I've just installed postnuke just to see what all the fuss was about. It looks really crap. I must be missing out on something.

I agree, it does look poor.. but I'm sure lots go after it for the features they can add to their site..

there aren't that many real useful features really. It doesn't even have a photo gallery or a downloads area.

Phpnuke is better I rekon....

and if you can code php just check out the addon instructions then integrate the slooze.php system available from the zend.com code area. Makes for a greate system im sure. If you check through the articles on the phpnuke.org site aswell you will find and album in there somewhere,

heres a domo of one for a start : http://www.menalto.com/projects/gallery-nuke/modules.php?op=modload&name=photos&file=index

isn't that the way though?

I've found most CMS's look downright nasty out of the box. Takes a fair bit of tender loving care to turn them into a thing of beauty. Even EZPublish is one ugly puppy once it's up and running.

Mambo is about the only one with any design style about it (IMHO), but it isn't the greatest as far as usability goes (unless you're big on pop-up windows)..

Greg Moore

isn't that the way though?

I just had to drop this one in here!!!

Theres a bit heck of a story behind it actualy.

It goes something like this :

Phpnuke 4. something all is fairly well, UNTIL...

some of the developers get REALy pissed at FB accidentaly forgetting to put there name in the credits so they open up postnuke, at the start it is a direct copy almost of phpnuke, then they proceed to realy nastly spam phpnuke.org after everay single post of module / theme / addon / comment saying postnuke is better then they have realy nasty personal digs at FB VERY insulting, this happned for months on end, I was a dialy visitor and even had a go at defending the org, they were real nasty and every time a module was made they would make the same module then go to phpnuke.org and say in there anouncement thred that postnuke is better and has the same module...

It got so bad and postnuke even started denying it was any of there "core" crew doing it but I put up a post to them saying "ok come on guys give FB your logs in 1 hour so he knows its not you flamming him" this they never done! why? because in 1 hour they could not have removed there traces from there logs, they tried to smash the phpnuke.org project. If they had given FB there logs then FB would have siad it was not them and both would be able to work on the spam/flamers IPs, but the crap did not stop, it was awfull and a lot of newbees got scared away, also other members probibly stopped attanding.

Now phpnuke.org is still strong and postnuke is edging on talking about commercial stuff, the future is yet to be seen, but thats the story and if I ever get accused of stirring sh*t about it I archived the threads because I was learning to code phpnuke.

The story of the break away coders from the forums the were in support of phpnuke.org.

the original complaints were about lack of css integration, CVS, and credits, so they tried to hammer phpnuke.org and they set up themselves.

Still postnuke IS a good package I am sure but I will never use for that reason and if you were to post this text on the phpnuke.org site a lot of people would agree with me.

Thats the story from my point of view...:confused:
You had to be a nuke addict to see it though not just a passing observer.

And yes phpnuke is based on another an earlier CMS but I dont think he done to the earlier one what the postnuke team done to FB, because he's not into those tactics, hes to busy trying to hold the project together.

With the work FB has done he deserves a wage as far as im concerned and there are now hundreds and hundreds of themes and addons and modules for phpnuke covering just about anything you care to imagine, only a very small % is listed in the downloads on the phpnuke.org site.

I am opinionated so because I was there and saw it all happen.

After reading cheesy's post, I tried installing phpnuke 5.4 to compare it. Firstly I must say that out of the box, phpnuke looks heaps better but the installation process is a tad more complicated (postnuke is almost all gui). And guess what? I couldn't install phpnuke 5.4

got this error:

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/username/public_html/phphtml/config.php:282) in /home/username/public_html/phphtml/mainfile.php on line 45

(basically somthing to do with headers and cookies. )

Then I went to the support forums and basically heaps of people were reporting bugs. This prompted me to look at the revision logs of phpnuke. I noticed that there were quite a few bug fixes with every release. From a software engineering perspective - NOT HAPPY!

btw. if anyway can help me debug that i'd be grateful :D

I too have been a frequent visitor to phpnuke.org since version 4.x.

Personally I think FB(and contributors) has come up with the greatest set of scripts in its class. Sure there have been some bugs in the software-and security holes-but like they say "You Get What You Pay For..."

Version 5.4 was a little tricky to install (yes I did get it running), but verions 5.5 should be (from what I see/hear) the most stable "bug-less" version ever....when it's released. PHP-Nuke is now progressing at what I think is an incredible rate for open source software.

There will always be bugs/glitches in the software but at least he's not charging you $300+ for it.

I had used PHPnuke from version 4.xx onwards..And till version 5.xx

But I prefer phpweblog, another CMS which is more easier to customize.

You can take a look at http://www.sanguo-online.com/phpweblog

The one thing I can't stand about all of these (though I'd imagine vBulletin forums share the same problem), is that unless it s on a decent server, the page sits blank while the table loads and then 20 seconds later, *BING* -there's the page. When you have DSL, you actually notice slow servers, I'm sure it isn't quite so noticable with dialup.

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I use PHPNuke, and it works fine for me. At first I tried 5.4 but got a ton of errors and eventually uninstalled it. I installed 5 but had a few hiccups but got it working and even customized a theme for it in a total of about 28hours (including testing and learning a little MySQL & PHP).

Since I was getting better at messing with the code and MySQL, I decided to try to re-install 5.4 I installed it into a folder and it worked. Needless to say, I like PHPNuke, but since it is for my RPG site. Considering my other option of making 100s if static HTML pages, java, javascript and lots of CGI, PHPNuke is a better option. I'm not that worried about looking for something better. Why upgrade or fix something that works for you.

Personally, I dont know of the issues between PHPNuke or PostNuke. I'm a user of a couple sites that are written in PHPNuke, and thats how I looked into using it.
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VhatDaFruit, I got a similar error when I stated installing 5 and didnt set permissions. Are all your PHP files chmod as 755, and config.php 777. Something else I had to do was go and delete some cookies. If you have already done this (most likely) I dont know what else... :)

I found most of the PHPNuke forums not very helpful, and rude.

Just my $0.02
Here (http://64.124.144.44) is my site if youre curious. It is version 5 though. I'll use 5.4 once I find some $$$ and get a host.

I have used PHP-Nuke and PostNuke. I find PHP-Nuke easier to modify.

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The one thing I can't stand about all of these (though I'd imagine vBulletin forums share the same problem), is that unless it s on a decent server, the page sits blank while the table loads and then 20 seconds later, *BING* -there's the page. When you have DSL, you actually notice slow servers, I'm sure it isn't quite so noticable with dialup.
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This seems to have to do with mod_gzip and the the way the pages are processed - generated -> zipped -> sent -> unzipped.




:beer:

I don't agree with the looking-crap thingie. Our site is postnuke based and it looks pretty good, if I may say myself. (check signature for url)
We used a basic theme that comes in the standard theme zipfile, so I understand if you don't like it, but there are people who REALLY know how to edit & make their own themes.
Check out this site: (it's in Dutch, so you won't understand much, but I'm talking 'bout webdesign here ;))
http://business.telenet.be

...I mean; that is something, right? That's nice!

...right? :rolleyes:

Originally posted by .::DefCon::.
...I mean; that is something, right? That's nice!

...right? :rolleyes:

Well it's ok. Nothing over the top as I see it, and it still does look like a Nuke install. I've just never been a fan of that block style page design - a module here, a module there, and them all looking like a jigsaw collection of bits stitched together.

Of course I understand that's just the way it work, but hey...

Greg Moore

I understand people don't like that, but the way I see it is that this is a perfect example/proof of what can be done with PHP/MySQL: an easy to manage webportal system, from which the look can be changed with a mouseclick. I think that is a wonderful thing...
but I understand if certain people are against it. :)

Later...

Originally posted by Chicken
The one thing I can't stand about all of these (though I'd imagine vBulletin forums share the same problem), is that unless it s on a decent server, the page sits blank while the table loads and then 20 seconds later, *BING* -there's the page. When you have DSL, you actually notice slow servers, I'm sure it isn't quite so noticable with dialup.

This is mostly a design issue. Most designers use tables to organize the elements of the page (they have no choice). The way HTML is designed, it is impossible for a browser to render a table correctly until it recieves the closing </table> tag, so they are actually being sent to you (the client) but your browser cannot draw the table until it got it all, then you see the whole page appearing in one moment, becuase the whole page is just one big table.

Originally posted by VhatDaFruit
After reading cheesy's post, I tried installing phpnuke 5.4 to compare it. Firstly I must say that out of the box, phpnuke looks heaps better but the installation process is a tad more complicated (postnuke is almost all gui). And guess what? I couldn't install phpnuke 5.4

got this error:

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/username/public_html/phphtml/config.php:282) in /home/username/public_html/phphtml/mainfile.php on line 45

(basically somthing to do with headers and cookies. )


btw. if anyway can help me debug that i'd be grateful :D


Go to the offending file and take a look at the ending code.

?>

....make sure there are no white spaces after that. If you find whitespaces..just keep hitting delete until it cant go anywhere. Then reup the file. I usually get that error after I've played with some files and forget to close the gap.

Ohh... I'm running 5.5 now, so my files are a bit different. Try deleting the cookies. I had a few errors that were fixed by deleting the cookies. You did CHMOD them to 755 right? I couldn't get it running at 644 like the instructions say.


/home/username/public_html/phphtml/config.php:282) in /home/username/public_html/phphtml/mainfile.php on line 45


The code for line 45 (in version 5.5 anyway) is:


setcookie("lang",$language,time()+31536000);


I found the Nukeforums (http://www.nukeforums.com) to be a better place to get some better answers, and plus the are more technical than I am. ;)

just my little suggestions.