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eConcept
11-25-2004, 10:57 AM
Hi everybody,
I have some questions about free hosting. First of all, I would like a ad management who allow google adsense advertising. Anybody have a good script for that?

Second question, Iam looking for a software who ban user who have prohibite file like: .mp3 .divx and any stuff like that. Also a mail scanner you stop user how try to send spam with his email. If you know a good software, say it to me. Thx all

Sorry for my english, iam french ;)

crucialx
11-25-2004, 11:26 AM
Don't use easyhost, I would suggest taking a look at xpanel.org, we have a license and are just about to replace our old script. From the testing we have done it works very well.

LP-Trel
11-25-2004, 01:04 PM
While I've never used either from what I hear xpanel definately has something going for them around the free webhosting side of this industry.

Give www.xpanel.org a look for more information. Oh and as an afterthought you might want to opt for the installation fee, as I understand it the documentation leaves alot to be desired.

crucialx
11-25-2004, 01:09 PM
Hmm.... yes I would second that, installation instructions are quite lacking... As well as any documentation actually

eConcept
11-26-2004, 09:34 AM
Is it a good idea to offer free hosting to chinesse? Is it safe or not? Because in 3 days I received 20 request from chiness. Thx alot.

Dan L
11-26-2004, 02:18 PM
.mp3 files aren't necessarily illegal. A band could put up three or four of their songs for sharing.

However, 1500 .mp3 files will be a problem. :)

LP-Trel
11-26-2004, 04:26 PM
Originally posted by eConcept
Is it a good idea to offer free hosting to chinesse? Is it safe or not? Because in 3 days I received 20 request from chiness. Thx alot.

It is not safe unless you are prepared and hardened against it.

IMHO it is safest not to accept applications from Asia. (Bearing in mind Australia and New Zealand are seperate from this ban.)

dollar
11-26-2004, 04:30 PM
Just require a valid domain name and put serious limits on the site. If they don't have a valid TLD then don't even bother hosting them. I would not trust chinese requests.

Bodeba
11-26-2004, 05:43 PM
is there any particular reason why, or do we not like the chinese?

j/k :)

on a serious note, what is the reason?

dollar
11-26-2004, 05:44 PM
Because history tells us that people registering from china think the entire world is under Hong Kong laws and like to host many things that the FBI doesn't deem legal.

crucialx
11-26-2004, 05:47 PM
Also, for most reasons free hosting is done, it is not very useful. If you are making money from ads, they don't usually click on the ads, etc... From the free hosting services we have used, they tend to only abuse the accounts as well. Using large amounts of bandwidth, hosting high traffic forums (which put a high load on the server), etc.

I have nothing personally against Chinese, in fact much the opposite, but for free hosting it isn't worth it.

dollar
11-26-2004, 05:49 PM
If i was selling a product, then I would go ahead and be open to clients all over the world, i love the chinese, but since I am giving something away for free I would be leery about those who I gave it to.

Bodeba
11-26-2004, 05:49 PM
ok understood thanks for explaining

eConcept
11-26-2004, 06:56 PM
Does .info, net.ru and org.ru are valid TLD ???

dollar
11-26-2004, 07:09 PM
That depends on if you accept them or not =0) If i was a free host in russia, i would have no problems iwht net.ru or org.ru or anything. In the US, if i was to start a free hosting company, i personally would keep it to org come and net.

E_man3
11-27-2004, 03:12 AM
Don't give away free E-mail. You're just going to get abused and used.

crucialx
11-27-2004, 04:09 AM
We are currently running a free mail service and it is running quite well. Using a script like hivemail works very well and as of yet we have had no abuse. We have a only a small number of users (750), but it is growing.

Z1 hosting
11-28-2004, 10:20 AM
are there anyothers like xpanel.org (for free?)

boonchuan
11-28-2004, 11:39 AM
Actually all countries have their bad eggs not only asian countries, blacklisting asian countries excluding nz and au isnt very fair. At least for us , singapore, we have well developed laws and regulations governing the Internet etc. So has Japan and Korea.

HostForAsia
11-28-2004, 01:17 PM
boonchuan is correct, actually i've yet to see any scammers from asian countries. my previous 2 chargebacks are from non asian country.

LP-Trel
11-29-2004, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by boonchuan
Actually all countries have their bad eggs not only asian countries, blacklisting asian countries excluding nz and au isnt very fair. At least for us , singapore, we have well developed laws and regulations governing the Internet etc. So has Japan and Korea.

Asian countries tend to be upwards of 70% of the "bad eggs" on services I have dealt with. It is not uncommon for Asians (expecially China) to be banned from these services.

Also it is key to note that advertisers aren't necessarily targeting poorer Asian users and thus their impressions don't make money for the provider.

Originally posted by HostForAsia
boonchuan is correct, actually i've yet to see any scammers from asian countries. my previous 2 chargebacks are from non asian country.

We are discussing free services here, not paid. If you want to sell them webhosting, no problem. You won't be flooded with 700 orders per day from China that way. ;)

valmark
12-18-2004, 10:39 AM
Actually I'm runing Free webhosting service for some time now ..6 months and 1/2 of my users are from China and have never problems with them.And .. well I should say that .. Hong Kong is not in China :)

ichris
12-19-2004, 02:38 AM
eConcept,

If you need to force user's ads on to their website, you can always use mod_layout. If you don't have root access, you can use .htaccess to append or prepend an advertisement. To find out more, you can always start a thread at http://cpanel.net

-Chris

LP-Trel
12-19-2004, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by valmark
Actually I'm runing Free webhosting service for some time now ..6 months and 1/2 of my users are from China and have never problems with them.And .. well I should say that .. Hong Kong is not in China :)

From reading your post I can say that English is likely not your first language.. I'm jumping to a conclusion here and I'm going to say you are Asian yourself. (No offense meant here.. just leading into my other comments!)

When you can understand people in their native language it is much easier to host them as you can fit their needs a bit better. The problem is some of us aren't Asian and don't understand those languages.

If you want to host them.. great! There is a massive untapped market in Asia that Asian hosts should fill. :)

valmark
12-19-2004, 08:29 AM
Originally posted by LP-Trel
From reading your post I can say that English is likely not your first language.. I'm jumping to a conclusion here and I'm going to say you are Asian yourself. (No offense meant here.. just leading into my other comments!)

When you can understand people in their native language it is much easier to host them as you can fit their needs a bit better. The problem is some of us aren't Asian and don't understand those languages.

If you want to host them.. great! There is a massive untapped market in Asia that Asian hosts should fill. :)

No, I'm not Asian, I'm living in Europe and I can hardly understand their language too.But I have never had problem with one of them and they never called me for support.
Don't get me wrong.I don't say they are all perfect customers .. there are quite a lot "bad" guys from Asia I suppose, It's just that I choose which customer I give my service.

And ofcourse, you are right about the untapped market in Asia.It needs to be filled with Asian hosts (which understands their languages), but as long as they(Asian) bring visitors to their sites hosted by me, and the visitors keep clicking on the banners,their language will not be a problem for me.

I'm sorry for my poor English, its not my first language indeed. :)

LP-Trel
12-19-2004, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by valmark
No, I'm not Asian, I'm living in Europe and I can hardly understand their language too.But I have never had problem with one of them and they never called me for support.
Don't get me wrong.I don't say they are all perfect customers .. there are quite a lot "bad" guys from Asia I suppose, It's just that I choose which customer I give my service.

And ofcourse, you are right about the untapped market in Asia.It needs to be filled with Asian hosts (which understands their languages), but as long as they(Asian) bring visitors to their sites hosted by me, and the visitors keep clicking on the banners,their language will not be a problem for me.

I'm sorry for my poor English, its not my first language indeed. :)

Hey no worries.. I just took a stab in the dark with the Asian assumption. ;)

ORiN
12-19-2004, 08:42 PM
Interesting. I, myself is an Asian but I don't like hosting Chinese websites as they don't generate revenue for my ad-supported business model. They like pestering even after rejections too but that applies to only a few individuals.

I have nothing against Chinese and in fact, I am Chinese myself. :D