Ok, I was browsing the Tomsyer.net site when I came across their TOS/AUP. I read it for a bit, when I noticed it was very very familiar.

http://www.tomsyer.net/index.php?area=tos

All nice.

Then we have: http://ev1servers.net/english/aboutus/tos.asp

Same thing. Doesn't say much for TomSyer does it now.

:rolleyes:

EV1 happens to have a very strong AUP/TOS. I dont see any problems with using it.

I would be more worried if he had NO AUP/TOS listed like many other resellers.

Thanks

Jeremy

Im sure there could be some legal issues if EV1 found out about it :)

Derrick

Originally posted by Derrick
Im sure there could be some legal issues if EV1 found out about it :)

I really doubt that. I'm sure they have other legal issues they'd rather dedicated resources to that don't include prosecuting those that plagarize their TOS. It's a fairly common practice, and I don't ever remember seeing anyone get bent out of shape over it.

Depends, a smaller company may not persue it but I bet EV1 would. Usually just a nice little letter from their lawyer would take care of removing the copied TOS, wouldnt cost that much either.

Derrick

Originally posted by Derrick
Im sure there could be some legal issues if EV1 found out about it :)

Derrick

they actualy allow you to use it without any trouble of any kind.

Originally posted by TheUruguayan
they actualy allow you to use it without any trouble of any kind.

I thought I had read that somewhere, but couldn't find out where to link in this thread. Any ideas as to where it might be hiding?

I thought it was they allowed their customers to use it. Not just anyone.

Strange question... somewhat off-topic. Is the company now pronounced "Tom Sayer," "Tom Sawyer?" And is this the owner's name? Just curious. I've heard some good things about them, but I've always wondered how to pronounce the name. Anyone know?

Originally posted by TheUruguayan
they actualy allow you to use it without any trouble of any kind.

You have to ask first of course, but yeah, they don't really care.

Why would ev1 care....it reflects poorly on TS not on them.

Unless ev1 stole the TOS! :D

Originally posted by YourFavHost
Strange question... somewhat off-topic. Is the company now pronounced "Tom Sayer," "Tom Sawyer?" And is this the owner's name? Just curious. I've heard some good things about them, but I've always wondered how to pronounce the name. Anyone know?

Tomszuuuuuuuure ( for french hosts )
Tom`s Yer ( as in Tom`s yer man - english hosts ) :D

I always thought it was pronounced "Tom Syer", as Tom is the first name and Syer may be the last name. (german?)

Actually I always thought you could not copyright legal documents anyway?

Originally posted by Neo3Net

Same thing. Doesn't say much for TomSyer does it now.

:rolleyes:

You either have too much free time or have an axe to grind with Tomsyer.

Sirius

EV1 allows you to use parts of their TOS/AUP if you contact them. He may have had servers with them at some point.

I encourage my clients to copy my TOS, I think the only way to have a strong TOS is if you use your upstream providers + your own. How could you possibly protect yourself if you don't hold your customers to what you are held to?

There is nothing wrong with copying a TOS.

Ummm, TomSyer doesn't resell for EV1.

If I was a company that paid my lawyers money to write a Terms of Service, and someone just used it without permission or written consent. I'd be very pissed.

Originally posted by sirius
You either have too much free time or have an axe to grind with Tomsyer.

Agreed. This is hardly an abominable act.

Originally posted by miakeru
Agreed. This is hardly an abominable act.

It's a copyright violation. Maybe next they'll post up some copyrighted MP3s.

Yet again, you should probably ask them or EV1. EV1 has an open copy policy of their TOS if you have ever used them.

Originally posted by kris1351
Yet again, you should probably ask them or EV1. EV1 has an open copy policy of their TOS if you have ever used them.

EV1 has stated their clients can use their TOS, but has also stated their competetors (eg: Tomsyer) can not.

I remember this explicity coming up in ev1's forums -- people kept posting "oh, they let anyone use it" and HS himself posted saying that offer was not extended to other dedicated server providers.

Originally posted by amusive.com
EV1 has stated their clients can use their TOS, but has also stated their competetors (eg: Tomsyer) can not.

I remember this explicity coming up in ev1's forums -- people kept posting "oh, they let anyone use it" and HS himself posted saying that offer was not extended to other dedicated server providers.

http://forums.ev1servers.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1925

You can use their TOS as long as you are an ev1 customer.