Colo for $50 a month NO SETUP FEE

**Towers only.....NO RACKS**

You get the following:

400GB of Bandwitdh
24/7 Support
24/7 Reboot
2 IPs

Our providers include cogent and above net.

Email me at vortexminds@aol.com for more info.

Bandwitdh is $10 per 20GB overage

Extra Ips are $50 for 10 One Time Fee.

Thanks
x213 Networks
Sav

Originally posted by x213Networks
Colo for $50 a month NO SETUP FEE

**Towers only.....NO RACKS**

You get the following:

400GB of Bandwitdh
24/7 Support
24/7 Reboot
2 IPs

Our providers include cogent and above net.

Email me at vortexminds@aol.com for more info.

Bandwitdh is $10 per 20GB overage

Extra Ips are $50 for 10 One Time Fee.

Thanks
x213 Networks
Sav
your site seems to be down, is the link correct?

where is your NOC located?

Our site is down for maintence our noc is in Chicago, IL ...The board of trade building

THanks

Originally posted by x213Networks
**Towers only.....NO RACKS**

400GB of Bandwitdh
24/7 Support
24/7 Reboot


Rather interesting that you want towers, most people will only take racks. :)

Actual bandwidth or measured at 95%?

I guess there would be a cost for 'support issues', an hourly rate maybe?

Again, is there a cost for say 1/2 dozen reboots each month?

Thanks.

Originally posted by Wolfy
Again, is there a cost for say 1/2 dozen reboots each month?

6 reboots per month?!?!? :eek:

What are you doing, running Windows?

Originally posted by Mike the newbie
6 reboots per month?!?!? :eek:

What are you doing, running Windows?

LOL .. point taken .. it was really just a number I pulled out of the air. Given that many other providers will give you 5 or 6 'free' reboots each month.

Of course one would hope/expect that you server does not need any after everything is setup correctly!

any IP to trace?
uptime guarantee?
remote reboot access possible?


and why just towers and no racks?

You may trace this IP 66.28.242.98

Unlimited Reboots via webmin or pcanywhere (If you server is frozen we can do it via ICQ page)

We have a 95% Uptime Guarantee

We do not except racks because we currently do not have the equitment for racks (Rack Mount Cages and Such). We will be offereing rack space soon.

Thanks

thanks for that quick answer :)

Thats great, especially because of towers are much cheaper than racks :D

that fact makes me little worrying because I get a feeling of a garage instead of a NOC with power redundancy and stuff like that ... do you have some photos? :cartman:

how fast is your connection at all? do the user get a 100 Mbit port or 10?

thanks :)

When we co-locate with you, is this by any chance out of your NOC from your basement as you said here?:eek:

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=30380

And I almost purchased a server from this kid...

Wow...

TomK

Nice :)

Its not a BASEMENT noc. If you even read those posts you would see that those were plans and just an idea. Our noc is in Chicago, The Board of Trade Building



Each user gets a shared 10mbit port (3users to a port)

Thanks

do you have any pictures of your noc?

Not that I'm accusing you of having a basement noc, it's just that
I'm the kind of guy who has a hard time believing things that I don't auctally see... That's why

How do 3 servers share one port? You have hubs connected to switches?

As far as I can tell it's actually a legitimate deal. There's another company (www.kingcomp.net) which is doing more-or-less the same thing (even down to the three servers per network port deal). I'd guess that they're both reselling for someone or other who has a NOC at the Board of Trade, though who it is I have no idea. I suspect there's no public access to the NOC as entry to the BoT has been rather restricted since 9/11.

BTW, x213: are you in the north or south Board of Trade building?

Originally posted by amaroq
As far as I can tell it's actually a legitimate deal. There's another company (www.kingcomp.net) which is doing more-or-less the same thing (even down to the three servers per network port deal).


I just checked out their pricing... 10mb port shared with unlimited transfer? for $39/month?????

What am I missing?

Oh.. well I just see where it's primary Cogent.. but still... damn cheap price.

North Tower

x213Networks, while I understand your website is down ' due to maintence ' (you mentioned that you did hope to have it fixed late last month), and this kind of thing may be new to you. But I think that a few pictures, specific technical specs, and details about you/your company would make a few people (myself included) a little more comfortable.

Is your mail server down also? .. I've really got a thing against AOL. :mad:

I think you may have missed my questions earlier too.
Also, and as for 95% uptime – I’d not be impressed if my server was down 1.5 days each month! Did you mean 99.5% maybe?

i have a tower just laying around

I may aswell send it there in a few weeks, just for fun.. i'll tell you how it goes

Lol Carm, there should be more people who act and think the way you do :)

Yes our mailservers are down.

If you would like reasurance for security check www.cbot.com and www.cbotbuilding.com

That is our building and is heavly protected.

I am sorry about the delays but our site will be avaible soon and so will our service.

Thanks

Heh, agreed, if you read the post about the datacenter, then go to the kingcomp.net and look around, theres something very fishy about this offer. Also how they're offering 3 ppl on 10mbit port for $39/mo, but if you want the 10mbps to yourself, it's $200/mo, that would lead me to believe they have a lot more then 3 ppl per port, because why woudl bulk cost more then single quantity?

That would also explain why x213networks has an apparently lack of webpage, email, anything certifiable. Even when i type in x213 networks all i pull up is a few scattered warez pages, a topsite page, no other references, etc.

X213networks, are you incorporated? a registered business? whats your tax #? something is totally fishy about that and you at this point.

Oh, btw, if 3 ppl share a port, it dont mean they'll get 3mbps constant, by the sounds of it they've got dozens of people on each port, or they steal the boxes, cuz even if you buy cogent bandwidth in gbps ranges, it's not that cheap, and that wont cover tech, electricity, hvac, etc.

Oh, btw, no offense intended in any of my posts, i just find it extremely unlikely you go from discussing hanging racks from your basement ceiling, to owning a big datacenter in an established facility in < 1 month, but dont have email, webpage, etc.

well said, porcupine... I agree 110%:stickout

Insurance, liability of $1,000,000 per incident as well as property insurance is important as well. Something tells me that this guy and lots of others are overlooking the basics of running a business -- the B.S. as they like to call it, but the necessities as we know it.

Best,
Drew

Oh yeh, and x213 lives in new york (which has cogent) but his noc is in chicago (according to the whois from x213.com at least), that also just screams "not my noc" (not like i should talk, i live in a different country then mine, but i've got a partner).

Heh, I just know im gonna get reemed for this one *straps on some body armor*

I live in chicago

Proove yourself.

Ill take a toor

And whats your address exactly

Joe

Joe, do take a tour and do let us know. I am particularly interested. I had an email conversation with him and I was almost ready to go with it to test out Cogent but from the responses I really don't think I am. Very unorganized. It's not the $50/mo I'm worried about, it's the server I send over. I just hope I see it again, even if it is an old one. :)

Yes we are partners with the person who owns the noc.

If you don't want to agree to the offer don't.

We will not allow tours because we can't arrange them. If you live in chicago. Go down to the Board of Trade Building (North) and try to get in....I would like to see you try ITS IMPOSSIBLE.

Anyway. I thought I would bring out this deal before the company was finished doing the other things. However you don't obviously want this offer. I have many happy customers and will do with out the critisim.

There are only 3 People to a port. We do not utilize every mbp. We are legit. x213 Networks is an Inc.

We are in Suite #3602

Thank You

I believe you are legit. but you sure get defensive over some questioning of your business model, which flys in the face of what most of us do for a living. I guess that's the problem, we do it for a living.

DN

Lets try my questions for a third time:

Originally posted by Wolfy
Actual bandwidth or measured at 95%?

I guess there would be a cost for 'support issues', an hourly rate maybe?

Again, is there a cost for say 1/2 dozen reboots each month?

And here is another :

Originally posted by Wolfy
Also, and as for 95% uptime – I’d not be impressed if my server was down 1.5 days each month! Did you mean 99.5% maybe?

And lastly. If you are in a different city to the NOC, how does support work? .. Do you employ your own technicians or do you have an arrangement with the owner of the NOC? .. How much would you charge to replace a broken HDD for example?

Go down to the Board of Trade Building (North) and try to get in....I would like to see you try ITS IMPOSSIBLE. I have been in the Board of Trade Building many times, it's not that tough :) I will have to stop by the next time I am there and check things out.

Offer sounds interesting, but why do you not take rackmounted servers? I have an old cobalt raq i use for backups, I do not care if it is in a rack; you could stand it up on end??? Ya?

Can I please have a phone number to call.
Thanks

www.pyph.net:cartman:

Actually its not hard at all

My uncle and friends parents both own seats on the board of trade. On top of that the firm my Uncle is a partner of also has some serious pull down there.

Getting in, wont be a issue.

You being legit maybe

Joe

They only will give you trouble if you look like some Jihad muslum fighter hehe :D

Let's keep things Politically Correct here, for gosh sakes.
Jihad is a word that should be honoured*.


* This was intended for entertainment purposes only.

*amasses a mob* "hey, drewnick is one of 'em, lets get 'em!"

*chases after drewnick with a pitchfork and a flamethrower*

:kaioken:
:uzi: :D <-- drewnick
:flamethr:

Ok, thats my lame art for today :), i got dibs on his ribs though!

Please know I was joking.

Hehe, so was i, i thought with all my smilies you woulda noticed :)

Well I'm still offended -- and we're both off topic. ;-)

Tee-Hee, my appologies then :), not like it matters, unless people have e-mail replies on. But even so, im sure they appreciate my elite animated smiley arsenal =)

anyone got the server?

I want to hear Joe's experience if he can get a tour there.

If I send my comp for colo there and if you run out of business, what happend with my comp? Any guarantie? Some signed papers?

Thanks

You'd have more trouble enforcing signed papers than it'd be worth. Do you homework ahead of time and avoid any nightmare such as that. Not that you haven't already. but still -- just a thought. Lawyer's and court's fees are more than most PC's would be if you just took a loss.

Drew

If this is in a "NOC", then simply answer this:

1. Why don't you have rack support. If you buy from a colo company, they usually sell by the rack. They also sell by the cage, but I don't know of many "high quality" colocation companies that allow you to buy cage space and place servers across the floor.

2. Do you have a noc or just office space in a cogent lit building? Do you have backup power, etc... You can be in the nicest office building in the world, but that doesn't mean you have colocation facilities.

This just sounds too fishy. I resell cogent bandwidth and I know what it costs; and it seems you are selling at basically the cost of bandwidth (unless you bought a couple of gigabyte feeds on a cogent special) But if that were the case then you are paying in excess of 20k per month for your connection and you should be able to have a few racks I would think.

If you are in some expensive office building, you have to cover the price of real estate.

actually x213 this is that buildings procedure for visitors as of after September 11.
(c) All visitors must show a picture ID and have a tenant approve access into the building (as discussed in more detail below).

So aprove Jbiz to go in, if it is your space/partners space.

emoore: dont forget electricity, and electricity used by cooling the pc (HVAC) thats gotta be at least $20/mo. Maybe x213 is planning on doing this for a few months, getting 100-200 servers in there, declaring bankruptcy, and wandering off with everyones boxes or something of that nature? However immoral that might be, you could probably get away with about 150/200 servers (realistically, i mean lets admit it, posession is 9/10 of the law).

Power must be commonly overlooked. We are buying power AT COST from our IDC provider for $100/mo per 20A circuit. That's good clean Georgia Power power. (Had to say it)

Now, we put NO MORE than 80% load on the power and therefore no more than 16 servers. Sometimes 5 servers on one circuit if they have RAID/SCSI 16,000 RPM HD's, Dual CPU's, Redundant PS, etc.

So... at average capacity, with PC/Cobalt servers, we're paying the power company $10 per server for the power and probably at least that much for cooling although that info is not easily available. We'll see how they do during a deep freeze in Chicago, which is still possible. Luckily, it's near 65 F here now in Georgia.

Drew

The cost to cool a computer should be nearly the same as the cost to power the computer, because if you look at it logically, a computer turns 100 watts (or whatever it's using) of electricity directly into heat, so depending on how efficient your HVAC system is, you'll either pay the same amount to cool as you do to power (if you've got your own HVAC), or slightly more (remember some of it will be soaked up by the walls, windows, etc. depending on the ambient tempterature you like to keep your facility, if you're overheating, your walls/windows will do you a bigtime favor :)

You know, something just occured to me. I wonder if anyone lives within 10km of a cogent lit building, and has set themselves up with cogent at home by ordering cogent to their facility, then wireless (through radio wireless, or laser LOS link, or another similar technology) to their house..... think about it, move the high speed access to your home, setup cheaper boxes there.... *starts pondering* that would be kinda cool IMHO, i know you can buy nice wireless t3 transmitters/recievers (redundant) on ebay for like $10,000

I know for a fact that some people are buying Cogent circuits and then OC-3 loops out to their branch offices. It makes economical sense. The ATM line and Cogent bandwidth are still cheaper than UUNET bandwidth + ATM (SONET, whatever).

Cooling: As an aside a friend of mine reminded me never to cool your NOC TOO much -- once it gets below the dew point, your fans will start locking up and damange to all metal electrical surfaces can occur as they start condensating.

Drew

I dont think i've ever been in a NOC thats been cooled down very low, usually its at about fall temperature, you can still work in a tee-shirt in it. Cooling any more then that gets extremely expensive and has virtually no benefits. The real trick is to just keep the air moving through the PC cases fast, they're designed for the same temperature we are anyhow :)

You've never been to the ValueTech ARCTICNOC? :) Just kidding. I have been in some HOT ones. Rackshack's old location must have been hot, the CPU temp was consistently higher than RaQ4's hosted in house, and we are just right.

Drew

Only noc's i've been to are ones i've worked in though i realise this is relatively limited :). A university one (these aren't really NOC's, just server rooms) which housed some really old expensive equipment (servers on casters), even at the tiem they seemed pretty useless to me, but ppl were very happy with the $250,000+ POS servers for some strange reason. Only other was the NetInc. one when i worked at NetInc. Theirs wasn't bad, their AC failed and they never bothered to replace it cuz it didn't get *too* bad, it was usually about 25-35 deg. (c) in there (pretty hot, but not dangerously).

haha wooooh funny

We do send you a signed contract that states that you will get your computer back.

As far as cooling goes. We keep the room at around 65 Degrees Farenheit so its not to cold and not to hot.

We don't suppply support for Rack Mounts because we do not have racks. We are equiped with steel cages screwed to the walls and floors which we put our towers in. (We also pick towers because they cool easier and don't over heat like racks do)

(We will be getting racks and installing them so we will support rack mounts soon)

About getting a tour. As of now we don't want people touring our facility. Its all about security.

It may sound like we have our data center in an office....(Its is a converted office) But its not..... We are not like rackshack who has a glass encased NOC and rows and rows of Racks. When the site is up we will post pictures and show you what we really are....I am also planning on creating a flash presentation with a virtual tour so you can see what the dc looks like.

Thanks

I can assure you that some pictures, better grammer, and support for rackmount servers would make your business explode.

Drew

Originally posted by x213Networks

As far as cooling goes. We keep the room at around 65 Degrees Farenheit so its not to cold and not to hot.

We don't suppply support for Rack Mounts because we do not have racks. We are equiped with steel cages screwed to the walls and floors which we put our towers in. (We also pick towers because they cool easier and don't over heat like racks do)

(We will be getting racks and installing them so we will support rack mounts soon)

About getting a tour. As of now we don't want people touring our facility. Its all about security.

It may sound like we have our data center in an office....(Its is a converted office) But its not..... We are not like rackshack who has a glass encased NOC and rows and rows of Racks. When the site is up we will post pictures and show you what we really are....I am also planning on creating a flash presentation with a virtual tour so you can see what the dc looks like.

Thanks


Why do you continue to use the word 'WE'? I know Peter pretty well now and I know exactly who you are. You do NOT have anything else to do with this data center (it's not a NOC.. it's a data center) other than you are reselling the servers. Which is fine, but stop telling people it's YOURS.... it's NOT yours, you're not a partner there, you don't own part of it. No one can get a tour from you because you're NOT there and you have NO say so on who gets access to the facility. You've setup another ICQ account that shows you're 18 or 19 because found your original ICQ account to show you're 15. The only way it would say you're 15 is if you put down your birthdate to show your correct age.

You have told Peter that you are sending a rack to use and pay space for, which I guess so you can start offering rack space and try to give some credit to your claims.

It's ok to resell servers... I do it.. a lot of people do it. But don't claim something more than what you're really doing. The facility you're using has a good connection and good service... I've gotten several servers setup there now. But I don't consider myself a "partner".

Haha poor guy had to change his age to avoid being flamed. Age discrimination is present in this world, that's for sure. It's generally not a bad idea, either.

Good luck to everyone in that Chicago facility. If you succeed at this price then the rest of us are in deep trouble as I know we couldn't compete at this level and many more are in the same boat.

Drew

I think once the electricity bills hit he will be kissin 1/2 of his profit goodbye, then the other 1/2 to pay for the link. I can't picture x213 going anything past break even, and even that would need a lot of luck.

I know we engineers are closed-minded and not open to the newest and coolest thing as others are, but I can't fathom a datacenter of any kind without some sort of 19" enclosure. Be it rack or cabinet. I mean, what kind of routers do they have? "Sit on the floor" kind?

Drew

Originally posted by drewnick
I mean, what kind of routers do they have? "Sit on the floor" kind?


No no no.... Its the sit on top of desk, under coffee cup kind......
But they might have had to break for the foot rest kind....

Don't mean to but in...
We don't suppply support for Rack Mounts because we do not have racks. We are equiped with steel cages screwed to the walls and floors which we put our towers in. (We also pick towers because they cool easier and don't over heat like racks do)
So now they are your towers?!

<wry grin>

I just love the checks and balances that we provide here for each other.

Drew

One thing I don't see here is any complaints......If you doubt x213 Networks, FINE. Please do not make stupid posts repeating the exact same thing. As I may remind you this is the Advertising Forum not the cristism one. When one of our many happy clients makes a nice post in the WebHosting Forum I allow you the right to critisize the company.

It sickens me to see other companies stoop so low that just because they can't afford cheap prices they would like to put the competition our of biz. I will say this, If any of you want a server, get it or colocate with us, I assure you that you will be satisified. (Unless you just want to make a bad comment cause you feel like it).

I will never stoop so low as a buisness man and discrimate against another company.

Thank You

I agree that there are a lot of people who do nothing but try to kill their competition on these boards -- that does NO good in my book.

And look closely at your spelling and grammer. It can use some major touching up. A man who can write well can compete on more than just price. :-) Remember that competing on price is always a losing battle. Your costs will do nothing but increase as you get out of school.

I mean you used words like:
"cristism / critisize"
"discrimate"

Sound educated. I'm really not discrimating.

Drew

Originally posted by drewnick
And look closely at your spelling and grammer.

Uhhh.... that's grammar. :D

Originally posted by smartmlp
Don't mean to but in...

So now they are your towers?!

If you remember, they also have a deal for dedicated servers, so they do own some of them... :)

This thread reminds me of the kid in class that always got higher grades and was constantly called 'dumb' by jealous bullies :).

By the way, I have nothing to do with x213 other than being an extremely happy customer (because I got something really cool at a really good rate with no setup fee, and still great quality).

Originally posted by EzCool


If you remember, they also have a deal for dedicated servers, so they do own some of them... :)



No, HE doesn't own some of them. He just orders a dedicated server from a company then resells it to you for around a $10 profit. Nothing wrong with reselling servers though. I'm just trying to point out that it's prudent to be open about what you're offering.

WHAT IS THIS ABOUT!!!!!!!! You people are attacking me and my company for WHAT???? Obviously the prices are good and the service is good. WHAT THE PROBLEM.

Are you going to decide your choice of hosting on spelling?

I typed fast and made mistakes. EVERYONE does it.

If you do not have any constructive comments please do not say anything.

Lets all be gentlemen and ladies here.

Thank You

Are you running off of the building's AC or off of cooling units?

Also, do you have any sort of backup power in place?

Also, when you say 3 servers "share" a port, what do you mean? Are you hooking up a hub to each port on a 10mbps switch?


These are not questions that are talking bad about your service, but legitimate presales questions that the public should know.

x213, if you read the last chunk of posts, people aren't bashing you, they're stating you're a reseller.

Are you running off of the building's AC or off of cooling units?


We have our buildings AC's and backup ones that are activated if the other ones don't work.

We also have a battery generator that gives us power for around 5 hours.

Yes, we have a hub on one port of a 10mbps switch.

Thank You

do you even have a site yet?

....... is it a battery, or a generator? AFAIK it can't be both.... also, why are you using Hubs?!?! Hub's don't "share" bandwidth evenly, so one idiot can whore the whole 10mbps and leave all the other boxes with nothing. Just curious, how many tons are your AC units?

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=35901

Ok......I am sorry for causing these problems.....our datacenter is indeed KingComp.

I apologize for making a bunch crap up about the DC. I mislead you and am sorry.

However we don't RESELL. I hate seeing that because we don't. Kingcomp does not provide the services that we provide. (ex. support/ software installation/ soon providing different types of things such as game servers)

I should have been straight from the start.

Sorry for an inconvience.

Thank You

Ok.....here is some information about me and my company.

I am 15 years old. My birthday is 2-13-87. My father owns Time Source Inc.

I came here with a good idea and had a bunch of sources and wanted to get some money. I was stupid and shouldn't have lied.

I have 3 people working for me and I am very skilled in Windows 2000 Server Administration.

I came here unprepared and thought that I would be repected If I told the truth.

I was stupid and apologize.

Thank You and I hope you understand.

Also I am not the normal kid.....I don't think like a kid. My dad is a smart man who understands that I have tremendous knowledge and he invests in me, however I was stupid and screwed it up. Please accept this.

Thanks Again

Do you build the servers yourself, and did you wire your portion of the network with your own staff? Because if not, you resell. Just because you provide more support then the other provider does not mean you don't resell, not that theres anything wrong with reselling of course, and providing better technical support, and such is the key to sucessfully reselling a service, not merely hiding the host company from everyones eyes and pretending they don't exist.

I guess your right. But I do build some servers and send them. I guess your right about the services and support thing.

Its nice to know that I can be open now.

Thanks

All I want is the following:

1) What kind of connections do you have? Show me MRTG graphs of using the bandwidth you say you have.
2) Give me some IPs to test that are yours.
3) Give me pictures
4) Give me a phone number
5) Give me an address
6) Dont BS me.

1) What kind of connections do you have? Show me MRTG graphs of using the bandwidth you say you have.
2) Give me some IPs to test that are yours.
3) Give me pictures
4) Give me a phone number
5) Give me an address
6) Dont BS me.


Cogent Lines 100mbps.

66.28.242.106

http://ezcoolpages.com is that site.

Our address is:

332 New York Ave
Huntington NY 11743

We do not provide phone support of sales on phone. However I am sure you can look it up via some site with our address.

I will get some Pictures from the datacenter.

Thanks

X213,

I am glad you came forward it is all starting to make sense now. Well all except the deception part. LOL, You see you originally came here to form allies of sort and gain customers so the first rule to a successful business is not to BS you customers, especially when they are much more experienced then you are.

But hey I forgive you if that counts for anything, see if you are reselling (there is nothing wrong with that) you dont nesseccarily put it on the homepage but if asked it is your duty to release the information to who asks even if it is in a PM so you dont broadcast it. I think that if you had been honest you probably would have had alot more business by now I have been following this post for a while and whatching them put you in checkmate, (but hey you didnt run in a corner and now you are facing the music) thats what is really important.

Dont be embarrased about being a (reseller) I dont know that many people that started at the top, do you?

Now that the lecture is over I will get to the true reason for my post. For days now I have been waiting for you to come clean, ever since I read the post about you not having any server cabinets so you were only excepting towers. I have a 42 unit cab I am not using so if you contact me on pm maybe we can make a deal.

Good Luck on your ventures and remember honesty is the best policy

DOug

Originally posted by x213Networks
I guess your right. But I do build some servers and send them. I guess your right about the services and support thing.

Its nice to know that I can be open now.

Thanks

See, there you go again.... anyone want to contact Kingcomp directly and ask them if this not true... this kid has not sent a single server to them to colocate. He's got less than 10 servers he's either reselling or referred to KC as a sale.

I'm not jumping on this kid for any reason other than EVERYONE, and I'm not the only one, EVERYONE hates to be lied to. So here he comes admits he's a kid (ok.. nothing wrong with being a kid.. I use to be one but didn't try to get people to think I had 3 employees :) and after admitting his lies, he says he has built SOME servers and sent there. If he has sent servers he hasn't sent them to kingcomp according to Peter the owner there.


Now people take him serious and a potential customer asking him for NO BS. So what's the reply about a phone number? He tells the customer to look it up on some site! :eek:

I give him credit though.... most people would have turned and left by now. At least he has the balls to stick to it :)

here i am preeching and all that and making deals and he is still bsing me...well put a stick up my @ss and call me a sucker

Originally posted by x213Networks


http://ezcoolpages.com is that site.



Pretty cool design. Does your webmaster outsource? I'm in need of some new site work (honestly).

I don't even think ezcoolpages.com is his, it's one of his clients (im fairly sure) because they had contacted me and were interested in dedicated/colocated servers as well, i don't think x213 has a server at his own facility (could be wrong, but if he did, why did he give a clients server for info).

Originally posted by porcupine
I don't even think ezcoolpages.com is his, it's one of his clients (im fairly sure) because they had contacted me and were interested in dedicated/colocated servers as well, i don't think x213 has a server at his own facility (could be wrong, but if he did, why did he give a clients server for info).

Yes true... I am in need of two site designs honestly... but I was curious to what he was going to say with that design. That's a free template from freewebpagetemplates.com (or something like that.. I'll have to look up the url if that isn't correct), and you're supposed to keep the link at the bottom of the template if you use it for commercial purposes as credit to the designer :)

It was overpriced. You think a designer would actually want credit.

Unless he has changed since you posted.

No ezcoolpages.com is not mine its a clients. x213.com should be up soon. I have been having trrouble decideing which os to shoot for and I went from redhat to windows to freebsd back to windows and now to redhat. LOL.

I do design work :D As you will see when I finally finish my site.

I am working with Peter to get some servers. (My Own) I build my own computers. But haven't sent any to peter yet.

Thanks

P.S I put ezcoolpages.com because it carries a big load.

Thanks Again

Forgot.....I do have employees who carry extra work in exchange for hosting and my dad works for Free (acccountant) LOL......

Also I don't give out the number because I don't offer that type of support or sales support.

If you sign up, you can get a number that you can use in emergency or if something breaks.....ect. ect

Thanks

ect. ect etc. etc. :)

Originally posted by x213Networks
But I do build some servers and send them.

Its nice to know that I can be open now.

Originally posted by x213Networks
I build my own computers. But haven't sent any to peter yet.


Wow . . . I'm sorry, but even after you say you have come clean, your stories are still changing . . .

Honesty may not be the quickest way to get rich, but it does a lot better than getting caught in deception.

SonServer

Never sent any to kincomp but have to other places such as a datacenter located in Mount Sina Long Island

From http://www.freesitetemplates.com/faq2/fbin/faq_view.cgi?index=595

Do I have to keep the links at the bottom of the template pages for Copyright and "Powered by: Free Site Templates"?

No, you do not.

The Copyright line is there to show you where to put your copyright and contact information. They also serve to protect Free Site Templates' copyrights while the templates are being displayed on our servers and to keep other free sites from posting our templates as their own.


The "Powered by:" link is there as a gentle suggestion that we would appreciate a link somewhere on your site.

So leave me alone ;).

But on a more serious note, reseller or not, the server's running good and fast, so... :beer:

ezcoolpages.com is a Dreamweaver template. Just FYI.

i wish i was like him when i was 15 id be rich by now :) u know one day he will have it all figured out and by then he will be still be pretty young probably

look at how much he learned in one thread already!

Just curious, can a 15 year old legally be in business? Get business lic, reseller permit, pay taxes ect???:confused:

Glad you asked. YES

I don't own anything. My dad legally owns the biz and I am just a worker. The tax id is under Time Source Inc.

So yes it is legal.

Thanks

Originally posted by sasjamal
i wish i was like him when i was 15 id be rich by now :) u know one day he will have it all figured out and by then he will be still be pretty young probably

look at how much he learned in one thread already!

If you were like him when you were 15, you'd be in Sing-Sing Prison or lying in a ditch right about now..... ;)

Just my two cents

x213 must be the number of times he's going to change his story / try to screw people before he stops... :puke:

What's the point of telling everyone your fifteen??

It doesn't earn you any extra brownie points and it makes people unsure of your capabilities (since most teens just think of sex, more sex, boarding, chilling).

Originally posted by Eugenie98
(since most teens just think of sex, more sex, boarding, chilling).

and you didn't?


(j/k) :D :stickout

This thread is one big mess.. I've had enough :)