I just bumped across following host:

http://xtonet.com/

Sounds great offer £5 for 5Gb/200Gb. Seems to be threat to some of the well established companies serving the hosting zone.:D

Any critical comments/discussion on this offer?;)

:banana: is that UK servers??? coz if it is thats really lovely price... :p i might need to tell some mates in UK about u guys..

I would be wary of those prices - also world class support is an email reply within 6 hours? Some other points to note:

No address on the website - although it does look under construction.
Domain registered 3 oct 2004 - very new
No reverse dns in place - savvis.net seems authorative for the domain

Hey guys, i actualy run xtonet. A customer of mine pointed out this post. I find it amazing you guys have heard of us.

Well, the deals are correct yes, and our site was undergaining redesign and is now temporary offline.

The servers are located at savvis over in USA. Not in UK, but we are UK based.

as for wise's comments:

Support issues can be dealt with alot quicker than this now. And also we have the use of MSN live support, and introducing lots of other support methods.

The domain is very new because we switched names from insanitystrikes.net

Thats right, no RDNS inplace right now. We dont need it in place as of yet. We are focusing on many other issues, like the redesigning of the site etc.


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If anyone is intrested in chatting to me, contact support@xtonet.com and also use this for msn.

RDNS should be of high priority. Many mail servers reject mail from your server unless you have RDNS setup.

Sure, that will be hooked up by tomorow. Thanks for the input.

Sounds like something to check out. If this is for real then you guys should be commended for the prices, but I'll be doubtful for now.

Originally posted by NeoGen
I just bumped across following host:

http://xtonet.com/

Sounds great offer £5 for 5Gb/200Gb. Seems to be threat to some of the well established companies serving the hosting zone.:D

Any critical comments/discussion on this offer?;)
10 bucks a month for 200GB of transfer traffic.

I wish our bandwidth was cheaper than a cup of coffee every morning for a week.

Bottom line:
$10 for 200GB shared hosting traffic is simply unsustainable, and will lead the company down one path, and one path only; "Closed".

Hosting companies that are run with an actual business model, will not offer such ridiculous pricing, as they do not run on negative balances.

Simon

We can actualy offer this for a short time. After we have filled our limit, we will not accept any more clients. As like most hosts we are NOT craming 100+ sites on a server. We will not resell our space also. We are a small business looking for a small range of clients. Is that ok?

Even if you offer that package to 5 clients, that's 1000GB of bandwidth used up, and only at $50/month revenue, I highly doubt your expenses are only $50/month. Depending on the amount of bandwidth you have, You really cannot turn a profit with those kind of specs.

A couple words for you - They're overselling their servers.

Well we're not actualy..

We have other clients on the server with much lower bandwidth. once we have maxed out this we will take no more sign ups.

We have broke a profit too.

You must be get getting your servers for free :rolleyes:, anyways i'll drop this.

Originally posted by IHSL

Bottom line:
$10 for 200GB shared hosting traffic is simply unsustainable, and will lead the company down one path, and one path only; "Closed".
:D :D

:homer:You are absolutely correct, this is an irrational pricing. If they continue, soon after some days we will see this forum full of :argue:

BTW: How much a server costs, just want to understand the model!!

What kind celeron, xeon, opteron amd xp series? How much ram and storage space?

Originally posted by NeoGen
:D :D

:homer:You are absolutely correct, this is an irrational pricing. If they continue, soon after some days we will see this forum full of :argue:

BTW: How much a server costs, just want to understand the model!!
On a per server basis there's just too many factors to introduce.

If you take a company with one leased server, then I think the following figures would be somewhat accurate;

Lease costs for hardware:
$200-$500

Management & support:
One assumes that they will offer some sort of support. So, then you need to factor in that at the very least they will offer 3rd party support: $100-$400 per month.


Take into account that without massively overselling, the company in question would need to sell 20 packages of the advertised package, to even pay for the server alone.


Now, factor in again that the server in question would need the capability to push 4000GB of transfer in any given month. (No mean task - loads will sky rocket, and one would imagine the datacenter would raise eyebrows at such huge overusage/send out a huge overage invoice).


Given those needed 20 packages, this only leaves the company with enough to pay for server leasing. This does not leave enough to even manage the server, let alone support customers on it. This leaves the company running at a ~$400 loss, even with very minimalistic support available.


Now, the company could run at a profit if they were overselling to the nth degree. However, the life of a company overselling to such extremes is limited. I'd set the expiry date at around 3-9 months, depending on how lucky the company gets with resellers/users signing up.


All this, and the poor company owner still hasn't cut himself a paycheck. (I hope he doesn't have a wife)


Simon

I realy dont think you should judge when you dont own the hosting servers :D

the server is a 2800+ amd athlon xp with 1Gb ram and 120Gb drive.

Note: we are taking two more or these 5Gb plans and then we are back to normal hosting! And getting another server :D

Originally posted by xtonet
I realy dont think you should judge when you dont own the hosting servers :D

the server is a 2800+ amd athlon xp with 1Gb ram and 120Gb drive.

Note: we are taking two more or these 5Gb plans and then we are back to normal hosting! And getting another server :D
That wasn't judging.

Those are cold, hard (minimal) business facts.

Unless you're getting free colo or leasing, then the above stands firm.

Simon

We are not treating this as a big deal. A few of us maintiain the server, we are co-owning a business and running hosting on it. We are not looking to gain any form of profit apart from breaking even which we have done. And when our sites up, everything will be bumped (the new servers going to be all the sales from the website). What traffic amount do you suggest for 5GB?

xtonet ... don't mind the bullies ;) ... good luck with your venture ... jst becareful that you don't get yourself in troublewith overselling and you have to make some profit sometime ....

I've been doing this for almost 3 years and it took about a year of barely breaking even till I got something out of it ... but as I said .. best of luck to you ...

Thanks :D

Im realy looking to combine with a shared hosting company (i am only doing reseller accounts).

But as for the traffic issue..i can afford to give 13Gb per £ so a 5Gb account will be 65Gb traffic. And i can break even on each server (which is all we care about). Sound decent?

Originally posted by xtonet
Thanks :D

Im realy looking to combine with a shared hosting company (i am only doing reseller accounts).

But as for the traffic issue..i can afford to give 13Gb per £ so a 5Gb account will be 65Gb traffic. And i can break even on each server (which is all we care about). Sound decent?
Why not double the plan cost. I do not understand why you are in the hosting business if you do not wish to gain anything from it.

Im wishing to gain a nice small client base, thats all. Maybe i'll take it further when we are more sucessful. But right now we want to offer good deals and basicly host resellers flawlessly and suppirt them to the max, giving us experience as well as reputation around the hosting market. So far the 14+ people on our server are loving it, im so pleased.

We dont care about money, we care about our customers.

We dont care about money, we care about our customers.That can actually work against you if taken too far...

We are still on track of the money side dont worry. Still another month till we launch out website, maybe install autopilot or somthing etc. So right now we're happy with a few forum sign ups and the ones we have now.