hey poeple
i'm doing this speech and it has to be 5 minutes
well i just need people's opinion

the topic is euthanasia, do you think it's right?

for those of you that don't know that euthanasia is well it's like assisted death, say for example you are really ill and you have this terrible disease and it is causing you alot of pain and you tell the doctor to kill you....so that's what it basically is...

well anyways it would be really appereciated if you can give me some reasons for each of the sides...

thanks

My sister is a nurse and we've often discussed this. The reason it should not be allowed is that often when people are in pain maybe for a long or even a short time it can consume and make them people they are not. Thus in many cases people in a state of pain or in the state of mind where they are faced with a disease that will eventually lead to death need friendship and assistance. Councilling and perhaps meetings with other people with the disease are just a few examples of things that could help the person carry on. As well another reason is that sometimes when people are faced with a deadly disease or a lot of pain they slip into depression in which they are sometimes legally not allowed to make decisions concerning themselves since they are consumed in the depression.

That's a big can of worms there - stand clear.


Lats...

Well, my thoughts are this. This is a sad but true story.

My grandfather was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer, the doctors had him on radiation treatment and other things to try to slow the progression, but he was getting continuously worse, both from the disease itself and the radiation. He had to wear an oxygen mask to help with his breathing The whole time this was going on he was still living at home. The cancer then spread to the brain and he had to be put into the hospital. About 1 week after being in the hospital he had asked his children (my aunts, uncles and father) to pull the plug on his breathing machine because he was in so much pain. Needless to say they did not agree. That very night my grandfather pulled the plug himself thus ending his own pain. The sad thing was that nobody in the family got a chance to say their good byes until is was too late.

So now back to the question, what are my thoughts on this??

I have mixed views:

In specific situations it should be allowed because of the above story and a terminal illness.

However from a religious stand point taking your own life is frowned upon and should not be allowed.

Personally I think it should be up to family members because of the reasons given in a post by PERL SCRIPTOR above. However in my grandfathers case this did not matter.

Your honor? retorted the worm....

This is also a sad story, and a bit horrible too, but true, so if you dont like horrible stories please dont read this, ok.

I knew this kid once that at the age of 12 got bullied at school, so badly he had to hide every break and lunch time, unfortunately he got a bus home and he got bullied by the same kid / group of kids going to and from school. Eventualy it got realy bad because his work got affected, he asked his dad what he could do. His dad did not know how to cope with the question except say tell the headmaster and sort it out or hit him hard. The bulling went on, the kid felt sick. One day the kid came home from school and saw his dad on the roof fixing a chimmeny pot, he shouted hiya!, his dad retorted by swearing at him, the lad thought it was his fault for allowing himself to be bullied and felt very sad because his dad never swore before at him. The same day but later the police arrived, the lads dad was missing. Several days later he was found 30 miles away, in a car he borrowed from someone, a freinds car. Unfortunately he gased himself in the car, the kid blamed himself. No one ever talked to that kid, he recieved no couciling whatsoever, and everyone he knew ignored the subject completely, father side releations refused to acknowledge the mother and son, they lost there house and had to move to a council house many miles away, only to be moved to the village the siad bully came from. He had a hard time and basicaly grew up by himself not knowing why his father had gone, and kept on blaming himself for being no good at school, because he could not understand what mental sickness was about. For years and years this went on. Eventualy the young lad wanted to kill himself too, but one of the only things that stopped him was that his mum would be tarred with "like father like son" saying, strange eh? After a while though he did try to kill himself, not very sucsesfuly, so he started to punish himself by doing bad things and suffering the consiquences thinking he deserved it for killing his father, in fact by the time he was 25 he had over 30 very real fights which most he lost but that didnt bother him because it WAS his fault and he always thought he could take the punches, but he ended up in hospital plugged into machinery getting checked every 5mins. Niether his mother or anyone else knew anything about what was in the kids head because no one ever asked or wanted to know. In fact this kid was to grow up wondering what realy happned and never know, was his dad sick or not? It would be 20 years before the only person who could help him would, himself. He started to look at the facts, a suspisious death? He remembered that after his dad died his mum burnt a pile of books in the yard, he remembered holding one of them. It was orange and said macaroni, yep his father was a macaroni eng in radar. It would take 20 years before he found the list of 20 other macaroni engineers that had "killed themselves" many the same way. 20 years of f***kin hell just to find out that it just could of been murder, that it was maybe not his fault but worse or better, just more confusion... Now he is a grown man he watches his back, and knows how to realy fight many ways, in fact he has been introduced to special "arts". Its very unlikley the guy will ever find out if his father even wanted to kill himself, the brain tissue samples siad no, "aparently" but theres no thing for sure that would of put his mind at ease. If that lad had been given counciling he might of had a life instead of a hellish state, and whats worse is he knows that his father was a smart man and may of got help if it was available but it was not. I have heard he still wants to end it often, just out of reminisant habitual feelings, but he has stopped punishing himself because he can see there could be another side to the story and realized he has driven himself into a psudo schitzophrenic state, but he still loves life and realy wants to enjoy whats left of it, after the drugs and other things he got involved in... Its hard to believe but it was in fact many times worse than that, the guy is so lucky to be alive he is a genuine freak of nature.

Whats my point?

It does not matter how you do it, or why, but please please please tell your family that your going to do it if you are, notes mean very little... no matter if its terminal illness or mental illness, stress, depression or anything. Please tell someone close to you and MAKE them understand.

Yes I do agree with euthanasia, I think its your right to do this, but not without consultation, asked the appropriate questions first to establish your mental state and phisical state, and if the person is not in a fit state it should be the family who decides, as quoted above.

These are my thoughts and no one elses thoughts.

Never siad goodby, and they siad it was painless...

:angry: :confused: :bawling:

Regards
ScottM

Originally posted by Lats
That's a big can of worms there - stand clear.

Heh, exactly. I've said this before but here it is again. The two things you never discuss at the dinner table (or in this case a forum), are religion and politics.

Euthanasia tends to bring out the best and worst in both camps :D

Greg Moore