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richardhay
11-02-2004, 10:25 AM
Hello everyone:

I am the owner of a relatively small company in Milwaukee, Wisconsin (12 employees). We are wanting to move to a dedicated server, but we have no idea what we need. I've visited WHT a lot and value the information that I read, so I was hoping that someone (or several people) would read through our situation and be willing to offer system suggestions (speed, ram, etc). Also, if you know of a host that we should check out, please let me know.

Thanks for any help you provide. Here's our situation...


We are not a web hosting company. Rather, we are a company that custom programs MySQL databases with PHP frontends for learning centers at various universities around the country. The databases handle scheduling and recordkeeping at the centers.

We are currently serving the databases off of a virtual hosting account. The problem is that, as we add databases to the account, our clients are experiencing longer and longer lag times in accessing their data. Also, the company with whom we've been hosting has been having some technical trouble taking us off line for hours at a time, several times a month. They also have a constant server load of about 5-9!

So, we are now looking for a dedicated server from which we can run our operations. But, as we are not a web hosting company and do not have any server admins as part of our staff, we don't really know what we need. Here's what we do know:

1. We currently serve about 100 MySQL databases. We expect that number to go up to 200 late in 2005.

2. We currently transfer about 50GB per month. We expect that number to go up to 100GB late in 2005.

3. The biggest concern is that the system must be reliable. The next biggest concern is that it is able to serve MySQL requests quickly.

4. While we are not a hosting company, we do host sites for some of our clients (about 20 sites). Therefore, we would like Cpanel and, if possible, the ability to have branded nameservers (ns1.therichco.com for example).

5. As far as disk space goes, we are barely using 1GB right now, so this probably isn't an issue.

6. We have been in business since 1995, but are relatively new at online databases. The market is open for our product and we expect a steady growth. We would like to start out with a capable server that can either be upgraded in the future or replaced with a better server when this side of our business gets substantially bigger. In other words, I don't want to put out a ton of money right now for the best server out there, knowing that I can always get a second server in the future if the need be.

Thanks so much!

Richard

ranjitbhar
11-02-2004, 11:22 AM
A P4 above 2.4Ghz or AMD 2800 with 1 GB ram should be good enough for you........ I sya a GB Ram coz you have a lot of MySQL database and MySQL is happy if you plenty of ram.

RyanD
11-02-2004, 12:01 PM
I'm not a fan of the above spelling but I agree a midrange p4 and 1gig ram should be sufficient for your applications.

geeks4help
11-02-2004, 12:03 PM
I agree with Ryan. A mid range P4 with 1 Gig of RAM should be enough.

richardhay
11-02-2004, 12:06 PM
Wow, concensus! Thanks so much!

thomas7
11-02-2004, 12:13 PM
Please contact me via PM richardhay.
I can't PM you because you only have 3 posts.

richardhay
11-02-2004, 12:18 PM
Hello everyone. It looks like I'm not allowed to PM either as I haven't posted enough! Anyway, to contact me, please e-mail richardhay@therichco.com or go to our emergency support site at www (dot) trc-support (dot) com and click on the chat icon at the bottom of the screen. Once connected, please ask for Richard Hay.

apollo
11-02-2004, 12:34 PM
or you can also try some high-end VPS if you do not intend to admin the system yourself.. will save some hassle - as VPS HW is usually high-end with redundant hard drives, power supplies and so on....

of course, you will have more power & control with your own dedicated server - including CPU, hdd space, bandwidth, customisation, your own OS flavor and so on...

thomas7
11-02-2004, 12:47 PM
I think he's already on a VPS (probabally) since he's got 100 MySQL databases and has 20 domains been hosted.

jt2377
11-02-2004, 10:44 PM
http://www.rackspace.com/index.php

since you and your people have no admin background. manage server from rackspace should be good or try theplanet.com

wheimeng
11-02-2004, 11:18 PM
thomas7, please beware of warning points for self advertising :P

I reckon a P4 would work fine for you. 50GB/month of traffic can be handled easily with a P4, of course, sufficient RAM.

illogix
11-02-2004, 11:20 PM
jt2377 is right. If you don't have a sysadmin, you will need a fully managed server.

However, from the recent reviews of Rackspace on WHT, It looks like Rackspace is not fully managed anymore.

I have had a wonderfull experience with Servint.com for fully managed servers, you might want to take a look at them. I have also heard very good comments about Datapipe.net.

Servint currently has a 0$ setup offer in the "Dedicated offers and requests" forum on a P4 2.4ghz, 1gb ram and a 36gb SCSI HD (databases like SCSI).

Mfjp
11-02-2004, 11:36 PM
If you're planning on running everything on one box, consider a dual cpu box with RAID SCSI drive <-- this ways your data gets protect against bad disk. SCSI are also much better for Mysql.

illogix
11-02-2004, 11:39 PM
A dual cpu box with SCSI RAID would sure be fine but he is currently running on a shared host so I doubt he needs all of that power for now.

dotSecurity
11-02-2004, 11:47 PM
I would go with an AMD Althon XP if you have relatively quite mySQL dbs, and a Dual Xeon if you are looking into something more powerful.

richardhay
11-02-2004, 11:52 PM
Hello everyone:

Thanks for the great advice. I also appreciate the many hosts that contacted me directly and spent a substantial amount of time helping me figure out what options are available and how to best handle my situation. Furthermore, thank so much to everyone who responded in this forum.

After talking with about seven hosts, reading numerous reports on WHT, and combing through dozens of offers, we decided late tonight to go with a dedicated server from servers4sale.com. They impressed us with their "total managed" package, their willingness to move all of our databases to the new server for us and to quickly and completely handle the complete transfer, their prices and support, and the recommendations that they have received on WHT.

But, I did take the advice of the members of this forum. We went with a P4 as recommended with 1GB of memory. I will let you know how everything turns out, but, again, thanks to all for taking the time to really help me understand what I needed and thanks to the hosts that contacted and worked with me directly.

Thanks and take care...

Richard