and Dial up services in North Houston and Kingwood TX, we are registered with the BBB of Houston, and registered with and part of Chang Engineering Enterprises located in Oklahoma.

Our 1.2 million dollar (well after all costs) facility was planned to be finished this year in this month, but it still has some rebuilding to be done that is planned to be finished within 1-3 months.

I have no idea, what webhostingtalk.com members have to imply on my company, but I will try to get all this straight with everyone.
---------

I do not know much about the topic of Shang, not yet, but trying to read all these post/threads to figure this out. Our webdesigner has been called and well its 12:12AM right now, and I believe this is going to be a long night, I have called up my legal consultant and Robert about what is all this that is going on. But on what I say, speak, or write about I say it with true honesty, if there is any questions about this matter please ask, I want to get this resolved as much as I can, in the meanwhile I am trying to learn the whole situation.

Ok, the waters are muddied....Who is Who here?

And who the F*** is ^Kyo?

Owner of OdiSee Coporation.
Robert Hinojosa

Owner of Eryxma Networks
Joseph Shiekron
(I don't like my first name, so I often go by "Joe")

Shang? :confused:
Only thing I have digged up is he started a buisness called TacidBlue and another called TacidHost, and I see like 20 others? :confused:

Originally posted by Coran
And who the F*** is ^Kyo?

What exactly do you mean by that? :eek:

What I mean by it is that you seem to be a "shang supporter". Or, could you be changing your mind???

what the heck do you mean buddy? when did I support shang? where in my posts is it implied that I 'support' shang? i dont even know him and i couldn't care less for him lol.

I can't read all those post about him, but I believe I got a nice summary of him, and I agree with you ^Kyo, I don't really could give a damm about him, but the only thing that matters to me right now is trying to get a response from the webdesigner that helped us, well I never got to pay him anything though for his help, but right now doesn't seem to me like I consider him "helping" me.

I am reconsidering web designers, e-mailed pixelbrick.com to see what they can cook us up with...

Any other webdesigners? I can pay up to 7 grand, but I believe pixelbrick seems pertty good for its price being only from 2000-4500. :)

I have to go to college tomorrow and if there is any other questions about this please let me know. I would be happy to answer them in any best way I can.

Originally posted by E-Shiekron
Owner of OdiSee Coporation.
Robert Hinojosa

Owner of Eryxma Networks
Joseph Shiekron
(I don't like my first name, so I often go by "Joe")

Shang? :confused:
Only thing I have digged up is he started a buisness called TacidBlue and another called TacidHost, and I see like 20 others? :confused:

All the same guy, multiple names. Robert Hinojosa is his real name, though ...the credit card is valid.

Kiwi, I don't understand, "All the same guy"?

Robert Hinojosa being me? Hmm no.

Me being Shang, nope again.

If there was a way to prove myself to you, I could go ahead and order a product from your website, but that would be way too ridiculous.

I have a few concerns...

Joe, you seem to really be running a straight business...but that's what scares me in light of these accusations.

I've done a little digging, and there are a few things I'd like addressed...

- How come yearly billing only? No monthly?
- tacidhost.com and eryxma.com are both registered by the same relatively unknown registrar (go daddy software, http://registrar.godaddy.com)...
- The Houston BBB has no record of any company matching Eryxma or Odisee. Maybe online database lag, maybe not...
- Email headers identify your computer name is "shang1sfnctwsx" - that's just a LITTLE too coincidental...
- Why is your netblock owner "Everyone's Internet"? Everyone's Internet IS located in Houston. THEIR BBB report is pretty bad. Over 120 complaints since 1995, 24 of which are unresolved.
http://dell.hurdmanivr.com/hous/common.html?location=/home/common/www/mis67/report.php&bureau=hous&compid=23000212
- It struck me as odd, but after you requested a PGP encrypted message, your public key was nowhere to be found on the PGP keyservers...

[whois.networksolutions.com]
The Data in Network Solutions' WHOIS database is provided by Network
Solutions for information purposes, and to assist persons in obtaining
information about or related to a domain name registration record.
Network Solutions does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a
WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this Data only for lawful
purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this Data to:
(1) allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass
unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via e-mail
(spam); or (2) enable high volume, automated, electronic processes
that apply to Network Solutions (or its systems). Network Solutions
reserves the right to modify these terms at any time. By submitting
this query, you agree to abide by this policy.

ODISEE:

[cheald@phoenix cheald]$ whois odisee.net
[whois.crsnic.net]

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: ODISEE.NET
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS1.CARBON-SOLUTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.CARBON-SOLUTIONS.COM
Updated Date: 19-jan-2002


>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:09:22 EST <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.


[whois.godaddy.com]
The data contained in Go Daddy Software, Inc.'s WHOIS database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose, including, but not
limited to, allowing or making possible dissemination or
collection of this data in part or in its entirety for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
solicitations, is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of Go Daddy Software, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,
you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.

Registrant:
OdiSee Corporation
P.O. Box 347
Porter, Texas 77365
United States

Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ODISEE.NET
Created on: 22-Sep-00
Expires on: 22-Sep-02
Last Updated on: 18-Jan-02

Administrative Contact:
Manager, Zone dom@odisee.net
OdiSee Corporation
P.O. Box 347
Porter, Texas 77365
United States
281 354 4663 Fax -- 281 354 7099
Technical Contact:
Manager, Zone dom@odisee.net
OdiSee Corporation
P.O. Box 347
Porter, Texas 77365
United States
281 354 4663 Fax -- 281 354 7099

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.CARBON-SOLUTIONS.COM
NS2.CARBON-SOLUTIONS.COM

[cheald@phoenix cheald]$ whois eryxma.com
[whois.crsnic.net]

Whois Server Version 1.3

Domain names in the .com, .net, and .org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.

Domain Name: ERYXMA.COM
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.
Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
Name Server: NS2.ERYXMA.COM
Name Server: NS.ERYXMA.COM
Updated Date: 24-jan-2002


>>> Last update of whois database: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 17:09:22 EST <<<

The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .ORG, .EDU domains and
Registrars.


[whois.godaddy.com]
The data contained in Go Daddy Software, Inc.'s WHOIS database,
while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This
information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
Any use of this data for any other purpose, including, but not
limited to, allowing or making possible dissemination or
collection of this data in part or in its entirety for any
purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
solicitations, is expressly forbidden without the prior written
permission of Go Daddy Software, Inc. By submitting an inquiry,
you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.

Registrant:
Eryxma Networks
OdiSee Corporation
P.O. Box 347
North Houston, Texas 77365-0347
United States

Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ERYXMA.COM
Created on: 02-Oct-01
Expires on: 02-Oct-02
Last Updated on: 24-Jan-02

Administrative Contact:
Manager, Zone dom@odisee.net
OdiSee Corporation
P.O. Box 347
North Houston, Texas 77365-0347
United States
(281) 354-4663
Technical Contact:
Networks, Eryxma info@eryxma.net
OdiSee Corporation
P.O. Box 347
North Houston, Texas 77365-0347
United States
(281) 354-4663

Domain servers in listed order:
NS.ERYXMA.COM
NS2.ERYXMA.COM

- Same PO Box! Different cities, same zip. Casual observer will think they're different addresses, but the ZIP code makes sure it's routed to the same box. Eryxma really can't be only a subset of Odisee if they're using the same PO Box...
- Searches for Odisee and Eryxma on various directories yield nothing. Reverse lookups on various contact info provided yields nothing. Why?

I imagine there's more if I dig far enough...

Caveat emptor, hmm?

Originally posted by Antiarc
- tacidhost.com and eryxma.com are both registered by the same relatively unknown registrar (go daddy software, http://registrar.godaddy.com)...
- Why is your netblock owner "Everyone's Internet"?
Just a couple of points. While godaddy might not be known to you, they are an ICANN accredited registrar, which is (I'd consider) very well known in general. Not sure what this has to do with anything.

Everyone's Internet is the parent company of Rackshack.net (search forum for tons of info on them), so they probably lease servers from Rackshack.

The computer name is interesting, but other than that I don't really have an opinion nor comment about this.

I just found that curious. I conduct quite a few WHOIS queries every day, and have never before now come across GoDaddy. What struck me as odd is that both are registered through them. I don't doubt they're a valid and on-the-level registrar.

Whois reveals that GoDaddy is acutally based some 6 miles from my residence. Easy enough to go talk to them.

GoDaddy isnt half bad, i use them all the time, them and stargateinc.

Alright, alright. I concede the registrar.

The email headers are still a bit too close to home, though...

One thing I did notice, though...

[cheald@phoenix cheald]$ whois tacidblue.com
...
Name Server: NS1.LIVEDNS.CO.UK
Name Server: NS2.LIVEDNS.CO.UK
...

TacidBlue(dot)Com
5476 Counterbridge
Houston, TX 77365
US

[ch: Registrar: BULKREGISTER.COM, INC ]
Domain Name: TACIDBLUE.COM

Administrative Contact:
Joe Shang shang2k@email.msn.com
TacidBlue(dot)Com
5476 Counterbridge
Houston, TX 77365
US
Phone- 2813544166
Fax-
-----------------------------------------------
[cheald@phoenix cheald]$ whois glexicon.com
...
Name Server: NS1.CARBON-SOLUTIONS.COM
Name Server: NS2.CARBON-SOLUTIONS.COM
...
Registrant:
Odisee Corporation
Glexicon(dot)Com
P.O. Box 347
Porter, Texas 77365
United States

Registrar: Go Daddy Software (http://registrar.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: GLEXICON.COM
Created on: 08-Sep-01
Expires on: 08-Sep-02
Last Updated on: 01-Nov-01

Administrative Contact:
Web Services, Glexicon info@glexicon.com
OdiSee Corporation
P.O. Box 347
Porter, Texas 77365
United States
281 354 4663


The "XXX(dot)Com" is something of a oddity that I don't remember seeing elsewhere. Both the capitalized C, as well as the (dot) are stylistic signatures...something of a digital "handwriting analysis", perhaps? The fact that the domains were registered with different registrars indicates that it's not a registrar-concocted similarity. Other GoDaddy registered domains don't follow that convention. Could indicate the same registering party...

I'm just kinda anxious to uncover the truth. I signed up for an account with Eryxma recently, and don't want to get stung.

shang is the coolest man. he made a mistake and he is trying to make a comeback. go shang!! shang all the way!!! how much you wanna bet that he has alztheimers and doesnt remember the past. wouldnt that be funny?

You know guys this joint is funner than watching,
AS THE WORLD TURNS.


Where the he!! did my popcorn go :(

Hey I'm new here, but I was thinkin of hosting with eryxma.com but it seems like their site is down. side effie of what ya'll been talkin about???

Anyway, I'm just wondering what's goin down with this company cause I"m realy starting to have cold feet.

Originally posted by Scragg
shang is the coolest man. he made a mistake and he is trying to make a comeback. go shang!! shang all the way!!! how much you wanna bet that he has alztheimers and doesnt remember the past. wouldnt that be funny?

I'm sure the guys at instabill feel the same way.

Where is E-Shiekron no more explanations huh?

His AIM ID is: Shiekron, have fun ;)

I was on Rackshack chat about two weeks ago, and there was a user online there named Shang. (Remember that Rackshack's parent co. is Houston-based ev1.net.)

That's not proof of anything, just another interesting coincidence.

Also, North Houston and Kingwood is right around where this Shang guy used to live back in the Tacid days. Funny coincidence that this guy's doing business in the same place.

Also an interesting coincidence that Shang's first name is Josuee? And, this guy goes by Joe because he doesn't like his first name?

A lot of interesting coincidences.

It definately is him, too many coincidences like this aren't possible :D

SHANG ALL THE WAY BABY!

SHANG MAY HAVE MADE PAST MISTAKES, BUT EVERYONE MUST ADMIT THAT HE HAD AN EMPIRE GOING.......THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS LARGE MESSAGE FORUM!!!!!!!

Originally posted by anonymous098
SHANG ALL THE WAY BABY!

SHANG MAY HAVE MADE PAST MISTAKES, BUT EVERYONE MUST ADMIT THAT HE HAD AN EMPIRE GOING.......THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS LARGE MESSAGE FORUM!!!!!!!

Umm.. Maybe there is some way to impliment an idiot test prior to registering here at WHT.. Seems to be ablot of newbies with ALOT to talk about latley.

I promised myself after editor started the first thread (which btw is still the longest/most viewed/most replied to thread) i wouldn't get involved in "shang" again.

my first piece of evidence:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18220&perpage=15&pagenumber=6&highlight=korean+spanish+english#post138825

pulled from an OLD thread

http://board.eryxma.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4&highlight=korean+english+spanish#post8

pulled from eryxma's boards

Is it a coincidence that "shiekron" and "shang" know the same 3 languages?

what id on't get is why the hell are you guys making a big deal about it.

you people never stop looking for someone to jump on, do you?

oh well, it seems as if this is a favorite pastime of you all's so i guess i'll leave you alone (for the most part), but now you're invading on my turf...

i am Robert Hinojosa and yes... the AmEx card is valid Marc. that's because i am NOT shang. such an insinutation will end you up in court (facing my lawyers: Mr. Bivin and Mr. McNamara of Houston).

i care not that you've deleted my account at MCHOST, for i planned on switching anyway... i thank you friend. i don't know why i'm posting here though... OdiSee is not a hosting company and has no plans to be a public web hosting service any time in the near future.

yes, Eryxma is an actual subsidiary of OdiSee (suprise suprise!) and the first time i registered eryxma.net was in 97/98 (wow, how interesting!). i felt it would be advantageous to outsource it for something, and Joe came along and i let him use the domain... what he's done with it is beyond me, i only visit from time to time and collect rent.

i think it's time you all found another thread...

farewall to all... - Robert

^^^^^ and the signature is for promotion ;)

Originally posted by bizee
what id on't get is why the hell are you guys making a big deal about it. Simply put, it's a credibility issue.

From what I understand, Shang screwed up big-time last summer, and left a slew of people in the lurch when he had his webhosting business shut down. There were some serious issues raised about people getting screwed not only out of their service, but also out of their money. Some of these issues were resolved, but even if his mistakes were unintentional (and really, what mistakes aren't?), the stories that emerged painted a very unprofessional picture of how Shang handled the situation.

Why do we care? Because frankly, it's really frickin' easy to hang out a shingle in this business and start taking orders -- with very little account for professionalism. I, like many others on this forum, have been screwed by unscrupulous businesses, to my own loss of time and money. It is our responsibility in this free world to be vigilant against those who may screw us.

If any of this scrutiny pisses anyone off, suck it up. If this new company is legit, then let them establish their reputation on their merits. If they're worth their salt, they'll overcome the naysayers.

Keeping a close eye on things is a big deal. Precisely because it is for everyone's good in the end.

Originally posted by akashd
I promised myself after editor started the first thread (which btw is still the longest/most viewed/most replied to thread) i wouldn't get involved in "shang" again.

my first piece of evidence:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18220&perpage=15&pagenumber=6&highlight=korean+spanish+english#post138825

pulled from an OLD thread

http://board.eryxma.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=4&highlight=korean+english+spanish#post8

pulled from eryxma's boards

Is it a coincidence that "shiekron" and "shang" know the same 3 languages?

He DOESN'T know spanish. :rolleyes:
This looks to me like an altavista translation :D

Originally posted by microsol


He DOESN'T know spanish. :rolleyes:
This looks to me like an altavista translation :D

I'm just going by what's in the message boards.....

In any case e-mail me if you want to hear me rant :D - i'll send ya some stuff from home

I wanna be productive at work

edited to make sense