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View Full Version : Who Copied Who?
Incognito 02-07-2002, 02:42 PM I see that we now have another skirmish developing....Hostgui vs. CPanel on who copied who....
Sort of funny, because the one who really came up with a panel of this type before either of them was Alabanza.
Furthermore, copying a general concept is not a bad thing. It's what you do from there. I would expect all Control Panel developers to look at their competition and try to emulate their best features. That way the product will continue to evolve and improve.
ScottD 02-07-2002, 03:03 PM Well stated, copying ideas and building on them is an age old practice and is the nature of evolution. Without it we wouldn't have progressed beyond the Ford Model T, which couldn't itself have existed without copying since it copied the horse driven carriage, minus the horse.
I, for one, look forward to heavy competition in the control panel arenas. Competition is a good thing! Ensim has already opened up a special for Webppliance LS, dropping prices by up to $400 and my guess is that they are doing this as a preemptive strike at those waiting for other products to be released. Once again, the consumer benefits!
Scott
priyadi 02-07-2002, 05:03 PM I don't think they copied each other code. HostGUI imitate CPanel, but that's not the same as 'copying'. They do it for a good reason: Cpanel is a widely used control panel, so it is natural for them to imitate Cpanel interface, but while the interface feels the same, I don't think the code behind it is the the same or even similar to Cpanel.
The same thing can be said to anything involving user interface, operating systems come to mind. Apple once defined an easy to use interface (well they copied from someone else), then Microsoft copied it, the interface (WIMP) becomes more popular, then every other operating system on the planet has that kind of interface in some form or another. While the interface looks similar, I'm sure everybody understands that the underlying code behind them is pretty much different.
Walter 02-07-2002, 05:25 PM Originally posted by priyadi
the interface feels the same, I don't think the code behind it is the the same or even similar to Cpanel.
No and Yes. ;)
No, the interface looks different, at least to me.
Yes, probably the two most important differences (at least I hope so) will be coding quality and a different treatment of customers.
ScottD 02-07-2002, 05:41 PM Which is exactly what makes evolution work. You take the ideas, mold them into better ones, create something out of them, and in the end we the people benefit from it. It really starts to get good when competition picks up. The future looks pretty good I'd say.
Scott
Walter 02-07-2002, 05:55 PM Future already begins.
Cpanel is adding new features (and new bugs) at the light of the speed since HostGui started and Burst registered hostgui.net - what will come next?
TimPD 02-08-2002, 12:32 AM First of all CPanel copied HostGUi and then Stole HostGUi.net domain name which is in the process of being worked out. Anyways.
Get-Hosted.com 02-08-2002, 02:51 AM I wouldn't say anyone copying another control panel is a bad thing here. The different control panels should try to bring what the market wants in the control panel.
If you said CPanel copied HostGUI... then you would have to say HostGUI copied about 25 other features from CPanel. It is weird how Cpanel is coming out with all these new features after HostGUI demo was released... but it's not a bad thing, and there are a few other big factors to take in other then features, like stabilty etc...
Now on the domain issue... we all know who is in the wrong there.
Matt Lightner 02-08-2002, 03:04 AM Originally posted by TimPD
First of all CPanel copied HostGUi and then Stole HostGUi.net domain name which is in the process of being worked out. Anyways. Just to clear something up...
It was BurstNET who registered the hostgui.net domain name--not Cpanel/Darkorb.
I think people are getting the two confused.
Matt
Hostbust 02-08-2002, 12:39 PM Originally posted by Site5-Matt
Just to clear something up...
It was BurstNET who registered the hostgui.net domain name--not Cpanel/Darkorb.
I think people are getting the two confused.
Matt
Thank you for the clarification Matt.
Would you please take a moment to explain the relationship between Burst and Cpanel?
Then, can you explain why Burst is defending Cpanel by registering their name?
And as a last comment, cpanel has sat on their tuffs long enough that others apparently are looking at the market saying to themselves, WHY CHA! I should be making my own panel!
And this is being done, in adbundance.
Picking on Hostgui seems a little like a straw grab and a focus to vent out the frustration of not being able to compete.
So it looks as though in order to compete they are resorting to setting themselves up in an advantageous position against Hostgui.
Which as it will turn out will be futile as these new providers release their panels.
VirtualCP, and many others are coming, get ready Cpanel, its happenin. Can anyone say delay in Hostnoc? oh, been said.
ScottD 02-08-2002, 12:52 PM I'm not so sure the CPanel folks will fall asleep and just let themselves be steamrolled by the competition. If anything, these newer control panels ought to be a wake-up call to them to get their butts in gear and start building out their software and support.
If they simply sit down and watch the competition bury them, then they'll suffer the same fate that Datapoint suffered many moons ago when they thought they'd survive simple because they invented ARC net (anyone remember this?) It wasn't long before they were nothing more than a thought as other network technologies came into light (Token Ring, Ethernet...). The never embraced what their marketing research should have told them to, so they died. The same will happen to those who don't hold up to the newer Control Panels that come out.
Skeptical 02-08-2002, 04:07 PM I find it ludicrous for ANYONE to say Hostgui is copying cpanel. here are my reasons:
1) hostgui is not even out yet! All we've seen is one screen shot. That's it!
2) control panels functionality is based on what the end user wants. Unless Cpanel was the first company to come up with the entire concept of subdomains, e-mail accounts, password changes, online file manager, and freeware cgi scripts, nobody can claim ANYONE has copied them.
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