I am looking to start up reseller web hosting

windows, easy to use for a first time

Any recomendations would be greatly appreciated. I am willing to consider a dedicated server and setting every thing up my self if some one would point me in the right direction

Welcome to WHT koncept,

I wouldnt recommend getting a windows reseller account becasue windows servers are not as popular as linux servers. I would also reconsider getting a DS at this time until you gain more experience with running a Reseller account. So let us know which way you plan to go. Best of luck.

i am not at all familiar with linux or php

i agree about the reseller hosting

im looking at
hostnexus.com/resellers/windows_reseller_plans.htm

what do you think

Running a reseller account do not have to know any Linux or PHP. I know nothing about the two but I am still going on fine. :D

Hostnexus has a great reputation.

I spoke to their owner over MSN a few days to go, nice and friendly guy:agree:

One of the worste things one can do when starting up is to buy too much in one month. What almost everything related to hosting has is a monthly fee. If you spend all your money the first month starting up, and dont get tons of clients, how are you supposed to make money next month, or even pay the bills?

I sugest a small reseller account with a respectable host that offers account upgrades, as you will upgrade as you expand. When the time comes, a dedicated server would be fine, but not yet.

[quote]I spoke to their owner over MSN a few days to go, nice and friendly guy[quote]Based on his posts here I would add knowledgeable. :)

Originally posted by koncept
i am not at all familiar with linux or php

i agree about the reseller hosting

im looking at
hostnexus.com/resellers/windows_reseller_plans.htm

what do you think Some hosts are having good reputations and etc... but there are certain drawbacks on having the reputation.

I'll tell you more about it if you want to know... do not intend to discuss such things in the forum. Do you have an email addy, MSN, Yahoo or something that I can reach you at cause you don't have enough posts for me to PM you.

If you like you can reach me at "aodat2" for both yahoo and MSN.

Hope to get to talk to you soon. Take care.

i want windows because i am familiar with how it operates and know what to ex[ect. I also write all my web apps in asp. I am comfortable with that langage.

You are probaly right when you said you dont need to know any thing about linux or php, but i want to know what i am working with and be fluent in the programming languages used on it.

Originally posted by koncept
i want to know what i am working with and be fluent in the programming languages used on it.

Good idea ;)

A windows server might be the best way to go, but i dont suggest getting dedicated. Get a reseller that offers windows, but has php and MySQL installed, so you can host everyone, not only asp and MSSql users.

thanks your for you input

what is your opinion on the 2nd lowest windows reseller from hostnexus

Hmm.

Specs:

2GB Disk Space
25GB Data Transfer
Plesk 7 Control Panel
Host 50 Domains
Private Nameservers!
2 Dedicated IPs
Unlimited Subdomains
ASP.NET Framework
50 MS SQL Databases
29.95/mo

Well, 2GB disc space isn’t that much, and will disappear very fast unless you oversell, which I don’t recommend. 25GB bandwidth is nothing. You will need in the hundreds usually. Having the limit of only hosting 50 domains is kind of bad, since limits aren’t too appealing, as well as the limit of databases. Only 50 can be a problem. I suggest keep looking around. You can find better, and remember, look at specs and company before price.

this is all new to me, i know what i like for a single user web hosting. Any recomendations as to companys, what to look for, and ideal specs would be appreciated

Originally posted by metrichost
Well, 2GB disc space isn’t that much, and will disappear very fast unless you oversell, which I don’t recommend. 25GB bandwidth is nothing. You will need in the hundreds usually. Having the limit of only hosting 50 domains is kind of bad, since limits aren’t too appealing, as well as the limit of databases. Only 50 can be a problem. I suggest keep looking around. You can find better, and remember, look at specs and company before price.

That's actually some fairly good pricing, considering it is Windows and all. Many Linux resellers charge that much for the same, or less, disk space and bandwidth and have a huge amount of customers.

Having a domain limit isn't necessarily a bad thing, as it helps to prevent the host from overselling.

Limits actually do look good to the educated consumer. They will realize that you have business in mind, more than money. It shows that you (or your main host) realizes how limits prevent its resellers and users from overloading the system, and help increase stability and speed for everyone. This is a very good move.

That package is priced fairly reasonably in my opinion, and is from a respected host.

Of course metrichost is welcome to his opinion but not many people share it. 2gb space is quite alot - I doubt HostNexus, ResellerNexus and NexusPortal together use 2gb and there are thousands of pages there. Our average server with 500 domains does 150gb a month so why would one need "hundreds" of gigabytes space?

We offer unlimited domains hosting on Linux as I believe Linux servers to be more robust but that is not a business model I wish to pursue on our Windows line. To be able to host 50 domains for for $30 is more than enough. Even if you charge $5/mo per domain, thats around 700% profit at $250 gross. If I could make that profit ratio on a server, I'd be a millionaire and retired by now.

Windows is more expensive than Linux and maybe metrichost doesn't know that. Not only is their Windows licencing, there is also MSSQL which costs thousands or $200/mo leased. Then there are all the commercial components that people demand.

It's not as if you can get a cheapo cpanel server for $99/mo and start piling on domains. Windows requires:

1) High-powered server (with lots of ram)
2) Windows licencing
3) Control panel licencing
4) Dedicated SQL server and licencing
5) Commercial component installation
6) Specially trained and knowledgeable staff

Sure, there are really cheap windows hosts out there but they crash quicker than cheap linux hosts (ala ddi) and if they are cheap, they are cutting corners somewhhere and you simply can't do that if you want to provide a reliable windows hosting service.

In fact, most people ask how we can offer Windows so cheap. I think I hear that at least twice a day in the sales inbox or on the forum. HN has built a decent name and client base over the years and in the Plesk world and I'd like that to continue with Windows. I believe I have worked out a responsible hosting model that ensures profitable and lightly loaded servers and steady growth and it's already proved to be a dramatic success. :)

Originally posted by metrichost
Hmm.

Specs:

2GB Disk Space
25GB Data Transfer
Plesk 7 Control Panel
Host 50 Domains
Private Nameservers!
2 Dedicated IPs
Unlimited Subdomains
ASP.NET Framework
50 MS SQL Databases
29.95/mo

Well, 2GB disc space isn’t that much, and will disappear very fast unless you oversell, which I don’t recommend. 25GB bandwidth is nothing. You will need in the hundreds usually. Having the limit of only hosting 50 domains is kind of bad, since limits aren’t too appealing, as well as the limit of databases. Only 50 can be a problem. I suggest keep looking around. You can find better, and remember, look at specs and company before price.
Hmmm, your site's reseller plan is only 1 GB of space + 40 GB of bandwidth. Wonder how does that fit?

Besides, what sites uses hundreds of bandwith a month?

If metrichost sees that as high priced then he has not been in the hosting business very long and it is those that go much below that, that will not be in the hosting industry very long. IMHO.

It cost us on average a $1000.00 to set up windows server with lic fees and install time of software etc and that is before I ever put a client on it, then it takes almost double the admin time to secure and keep secure a windows box.

There are certian inbuilt cost to being in business long term and many of host have tried to cut the price and many of host have failed.

Just spend a little time over in the web hosting forum and read the horror stories there to understand those that stay in business and give good long term service do so by charging a rate that allows them to.

HostNexus pricing is fair do not let another competitor host lead you astray.

Techark, this is very concerning. It is the second time this week that I have read a post, completely agreed with it, only to discover that you wrote it. My whole world has been turned upside down - I usually disagree with everything you say! ;)

thanks guys. your help has been much appreciated. hope to one day be able to answer posts on this forum rather than just ask them

Originally posted by koncept
I am looking to start up reseller web hosting

windows, easy to use for a first time

Any recomendations would be greatly appreciated. I am willing to consider a dedicated server and setting every thing up my self if some one would point me in the right direction


I will recommend you turnkeyresellers.com and BEWARE from serverprice.com