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e-view
12-09-2004, 04:54 PM
Hi everyone,


I dont know if there was disscused about those domains. Sorry then :)

1and1.com started to offer 25 free .name domains for "loyal" clients. Its valid until dec 20.
Your oppinion about this? Heard, what free .biz comming.

And maybe there is any other companies, which register .name for free(i dont want to deal with 1and1)?

Thank you

dmaven
12-10-2004, 06:31 AM
This be a 1&1 specific promotion. I am not aware of the .name registry running any board promotions

gghosting
12-10-2004, 02:23 PM
I know that a lot of companies did .info for free. Not sure about .name.

dmaven
12-10-2004, 03:23 PM
GNR might of done a special deal with 1&1 since they might move a great deal of inventory

ajaspers
12-10-2004, 11:42 PM
I think you're referring to .info domains. 25 free .name domains wouldn't make sense as you are only allowed to register your own name (or one of your trademarks).

dmaven: Registries aren't allowed to make special deals with individual registrars, each deal must be open to all registrars.

dmaven
12-10-2004, 11:48 PM
Originally posted by ajaspers
I think you're referring to .info domains. 25 free .name domains wouldn't make sense as you are only allowed to register your own name (or one of your trademarks).

dmaven: Registries aren't allowed to make special deals with individual registrars, each deal must be open to all registrars.

Quite false: Many registries such as neulevel and others will cut volume deals with specific registrars. They are not obligated to offer it to ALL registrars

ajaspers
12-11-2004, 12:28 AM
Each registry has a separate agreement with ICANN, but since you mentioned .biz, I will quote from their agreement.

Unsponsored TLD agreement (http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements/biz/registry-agmt-apph-11may01.htm): Appendix H (NeuLevel Equal Access and Nondiscrimination Practice)
NeuLevel, in its capacity as the Registry Operator, and on behalf of its contractors, makes the following certifications:

9. The Registry Operator has not provided preferential pricing structures, promotions or other economic terms to any individual ICANN-Accredited Registrar which are not available to all ICANN-Accredited Registrars.
The registries have to provide the same deals to all registrars.

dmaven
12-11-2004, 12:41 AM
What they say and what they do are different.

I am aware of several registrar specific deals that have been made. Most of these are volume specific, so if ANY registrar can meet the volume comittements then that would apply. The reality is only a handful of registrars are capable of churning the numbers that would qualify for committments, hence why many of these deals are more registrar specific.

ajaspers
12-11-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by dmaven
What they say and what they do are different.
Why would Neulevel risk losing the registry contract just to give a registrar a special price?
Originally posted by dmaven
I am aware of several registrar specific deals that have been made. Most of these are volume specific, so if ANY registrar can meet the volume comittements then that would apply. The reality is only a handful of registrars are capable of churning the numbers that would qualify for committments, hence why many of these deals are more registrar specific. What deals? That would be unfair to smaller registrars, since they would be required to charge higher prices or deal with smaller margins than the established registrars. :eek:

AbsolutelyFreeWeb
12-12-2004, 07:59 AM
I know that website.ws is making deals with registrars. That sux bigtime. It should be beneath a domain authority to make deals like that.

and we blame godaddy to do it with resellers...

ajaspers
12-12-2004, 10:06 AM
.ws is a ccTLD, they don't have to follow ICANN's rules (which is why some ccTLD registries charge very high prices or don't even have a system with multiple registrars).

I don't think .ws even has a ccTLD sponsorship agreement with ICANN.

dmaven
12-12-2004, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by ajaspers
Why would Neulevel risk losing the registry contract just to give a registrar a special price?
What deals? That would be unfair to smaller registrars, since they would be required to charge higher prices or deal with smaller margins than the established registrars. :eek:

They can offer the same deal to ALL registrars. The reality is if they put in volume comittments to qualify, only a handful are eligible

ajaspers
12-12-2004, 04:20 PM
I believe the rule is that the same opportunity to qualify must be given to all registrars. There cannot be any "under the table" deals.