Okay,

question,

I am putting together a server, NOT for virtual hosting, but for a heavy traffic site.

Now, I don't know what to pick:

CPU AMD XP 1700+ 1.47GHz
CPU Intel PIII FCPGA 1000Mhz 256/133box

1GB RAM...

What CPU should I pick...
I will install a GOOD cooler... so THAT shouldn't really be a prob...

Or perhaps:
CPU Intel P4 S423 1500Mhz Box

(Please note there is a poll :D) - But please also post WHY you made that choice...

I pick: CPU Intel P4 S423 1500Mhz Box --> but it is not my money :)

Originally posted by uuallan
I pick: CPU Intel P4 S423 1500Mhz Box --> but it is not my money :)

Why do you pick this one?
I heard P4 aint good for hosting, can anyone tell me why?

Whilst I'm a great fan of AMD Athlon for home systems I wouldn't use them in a server, especially if you're colocating.

Toms hardware did some test with a P4, they removed the fan and heatsink, the voltage automatically dropped to reflect the change and the cpu still continued to function at reduce performance safely. They did the same to an Athlon and it went up in smoke in seconds (i mean seconds, watch the mpeg movie). What would you do if the fan failed?

Holy $H1T!

Can you post a link to that? :)

So you're saying, a P4 IS pretty okay for a webserver?

If you was to pick between a P3 and P4 then, what would you pick? and why?

P4, even if its just for its monitoring abilities alone. Unless it comes down to money.

The P4 is over course a better chip, however the performance difference in between a P3 and P4 in current applications is not very significant, hence the bad rep, some claim the extra money for the CPU and more expense motherboard can't be justified.

Hmm well my account wont let me in so I cant see my discounted price,
but the normal price for
CPU Intel P4 S478 1500Mhz Tray - is €182
CPU Intel PIII FCPGA 1000Mhz 256/133box - is €161
CPU Intel PIII FCPGA 1.1GHz 256/133 - is €182

So what would YOU do?

I saw that posted here awhile back about the AMD meltdown, I still prefer AMD's over P3's or P4's same speed or more for almost half the price.. Plus with a properly cooled server and a good monitoring script it will shut the server down if the fan would happen to go without any problems of a melt down..

As for the p4's and servers I have heard the same thing, that they do not work well in that application YET.. Could have seen the same thing or it may just be a false rumor..

Wish you the best in your decision either way..

One of our admins has an AMD server from Racksaver, and it runs very nicely (or so I'm told). The cooling in their systems seems to be more than adequate for that particular chip. On the other hand, Intel P3's are always a safe bet if you're not comfortable being on the "bleeding edge". :)

In performance the Athlon XP will beat the p4, but, it get HOT, really HOT and it doesnt auctomatically halt the system if the fan fails and the temp keep going up and up until the thing fry (literally).

If you are installing a > GOOD < cooling system and besides most nocs have temp controled enviroments you would do great with this CPU, but if you want to go for the "safe" way, go with the P4, is more money for less performance but more...lets say.. user friendly.

(if you install a good water cooling system on that Athlon you could OC it to.. lets say 1800mhz, but ive never seen a water cooling system in a server...umm... could be interesting).


Just my 0.01$,

Apoc.

Looks like AMD is winning.

http://www.koolance.com/ make water-cooled 1u rackmounts... :)

Originally posted by hypernatic.net
Holy $H1T!

Can you post a link to that? :)


Been discussed here (http://webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=28234)

cheers,
:beer:

I Picked Intel P3/1Ghz ... AMD can be very unsafe when the fan fails (it might burn your motherboard easily). Intel P4 does not have a good rating for webserver (not sure why). So these leave me with P3/1Ghz that is proven to be really greate as webserver. Besides, for high load sites, more memory is probably the way to go ... say ... at least 1GB-2GB. SCSI drive is preferable than IDE. So for web server, my priority would probably go like this:

1. Memory
2. Dual CPU (P3)
3. SCSI drives
4. >1Ghz CPU

cheers,
:beer:

Personally like the P3 chips, they seem to have the least amount of issues.

Possible to build 1U AMD servers with OEM casing and GLOBALWIN's CAS68 1U fan without overheating?

I didn't go through all the posts, but I'll go for the Athlon XP. It outperforms the other 2 by quite a bit. Yes, there is the overheating problem, but many of the newer quality Athlon motherboards have some form of C.O.P. built in (CPU Overheating Protection), which shuts down the system immediatly if the CPU get's too warm, before any damage is done.

My order of preference:

1. Athlon XP 1700+
2. P3 1000 MHZ
3. P4 1500 MHZ (performance on P4's before the 1700 MHZ that were produced with reviewed technology is very dissapointing. Even heard they were outperformed by Celerons that were based on P3 technology)