Hello everyone.....

I need help fast, I have a enom resellers account. And got a domain from another enom account holder, everything was in my name and I had the domain in my enom account. Some one even called me from enom, because I didn't put money in the account yet. They wanted to make sure, it was account setup for fraud use.

They said ok, and that they just wanted to make sure. Tonight I looked and my domain is not there, I did a whois and it shows my info for it yet. I called enoms tech support, they are not in till monday morning. I checked, and my domain doesn't come up in my browser.

So I submited a high pri help ticket, now I can't do anything but wait for enom to reply to it. When I looked at the whis info, it said it was locked. Could some one have took my domain from me, or could it be enom or the account missed up ?

Now what do I do, as they will not be in till moday morning ?

If this domain is very important to you and you are afraid someone take it ahead of you. Order it immediately from another registrar, then had it transfer back to your enom account.

Originally posted by tas38

I. Could some one have took my domain from me, or could it be enom or the account missed up ?



Exactly, how do you expect people to help you with this when you haven't shown the domain here?:eek:

Well perhaps the other enom user frauded the domain and transfer over to you.Like what boonchuan says,rereg the domain before its too late.

it's littlenetstore.com

I can't buy it, because it's taken by me already. The whois still list me as the owner, and all my info for it when I just checked. It's good till 2005, so how can I buy it when it's not for sale even ?

I checked, and the guy I got it from was the owner before me. He used the same email, to email me and had a store put up on it already.

Originally posted by boonchuan
If this domain is very important to you and you are afraid someone take it ahead of you. Order it immediately from another registrar, then had it transfer back to your enom account.

If he shows the domain,people could register it.

Originally posted by 0existence
Well perhaps the other enom user frauded the domain and transfer over to you.Like what boonchuan says,rereg the domain before its too late.

Have you change the DNS,nameserver etc?
If not,I suggest you contact your registar.

Is www.zoolf.com you?

I checked it's not for sale, everything still shows me as the owner.

Could enom thought my account and the domain transfer, was fraud and took my domain for safe keeping or some thing ?

The funny thing is, my account record doesn't, show any recorded of the domain. But I had the domain in my account, now it gone with no signs it was ever there at all.

As soon as I got the .com, I got the .net at hostway and have it there right now. Also I still didn't put any funds in my enom account, but I just added my credit card to my info.

No I'm not zoolf.com, but as you can see all the other info is for me. My phone# my name and address, it's all my info the guy I got it from put my info for it. It could be zoolf.com, is the guy I got it from.

Maybe this should be moved to the Domain section, where maybe Bashar mind giving him some advice?

Phone enom and leave them a message with you phone number. They may get back to you before Moday. I wouldn't panic. As long as you can prove you have paid for the domain and the whois details is that of yours, the domain should be returned to you.

Good luck.

I'm worried that the domain was taken, but the whois records was not updated yet.

I'm emailing the guy, I got the domain from right now. He used his enom account to push it to me, I want to let him know whats going on. Incase enom emails him about it, plus I have the link to the ebay acution I won it from. And pay pal records where I paid for it, I don't like this one bit for sure.

Originally posted by boonchuan
Maybe this should be moved to the Domain section . . . Thread moved.

If the guy you got the email from is a good company, you should have nothing to worry about. I have a feeling you'll get your domain back with no problem.

Keep trying.
I wish you lots of luck!

I didn't change the DNS at all, it had a store at the url for it. I got that account with the domain as well, but when I went to change over the store account password.

It let me into the store account, but then locked me out when I tried to change the password for it. I didn't borther emailing the store about it, as I got it for the domain and logo mostly.

The guy I got it from, didn't have time to do anything with the store. And sold it cheap, he was very helpful and even gave me the banners and stuff for it. I just emailed him as well, to let him know what happen.

My enom account name is 9 letters and 1 number long =10 , and my password is 8 letter and 3 numbers long = 11. So if some one took it, there must be a big hole in enoms system. And anyone with a enom account, woudl be at risk I would think. And I would not think the guy I got it from, wanted it as he sold it cheap and was very helpful.

The next thing to look at is, if enom took control of it. But if that is the case, they did call me and I got no email saying anything about it. Then the only thing left, is my enom account it's self having some thing worng with it. But why no records of it ever being there, I check and they didn't show it was ever there at all.

As I said before, the guy I got it from had to be the owner. As everything was in his name, and he had a store at the url. Plus if you look at the domain whois, it shows Creation date: 29 Aug 2004. that must be the date he got it, he just changed over the info to my info. And pushed it from his enom account, into my enom account so the date woudl not have changed at all true.

And as I said, the store for the domain, locked me out when I tried to change the password. So they may have taken the store off line because of it. So now we got the case of the missing domain, and know way of knowing what happen till enom gets back to me.

I do really love the name, littlenetstore.com and I even got the .net at hostway for it. I already was starting to build a store for it, and checking on getting the wholesale goods even. I should hear back, from the wholesaler on monday about goods. I don't mind waiting some, if I only knew I was getting my domain back I'd be a happy camper. :bawling:

Originally posted by tas38
. . . Some one even called me from enom, because I didn't put money in the account yet. They wanted to make sure, it was account setup for fraud use.

They said ok, and that they just wanted to make sure. . . That sounds just a little weird.

I've had reseller accounts two years old with no balance and holding only one domain.

They've never called me about it. And I don't know why they would.

It's possible that they contacted you. But, what else did they want to know beyond if it was really your account? . . . Password?

I doubt eNom called you regarding an account that had no funds in it. I have over a hundred recent accounts under me that have no funds in them and eNom doesn't go around calling like that. Do you have a name of the person who called you?
Who did you go through to get the eNom account?
Have you contacted them?
Did you create a new account yourself or did someone give you an account id and password? If it was the later I sure hope you changed the password. If it was a retail account the person above you can go in and push your domain away...reseller accounts this is not possible. Sounds to me like either the parent account to your eNom account or the person you bought the domain from are who you should be worried about.
Your saying the "store" has you locked out also? I'd be talking to the guy you bought this from off of eBay.

That domain is less than two months old. I did a search on eBay and the "LITTLENETSTORE.COM" doesn't come back with any results. You said you still have the link for the auction? What is the sellers rep? What type of stuff do they sell? I'd be looking hard at the seller from everything you have stated here.

Registrar-Lock has nothing to do with your domain missing.
Registrar-Lock means that your domain cannot be transferred out to another registrar.

littlenetstore.com resides under the zoolf.com (Mike Lau) eNom reseller account at the moment

Here is the info that everyone wants to know, I setup the account my self. It's a reseller account, and the person on the phone just ask if I knew, the site I went under for the account I open. They said they was from enom, but they didn't ask anything else at all.

There is a link to the auction, I won the domain from below. I heard back from, the guy I got the domain from. He is being very helpful, anyways enom has not gotten back to me yet.

I got the enom account under speedreseller.com, and enom just ask if I knew them and didn't ask anything else.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3846650853

According to the whois the parent account looks like they are from France. Have you contacted them? Very strange that eNom (if that is who it was) called you like that.

As it has been stated, the domain is now sitting under zoolf.com/dnlock.com who are based out of NY.

no I didn't email them yet, I will do that right now. The guy I got it from, was from the uk so he must have got it under zoolf.com/dnlock.com.

Well I login to the store, after the guy I got it from emailed them.

But it will not let me change the password for the store, but I was able to make sure it pointed to the right url. And saved it, so littlenetstore.com should be online but it don't load into my browser at all.

The funny thing here, is that the form to change the password. Keeps saying, new password is to short even after going 14 letters. It looks like they may be changing the layout of it, as it looks didn't from the other day.

I whois the domain again, and it is still in my name. I didn't pay much for the domain, but I love the name and hope this can be fixed. I don't know why enom would not have, and one fielding support on weekends. You would think, enom would have some one check the high pri one anyways.

I checked out http://dnlock.com/ , could this be the problem it said they are unpdating the DNS servers this weekend. What do they have to do my domain, other then the guy I got it from got it there ?

Also the guy I got the domain from, email unlock@dnlock.com for me. Asking them to help if they can, and told them he did sell it to me but it's done from my enom account.

Does this kind of stuff, happen all the time with domain names ?

I would hope not, but after being defraud out of $149.00. From spacesevre.com now defunk, yes he took the money from me and others and just left. I could beleave, this kind of stuff does happens all the time. I have had nothing but bad luck with this stuff, and a empty wallet to go with it.

If this is the case, I think it's time the biggest hosting and domain sellers. Make some changes, to who and how they do business. Or in the end, all hosting and domain businesses will pay the price for it.

My honest opinion is that the person who pushed you the domain reversed the push (which can be done if you contact support). I'd be curious to find out how zoolf.com/dnlock.com plays out in all of this. You asked if this stuff happens all the time? I'll wait and comment after you find out for sure what happened.

littlenetstore.com has been under control of Mike Lau (zoolf.com) at the moment.
Are you quite sure that domain was pushed in your eNom account? Did you see the domain in your account?

According to the ebay auction, this domain is for sale along with the remotely hosted store website, and you will receive a percentage of the profits without having to deal directly with the customers.
In general, this kind of sale seems no transferring the domain.

Yes it was in my enom account, I seen it there after he pushed it to me. It was the only domain I had in it, and I checked after enom called me.

I open the enom resellers account, just to get the domain pushed to me. And wanted to make sure I had it, plus the store does not own the domain. The seller owns it, and just used it for the store that he signed up as a reseller for is all.

I thought the guy I got it from, got it at Mike Lau zoolf.com only. But it was in my enom account, as I'm 110 % sure I seen it there.

This does make me wonder, if people paying for domains ever really control them. Why would of my domain, been under the control of Mike Lau zoolf.com after it was transfered to me at enom.

The other domains I own, only have the Registrar that I used. So why didn't it just have enom, and my info for the domain with whois this time. I will think alot harder, before buying a domain from anyone ever again for sure. This hole thing is pretty crazy, why would they have me as the owner. But not the one controling the domain ?

Here is what the auction says, I did won this auction. Also I did login into the store, and it does have a place to set the url for the store. So the store does not own it at all, and as the auction say 100% owner ship of the domain is self......

Littlenetstore.com Domain Features:

* 100% Domain Ownership
* Registered Until August 2005
* Free URL Forwarding
* Free E-mail Forwarding
* Free Dynamic DNS
* WHOIS

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3846650853

I believe nobody could do this except eNom.

Originally posted by tas38
This does make me wonder, if people paying for domains ever really control them.

I will think alot harder, before buying a domain from anyone ever again for sure.

I and many others around here have bought and sold numerous domains. Sometimes there are glitches with transfers and even pushes but for the most part I never have any problems.

I found out what happen to my littlenetstore.com domain, and need advice on dealing with it the right one fast please.........

I called enom tech support, they tracked my domain. They said the guy I got it from, ask to have it put back into his enom account again. That he pushed it to the wrong account, and that it was in his account right now.

They told me to get him to push it back into my account, and I ask what can I do if he will not do it. He started to say not much, but I said I'm am the owner on the whois right now. He said, well I would have to transfer it my self if he didn't.

So I ask how can I do that, when it isn't in my account. He said I could do it, in my enom account easy. Now what should I do, if I email the guy and he doesn't pushed it to me. Then I may just have tipped him off, and then he may change the details back to his again.

This hole thing is really nuts, and I see enom feel who ever has the domain owners it. And that it doesn't matter, if it's in your name or not to them. I even said I can prove it's my domain, and starting saying about the auction and pay pal where I paid for it. He was not buying it, till I said well the domain is in my name and to do a whois on it and see.

Only then he said, I could transfer it my self. But he knows full well, the other guy can change that info as it's in his account.

I just sent a email to the guy, and ask him to plaese push it back to my enom account again. What else can I do, at this point.

And for everyone that sells and buys, by pushing domains at enom. WEll if I was you, I would rethink doing that. As you can see, they can take it back after you pay for it. And you see it in your account, and feel safe about it. Next time, I will not push a domain there. I will get them to transfer it some place else, better to pay for a year more then may be lose it true ?

actually it's quite disturbing that you just can ask a domainname back without Enom contacting the receiver.

As I stated in your other thread, I and many others around here push domains on a regular basis with no problem. Just because you have been stung by one crappy eBayer doesn't mean the entire industry is unsafe. You can have a deal go bad even with a domain transfer.

To bad you already left feedback. If I were you I would contcat the eBayer. I would also contact zoolf at their number listed on the website.

Ok it come from Mike Lau www.zoolf.com, and enom tech support just emailed me it's back there right now. That must have been where the guy I got it from had it, and that Mike Lau has a enom account to push it to me.

I'm wondering, if I should try to transfer it to my self or not ?

I need Advice on this, as I don't no much about this yet. I do know enom has a lock on it, but every thing is still in my name.

I checked out the transfer stuff, in my reseller account and it said they would email to ok it. So it would email me wouldn't, or will the lock keep me from transfering it to my account ?

The lock will keep it from transferring away from eNom. The domains isn't 60 days old yet so you can't transfer it away.

But I want to transfer it to my enom account, if I can do that I can password protect the domain then. Then no one can do anything with out the password, but can I do that or not like it is ?

And I don't think they could of password protected it, because they pushed it to me. Am I right ?

I checked about pushing it to my account, but it said it needed to be in my accout already to do that. So transfering it would be the only way, but I don't know if I can transfer it. Does enom charge, even if a transfer doesn't work ?

Update:

The guy I got it from has emailed me back, he said he never ask Mike Lau zoolk.com to take it back. And that he has emailed enom and Mike Lau, asking for their help to get it back to my account again. I got a email, from enom tech support on my ticket to them. They said that the domain, is back at Mike Lau zoolf.com enom accout.

It looks like this is where the guy I got it from, was hosting the domain at. And he had ask Mike Lau, to push the domain to my account after I paid him for it. But then Mike Lau his hosting place did push it to me, but then turn around and took it back. Telling enom, that he had pushed it to the wrong account.

My domain littlenetstore.com, is now in Mike Lau's enom account. I did do a whois just mins ago, and it is still in my name with it. So I do own the domain, but do not have control of it in any way shape or form. It is locked by enom, and not in my account so I can't push it to my account. And it's has not been 60 days at enom yet, so I can not transfer it to one of my other accounts.

So the case is, if Mike Lau does not or will not return it to me. I'm out of a domain, I can only hope that it was a honest mix up and he returns it. There does seem to be some hope, as they didn't take and change me as the owner. To say this hole thing, has made me learn alot about domains is a under statement for sure.

I was shocked that this could have happen, the guy I got it from seems very shocked as well. The domain was in my account, and was and still is in my name. I have email enom, so has the guy I got the domain from for help with this matter. But enom has told me, the only thing I can do, is get mike lau to push it back to my account. Or transfer it my self, but it can not be transfered till it's been at enom for 60 days.

So at the end of this day, I still do not have my domain.

The cause of this trouble is that you bought the domain from a middleman.
That middleman is not an owner of the domain. Does he have the authority to sell it? The most important thing is the intention of domain owner (Mike Lau), not middleman's assertion. You had better contact Mike Lau directly.

I want to know the assertion of Mike Lau.

Mike Lau is a hosting place, and the guy I got it from got Mike Lau hosting place to order it. And to host it for him, I did infact do a whois on it before I got it. And it showed the guy I got it from, as the owner of the domain.

Just as it shows me, as the owner of the domain right now. But for some reason, people are taking that to mean Mike Lau owns it. The guy I get it from, ask Mike Lau to change the owner ship info over to me. And to push it into my enom reseller account, as he sold it to me.

Now Mike Lau for what ever reason, emailed enom after he put it into my account. And told them he put it into the wrong account, and to move it back to his account. The guy I got it from, said he never told or ok him taking it back ever. Even showed me a email, that tell enom just that. And he said he email it to enom, and that he also email Mike Lau the same thing.

I hope this was a mix up, as the domain is till in my name. And that Mike Lau puts it back into my account, after reading the emails sent to him.

Hello everyone......

I need to know if I own the domain, littlenetstore.com or does the Registration Service Provided By: Mike Lau

Mike lau is a enom reseller, he was paid by the guy I got the domain from. To get the domain, and host it for a short time.

Before I got the domain from a guy called Jamie, I did a whois and it show Jamie. As the.......

Registrant Contact:
Administrative Contact:
Technical Contact:
Billing Contact:

So I felt safe that he did indeed own the domain, I wanted to be on the safe side. I got the domain, and paid Jamie for it. Then Jamie, got mike lau to change the owner ship over to me. Witch he did as you can see in the whois, and Jamie ask mike lau to push the domain into my enom account. To me this is not about money, the domain is not woth alot. But it's about whats right and being fair, and getting what is mine back if I can.

As mike lau has a enom reseller account, and I have a reseller account it was easy. Mike lau did push it to my account, but then emailed enom that he put it into the wrong account. And told them to move it back to his account, enom then did move it back to has account.

And enom did this, even though whois clearly showed me as the.....

Registrant Contact:
Administrative Contact:
Technical Contact:
Billing Contact:

Now enom just told me have him move it back to my account, and only after I pointed out it's in my name. Did they tell me that if he didn't move it back, that I should transfer it my self. But the 60 days is not up, and enom has it locked till then. So I can't transfer it at all, and Jamie has told me and enom and mike lau. That I was the owner, and he never ask or ok in anyway for it the go back to mike lau's account.


I and Jamie both, emailed mike lau me a 2nd time. And have not got any reply, or have not gotten the domain yet. So I need to know, if I own the domain by what whois says or not ?

I can prove I got and paid for the domain easy. So if I do own the domain, I need to try and get enom to get it back for me. ? And if the whois don't matter, then I need to send a few more emails to Jamie and mike lau. And if I don't get it, then just let go and move on.

But if I really do own it like the whois has me as, then I need to start to point out my rights to enom. And try to get them, to do the right thing then. As they clearly, moved the domain when it had me as the owner of it. The domain was in my name, when mike lau ask them to move it back to has account.

So I need input, so I can know what way to go from here with this.

http://www.whois.sc/littlenetstore.com

Why don't you call zoolf at their NY number? I would have been on the phone yesterday morning.

I will give them a call, but if they ant replying to emails. Whats the odds they will answer the phone, I tried to send a email from zoolf.com site. It has bounced back 3 times now, but will try the ph# tomorrow and see.

I have send 2 emails to unlock@dnlock.com, they did not bounce back. And I did not getany replys back yet, nor did I get the domain back.

What is odd about this hole thing is, why would he have not changed the owner ship by now.

I presume there was some trouble between Mike Lau and Jamie.
I think you had better make contact with Mike Lau.

This may be the case, but I have not been able to get a hold of him. I emailed the whois email for him 2 times, with no reply from him.

tas38, any new news about your problem ?
Did you get the domain name back in your account ?

how did you pay?
who did you pay too?
do you have prove of purchase?
are you sure it was not stolen from mike lau and sold to you?

those answers would help if mike lau doesn't want to push the domain back to you.

No I didn't get it back, it's not looking good for sure. But I still hope, it will get put back.

I paid with pay pal, I checked the whois before buying it. And the guy name Jamie I got it from, was the owner on the whois record. I can prove I paid and own it, as even right now the whois has me as the owner of it. I have the auction where I got it, and the pay pal record where I paid for it.

Plus the fact, the mike lau would find it hard to say other wise. As he changed everything over to me, then pushed it to my enom account. And by rights, enom should have emailed the owner email on whois and that would be me. Before putting it back, into mike lau's account again. As he had to change it over to me, before putting it into my account in the first place. Enom clearly broke the rules doing that, even now I'm the owner on whois.

So by the rules, if I email them from the email of the owner on whois. And ask them to put it into my account, then they would have to do just that. And if they thought at all, the owners was just changed. They would need to put a hold on it, for 3 to 5 days then whois it and see who the owner is on whois right ?

so true.

they should contact the owner first, just wait and see what mike's reply

tas38
You made 3 threads with 1 trouble.
You had better not to make new thread, because many people stray away. Two heads are better than one.


http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=336003

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=335599

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=336612

wrong post

all threads merged!

Sorry about the 3 diffrent post............


I have a update for everyone, I got my domain back into my account today.

It took 2 tickets and 3 calls to enom, the 2nd time I called enom tech support. I told them the problem and ask for their help, and they told me to tranfer it. But thanks to poster here, I knew to tell them it was locked because it was not with them 60 days yet.

That did the trick, they put me on hold then come back in 5 mins. Then put me on hold again, and come back in 5 mins again. This time they said ok it's been put back into your account, we called mike lau and he could not push it because of the limit put on it.

So I hung up and keep checking for it in my account, after 30 mins it was not there. So I called back again, they checked and said oh the tech moved it to the same account again. I'll push it into your account for you, and I made sure they had my user name right this time. And ask how long it would take to show up, they said only a few mins.

Well I hit refesh, and there was my wonderful and lovely domain again. This name has grown on me more and more, the more I had to work to get it back. The more I liked it, and wanted it back even more for some reason. Jamie the guy I got it from, had been also working to get it back for me as well. And was getting more and more upset , that mike lau would not reply to has emails.

So here is what happen, Jamie got the name and hosting at ServerCube that is run by the owner of zoolf.com Mike Lau. He change everything over, then pushed it to my account. I was told by a enom tech, that mike lau had ask enom to put it back. Because he put it into the wrong account, today mike lau said he couldn't put it back in my account because of the limit on it.

No matter what happen, mike lau didn't email Jamie of this at all. And he didn't reply to emails at all, from me and Jamie as well. Enom once given the right info, was very helpful and never once made it hard on me. If I had known to tell enom, that it was locked because it wasn't there 60 days yet. I'm 100% sure, they would have put it back the first call.

So thanks for all the help, from everyone here on this forum. With out it, I would be still trying to get it back I'm sure. And yes enom, does go by the rule. As they did say, well yes you are the whois owner just transfer it. No less then 3 times to me, and they even called mike lau this time. So enom support is very good, and I really can't say much bad about it. As I didn't tell them the right info, to where they didn't know I can't transfer it. :)

It is nice when a story ends well.

Congratulations!!
No pain, no gain.

Congrats :)