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sailor 02-07-2002, 07:30 PM Beat this -
AMD XP1700
40 gig 7200 rpm hd
256mb ram
Linux 7.2 rh
300gig transfer included - MULTI HOMED - not cogent only
100% uptime guarantee
apc masterswtich remote reboot you controll
no contarct to sign - month to month
139 per month and 139 install!!
This chip smokes - just got new wholesale worked out.
MCHost-Marc 02-07-2002, 08:17 PM IDE or SCSI? How fast can you have this machine up?
scott2 02-07-2002, 08:42 PM Very nice deal.
How much to upgrade the RAM to 512?
How much for a second hard drive to use for backup?
What are your other connections besides cogent?
Looks very tempting!
DHWWnet 02-07-2002, 08:52 PM Great deal.
I think it's an ide since its 40 , scuzzies are 36Gig.
Who's your hardware supplier? I'm want to know b/c we need a few cost effective hardware suppliers. Kindly email me the company names.
Thank you.
elijaH:)
akaler 02-07-2002, 08:58 PM Originally posted by sailor
Beat this -
AMD XP1700
Yay, you did it!
Thanks for researching a system with this processor for me. I'm sure it'll be very successful for you... especially with that multihomed bandwidth! Good going!
:)
akaler 02-07-2002, 09:05 PM BTW... for the folks reading this who might want a control panel cheap (notice I didn't say anything but cheap here; I'm making no value judgements positive or negative about the software itself -- control panels seem to be a very personal thing at this time with no clear winner)... I noticed that Ensim is having a big sale right now. $199 bucks flat for a 100 domain license.
So, let's see... $139 + $139 + $199 ... $477 to start, then $139 a month puts you into a speed demon of a machine on some chunky bandwidth, with 100 accounts for yourself, or or to resell.
If this ain't some serious bang for the buck, I don't know what is!
eddie 02-08-2002, 07:03 AM How many free IP s do we get with the server?
thanks
WiredON.net 02-08-2002, 07:06 AM Sailor,
Im guessing you can't predict the future, therefore you can't guarantee 100% uptime :D
sailor 02-08-2002, 10:03 AM We feel confident with our setup - it has nothing to do with predicting the future - and everything to do about not charging our customers for something they don't receive - ie down service.
It is the ultimate backing of your product - if you don;t reciev it - you don;t pay for it. I challenge all the providers to step up to this.
It will definately seperate the wheat from the chaffe.
mdrussell 02-08-2002, 12:42 PM Originally posted by WiredON.net
Sailor,
Im guessing you can't predict the future, therefore you can't guarantee 100% uptime :D
WiredON, it's called a SLA. You offer 100% uptime, and credit for any downtime that may occur.
Mango 02-08-2002, 12:59 PM Sailor,
How much would additional BW be ?
Thanks.
DomiNET.net 02-08-2002, 01:46 PM Sailor, how to contact you fast?? ive emailed you and no answers...
Thanks for the great offer. However, a ping and traceroute to tranxactglobal.com from my place are not too impressive and I notice it's routed thru AGIS.
I have some questions:
- is the server will be hosted on the same network as your web site tranxactglobal.com?
- could you please give me some more information about your NOC and connection speed?
- who are your bandwidth providers?
- is the 300 GB bandwidth fully-burstable (uncapped)?
- how much to install Plesk or H-Sphere control panel?
sailor 02-08-2002, 08:08 PM - is the server will be hosted on the same network as your web site tranxactglobal.com?
yes
- could you please give me some more information about your NOC and connection speed? 24x7 - Atlanta GA in one of the main telecom hotels - redundant everything - typical blah blah blah here
cogent and aleron currently - qwest and level3 shuold be on within 2 weeks.
- who are your bandwidth providers?
- is the 300 GB bandwidth fully-burstable (uncapped)? fast e connection fully burtable to your server
- how much to install Plesk or H-Sphere control panel?
hspere you buys direct and they in stall it - plesk - I can give you 20% off list and it is 60 to install.
eddie 02-08-2002, 09:00 PM What about IPs how many do you get, and are they free.
ljprevo 02-08-2002, 10:19 PM Do you have a order link for this deal? I see no where to order this package on your site or have I missed something?
sailor 02-08-2002, 11:21 PM no we don;t even have an order link up yet - it is that new. send email to engineering@dv2.com with your partition and ip space requirements, send payment to jhinkle@tranxactglobal.com and an email to jhinkle@dv2.com and he will send you the current TOS and when he gets payment he will release your server
ebird 02-08-2002, 11:36 PM Seems nice. How long will this offer last?
How much do you charge to upgrade to 1GB ram?
another HD?
another PIII1G CPU?
Hope they are one time charges.
Looks great.
- How much IP? Additional IP; free or charge?
- How much for 512MB and 1GB of RAM?
- Do you allow legal adult content?
:beer:
ebird 02-09-2002, 12:32 AM Let's see whether we can get some replies over weekends.
richy 02-09-2002, 03:55 AM umm nice deal but 4 points
1. when you say send payment you dont mean paypall right? how do we send payment
2. we do get a copy of the TOS BEFORE paying right, isnt it just the same as on your site or can you post it on your site?
3. How much for the upgrades specified below
4. the bandwidth is real total un molested and un clever mathed right? as in not 95 percentile but based on the amount transfered.
thanks and a nice deal im sure youll get many customers when you answer all the questions :)
ebird do you mean an additional xp1700 mp or a p3 instead. i know amd kick but i havent seen that dual p3\xp mb yet :)
ebird 02-09-2002, 04:30 AM I think if you talk with sailor, you may get a PIII 1GB plan and I was asking about that.
Talked with jeff via AIM for about 20 minutes and he seemed nice. I had to let him go because it was about 0:20 in the morning his time.
richy 02-09-2002, 05:23 AM lol sorry, i wasnt having a go, only being helpful in my own unique manner :) your post confused me a bit (easily done these days). was their a price diff on the p3 and what spec in general, i.e. what will the motherboard take? is it a 810 effort capped at 512 or a real board that can take a few gig?
ebird 02-09-2002, 06:18 AM it's definitely not capped by 512mb ram, since I was asking for upgrading to 1GB ram. Not sure what's the maximum.
For other servers, please contact sailor directly or wait for a reply here.
Gotta go to bed now.
sailor 02-09-2002, 01:11 PM upgrade motherboard to support dual cpus is $50
both boards wil lsupprot 1 gig - i will check to see if dual board will support 2 - but I htink it will
actual bandwidth transfer - multi homed
will be posting TOS on website this week -they are new and improved.
Yes - paypal
40 gig hard drive $125
mem - 256->512 75.00
512->1 gig 125.00
extra cpu - PIII1ghz 125.00
XP1700 175.00
all are 1 time charges
Plesk is 20% off list
offer is not time expired - no plans to stop it
any other questions?
scott2 02-09-2002, 01:39 PM Wow sailor - everything looks fantastic with the one exception of only accepting payment via paypal.
I really like that hardware upgrades are one-time fees.
What a great deal this looks like!
Zoltrix 02-09-2002, 01:40 PM I think it has been asked 3 times,
How many free IPS do you offer, and how much for more?
major 02-09-2002, 02:14 PM This offer is looking real good. Amazing in fact...
Another question:
- Do the motherboards support RAID 0/1 ?
sailor 02-09-2002, 02:58 PM sorry - overlooked that
IP's 5 usable come with the base machine.
additional request on a 8 addional level are $1 each per month
if you get into volume - we will discount - ie a class c is 100 per month.
all requests must meet arin guidelines
bitel.biz 02-13-2002, 05:05 AM both boards wil lsupprot 1 gig
OK, boards will support 1 GB RAM, but what's max that those boards can support? If it is XP board I think it should support at least 2 GB RAM, right? Is it SDRAM or DDR, ECC?
And one more question, how much would it cost me if I order 128 IP's?
Thanks
sailor 02-14-2002, 02:18 PM the first of these servers is here and up - holy smokes these are so fast.
also - I have a new motherboard with dual cpu and on board scsi for another 400 that is truly the fastest linux box you will see - if you need smoking performance - try that one.
richy 02-14-2002, 03:46 PM how about a gamers special,
nice high spec, capped bandwidth to say 1 mbps or 2 mbps so its a fixed fee. castle wolfenstein \ quake 3 \ ut or red faction all nicely pre configured etc with shell access . just an idea any price on it,
say a dual board or at least a 1700 1 gb ram and two raid 40 gb ides or something similar.
sailor 02-14-2002, 06:13 PM I can give you a 1700 with 2 40gb drives and 1 gig ram and 300 gig actual transfer that is raqte limited at 1 meg -(works very well) - I have someone you can talk to - for no install and 229 per month or 1200 for 6 months paid in advance or 139 per month and 465 install fee.
universal2001 02-15-2002, 03:47 PM Like to say that I have a server with these guys and this is what i get from FTP.UU.NET:
ftp> get uumap.tar.Z
local: uumap.tar.Z remote: uumap.tar.Z
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,48,96,9,92,250)
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for uumap.tar.Z (8520221 bytes).
226 Transfer complete.
8520221 bytes received in 4.34 secs (1.9e+03 Kbytes/sec)
VERY FAST INDEED..
8.5mb in 4.3secs.. - NOT BAD ;)
jmars 02-15-2002, 03:59 PM Originally posted by sailor
I can give you a 1700 with 2 40gb drives and 1 gig ram and 300 gig actual transfer that is raqte limited at 1 meg -(works very well) - I have someone you can talk to - for no install and 229 per month or 1200 for 6 months paid in advance or 139 per month and 465 install fee.
I'd like to get a machine like that.
I'd like to drill down a couple of things, though, between you and the others offering a deal like you (rastoma first, then lightone (who has standard athlons up to 1.4ghz), then saburovo/rackshack (good bandwidth, but slower machine). When outfitted with a gig of ram and two hard drives, all have decent machines for a $450-$600 initial payment (minus saburovo who adds in startup fees to the monthlies), and a *ton* of bandwidth... so they're good to compare to.
First, could you put up the same file on of the the XP1700s that rastoma did to test download speeds?
http://66.28.242.119/setupcs2k60xp.exe
Putting up a standard webpage with a couple graphics would also be good to test through tracert.com's worldwide speedmeter service.
Second... how long have you guys been in business? Seems like you've been in this for awhile, which I like. Dependability and reputation counts -- a couple others are relative newcomers.
Third, you're using Aleron and Cogent from what I've read. Any others, and do you tune your routes for speed or route over the cheapest first like RS? (and, you might not be able to answer this, and that's ok... Aleron, who was previously pretty slow (according to Boardwatch), bought Telia, a speed demon of the industry... would you know if your Aleron routes are mostly going over Telia fiber, or the slower stuff they previously had?)
Fourth, what kind of brands and types of hardware you using? I know one of the providers stated they use Abits motherboards, which is a decent choice. Others like RS never seem to want to say, which is a negative against them (although they did say they use Maxtor 7200rpm drives). Also, with the XP, I'm sure you're using DDR ram. I think some others, due to processor choice, are using cheaper PC133 ram.
Fifth, any bulk bandwidth deals? i.e., I know you said $1 per additional gig, but any deals like your compeititors have for $100 for another 300 gigs?
Sixth, so $50+$175 for the extra XP, means an additional $225 total for a two processor system?
Seventh, how much for an extra gig of memory (going up to 2)?
Mmm... I think that's it. And, actually, with seven questions, I don't know what more anyone can ask! hahaha =)
Basically, I'm trying to gauge the reliability of the hardware/bandwidth/staff vs. the speed of the bandwidth. You seem to be a good choice.
There's just so many good deals out there right now. I thank you offering one of them. I think if you can give brief answers to these 7 questions, you'll answer a lot of unasked questions in peoples heads. It'll give us a lot of additional info to decide. Thanks!
jmars 02-15-2002, 04:06 PM Originally posted by universal2001
Like to say that I have a server with these guys and this is what i get from FTP.UU.NET:
ftp> get uumap.tar.Z
local: uumap.tar.Z remote: uumap.tar.Z
227 Entering Passive Mode (192,48,96,9,92,250)
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for uumap.tar.Z (8520221 bytes).
226 Transfer complete.
8520221 bytes received in 4.34 secs (1.9e+03 Kbytes/sec)
VERY FAST INDEED..
8.5mb in 4.3secs.. - NOT BAD ;)
Wow. I missed your post -- we were writing at about the same time (although mine took about 15 minutes longer to write, ha!).
Anyway, that IS impressive, wow! What kind of machine do you have from them, may I ask? And how do you find the overall reliability of the servers, bandwidth and staff? Good enough for pro applications?
I'm hoping that's a yes to the last one.
If so, this is probably the cheapest and fastest DEPENDABLE server deal out there. I mean, if you've ever taken a look at the RS forums, for instance, you'll see that sometimes their servers are down for days, or that they'll have problems with them (like crashing constantly!) for MONTHS before the staff actually swap out hardware to see if it's gone bad. That kind of stuff truly sucks. Seems more like a hobby server. But if dv2 can offer a pro (or pro-ish) level server at a hobbiest price... then hey, the choice between all the good deals out there right now becomes pretty clear.
sailor 02-15-2002, 06:37 PM Second... how long have you guys been in business? Seems like you've been in this for awhile, which I like.
Dependability and reputation counts -- a couple others are relative newcomers.
ANSWER - over 3 years - we were profitable last year
Third, you're using Aleron and Cogent from what I've read. Any others, and do you tune your routes for speed or
route over the cheapest first like RS? (and, you might not be able to answer this, and that's ok... Aleron, who was
previously pretty slow (according to Boardwatch), bought Telia, a speed demon of the industry... would you know if
your Aleron routes are mostly going over Telia fiber, or the slower stuff they previously had?)
ANSWER - we ahve those two and some private peering - we open BGP for the most part - except we do tune to find some faster tracerts when we find that it is fater to override BGP - sometimes it selects what it thinks is the best route - but it is not always the fastet route - we do not select on lowest cost unless a customer spcifically requests "COGENT ONLY". Then we send them there through route weighting their subnets - so that they still have auto backup.
Fourth, what kind of brands and types of hardware you using? I know one of the providers stated they use Abits
motherboards, which is a decent choice. Others like RS never seem to want to say, which is a negative against them
(although they did say they use Maxtor 7200rpm drives). Also, with the XP, I'm sure you're using DDR ram. I think
some others, due to processor choice, are using cheaper PC133 ram.
ANSWER - western digital 7200 rpm drives - AOPEN boxes - motherboards - I honestly don;t know - but they are whatever is available from our supplier with the aopen box - they are not cheap. I don;t want to get more specific than that on an open forum - I don't want to help my competition too much.
Fifth, any bulk bandwidth deals? i.e., I know you said $1 per additional gig, but any deals like your compeititors have
for $100 for another 300 gigs?
ANSWER - yes - we will match most deals that are comparable all the way around to ours - and we can get cheaper on more bandwidth - depends on the quantity. I can not go that low though - that is near cost on cognet only - that provider will not be around long. But I willo be there to pick up their customer base - hehe.
Sixth, so $50+$175 for the extra XP, means an additional $225 total for a two processor system?
ANSWER - no - we messed up - the board on that box to support dual cpu's is 450 and comes with scsi - I am looking for another board right now - I can do 125 + 50 for a dual PIII box - I will let you know shortly.
Seventh, how much for an extra gig of memory (going up to 2)?
250.00
richy 02-15-2002, 08:56 PM i think some companies dont mention detailed specs because the specs vary from machine to machine week to week, if your buying 100 servers a week your going to tune your setup . from my experience aopen are pretty good, never had any problems with speed or reliability.
sailor 02-15-2002, 10:50 PM Ok - so I think I have answered the qeustions - and everyone likes the answers? Right - I would like 30 orders in the next 5 days. hehe -
well come on now - I have to ask - right?
ok fine - pretty please.
Thanks!!!
scott2 02-15-2002, 11:41 PM Do you have a tech on site 24/7 or ???
I know this comes with a remote reboot, but still if there was a problem with a server coming back up it would be nice to know someone was available within so many minutes to help...
How many servers do you already have there?
Also it's really too bad you don't have a merchant account so you could accept payment other than by paypal... that makes me wonder how established you are, even though it sounds like you really know your stuff.
Is there any kind of network uptime gaurantee?
(Edit: Oops, I missed that you said "100% uptime guarantee")
Oh and I take it that if you sign up at $139 this is the price for as long as you have the server, or (since it's month to month) might it increase in the future?
sailor 02-16-2002, 12:32 AM yes - we have techs there 24x7 except - sat night from 9pm to 8 am and sunday night from 9pm to 8am.
There is a tech on call during that time that lives 15 minutes away.
we have just over 600 servers in the pop currently. - 95% linux - rest sun and nt
merchant account - we have in the past billed larger amounts to larger managed accounts - this is a foray into smaller dedicated boxes - easy to do - but we are not running out to get a credit card account and have one person gurantee the account - we are owned by over 50 stockholders including an institution - if we were a smaller company that was basically a sole proprietorship- then sure -but it is not that simple - I can have the company go get an ibil complete - but none of the smaller customers want to pay the 15% overhead they charge to take on the risk of these accounts. I don;t blame you - just as i know you all don;t blame our officers.
no plans to increase the price - but on small accounts like this - if we sign a longer term deal and the customer decides they got a better deal and wants to go somewhere else and break the contract - we are not going to pursue them - it is not worth our time - so what are we getting in return for guaranteeing the price?
you can pay up front and I wil lgive you a discount - how would that work? you get a lower price - i am taking risk on that - but you are taking risk on us too then - oh well - i am of the conclusion that nothing is perfect and I will never please everyone and the requests get more intense and varied as the offer gets smaller and cheaper - but hey - I think we do a great job and its fun - and our customers like us - so I can't complain - and by the way - thanks to all of our customers -
And if you search - most of our customers will tell you we go the extra mile. :)
thanks- JH
panopticon 02-16-2002, 04:48 AM I wish I could find some posts by your existing customers... I'm really interested but I just have to decided between you and RackShack who seem a little more established and don't host as many adult servers (which I'm afraid might invite attacks, cracking, legal problems, spam and blocked mail problems, etc. more so than typical non-adult customers...)
universal2001 02-16-2002, 05:06 AM >Anyway, that IS impressive, wow! What kind of machine do you have from them, may I ask? And how do you find the overall reliability of the servers, bandwidth and staff? Good enough for pro applications?
Well I got from them a Pentium 3, 1ghz with 1gb of ram, 2*40gb 7200rpm hard drives. I had to pay a huge setup fee, but that's because I did not buy it from the special they are having now.. (oh well).
But besides that, everything has been working smoothly and you simply can't beat the quality bandwidth they offer.. BGP4 with multiple providers is unreal for the price you're paying for.
I haven't had any MAJOR disasters where a HD fails or memory dies so I cannot actually test to see how fast they get their engineers there to replace the equipment.. One day this will be put to the test.. :P
sailor 02-16-2002, 09:24 AM Adult is only 35% of our totalt revenues
we have not had a lot of spam problems -and we only have the typical hacking problems which is usually associated with our access business customer who sometimes run NT servers - our adult business customer cause us little trouble - they are quiet and pay thier bills! The bigger differentiation is between Unix vs NT and we are 95% linux. The companies that are running a lot of NT are the one that are more vulnerable. That is the question you should be asking.
We - like rackshack - are owned by a larger ISP / Data center operator - DV2, Inc. (HAHA they are owned by EV1 - is that too funny or what - and this is total coincidince). Therefore we4 both have nice access business and both own and control our own data center.
They have more servers - I think we provide higher service and bend over backwards a little more - (check your posts) - but I guesss they don;t have to because they are the market leader and have earned their position. They do a very fine job I am sure - I just think you will be happy with us and soemtimes the little things make the extra difference. Godd luck in making your decision.
richy 02-16-2002, 06:55 PM any chance you could have a look into offering stuff like ensim server exchange and maybe a backup solution? just areas that other providers in your price range are lacking.
catchthree 02-17-2002, 08:37 PM How does one get hold of you for ordering server?
I went to both websites and called the numbers on there. But it's just a message of some guy saying your call is important to us, leave a message.
Do you have anybody that has a website up, that we could probably view.
What kind of payment method are available?
sailor 02-17-2002, 10:51 PM you can pm me with your contact details and I will get you information - also - tomorrow - I can call you if you like.
we take paypal, checks and credit cards
sailor 02-20-2002, 11:09 PM Ordering is now online at www.tranxactglobal.com/servers.html
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