Hey,
I am starting up a hosting company with a reseller package.
I have a bit of excess cash - $60 to be exact - and I was wondering whether I should fork out on some software such as phpmanager or pay for a design for my site.

I currently have this design for my site: http://209.120.142.180/~vforest/index2.html

Going on the basis of my current design and budget please recommend what you think I should do ;)

Thanks,
Tom

I'd go with the design, I've looked at the phpManager code, and I'm thinking about not using it, he needs to make alot of changes on how things are stored, an setup......


You can get free help desk solutions, which I think are better than phpManager...

Hi,

We will soon be releasing an admin cp update that will eliminate any of the current setup tasks.

This will be setup via a control panel when you login, making it even easier to install and add/edit your plans.

We are also modularising (Is that a word?) the file structure, thus making it even easier to add updates and giving you the choice of whether to update or not. This would also make it easier for those that customise the phpManager code to their own preference.

Regards,

Locutus

You also need to work on templating the software... You claim it to be template driven, but I look in /index.php and see html all over the place, same with many other files....

Your drawing data from WHM, which changes all the time, requiring updates. Most of the data being called by WHM is accessable by just reading the correct file.. Such as client stats...

One huge thing you need to fix is /phpManager/host.php, you keep the WHM password in plain text right there, a password that allows you to create/modify/delete passwords, thats crazy... I'm sure your looking for a better way of doing things, but this is just plain insecure...


Note, I haven't even installed the software, I'm getting all my opions from looking at the source....

Hi,

The html in the php files are there because they are not particularly relevant to the skinning of the scripts i.e They are just simple text messages such as "Please enter your username" etc.

Yes, phpManager draws details from WHM. I could simply just access the file straight from WHM, but then it wouldn't exactly fit in with the layout of phpManager now would it?

As for host.php, this is a file stored in your root directory, not your web directory.

Just out of curiosity, have you purchased a phpManager license? If so, please can you post these comments on our forum. If not, you shouldn't even have a copy of the scripts.

I have a copy, full and legit.... Haven't put it to use.....
But how nice of you to assume that I'm pirating it..

Actually, the host.php isn't a web dir problem, its that any other user on the system could view it..... Getting your WHM password, and do what they wish....

And for formating the pages, it'd be faster to grab the data outa the file and make it look how you want, than updating every few days when WHM changes....

I can see including little things like < br > in a php file, but when you have multiple tables just being setup in the php files, if you want to change how it looks, you will have to go diving into the files, alot of hassle, vBulletin's template system I would have to think best as an example...

Since my original post was not seeking something fixed, or asking for help, no real reason to post on your forum, I've given my thoughts on this, and the security of your product. Good luck with your project...

and that puts us all nicely back onto the topic of....
design or a script such as phpmanager ;)

Personal point: phpmanager provides everything that I will need and at a very decent price (I have a discount cos of host or something :P) so whether the programming behind it is shabby or not doesn't particulary bother me... although it probally should :P

Yeah, sorry about the thread going kinda off.... But some might find it informative.....


The design above was nice, but had alot of white space around it, I'm one of those people that likes to use as much viewable space as possible.....

Hi,

I am not saying that you are pirating it, but there is no way to verify if you are a legit user via this forum, that is why I kindly asked that you posted on our forum instead. Also, take a look at your name ;) hehe.

The password questions have been discussed before and encryption changes are being implemented. Unfortunately, all software running on shared servers share this risk, not just with phpManager. This being one of the reasons I am planning on offering a hosted solution to phpManager in addition to the standalone scripts.

As for the html in the php files, I do understand where you are coming from, but about 95% of our users use the themes provided as standard :D Those that don't only really edit the menu and header.

For those that wish to customise the code entirely, I am always available to help, even in the weirdest hours (I am in the UK, not the US), as our current users already know :D

I do appreciate any comments, and I was not implying that you were pirating, please don't get the wrong idea. All comments are taken seriously, the reason why phpManager has been so successful. Infact, its been so successful in such a short amount of time that I require additions to the current team, so if there is anyone that is good with php, mySQL and dHTML and are interested in working on this project, please give me a buzz ;)

Okay, to finalise things, and to get back more to the topic, I would just like to say to Ermmm_Hi that ProHacker was correct in saying that you should go for a site design. First impression is important, and once you have clients, you will always have the time to find a product suitable for your needs. Don't just limit yourself to one product :)

Regards,

Locutus