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View Full Version : Fraud Caller wants to "Verify Domain"
cnm72 11-10-2004, 04:18 PM lately I have been receiving several calls on my cell phone form an unfamiliar number usually this call is during work hours so I can't pick up but today I did...
seems that this company is wanted to verify my information for a domain which I just registered... they were the company I used to register the domain itself... they wanted my full name and email address... neither of which I confirmed...
the company is called "DataCom"... their number is 1.646.495.1979
when I asked for a number to call them back the "Rep" told me they could not give this too me
???
sounds like a fraud company to me
:angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
fraud really gets me steaming so I am thinking what to do form here... I am going to contact the company I used to register the domain and try to track down the number... I also want to block it from calling me again...
blah... I just had to share this
cnm72 11-10-2004, 06:15 PM so sorry... major edit below... I don't type well when I am upset
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lately I have been receiving several calls on my cell phone from an unfamiliar number... usually this call is during work hours so I can't pick up but today I did...
seems that this company wanted to "verify" my information for a domain which I recently registered... they were not the company I used to register the domain itself... they wanted my full name and email address which I refused to give them...
the company is called "DataCom"... their number is 1.646.495.1979
when I asked for a number to call them back the "Rep" told me they could not give this too me
???
sounds like a fraud company to me
etc...etc...
Acroplex 11-10-2004, 07:05 PM Use another Registrar next time. :)
gghosting 11-10-2004, 07:37 PM Contact your registrar and tell them about the phone call you got.
jackpot 11-10-2004, 07:49 PM If you have registered through one of the reputed domain registrars ( godaddy.com, enom.com etc ), you can avail support from them... Just contact their support and have it strongly escalated....
cnm72 11-11-2004, 02:18 AM apparently it was a dataminer... bah!
how can I have my legit info in the WhoIs without being a victim?
never mind... that is a rhetorical question... I guess it is the price you pay for owning your own business
kohashi 11-11-2004, 11:18 AM po box, voicemail box, name like 'domain admin' and a whois email account.
sounds pretty good to me.
kohashi 11-11-2004, 11:18 AM http://www.j2.com/jconnect/twa/page/homePage?CMP=OTC-US
that was the phone/fax service I was thinking of.
dmaven 11-11-2004, 05:00 PM I get this on names I do not have whois protection enabled on. Usually it is the dorks at aplus.net calling.
DesElms 11-19-2004, 07:21 PM Here's what to do:1) Register your phone number -- even a cell phone and/or even a toll-free number -- with the Federal Trade Commission's National Do-not-call Registry (https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx).
2) Wait three months... during which time you must endure the telemarketers calling you; but during which time also you have the legal right to instruct them, point blank, to never call you again and, under Federal law, they must heed. Regardless, always write down the name of the company, their phone number, the name of the person calling, the date and time, and the number at which they called you. Hold on to that information.
3) After three months, whenever they call, instruct them, again, to stop callingwhile simultaneously reminding them that even before there was a National Do-not-call Registry (https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx) they were legallly obligated to stop calling you if you requested them to do so; but then point out to them that you have, in fact, since registered your number with the National Do-not-call Registry (https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx) and that if they call you again you will file a complaint (https://www.donotcall.gov/Complain/ComplainCheck.aspx) which could result in them being fined over $11,000 per unsolicited telephone call incident. Then hang-up (but only after you've written down all the stuff I advised you to collect about the call in item 2, above, of course).
4) Simply file a complaint (https://www.donotcall.gov/Complain/ComplainCheck.aspx) against anyone who calls and doesn't get the message.All businesses doing telemarketing of any sort -- including telemarketing disguised as something else -- should carefully read the Do-not-Call Registry's FAQ (https://www.donotcall.gov/FAQ/FAQBusiness.aspx); and they should spend the money to avail themselves of professional phone list scrubbers (http://www.donotcallprotection.com/) so that they do not accidentally call numbers that are in the National Do-not-call Registry (https://www.donotcall.gov/default.aspx).
absolethe 11-19-2004, 11:03 PM I thought that registry was going to be null because some court or the other said it had no legal basis.
I got the same kind of call from few months back, he said that he is calling from godaddy and told me that all the whois information listed on my domain is incorrect and he wanted me to give the correct details.:eek:
DesElms 11-20-2004, 03:59 AM Originally posted by absolethe
I thought that registry was going to be null because some court or the other said it had no legal basis. That's just telemarketer propaganda; or, more accurately, lies.
It was challenged -- several times and in several places -- as expected. Finally, last February, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled as follows:"We hold that the do-not-call registry is a valid commercial speech regulation because it directly advances the government’s important interests in safeguarding personal privacy and reducing the danger of telemarketing abuse without burdening an excessive amount of speech. In other words, there is a reasonable fit between the do-not-call regulations and the government’s reasons for enacting them."This was the result that activists, like me, expected. The list kicked-in in October 2003, and we all knew the telemarketers would take a few months to get all their whining and lawsuit filing out of the way. But February's ruling effectively put an end to it, despite a telemarketer appeal of the 10th Circuit's ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court last Spring. Finally, this past October 4, 2004, that appeal was disposed of once and for all. On that day the the U.S. Supreme Court rejected the appeal without comment, thereby letting stand (or effectively upholding) the lower Court's ruling.
And with that, it was over... for the telemarketers, that is.
The registry is alive and well; and, moreover, it actually works. One merely needs to take the time to learn about it (https://www.donotcall.gov/FAQ/FAQConsumersNew.aspx), and how to leverage it as a tool. Some telemarketers, of course, will ignore it... but the clock ticks on their bad behavior. As of last February's 10th Circuit ruling, during the only fifth month that the registry had been in effect, over 10,000 telemarketer complaints had been filed with the FTC. In the months since, both Federal and State authorities have begun enforcement. Here are just a few examples:
The FCC recently completed its first enforcement action for violation of the national Do Not Call registry. In this case, a telecommunications company hired a telemarketer to make calls on its behalf; the FCC investigated and ultimately fined the company. Pursuant to a consent decree adopted on September 7, 2004, the company made a “voluntary” contribution to the United States Treasury in the amount of $400,000.
The FTC recently unveiled a complaint against a particularly egregeous Nevada-based telemarketer. The specific violations alleged: 300,000 calls made to Do Not Call numbers; 10,000 calls to telephone numbers in area codes without the seller, on whose behalf the company was calling, first paying the necessary national registration fee for those area codes; and “numerous” violations of the FTC’s abandonment rules. The complaint (filed August 30th, 2004) seeks monetary civil penalties, a permanent injunction, and other equitable relief. Setting aside the requested injunction and other equitable relief, the potential civil penalties in this case are staggering – not even including the alleged abandoned call violations, the FTC asks the court to award up to $3.4 BILLION in fines against this arrogant Nevada-based telemarketer.
Virginia recently filed its first lawsuit to enforce the federal DNC list. At least 66 Virginians reported that the company in question contacted them to market vacation packages after they had placed their numbers on the registry. Fines at the state level range from $500 to $1,500.
A Florida-based travel business has agreed to refund more than $35,000 to customers who were on the state DNC list but were contacted by telephone.
Ohio has filed its first lawsuit against a company for violating the state’s DNC law. The company is accused of calling Ohio consumers who registered with Ohio’s DNC list, and failing to register as a telemarketer with the state. (This is the first action in Ohio concerning the state DNC law; Ohio has already enforced the federal DNC registry on several occasions.)
And the list goes on...
Telemarketers who refuse to abide by the rules will eventually find themselves paying hefty fines. For some of the really big telemarketers, such fines will feel like a mosquito bite and they will just pay them and keep ignoring the law. But the FTC has pledged to circle back to arrogant re-offenders and levy fines in amounts that even they can't ignore. The $3.4 billion action against the large Nevada telemarketer is just one example of that.
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