Hi, I was wondering could anyone tell me if you put 20 servers doing about 50GB per month would one T-1 Line handle the load?

Depends on the traffic patterns.

Just figure about 10 GB / daily usage for every T1.

Very easily, a T1 can support 324 Gigabytes of transfer.
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Is this a trick question?

Because my frank answer is none. Just don't see a place in this business any longer for T-1's.

However, on basis they are quoting. Assuming T-1 will support 10 GB per day. Peak is at least 3 times, but probably more like 5 times average. Therefore, anything using more than 75-100 GB Per month will be throttled at peak times.

I ment to say 50GB per month per machine of 20 machines

Originally posted by tymonhall
I ment to say 50GB per month per machine of 20 machines

Then as you have probably already gathered, no. A T1 would not be able to handle that traffic even if it was maxed out 24/7. Several T1's might be able to handle the load, but as most people here will tell you, just rent a rack in a good datacenter. The bandwidth should be cheaper and you get things like a backup power, HVAC, etc.

-joe

this is a tad off subject, but close to. what's the price / connection you could get from cogent VS. a t1 from elsewhere? wouldn't the cost be in proximity of one another?

this isn't for me of course, just a healthy dose of curiosity to fill my lack of knowledge..

Originally posted by Incognito
Because my frank answer is none. Just don't see a place in this business any longer for T-1's.
Come on .. this is unrealistic, a T1 can handle allot of traffic, and for some companies is more than enought ..

there is still plenty of demand for T1's

Originally posted by skylab
this is a tad off subject, but close to. what's the price / connection you could get from cogent VS. a t1 from elsewhere? wouldn't the cost be in proximity of one another?

this isn't for me of course, just a healthy dose of curiosity to fill my lack of knowledge..
Yes, the only problem is, Cogent is not coming to any new buildings, so if you wish to have cogent you have to go to them, they wont' come to them .. T1's, DS3's, etc ... come to you ;)

Very easily, a T1 can support 324 Gigabytes of transfer.

Actually, it can handle ~490 GBs.

I disagree with not having a place. These people said the same thing about dial up. T-1s have a purpose, if they didn't, they wouldn't be selling them.

4 t-1's and a Cisco 2620 = 6 mbits of transfer, that's not shabby bandwidth.

I host over 800 web sites, my PEAK is 2mbits maybe 2.2. I could EASILY host 1600 probably closer to 2200 web sites (assuming my marketing keeps drawing in the same "type" customer) on 4 T1's.

4 T1s $445 per month X 4 = $1780 per month for bandwidth, that's not great, but not bad either.

where are you getting a t1 for 445/mo?

Yes, I did and do.

Except dialup is all that's available in some areas. Otherwise, I do not personally understand why anyone would use it...guess I just don't do well with last year's technology.

But, I do understand the opposing opinion. Just prefer to stay on the leading edge.

re: dialup.
i used to live in an area where NOTHING was available. total country living. it was horrible. if all these areas were covered by broadband of some type, other than horrible satellite, i'd say dialup is outdated.

now that i live somewhere with broadband though, i could never imagine going back to dialup. forget that. can i get an amen?

i used to live in an area where NOTHING was available. total country living. it was horrible. if all these areas were covered by broadband of some type, other than horrible satellite, i'd say dialup is outdated.

Thats you. I live in San Diego and we still sign up accounts everyday for dial up. Some people don't want to pay for broadband, some just don't use it enough, and some are just happy with 56 k.

There shouldn't be an use for a bikes since there are cars?????

Originally posted by Incognito
Yes, I did and do.

Except dialup is all that's available in some areas. Otherwise, I do not personally understand why anyone would use it...guess I just don't do well with last year's technology.

But, I do understand the opposing opinion. Just prefer to stay on the leading edge.

Why use the biggest and the baddest when a good old T-1 is ENOUGH? There's a point where T-1s are just fine and then there's a point where they're not. Why pay the enormous costs for "leading edge" when tried and true will get you going?

Sounds like the attitude of the dot com/bomb I worked for.

"Why are we using Sun E4500's as web servers?" I asked
"For growth so we won't have to upgrade later on"
"ooooh hmm ok" <gets resume' together>

I am looking at options if I wanted to open my own mini Data Center and if DS1/T1 Lines will work for my own webhosted customers for starters or am I just Dreaming.

A T1 for $445 /mo. Wow... They go for about $900- $1200 mo. where I live.

I got a verio rep to commit to $550 per line here.

Originally posted by MGCJerry
A T1 for $445 /mo. Wow... They go for about $900- $1200 mo. where I live.


Right now, Savvis has them for $625 a month, including the local loop. That's a pretty good deal :)

did the $445 include loop charges? We pay $700 for a vanilla - same lata t1 here.

Also.. generally speaking (at least the way I see it) a t1 will do 1.544 mb/s. Which means... if you have a site that gets not very much traffic but frequently burts up to 2 mb/s a t1 would be insufficent. so.. again it depends on traffic patterns.

Yes that includes local loop. I'm due today at 4 to go talk to them.

You can get a full t-1 in San Diego right now for $399/mo - includes the local loop. You can get a wireless t-1 and wired back up for $499/mo.

Originally posted by Ein
Very easily, a T1 can support 324 Gigabytes of transfer.


Off by a factor of 1.5; T1 can push around 480GB/mo of traffic.

cheers,
:beer:

Originally posted by dektong


Off by a factor of 1.5; T1 can push around 480GB/mo of traffic.

cheers,
:beer:
Yup I've just verified :) 486000 MB if someone can come up with a different number please let me know

Umbilly said some people just don't want to pay for broadband. Well, here it is almost as cheap as getting a second line for modem. Example: Broadband $49.95/month. 56K =$28 per month for phone line, $10-20 for ISP. So, very little difference. Now if you are happy using your regular line to connect, then savings.

How are you guys comming up with these number of 486GB of bandwidth on a T1?

Originally posted by Incognito
Now if you are happy using your regular line to connect, then savings. But a great many people are perfectly happy with that. The users of this forum certainly aren't typical internet users; we're by and large internet professionals or hobbyists. But believe it or not, lots of people use the net for little more than email and maybe check out something on the web every once in a while. Some people even go for days without even logging in to their accounts.

1.544 mbits = 1581 kbits / 8 = 197 kbytes per second.

197 kbytes per second = 17020800 kbytes per day = 16.2 gigabytes per day

30 days in a month x 16.2 gigabytes per day = 486.96 gigabytes per month.

That's assuming you keep the pipe at 100% capacity 100% of the month.

Originally posted by Dixiesys
1.544 mbits = 1581 kbits / 8 = 197 kbytes per second.

197 kbytes per second = 17020800 kbytes per day = 16.2 gigabytes per day

30 days in a month x 16.2 gigabytes per day = 486.96 gigabytes per month.



Hey Dixiesys, I am a total newbie, could you tell me why you divided 1581 kbits by 8? I get the rest of the formula!
Thanks

8 bits in a byte

not forgetting 4 nibbles to a byte :)