It's me again. I have few reasons to believe that GX Hosting is gonna CLOSE UP and run away with ALL customers' credit card info.

1. As I said in my last post, their triple bill me in November. (to get more $$$ before they run)

2. I tried to phone and fax them according the numbers on their WHOIS record, which I think is still the same as before, and both of them returned a disconnection message from the phone company. (to save as much $$$ as they can before they run)

3. I emailed them at support@gx, info@gx, urgent@gx and all of them are directed to an autoresponder of some stupid message. (no wonder..)

4. The domain GXHOSTING.COM used to be registered with Dotster. For some reason, they transferred the domain to NSI on Oct 19 but still haven't paid the domain name yet (you can check this at NSI payment page). They probably want to take advantage of NSI not deleting any names, and so they can keep it for much longer time (save $$$!!!)

I hope ALL GX customers be warned by these *symptoms* and be prepared to what they are gonna do soon. I already told my credit card company about this and sent a cancellation email to GX (they probably won't read it). So if GX charge me again, I can show my card company my proof of email and they said they will chase them for me.

Good luck all existing GX customers!

*Sniff, sniff*

What's that I smell?

Wow, you have such an imagination. Be careful with all of these accusations unless you can proof it, that's all I will say for now. I know you're still upset and like I said I haven't heard anyone else complain yet but you so be careful. Just an advice.

Originally posted by josh
2. I tried to phone and fax them according the numbers on their WHOIS record, which I think is still the same as before, and both of them returned a disconnection message from the phone company.

4. The domain GXHOSTING.COM used to be registered with Dotster. For some reason, they transferred the domain to NSI on Oct 19 but still haven't paid the domain name yet (you can check this at NSI payment page).

Since it is 5 a.m. and I couldn't sleep, I checked on these things. The toll-free number listed on the whois (which does indeed show the name gxhosting.com as expired, Oct. 19, 2000), forwarded to 732-845-9989, which has been changed (not disconnected), to 732-617-9989. It is an active voice mail number (as far as I could tell). The fax number has been disconnected.

I agree with Josh.
1. Domain transferred to NetSol, why
2. Not paid: true, why (they made $75000/year)

Anyway, who is interested in gxhosting? NOBODY
it's "just another alabanza host"
too many alabanza hosts out there.

Ppl should try "new webhosts" like
those new VDI-based webhosts (far better)

By the way, ALL VDI-based webhosts have
excellent reviews. Try to find an VDI-based
webhost with BAD reviews: YOU CAN'T!

This is going to start another flame war, I can smell it.

But, as far as there being too many Alabanza hosts out there, you are way off base. There are many hosts that are leasing from Alabanza, but that does not make them all equal. Some a good, some are not so good. Just because they leased from Alabanza does not make them like all the rest.

Remember, the true strength of a hosting company comes from customer service.

True, uptime is a concern and so is administration (that's where the beauty of the Alabanza servers come in) but without support and good customer service, ANY hosting company will be terrible. Leasing from Alabanza just makes sure that the technical end is somewhat reliable.

Alabanza host is not the cause of the problem. I have to say that many Alabanza hosts provide excellent customer services and server performance. The only company that upset me is - GX Hosting.

It's GX Hosting who triple-billed me, not Alabanza.

It's GX Hosting who cut of the phone lines, not Alabanza.

It's GX Hosting who direct all emails to autoresponder, not Alabanza.

It's GX Hosting who moved their domain, not Alabanza.

I don't wish this thread turn out to be against Alanbanza, while GX Hosting is the one that should be accused.

Originally posted by WeinBar
This is going to start another flame war, I can smell it.
See the second post in this thread.

Originally posted by RejectHM
I agree with Josh.
1. Domain transferred to NetSol, why
2. Not paid: true, why (they made $75000/year)

Anyway, who is interested in gxhosting? NOBODY
it's "just another alabanza host"
too many alabanza hosts out there.

Ppl should try "new webhosts" like
those new VDI-based webhosts (far better)

By the way, ALL VDI-based webhosts have
excellent reviews. Try to find an VDI-based
webhost with BAD reviews: YOU CAN'T!


You know, this post just shows what this board is turning into. Gutless cowards posting anonymously to try and damage other companies. I don't know a lot about these hosting companies that post on this board. And I don't know who is really good and who isn't. What I do know is that more and more I see good reviews turn into a flame war started by some gutless anonymous coward. For example:

Topic starter: I want to use xhostxcompany. Does anyone know anything about them?

registered poster: yes they host my site, i am happy.

2nd registered poster: yes my site is hosted there, i like them.

3rd registered poster: i haven't hosted there but I have seen some comments about them, do a search here and other forums and see whay you find.

Gutless anonymous coward: They suck, they are on alabanza, alabanza sucks, all vdi hosts are better.

Why is this allowed to go on? Does anyone else notice this? Is anyone else getting tired of seeing these same cowards try and damage other companies reputations? I thought this board was to help people.

Sadly it's pretty much the way of the internet. Always has been, probably always will be. What starts as a good thing ends up ruined by a 'screaming minority' who rarely have anything constructive to say.

Personally I'll still be reading and posting here for a long time yet as it's still a great forum. I've learnt a lot here and hope people learn something from me at times. :) 90% of the people are great. Knowledge and advise are freely given. And so far there's a nice feeling of people genuinely attempting to help each other out.

Best thing to do is skip over the wanky posts and make the most of the good stuff.

Greg Moore

Yep ... you said it all my friend

"Wanky"...?

etLux scrambles to dictionary.com to find this new and intriguing word...

http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=wank

Ah. Just so, surely.

etLux

you are a sick sick person :D

I agree with Nashoba. I just saw that Annette has stopped posting at this board and I believe it is due to this childish nonsense. The moderators need to take a stand and clean up this forum before it goes down the toilet.

Looks like we have a troll again.... Who may get an unpleasant surprise should he try to start more flame wars again.

For your information, RejectHM, GXHosting has the worst reputation of all Alabanza hosts. Searches all over this forum, others, and the rest of the Web will back it up.

And I won't even bother to dignify a reply to your short-assed claims about VDI vs. Alabanza.

Originally posted by Paul_Szymanski
I just saw that Annette has stopped posting at this board and I believe it is due to this childish nonsense. The moderators need to take a stand and clean up this forum before it goes down the toilet.

I noted Annette's post, as well; and this would be a sad loss for WHT. She has unfailingly been a voice of sanity and reason, as well as a considerable technical asset to us all.

As for what manner of recussion moderators might apply to alleviate the influx of what were aptly called "wanky posts" above, though, I'm at a bit of a loss.

Perhaps it's best to let them just show themselves as the fools they are, and depend on the sense of the general forum to distinguish them from legitimate posters; yet, still, they do stand to do serious damage in cases where the reader is unwary.

When did Annette announce she wasn't posting here anymore?

Just quietly, for RejectHM's notice, I can always pop in tomorrow morning to your Balwyn warehouse and have a little chat to you about your points of view. Would you like me to drop in?

Jag, read the thread again.

Paul, I'll put it this way : we do what we can, but we can't please all parties. The regs will know exactly what I'm talking about.


[Edited by BC on 11-25-2000 at 06:32 PM]

Nashoba, you probably dunno much about GX Hosting. You tell me, if a host triple-billed a customer and the company cannot be reached in any way, did I do anything wrong to bring it up?

If a company has good reputation itself, it would not be affected no matter how ppl attack it. GX is definitely not one.

Nashoba, what do you mean we are gutless and post anonymously? Are you not posting anonymously as well? If you are not one of the gutless cowards, why don't you put you real name, email, and your site here?

You can't control how ppl post here. Even they are all bullshitting, so? Free speech on the internet. People post bullshits, but you are the one reading it. What can I say?

BC, I see now that the Annette comment was just a ploy to get something going here. Thanks

Josh, Nashoba wasn't talking about you. She was talking about 'RejectHM'. Calm down :) - we've all seen the GXHosting debacle (if you search this forum you'll find plenty).

Originally posted by josh
Nashoba, you probably dunno much about GX Hosting. You tell me, if a host triple-billed a customer and the company cannot be reached in any way, did I do anything wrong to bring it up?

If a company has good reputation itself, it would not be affected no matter how ppl attack it. GX is definitely not one.

Nashoba, what do you mean we are gutless and post anonymously? Are you not posting anonymously as well? If you are not one of the gutless cowards, why don't you put you real name, email, and your site here?

You can't control how ppl post here. Even they are all bullshitting, so? Free speech on the internet. People post bullshits, but you are the one reading it. What can I say?

Josh, I'm sorry I wasn't talking about you. I am talking about people that post that don't register and only post to try and damage other company's reputations. Like this rejecthm person. It seems that his only purpose is to slam all Alabanza hosts and blame the problems that you are having with GX on them Alabanza and saying that all Alabanza hosts are like this.

As far as GXHosting I have read enough about them at different forums to know that they are a shady company. I wish you luck in trying to get them to stop billing you. I probably should've just started a new topic. Sorry. I didn't mean for this to turn into another flame war.

And it looks like just that, now other hosts are posting here about Annette trying to start something. How does this have anything to do with her?? See I just don't get it!!

Oh where I am I supposed to put my name? I only have a place for username. And I did put my email address in my profile. Where else am I supposed to put it?

Nashoba, easy there... Time for a time-out and coffee.

The other hosts are posting out of concern for Annette - if you re-read the post you'll see Annette has said she's permanently leaving (and I don't blame her, nor will I stop her from leaving as it's not my choice).

BC, wheres this Annette post? I re-read this topic and couldn't find it. You can just email me if you like, Im curious to see what was said.

Well maybe I've had too much coffee. :D heh

Sorry Jag, Annette's deleted her posts....

Originally posted by jaguar
BC, I see now that the Annette comment was just a ploy to get something going here. Thanks

This is out of concern? What concern is he expressing here?

Well after BC said to re-read the thread I did. I did not find the Annette post so from reading the existing posts it appeared as though someone stated that Annette wasnt posting here perhaps to just start something. I beleived that becuase the post was also made anonymously, I aparantly was wrong and apologize for that post since she did indeed say she wasn't posting here anymore. My concern was for Annette, I didn't want to see her bashed here. Once again , sorry. Lets move on folks.

She did post that she was not coming here anymore, but it was not in this thread.

I had some posts in this thread and others, but have deleted them - in the event that people wonder about the breaks in conversation, such as the person who ICQ'd me. I'm also leaving this forum for good, so if you need to contact me, email is the way to do it.

[Edited by Annette on 11-25-2000 at 01:27 PM]

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=3190&pagenumber=2

It's really sad because she seemed to be a very knowledgeable person and did alot of good here.

I am still confused as to what went on and why she left because the threads are skewed from deleted posts, but I hope it is something we can learn from so other valuable, likeable people do not leave as well.

I beleive that many people here are having a boring saturday :)

Relax and think 2 seconds before bashing at each others :)

Nashoba, please accept my apologies...

Maybe I'm getting to mad about GX...

Sorry

Originally posted by Alex
I am still confused as to what went on and why she left because the threads are skewed from deleted posts, but I hope it is something we can learn from so other valuable, likeable people do not leave as well.

What you can learn from it is that people will nit-pick about just about anything and as a host you have to ignore it. If you can't ignore it then it is probably better than you take a time out :) Sean from Burst also had quite a time here, but needed a break as well I think. She's been typing on the boards for quite some time, and sometimes you just get burnt out. I'm not speaking for her, rather just presenting some possible reasons. If she had wanted to explain it, she would have.

Josh, no problem. I totally understand. I came to these forums after having a horrible experience with a web host. It can be a very frustrating experience, especially when there is really nothing that you can do to protect yourself from things such as overbilling. And it seems like there is no recourse for consumers in this area.

Chicken: I have seen some posts made by Sean and I think that comparing Annette to Sean is a horrible insult, to Annette. I can't believe you would even think that they were similar. Since reading this forum I have learned a lot about hosting. Annette and ALL of the other regulars on this board have posted some extremely helpful information. Day in and day out they are here giving their advise and helping people technically. Sean is not a regular and not what I would consider especially helpful. The only thing I ever saw him post were snotty messages to his clients after they got no response to the emails they sent to support. Wow, I just don't see how you would try to compare the two.

I agree... I'm definately not burnt out, but I do enjoy taking some time back from time to time and... WORK ;)

Originally posted by Nashoba
Chicken: I have seen some posts made by Sean and I think that comparing Annette to Sean is a horrible insult, to Annette...

I'm going to attempt to explain some things here:
http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=3439

See... Don't host with KIDS.... From what I heard, GX Hosting was ran by 2 16 year olds. Also, ever since they got on the news about some corp trying to buy them.... Which was illegal because they was kids. Their clients probally started to cancel hosting services with them.

I will just repeat that a large number of customers have been abandoning GX hosting over the past few months due to poor service of one sort or another.

many web hosts who post here have had "refugees" from GX hosting so its likely that they have hit financial problems.

As for the teenager thing, sometimes I feel like a Grandpa on the Internet (age=33).

http://hudson.nu/moodies/images/gordon.JPG

Surely there must be some other grey hairs around here?

Gordon

But... but... they're just kids. They didn't mean to do it.

Not the first time or the second or even the fifty-fifth. They were just fooling around. If they committed fraud, well, it was just a childish prank. If they ripped people off -- well, didn't you do some bad things when you were little?

Please.

Stop being so hard on them, everybody. You're all making me weep.

Originally posted by Félix C.Courtemanche
I agree... I'm definately not burnt out, but I do enjoy taking some time back from time to time and... WORK ;)

Yes Felix, I know what you mean... That whole earning a paycheck thing really does tend to get in the way of reading this forum *lol* I was just talking to someone a few days ago about the nasty addiction this place is

Greg Moore

Why don't you guys call up their parents and have a conference :) IMHO

The GXhosting saga continues. For a while now their page tells us that they discontinued the tech support email because of abuse.

Instead they now have a spiffy ticket system...and it doesn't allow you to enter the nature of the problem, so the software rejects your post because it isn't complete.

They might be bright young lads, but they sure don't know how to design a business system.

Synergy,

I have tried to contact them and their parents, but I cannot get a number that is connected, or a name. I got this host for a course I was taking and they have already billed me three time, just recently on the 20th. I have tried to get my credit card company to stop the auto payment, but they say I have to come in. I do not have the time, but I am going to have to make it.

Also, I contacted the NJ attorney general and consumer affairs office, but all I have gotten so far is more run around and forms to fill out. This is ridicolous (sp?), but there should be something we can do to get our money back from these punks!

Josh, have you contacted a lawyer?

AK_

Here's a message from gxhosting

Due to technical problems beyond our control and time constraints we are no longer able to maintain our business. We will be shutting our servers down on January 31, 2001 so you will need to find another host prior to that time. In order to assist you in your search for a new web hosting company we have contacted http://www.yournetspace.com/ and asked them to contact our current clients. They offer a similar control panel with the same ease of use, free 24/7 e-mail support and packages starting as low as $9.95 a month
with no setup fees. They have a highly trained technical support and sales staff that are ready to assist you with the transition.

What's really interesting is that the message headers show that GXHOSTING is using an account at hostingventures.com

Hosting ventures has one of those delightful pages that tells you all the good stuff about hosting, but no prices.
They are in the same buidling complex as Alabanza, and their control panel looks like Alabanza.

It reminds me a lot of tupper-ware and other get rich, multi-level stuff.