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maxuscz
10-20-2004, 05:54 PM
Hi all
who know hosting service where I can to buy dedicated server for torrent tracker - please tell me


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sirius
10-20-2004, 06:05 PM
Originally posted by maxuscz
Hi all
who know hosting service where I can to buy dedicated server for torrent tracker - please tell me

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maxuscz
10-21-2004, 07:17 AM
torrent site is "specific" and I dont need hoster who close my account after first emails from any lawyers...
Exist hosters who can stop service after fake emails too...

I need smart hoster company...

swijaya0101
10-21-2004, 08:23 AM
open your own DC

maxuscz
10-21-2004, 08:28 AM
8))
It's dosnt smart... and dont easy for me 8)
I;m from czech republic

sirius
10-21-2004, 09:10 AM
Originally posted by maxuscz
8))
It's dosnt smart... and dont easy for me 8)
I;m from czech republic

Guess you might be out of luck then.

Most DC's aren't going to host you as Bit's are normally associated with Warez, and since you have indicated you need a host that isn't scared of attorney's level, I am going to jump out on a limb here and guess you are moving Warez or Movies.

Best of luck finding a host.... I guess.

Sirius

datums
10-21-2004, 09:48 AM
maxucz:

If you are going to have the tracker running on the server. You will be better off using a dedicated server. With the dedicated server you can have the web interface with the tracker running on one machine. Shared hosting for bit torrent would not work.

In the process of setting up a client with a bit torrent server.

maxuscz
10-21-2004, 10:04 AM
yes. I need dedicated server... and I need hosting service who can offer me this server 8) but they need to know - I will start torrent tracker

Georgecooldude
10-21-2004, 11:16 AM
Look at hosts in Russia, Estonia places like that. Any Eastern Europeon countys.

And hosting a torrent tracker isnt illegal is some countrys and your server never has any warez on it. Its hosted by the users.

maxuscz
10-21-2004, 11:30 AM
I work in internet 5 years
in russia and estonia dosnt exist company where you can get dedicated server 150 USD.... (IMHO)

Georgecooldude
10-21-2004, 11:34 AM
Suit yourself, IMHO

You also didn't specify a budget.

maxuscz
10-21-2004, 11:58 AM
150 USD per month

datums
10-21-2004, 01:33 PM
hosting a bit torrent tracker is not illegal.

If you are assisting in the sharing of illegal software, then yes.

maxuscz: what apps are you planning on sharing, will you have an approval process?

sirius
10-21-2004, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by datums
hosting a bit torrent tracker is not illegal.

If you are assisting in the sharing of illegal software, then yes.

maxuscz: what apps are you planning on sharing, will you have an approval process?

Yes; I am sure that someone looking for hosting that isn't scared by lawyers writing in, isn't hoting illegal torrent files.

Hmmmm.

Sirius

datums
10-21-2004, 01:37 PM
Sirius , If it is illegal, like images on a web server, it gets removed.
You get a warning. If it happens again, you get a termination notice. Business.

CactusCounty
10-21-2004, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by datums
Sirius , If it is illegal, like images on a web server, it gets removed.
You get a warning. If it happens again, you get a termination notice. Business. Not by my TOS. If you're caught hosting or linking to any truly illegal content such as warez or pirated downloads your butt can kiss your account goodbye. No warnings, no notices, just get the ____ out.

Period.

robgct
10-21-2004, 01:47 PM
Originally posted by sirius
Yes; I am sure that someone looking for hosting that isn't scared by lawyers writing in, isn't hoting illegal torrent files.

Hmmmm.

Sirius do you ever help people? eveyr reply i read of yours is telling people to visit the search page :confused: :confused:

robgct
10-21-2004, 01:48 PM
anyway try http://www.niuhi.com/ they host www.empornium.us which is a torrent site (but for porn).

sirius
10-21-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by xcage
do you ever help people? eveyr reply i read of yours is telling people to visit the search page :confused: :confused:

It's amazing what a little self-empowerment does. :)

Sirius

sirius
10-21-2004, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by auctionSuite
Not by my TOS. If you're caught hosting or linking to any truly illegal content such as warez or pirated downloads your butt can kiss your account goodbye. No warnings, no notices, just get the ____ out.

Period.

Agreed. I have seen very little, if any, legitimate use for BitTorrent other than to move porn or warez.

Sirius

the love below
10-26-2004, 02:09 PM
Well then you need to get out more. Ever heard of legal sharing of live music, for example? Linux ISOs? Game demos? legaltorrents.com?

2Grumpy
10-26-2004, 02:22 PM
I often run seeds on my ev1 boxes for torrents of ISO's etc, nothing at all illegal to it. It helps get those much needed linux isos out there for those who want them.

And boy you can burn through 1000 gigs of transfer in NO TIME hosting linux isos via torrent!

Hosting a torrent of a legitimate program is a way to give back to the community. Linux isos, funny .mpg's whatever, it's not all piracy out there you know.

DeltaAnime
10-26-2004, 02:31 PM
Same thing goes for P2P clients :) They're used for illegal stuff, sure, but they weren't made for that soul purpose in mind. BT has been used by many places like fileplanet, filerush, etc, to move patches, new demos, etc.

BT has a lot of very good, legal, uses. Just the warez side of it shows up (just like IRC).

~Francisco

maxuscz
10-26-2004, 05:47 PM
I need change homa maded video... funny, erotic, music... and all other who can do something interesting with video+PC...
I need personal file exchange system... it's BT - perfect solution for this...

Sasuke
10-26-2004, 06:15 PM
I've hosted a few BitTorrent trackers personally, all but one have been for legitimate use.

Didn't know about the first one till a Hentai Game company (G-Collections) emailed me nicely asking to remove the content.

Did that, no hard feelings. :)

Alot of people use it to distribute Anime, but then again - that depends on the studio.

XEBEC has publically stated before that they are happy for the English to see their work before licensing.

Defcon|Rich
10-27-2004, 03:42 AM
Check out Steadfast Networks.. They sponser SuprNova.org...

Mfjp
10-27-2004, 03:56 AM
Suprnova had been trouble for many host...couldn't believe someone sponsors them...

Coolraul
10-27-2004, 11:22 AM
Well its because torrents are NOT illegal and as a few people have pointed out, has valid, legitimate uses.

Slackware uses it:
http://www.slackware.com/torrents/

Sun uses it:
http://distribution.openoffice.org/p2p/bittorrent/

Many others do, those were the first two hits I found. I HIGHLY DOUBT SUN WOULD VIOLATE YOUR TOS.

Saying torrents are by their nature illegal is like saying the internet is illegal since you can use it for warez (exaggeration but you get my point I hope). Its just technology, albeit one that is commonly used for warez just like ftp and http.

Guspaz
10-27-2004, 12:14 PM
RedHat also uses it, remember when RedHat 9 came out, RedHat offered it over BitTorrent FIRST before general availability.

Also, Id Software uses it to push out their stuff, such as Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory, which is a free game that Id Software produces.

There are also COUNTLESS websites that offer things such as game demos, that use BitTorrent side by side with HTTP in order to save bandwidth.

Saying BitTorrent is illegal because it's only used for WAREZ is like saying that internet connections are unethical because they're only used for porn. They aren't. Some people do, but there are legitimate uses for internet connections. Like posting on WebHostingTalk.

sirius
10-27-2004, 12:16 PM
What cracks me up about all of your replies is, where has anyone said they are illegal. Folks just jumping on the bandwagon of misinformation....

Sirius

Defcon|Rich
10-27-2004, 03:15 PM
Browsing suprnova i think it would be fair to say at least most of the software listed is illegal..

Some of the titles are things like : crackedby_ nulled_by_ ...


Just because people use bittorrent for legal purposes doesn't make it legit.. The overwhelming use is still for illegal file sharing..

Sasuke
10-27-2004, 04:04 PM
"Just because people use bittorrent for legal purposes doesn't make it legit.."

BitTorrent itself is not illegal, end of story.

rtetzloff
10-28-2004, 02:39 AM
We no longer host torrent sites that facilitate the sharing of copyrighted materials. Karl answered the question, which was "What do they get in return for hosting?" We pay them for the ad space as most companies do for advertising.

We are a "sponsor" in the sense that we buy ad space from them. And we are a web hosting company, hence "Hosting: Steadfast Networks."

I'm not sure offhand who SFDHosting is, but he understands what we're saying. :)

Defcon|Rich
10-28-2004, 02:42 AM
Great, thanks for the much better explanation Ray :)

rtetzloff
10-28-2004, 02:43 AM
No problem. As a side note, weren't there a bunch more replies in here a minute ago, or am I just insane? ;)

Defcon|Rich
10-28-2004, 02:45 AM
hahaha I was thinking the same thing... Thought my eyes were failing me..

No worries. Thanks for your time Ray :)

KarlZimmer
10-28-2004, 02:46 AM
I'm pretty sure I responded explaining my side of the sponsoring of Suprnova, but it seems they were removed for some reason, odd... Anyone care to explain?

2Grumpy
10-28-2004, 03:10 AM
Well if someone asks about torrents and something about emails from lawyers in one breath my spidey senses start tingling :D But torrents themselves are far from illegal, but they often ARE used for illegal sharing.

Georgecooldude
10-28-2004, 05:15 AM
Big deal if torrents are used for warez.

So is ftp, and IRC.

But they are also used legally too.

Like all things in life it can be abused..

sirius
10-28-2004, 08:21 AM
Originally posted by Dixiesys
Well if someone asks about torrents and something about emails from lawyers in one breath my spidey senses start tingling :D But torrents themselves are far from illegal, but they often ARE used for illegal sharing.

Exactly what I was attempting to communicate. We can all post examples of how there are LEGAL uses, but when you get someone coming in saying, "Hey, I need a host for torrent files and the host cant be scared of attorney's letters....."

Common sense tells you to stay far away from this.

Sirius

Guspaz
10-28-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by sirius
Exactly what I was attempting to communicate. We can all post examples of how there are LEGAL uses, but when you get someone coming in saying, "Hey, I need a host for torrent files and the host cant be scared of attorney's letters....."

Common sense tells you to stay far away from this.

Sirius

Does it? People are increasingly worried these days that at the first sign of a legal threat, hosts will pull their content, regardless of if the threat is valid. Don't you remember all those tests done where these guys signed up a bunch of web hosts, put up public domain content, then sent DMCA cease & desist orders against themselves to the hosts? Nearly all the hosts took down the content without checking to see if the C&D orders made valid claims.

The sad truth is that anybody, ANYBODY, can send a C&D order and have almost any content taken offline. Hosts pull content first, ask questions later, and that is IF they even ask questions later.

maxuscz
11-09-2004, 08:55 AM
so... my friends
now when you stop to talk about torretn legality
can you offer me hosting ?
damn, I cant explain what I need to do with my server 8) I't my own bussiness...
But I plane to share video content (without copirght broken)
Yes. I plane to start own video network wihout expensive hosting and I plane use for this Torrent system. and I mean I can to start it with own dedicated server...

[Axelsson]
11-09-2004, 09:19 AM
Torrentsites is legal in Sweden.
Maybe you should look for a Swedish host. :)

maxuscz
11-09-2004, 09:37 AM
Good news 8) anybody know sweden hosting company ?
I mean EU companies have another prices
I live in Prague and here we have very expencive hosting 8) belive me 8)

relichost
11-09-2004, 12:07 PM
www.GlobalDC.com I know allow bit torrent trackers, and their servers are reasonably priced