We are running a special on the following dedicated server setup:

$225/month.

9gb SCSI RAID storage
40gb EIDE storage512mb RAM
700mhz P-3 Processor
25gb bw

**Free Setup
**Free Remote Reboot Access
**1-Day Setup Time

contact bbrader@hostrocket.com for more info.

-Brendan

Time to get with the times. Your price with bandwidth is far above what many in the industry are now offering.

Best to all.

JT

> 9gb SCSI RAID storage

I don't get it - is this two 4.5 GB SCSI drives? How can you have RAID with a single SCSI disk?

> 25gb bw

Is there a 0 missing there? Your price is extremely high compared to Rackshack for example:

Rackshack- 300 GB
Hostrocket - 25 GB

Rackshack - 1000 Mhz
Hostrocket - 700 Mhz

Rackshack - $99/month (or ~$150 with the setup fee over the first year of service)
Hostrocket - $225/month

The second hard drive is nice, and the SCSI is nice (though I don't undertsand RAID with what looks like a single disk.)

Looks like a pretty high price for not very much bandwidth at all.

Heh,

You can't compare most services to rackshack. Rackshack has millions of $$$ to spend, can swoop in somewhere like walmart and crush pesky competition, and can generally keep lower prices. But look at the bad side of that. You get a cookie-cutter plan, if it doesen't suit your needs, tough luck, and i hear their tech support is very slow/congested due to the sheer number of customers they have :).

But i do agree, wtf is with 9gb scsi raid, and why would you have a tiny raid drive, then a big ide drive? why not just do raid 2x60 gb 7200 rpm IDE raid?

Originally posted by scott2
> 9gb SCSI RAID storage

I don't get it - is this two 4.5 GB SCSI drives? How can you have RAID with a single SCSI disk?

> 25gb bw

Is there a 0 missing there? Your price is extremely high compared to Rackshack for example:

Rackshack- 300 GB
Hostrocket - 25 GB

Rackshack - 1000 Mhz
Hostrocket - 700 Mhz

Rackshack - $99/month (or ~$150 with the setup fee over the first year of service)
Hostrocket - $225/month

The second hard drive is nice, and the SCSI is nice (though I don't undertsand RAID with what looks like a single disk.)

Looks like a pretty high price for not very much bandwidth at all.

You guys are extremly spoiled by Rackshack's bandwidth offerings, they oversell their bandwidth like hell, this offer is pretty reasonable because thay are using quality bandwidth... If Rackshack and cogent wern't around you'd be paying prices something like this

Keep in mind that there is a total difference in quality between cogent bandwidth and a true tier 1

This is a good offer

Joe

Originally posted by JBIZ718
Keep in mind that there is a total difference in quality between cogent bandwidth and a true tier 1

That's 100% true if rackshack only use cogent. But that's not the case; rackshack has at least 4-5 different providers, cogent is just one among them ... Are they overselling? Hm ... looking at their traffic patter, they don't seem to be overselling (so much room to grow on their lines). In conclusion, i don't think neither cogent or overselling bandwith is the reason why rackshack can sell its bandwith cheaply.

cheers,
:beer:

"In conclusion, i don't think neither cogent or overselling bandwith is the reason why rackshack can sell its bandwith cheaply. " dektong

Unfortually because the majority of there transfer is tier 2 or 3 network, that is exactly why they can sell bandwidth so cheap.

You bring in carriers like Sprint, At&t, UUnet, and Cable and Wireless who have global peering points around the globe, and your costs go up

Here are there carriers:
Time Warner
Verio
Savvis
ELI
Cogent

But this is a good deal from HR

I agree, I get tired of everyone comparing to Rackshack. There are a few things that most people don't know. Rackshack gives you 1 IP. Then it's $1.00 per IP per month with a $25.00 setup fee each time your request more. Plus they offer no support, not even pay support.

Remember you do get what you pay for.

As for bandwidth. Not true, you can offer Tier 1 providers and still get a decent bang for your buck. Do a search. It can be done guys.

Know your competition...hehe

Also, dont forget that most people in here are webhosts, not gamehosts, or shellhosts or anything like that. Frankly, what does a tier-1 provider offer over multiple tier 2-3 providers aside from superior latency.

As long as your packets get there with webhosting, what difference does it really make? If they take 115 ms compared to 60 ms, will any of your clients ever notice, i say it's likely 95% of people wouldn't ever bother to check.

As long as your packets get to their destination in < 150 ms, and you get the bandwidth you pay for, and the uptime, is it really worth paying 10x the price for a "tier 1" provider? And if you excuse that cogent has bad uptime, thats just not true, not like it matters in rackshack's scenario, because they've got like 5 other providers to fall back on should cogent have downtime.

There's something you have to realize, and I'm not touting HR here, or recommending them, these are just general comments...

Even if you had the *exact* same server, with the *exact* same configuration and parts, with the *exact* same OS and software, sitting on the *exact* same network (same providers, same bandwidth, same connectivity overall), in the *exact* same datacenter (same features, security, etc., etc., etc.), and so on... there are still a slew of reasons that the pricing could vary $100+, even disregarding included bandwidth.

While I am in no way commenting on the quality of either provider, based on price alone, you can't walk into a BMW dealer and freak out over the pricing, and compare it to a Toyota Camry. Both great cars, but there are other factors to consider. Again, I'm not saying HR is a BMW and RS is a Toyota Camry, please don't misunderstand the point.

Originally posted by Chicken
There's something you have to realize, and I'm not touting HR here, or recommending them, these are just general comments...

Even if you had the *exact* same server, with the *exact* same configuration and parts, with the *exact* same OS and software, sitting on the *exact* same network (same providers, same bandwidth, same connectivity overall), in the *exact* same datacenter (same features, security, etc., etc., etc.), and so on... there are still a slew of reasons that the pricing could vary $100+, even disregarding included bandwidth.

While I am in no way commenting on the quality of either provider, based on price alone, you can't walk into a BMW dealer and freak out over the pricing, and compare it to a Toyota Camry. Both great cars, but there are other factors to consider. Again, I'm not saying HR is a BMW and RS is a Toyota Camry, please don't misunderstand the point.

From direct personal experience I'd say HR is more in line with a Dodge Neon.

Originally posted by 311


You guys are extremly spoiled by Rackshack's bandwidth offerings, they oversell their bandwidth like hell, this offer is pretty reasonable because thay are using quality bandwidth... If Rackshack and cogent wern't around you'd be paying prices something like this

YUP!!! =)

Originally posted by Freddy
Time to get with the times. Your price with bandwidth is far above what many in the industry are now offering.

Best to all.

JT

Actually for a SCSI Raid Server with 25GB Tier 1 bandwidth that is a very good price

As for those comparing this with Rackshack .. please stop the nonsence .. if you like rackshak that much, then get a server from them, but do not tell the other provider they have to offer the same price, becuase this is comparing Apples to Oranges

Originally posted by scott2
[B> 25gb bw

Is there a 0 missing there? [/B]

Do you even realise the price of 250GB on a Tier 1?

What is this, do people think that DS3s from a Tier 1 now cost 1000 bucks a month or something ?

Just to get back on the topic :) I'm also curious what's that 9GB SCSI RAID all about. Two drives or not...?

Ales

Originally posted by MikeA
As for bandwidth. Not true, you can offer Tier 1 providers and still get a decent bang for your buck. Do a search. It can be done guys.

That might be true, but you will never see 300GB of Tier 1 for 99.00 ;)

I've seen Verio deals, where you get bandwidth for as low as $150/MBPS, and that's with a dedicated server (Keep in mind this came with 20 MBPS, and cost around $2900). Anything is possible if you buy in big enough bulk from companies, most of the tier ones have so much installed capacity that for the right buck they'll give you a lot more bang/buck :)

I agree, I get tired of everyone comparing to Rackshack. There are a few things that most people don't know. Rackshack gives you 1 IP. Then it's $1.00 per IP per month with a $25.00 setup fee each time your request more. Plus they offer no support, not even pay support.
How many IP's do you think I would need???

Sorry to keep comparing but:
Rackshack = 300 GB / $99 a month
Hostrocket = 25 GB / $225 a month and maybe $2-3/GB for more bandwidth (can't find that info on their site).

So if I used 150 GB of bandwidth that would be $99 at RackShack or $575 at HostRocket. Taking that difference, even with RackShack's $1.00 per IP, I could afford 450+ IP's...

As for those comparing this with Rackshack .. please stop the nonsence .. if you like rackshak that much, then get a server from them, but do not tell the other provider they have to offer the same price, becuase this is comparing Apples to Oranges

Based on the posts about RackShack and other providers this doesn't appear to be the case. There have been a few problems with RackShack reported, but this is the case with most of the hosting companies as well (e.g. Burst). I've seen talk about speed tests, but I haven't seen numbers which show RackShack to be noticably slower than other hosts.

Originally posted by scott2
Sorry to keep comparing but:
Rackshack = 300 GB / $99 a month
Hostrocket = 25 GB / $225 a month and maybe $2-3/GB for more bandwidth (can't find that info on their site).

So if I used 150 GB of bandwidth that would be $99 at RackShack or $575 at HostRocket. Taking that difference, even with RackShack's $1.00 per IP, I could afford 450+ IP's...

Ok, if you need 1 IP you are cool, but lets run some numbers. Rackshack requires 80% usage (just like everyone else) so you can't request 200 IP's at once and not have at least 175 sites ready to use them.

So with that in mind. You request 16 IP's you pay $25 setup and $16 per month.
Two days later you request another 16 for another $25 setup and $16 per month.
A week days later you request another 16 for another $25 setup and $16 per month.
A week days later you request another 16 for another $25 setup and $16 per month.

Ok, now a month has passed and you have paid $100 setup for 64 IP's and you are paying an additional $64 per month. Lets add all of this up:

$100 per month
$400 Setup Fee
$64 for IP's
$100 setup for IP's
-------
$664 (total for the first month)
$164 (each month thereafter, provided you don't request more IP's)

Now, provided you don't request any more IP's, over the course of the first year you pay an average of $205 per month (11 * $164 + $664).

Then take a look in these forums for people offering $150 +$150 setup per month for service with unlimited IP's (or 50+) but not as much actual bandwidth. Who wants to pay that extra money just to have a few GB of extra bandwidth? Lets also remember that you average host puts 150 sites per machine, so with Rackshack, each month you'd be paying $250 for that same box you could get elsewhere for $150.

I'm not saying Rackshack is a bad company. Just that you need to be careful and not see $99 per month for 300GB of bandwidth and go "WOW, that's the company for me". There are several other questions you need to be asking them, or any other provider. How many IP's do I get? Do you offer Support? What backbones do you use? Are there any other fee's that I need to be aware of?

While I am in no way suggesting lightone, they are my competition, they have a better deal than Rackshack (or they used to). Take a search in the forums for them. If I'm not mistaken, same deal but with free justifiable IP's.

Carlos: You are 100% right. No one will be offering 300GB of Tier 1 bandwidth for $100 per month.

Ok, I've ranted enough.