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EzaRiah
02-12-2002, 11:43 AM
Hi all,

How does one host servers at the same or different NOCs under the same company umbrella?

I understand if you have one server you setup nameservers, administer domains, etc. But what about when you've outgrown the one server and have to add a server or two?

EzaRiah

RackMy.com
02-12-2002, 11:57 AM
You just add a new server. I am not sure about your question. Are you asking what do you do after you grow out of one server?

allan
02-12-2002, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by EzaRiah

How does one host servers at the same or different NOCs under the same company umbrella?


Are you talking about 3 or 4 servers in different locations, but all containing content for one domain (e.g. www.example.com)?

If so, then you would use a global server load balancing solution. You put the servers in the various data centers along with a load balancer/pair of load balancers. In your master zone file for example.com you have a cname that points www.example.com to www.gslb.example.com. You then create three A records pointing to the IP Address of the load balancers in the data centers:

ns1gslb.example.com data center 1 IP Address
ns2gslb.example.com data center 2 IP Address
ns3gslb.example.com data center 3 IP Address
...etc....

in the master zone file map the NS records for gslb.example.com to those three A records:

gslb.example.com IN NS ns1gslb.example.com
gslb.example.com IN NS ns2gslb.example.com
gslb.example.com IN NS ns3gslb.example.com

Setup your load balancing as usual, and your visitors will now rotate through the three data centers is a GSLB enabled fashion.

EzaRiah
02-12-2002, 12:34 PM
RackMy:

Yes. What do you do after you outgrow the first server?

uuallan:

No not load balancing. Say I find a great deal on a server from NOC #1, lease it and then NOC #2 has a great server deal and I then lease theirs, etc.

DigitalXWeb
02-12-2002, 12:43 PM
Can you clarify a little better what you mean?? Are you asking in regards to DNS, Administration or something else?? Your question was pretty broad if can narrow it down a bit I am postitive someone can answer your question.

WildWayz
02-12-2002, 12:46 PM
Eza means this..

How many of you do this...

You get a dedicated server at X
You need another dedicated server later on - do you then go and get another one at X or look for a special offer from Y and get one there?
etc

James

EzaRiah
02-12-2002, 12:56 PM
Yes, how do you perform DNS and administer across different networks, NOCs?

I see on here that providers have multiple servers at different NOCs and am curious how they administer different servers at different locations?

I know it seems I'm as dumb as a box of rocks... but when you don't know how to ask the correct question.

microsol
02-12-2002, 01:29 PM
I think you miss the point. It doesn't really matter in which NOC you have your server(s) colocated/rented.
You would administer server 2 in NOC2 exactly the same way you do with server1 at NOC1.

allan
02-12-2002, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by EzaRiah

I know it seems I'm as dumb as a box of rocks... but when you don't know how to ask the correct question.

Nah, turnips maybe, but not rocks :D. Seriously, you can administer servers in multiple NOCs the same way as you administer a single server. For domains, you can create entries in zone files that are on different networks, and you can assign space, and sites to different servers from a single location -- even if those servers are on different networks.

It does require better customer tracking so you know which customer is on which server in which data center, but if you have a good system setup for a single server, it should allow you to grow.

DigitalXWeb
02-12-2002, 02:20 PM
To add to the above, if you are using a commercial Control Panel, some of these will allow you to control servers, no matter where they are located, from one single central server that you choose, so you dont have to login to each seperate one unless that is what you really want to do.

This is not a stupid question, we just needed a bit more info as to what you were looking for in regards to an answer so we could help you out :)..

My opinion is the only stupid question is the one not asked!! Well most of the time :D

Walter
02-12-2002, 05:28 PM
Using the cheapest current promotional offer for a server...
Hm. I wonder how you choose your provider. Only by price? Or are there other concerns like good support, network,....

EzaRiah
02-12-2002, 06:53 PM
Not by price alone. That would not be very prudent.
Price/budget always plays a leading row.

Walter
02-12-2002, 06:57 PM
Was not ment offensive.
I just wanted to express my concerns. I would rather stick with a provider who has proven reliablity and business ethics to me than jumping on the next cheap one.

HRMelissa
02-12-2002, 07:54 PM
Definatly a valid concern, you often dont know whats going on behind the scenes, especially with places that depend on companies losing millions every month.

-Brendan

allan
02-12-2002, 08:04 PM
Originally posted by HRMelissa
Definatly a valid concern, you often dont know whats going on behind the scenes, especially with places that depend on companies losing millions every month.

-Brendan

HRMelissa=Brendan? Is there something you are not telling us :D.

HRMelissa
02-12-2002, 08:17 PM
Yea im sitting on melissa computer cuz i hate being stuck in the corner of the office after everyone leaves :) No sex changes as of yet.

-Brendan