Come on own up who attacked Donhost server 4, it has apparently undergone an attack and will be down tomorrow while it is being repaired :-)

The Register is even carrying the story?!?! lol :eek:

Check it out here:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/23888.html

Or worse...who would laugh at this type of incident happening against any fellow industry member.

Two extensive mails were received...services were only affected for a short period of time...and as one client posted to our forum:

"Unfortunately these things happen, but as far as I'm concerned it's how the problem is dealt with by the host that counts."

Gary

bwahahaha, it was me with my trusty 56k speed demon :-)

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
-S-A-R-C-A-S-M-

On a more serious note, i've never understood people that just abuse the internet, luckily they get bored after a while and grow up, such is life though that we must put up with each generation until they do grow up.

Ive noticed it happen alot more since the internet became cheaper to use, the cheaper it becomes the more the people with little or no ethics will join up with the sole intention of causing trouble.

Hacking, IMHO has a purpose, no matter how sinister it may be, hacking, cracking a site or system with the intention of telling somebody their computer is insecure is good, if it werent for viruses and hackers imagine how many holes would still exist in our every day software today?

DoS or DDoS serves no purpose, I know anyone anywhere can DoS another site, its stupidly easy, once the attack is over everything returns to normal, the only thing the attacker has done is knocked the victim off the internet for a short while, ooh, what a major problem, NOT.

So there we go, whoever done this, or does it to anyone else probably isnt reading this now, because I know the people of WHT are good people which are simply trying to make an honest living out of the internet.

Whoever done/does it, if you are casually browsing WHT, just goto the last site you DoS'ed, whats happening there?? its back to how it was before you attacked it, you see, its all pointless, DoS is simply that, you deny them of their service for a short period of time, then everything springs back into place when you run out of power.

Originally posted by xtstrike
Whoever done/does it, if you are casually browsing WHT, just goto the last site you DoS'ed, whats happening there?? its back to how it was before you attacked it, you see, its all pointless, DoS is simply that, you deny them of their service for a short period of time, then everything springs back into place when you run out of power.
Not to steal your sunshine, but DDoS are incredibly serious and often have serious effects:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/23770.html

If someone with a lot of bandwidth power wants your network down, it's going down. And it is then up to them to determine when and if it will be allowed back up, not you, not anyone else. Distributed Denial of Service attacks are very, very, hard to trace back to an individual or group of people, so the likelyhood of finding the culprit is almost none. Your only defense is a very strong and well-built firewall. Cloud Nine's was unfortunately hacked into, and their line of defense went down, leaving them wide open.

Very sad...

I could be mistaken, but I think there was a bit of controversy (after that was printed), about the real reason they shut down operations. Anywhooo... point is still valid, regardless.

I know its capable of having additional effects, but surely only the most determined of people are capable of doing this? and this would then amount to a hack NOT a DoS ?

I mean it takes huge trojan/ server exploits to get something like this going, and im pretty sure it would take even more power to keep the attack going after the infected machines are disabled/found.

Attack Begins

Victim = 10 machines
Attacker 1000 Machines

1 Hour - some people realise something is wrong with their internet connection.

Victim = 5 Machines
Attacker = 700 Machines

2 Hours - people realise, ISP's realise and people start looking around the net for a virus checker.

Vistim = 0 Machines
Attacker = 500 Machines

And it continues until the attack is so weak that it simply consumes bandwidth.

Of course the attacker can start a fresh attack, but he has to run out of machines at some point!

a DoS simply denies, ive not seen it DAMAGE a computer before unless it physicaly hacks the machine!

Can anyone inform me otherwise to clear up for what i may not fully understand?

Originally posted by xtstrike
And it continues until the attack is so weak that it simply consumes bandwidth.

Of course the attacker can start a fresh attack, but he has to run out of machines at some point!

a DoS simply denies, ive not seen it DAMAGE a computer before unless it physicaly hacks the machine!

Simply consuming bandwidth is more harmful than some lead on for two main reasons (among others): it costs money and if you've only got a T1, it'll fill your pipe. Even if you're protecting the servers from the attack, it's still filling your pipe unless you can get the provider to stop it.

Attackers like .edu domains because there are potentially hundreds and hundreds of insecure machines on a single .edu domain. I have a buddy who works as an admin for a university and they get hit so often with things you wouldn't believe it. Universities have FAT lines, and if you as a hacker/DoSer can get your hands on them, you can do anything you want. If someone cuts your access, move on to a different segment or university.

And as for causing damage, routers have failed before due to extreme loads (maybe caused directly by the DoS, maybe old parts, maybe crappy parts) but had the DoS not occured, the router would likely still be functioning. Price a router and you'll see the problem. :)

to the guy who said about laffing at another companies misfortunes............i was hardly laughing as my 4 main sites and my customers sites were all affected by the donhost problem!!
and what's going on, i hear dsvr is down 2

Originally posted by tazd9t9
to the guy who said about laffing at another companies misfortunes............i was hardly laughing

Sorry mate. My mistake then. I was just going off the subject line for the thread...

Gary

LOL it's ok man i just put that because i know there is a lot of bad feeling about donhost on here