Check out these AMAZING OFFERS!!!!

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Windows 2000 Servers or Redhat Servers
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Package 1---------5 Available!!!!
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AMD Athlon 800Mhz CPU
128Megs Ram
RedHat Linux 7.1 Or Windows 2000
20 GB HDD
200 GB Monthly Data Transfer
24/7 ICQ Support
2 IPs

NO SETUP $80/MONTH

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Package 2--------3 Available!!!!!
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AMD ATHLON 1.2Ghz
256MB RAM
RedHat Linux 7.1 Or Windows 2000
40GB HDD
300 GB Monthly Data Transer
24/7 ICQ Support
5 IPs

$200 SETUP-- $99/MONTH

We have a 100mbit Full Duplex to an OC-48 Fiber Optic line.
Our providers include Cogent and Above Net

We gurrantee 99.9% Uptime!

Our website is currently down and should be up by the 26th.

Email us at vortexminds@aol.com or IM us at AIM: x213Sav

Sign Up before the end of january and get an extra 10GB of transfer per month with any plan!!!

please can we have prices one off and montly on ram upgrades \ hdd upgrades and bandwidth overages.
also some more details on your datacentre since your sites down.

thanks. also any pricing on panels?

Upgrade from 128 Ram to 256 Ram---$40
Upgrade from 128 Ram to 512 Ram---$110

Upgrade to a 40GB Hard Drive from 20GB---$30
Upgrade to a 60GB Hard Drive From 20GB---$50

We can install Webmin for you for a one time fee of $20 Dollars

HERE IS SOME INFO
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Connection
We have a 100mbit Full Duplex to a OC-48 Fiber Optic Line. Our providers include Cogent, and Above Net.

Uninterruptible Power System
To guard against local power failures, x213 Networks has two industrial-grade, three-phase Liebert UPS systems. These act as back-up batteries, maintaining uninterrupted power in case of surges or power outages. With these back-up systems in place, we can keep our network up and running indefinitely without relying on external power.

Industrial-Grade Air Conditioners
x213 Network's NOC has two Liebert 10 ton industrial air conditioners that condition our computer rooms and operations center. Air temperature is maintained at an optimal 65 degrees Fahrenheit.


Force Filtered Cooling
All of x213 Networks servers are equipped with a positive-pressure filtered-air system. Four large fans pull filtered air into each server's protective case, and the components within are cooled by fans that circulate this purified air. This constant introduction of clean air into the case creates a positive pressure environment ensuring that dust and particles remain outside the server.


Redundant Hot Swap Power Supplies
Each server employs dual-redundant hot swap power supplies. If a power supply were to fail, the server would continue running with power from the alternate supply. Meanwhile, alarms would alert a technician, who would quickly restore redundancy. In the meantime, servers and client sites would experience no downtime.


Security
The only way to get into our datacenter is to go through one entrance which has swipe access card locks. There is a security guard present 24/7 and monitors over 20 motion sensitive cameras mounted in the datacenter. Only employees are allowed in the datacenter and must be accounted for.

5 mins ago a friend was telling me about his old hosting company and linked their URL : http://slhosting.com/index.html
He then went on to comment how it was strange that they mentioned that their server room temp was kept at 65 degrees Fahrenheit - this was especially unusual given that the company has Australian flags over their website and in Australia we have not used Fahrenheight 'temps' for many years.

Now ... when I'm reading this thread and looking at their "Network Info" the quotes given above match exactly what they have described on their webpage here: http://southernlights.net.au/network.shtml

Now that is a freaky thing to happen!

I do not mean to imply that x213Networks and Southern Lights Hosting are in any way related, however the info is a verbatim copy, which is very strange.

At a guess I'd say they must use the same NOC .. or something.

Sounds like a good deal. Could you please give any IP address or sample client site to test the speed?

How is bandwidth measured, by actual usage or 95th percentile? And what's the cost for installing control panel such as Plesk, H-Sphere, etc?

That is strange, the truth is we aren't associated with them in any way. My web designer made that text and I took it right out of our site. (Which will be up soon) :D

You can use this ip to check speed and such. 66.28.242.51

Bandwidth is measured by actual usage.

Ips are $3.00 per IP. One Time Fee!!!! (Must be utilized, which means that the ips that you get must be used. 90% Utilized)

The most IPs that you can get are 5. (Check below for information)

We currently do not install other control panels. You must buy them and get them installed yourself. Soon we will offer more control panels.

Here is another package that can use as many IPs as you want

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Package 3--------9 Available!!!!!
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AMD ATHLON 1.2Ghz
256MB RAM
RedHat Linux 7.1 Or Windows 2000
40GB HDD
600 GB Monthly Data Transfer
24/7 ICQ Support
5 IPs (More Avaible)

$99/Setup---$299/Month


Thanks

Originally posted by x213Networks
[B]Upgrade from 128 Ram to 256 Ram---$40
Upgrade from 128 Ram to 512 Ram---$110

Upgrade to a 40GB Hard Drive from 20GB---$30
Upgrade to a 60GB Hard Drive From 20GB---$50



Is that monthly or one off fee? and how much for a second HD?

Those are all one time fees and the prices for second hard drives are as follows:

Add a second 20GB Hard Drive---$91
Add a second 40GB Hard Drive---$115
Add a second 60GB Hard Drive---$139

**THESE ARE ALL ONE TIME FEES**

Looked up your email address (vortexminds@aol.com) on ICQ. Came up with two entires, one of them the age of the person is 14, the other 18....

So checked out your profile, born in 1981...

I have nothing against young people, because I am one :)...

But....this ICQ thing interests me a little bit... and then the exact copy of the NoC specs...I dunno, maybe someone else should take a look at it...

If you can, I'd like to see some pics of the NoC, location, etc...

And the NoC sounds pretty advanced for 100mb/s connection...am I right?? I understand that if you are just starting out and trying to get going, but still...something that advanced, and your webpage is down??

I'm not saying this guy is not legit...but personally I'm really interested in the packages, and don't want to get ripped off

Comments from others very welcome...and lets see some NoC pics!

Thanks..

x213 Networks does not own the NOC. We are partners with the owner. Like I said, my webdesigner did do that text work and I will ask him where he got it from. However those are our noc specs. I will post pictures as soon as the I get them in. And about the age thing. I am not 14 there was a mix up in the profiles. I am 18 I work for x213 Networks.

We are legit we are located in Chicago in the Board of Trade Building. We are a very good company and you get what we say you get.

I am sorry if the specs sound a little JAzzed up I am to ask the webdesigner about that like I said.

Also our website has been down for the past 2 weeks do to this new server move and move to our new noc with our partner.

The site will be up soon. I gurrantee that!

CobaltConn,

The IP 66.28.242.51 also comes back using the Cogent network.

Explains the prices, and saying they have a 100Mb connection.
I've heard varing things about Cogents reliability, but for what Cogent charges per month, its OK.


David

Cogent is one of our providers however its not our only provider. We also have Above Net as a provider.

Thanks

Are you affiliated to <<Please PM, censored for a reason>>?

I just got my server today, I'm setting up as we speak and I'll let you guys know how it goes.

The server speed is fast (although right now it has no load) and in a day or so when everything moves over we'll see how the server handles it.

Tech support is fast (ICQ), questions were answered almost instantly, and processing was easy. There was a bit of isolated problems with my server (typical computer part exploding or something :)) but a few days after sending the money via paypal and I'm setup.

We'll see how it goes.

Today is the last day for these prices go up again. I am accepting orders until FEB 3rd. Hurry Up!!! Sign up before this ends and you can get an extra 100GB BW for FREE on every package. Hurry up and sign up.

Originally posted by Wolfy
5 mins ago a friend was telling me about his old hosting company and linked their URL : http://slhosting.com/index.html
He then went on to comment how it was strange that they mentioned that their server room temp was kept at 65 degrees Fahrenheit - this was especially unusual given that the company has Australian flags over their website and in Australia we have not used Fahrenheight 'temps' for many years.

Now ... when I'm reading this thread and looking at their "Network Info" the quotes given above match exactly what they have described on their webpage here: http://southernlights.net.au/network.shtml

Now that is a freaky thing to happen!

I do not mean to imply that x213Networks and Southern Lights Hosting are in any way related, however the info is a verbatim copy, which is very strange.

At a guess I'd say they must use the same NOC .. or something.

both those sites are copies of http://www.alabanza.com/pages/datacenter.html

Great deal.

Quick question about the extra bandwith,

Your original post says an extra 10 GB BW" while the most recent post says "an extra 100GB BW for FREE on every package." Hopefully you mean 100GB which would make me consider it even more. :-)

Originally posted by downkaos


both those sites are copies of http://www.alabanza.com/pages/datacenter.html

Thanks for that info downkaos, I figured they had to be copied from somewhere - I just didn't know where. :)

Yes its an extra 100GB not 10GB.

Also I found out where that was copied. However it was www.linuxwebhost.com rather then those urls. Our proper Network will be posted on the site when it arrives soon.

THank You

How long of a wait time to turn up one of the 1.2 with RAM and HD upgrades?

Thanks,
TomK

1-3 Days to setup servers.

Thanks

OK x213Networks, why you are not honest and tell people that you are reseller instead of telling that you have your own NOC, then that you are partner... I am new to these forums but in the last few days I read a lot of posts and I remembered your name bacause there was always some issues about your offers. I remember that in one post you stated that you have your own NOC in your basement which comes that is not true later in that post...
About your web site... How long does it takes to make a website?
1 month? 3 month? 5 years? You said that you have web designer working for you. What is he doing, instead of coping text from other web sites. Aren't you the one to give him informations about your NOC so he won't need to copy that information from other websites?

My web designer made that text and I took it right out of our site.
Hmmm, you just copy and paste all the information about your NOC, (that your web designer made) without checking it if it is correct or not? Nice, very nice.
A lot of times you mentioned "We". How many poeple are "We"?
Howcome you don't have email eddress @yoursite , even if your web site is going thrue renovation your mail server should work.
Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against you, even I wish you luck in your bussiness, but it's not shame to tell that you are reseller, and people will stop being so suspicious about you and your company.

Good points.......If you read the tread you would find the answer to some of those questions.

We is the following:

Me (Saverio Mondelli)
The CEO (Mario Mondelli, my father)
2 Tech Supports (Dedicated)
1 Accountant
5 Hosting and Reseller Supports
1 Web Designer besides me
1 Flash Designer

If your wondering how we pay these people.....We exchange hosting for work as well as pay them salaries.

I copied the information quick because I was in a rush. I later changed it and made the questions.

We are not resellers. We are indeed partners with the NOC.

About the Board of Trade Building. You can only get in if you are registered. If you have got in before I assume that it was before 9-11. Since it is a historical building it is protected.

We were once a reseller for Downtownhost (They were great) And we recently became partners with this NOC and are doing fine as we are. Since we recently changed hosts and nocs, we decided to change the site too. We worked hard to finish the site. Its not just site design however, we recently installed an addon script for CPANEL which allows it to be used as billing and a ticket system. We are also in the process of finishing our very own Dedicated Reseller Control Panel which allows our dedicated resellers to get orders and support to us FAST. Which is great.

If you would like more information about our company, here it is.

x213 Networks is a division of Time Source Inc.

We have been in biz for 3 years however not as x213. We were recently Direct Netz (Host Site) and xProductions (Design Site).

We changed to x213 Networks on Febuary 13th 2001 (My birthday)

We are now here and finishing our massive company improvement.

Thank You
Sav
x213 Networks

P.S for someone who has nothing against us. You sure have alot against us :D

Why is it that someone always has to come in and ask stupid questions like did you steal your design or are you 14. In my opinion thats not what webhostingtalk is about. So people stop trying to ruin the hosts!

Originally posted by vibehosts
Why is it that someone always has to come in and ask stupid questions like did you steal your design or are you 14. In my opinion thats not what webhostingtalk is about. So people stop trying to ruin the hosts!

aye. i agree :)

Originally posted by vibehosts
Why is it that someone always has to come in and ask stupid questions like did you steal your design or are you 14. In my opinion thats not what webhostingtalk is about. So people stop trying to ruin the hosts!


Yes, that's EXACTLY what this board is about. Nobody wants to spend money with a host that will not be around 6 months later. How do we know if they will be around in 6 months? If they are 14 is a good sign. If they steal someone else's site means they are not dedicated to their business and building it up.... they want a quick 'let me make some quick money from someone else's hard work so I can go play some video games'.

If YOU would like that kind of person to be in control of your website, that's wonderful. It's safe to say that most people would NOT.

Everytime I see a flame towards a host...it always seems to come from a competitor.

Draw your own conclusions :).

Originally posted by EzCool
Everytime I see a flame towards a host...it always seems to come from a competitor.

Draw your own conclusions :).

lol

Wow, a lot of comments.
First of all, Saverio, thanks for clarification, that's a lot of information. I guess you've got me wrong since you are saying
P.S for someone who has nothing against us. You sure have alot against us
I don't have anything against you, beleve it or not. Even I am not in the hosting business yet. Yes, I am planning to start and thats why I asked some questions. I just want to be sure with who I'll be dealing if I order a server from you. Since there was no web site available I had to ask some questions about you/your company.
If you think that it is not ok to ask questions, I am sorry that I waste your time, I will delete my post with questions (to not make you look bad) and I will search for another host.
Just post here if that's what you want.
I thought that you are reseller because you didnt have web site and because you were using information about NOC from another company.

vibehosts and DelusionalMi, if you think that asking questions is ruining someones company you are very wrong. What would you think about some company that offers good deals and don't even have a web site?
If my questions seams stupid to you then obviously you are very narrow-minded to understand them (note to mod: if the last sentence is not allowed feel free to delete it).

rastoma, I completly agree with you.

I don't think this is the right place for this kind of post, but i felt offended and I had to reply.

x213Networks, Saverio, thanks again for your reply. I wish you luck in your business.

Thank you, I have no intention of asking you to delete your posts. I was just mad that some people (Particlly Competion) Ask thousands of questions.

Thank You

Also I really like posting and having some people agree and the others bicker quite madly towards me. Some things will never change..............

Originally posted by x213Networks
We is the following:
Me (Saverio Mondelli)
The CEO (Mario Mondelli, my father)
<snip>
x213 Networks is a division of Time Source Inc.

We have been in biz for 3 years however not as x213. We were recently Direct Netz (Host Site) and xProductions (Design Site).
<snip>

It is interesting to note however, that Time Source Inc. are Jewelers, specalising in watches and watch repairs it seems.
Not that this is bad, but it would seem that you are 'expanding' your fathers buisness into networking/hosting etc.

Good luck with it btw ... if you can keep these prices, and provide service etc like you have indicated, you will no doubt grow pretty quickly. It seems a few Cogent based hosts are doing likewise at the moment.

Wolfy P.I. :)

Originally posted by EzCool
I just got my server today, I'm setting up as we speak and I'll let you guys know how it goes.

The server speed is fast (although right now it has no load) and in a day or so when everything moves over we'll see how the server handles it.

Tech support is fast (ICQ), questions were answered almost instantly, and processing was easy. There was a bit of isolated problems with my server (typical computer part exploding or something :)) but a few days after sending the money via paypal and I'm setup.

We'll see how it goes.

What are you using to setup sites with? Manually? Or using a control panel?

Originally posted by x213Networks
Check out these AMAZING OFFERS!!!!

AMD Athlon 800Mhz CPU



The cpu in this server is an AMD Duron.... why are you advertising it as a Athlon?

What server are you checking?

We are giving you athlons

Originally posted by x213Networks
What server are you checking?

We are giving you athlons

No... I've talked with your supplier.... ie. the place you're reselling servers from and they informed me they are leasing you AMD DURON cpu's... not Athlon.... there is a difference. In my opinion not a big difference and I think the Duron can server pages just as well, but you need to advertise it correctly.

Could you Email me the person that you talked with?

I talked with my "supplier" and they said that they didn't talk to anyone.

Thanks

Heh, i just noticed something funny. www.kingcomp.com was the site offering identical services as x213, and their site is null routed, and then i looked and noticed x213.com has no nameservers, whats up with that? Looks like your partners site got owned.

Originally posted by porcupine
Heh, i just noticed something funny. www.kingcomp.com was the site offering identical services as x213, and their site is null routed, and then i looked and noticed x213.com has no nameservers, whats up with that? Looks like your partners site got owned.

It's not kingcomp.com.. it's .net... different companies. That's not his partner... he just resells the servers.. he's never been there and has nothing else to do with them other than he claiming he's sending a full rack to have set up just for him.

sorry about that, my bad on the url, i assumed they were x213's partners since x213 keeps claiming to have some in their datacenter, and because their offers are virtually identical :p. Pretty funny either way ^_^

Originally posted by porcupine
sorry about that, my bad on the url, i assumed they were x213's partners since x213 keeps claiming to have some in their datacenter, and because their offers are virtually identical :p. Pretty funny either way ^_^

He does have some servers in their datacenter.. but they are duron 800mhz system that he's renting.

If you read earlier in this post, people were debatine whether x213 was using duron 800's or athlon 800's, i dont really care, but i don't think thats setting them apart, as noone knows for sure what they're using.

I've received a server and am testing it now. Looks like a Duron 950. Not too familar with the AMD line tho.
So far, so good. Fast setup of the 2K and great performance. A little weak on the communication, but I prefer that over empty promisies :)

Would a moderator check the IP of this post?

(of Potsie's post rather)

Originally posted by rastoma


What are you using to setup sites with? Manually? Or using a control panel?

Since the server comes pretty much blank, I installed webmin using SSH (the RPM is like a 2 step process) and do most of my admin work from there. The only thing I use SSH for now is running top and tarballing directories.

Right now I'm only running a few of my sites on the server, but it seems to be handling them extremely well. Most of the time load stays around .03 and 98% idle cpu usage with a site serving tens of thousands of page views daily. This is on an 800 mhz system.

what kind of the software are you include for the dedicated servers packages?

Full Linux Install......Full Windows 2000 Install

Everything that comes with those (redhat)

Thanks

x213Networks, given that Windows 2000 Server costs about $800 to buy, I am honestly curious how you can offer this on $80 or even $99 per month plans. Even if you divided the cost of W2k over a year - it's still $66 per month - and then you've got hardware and bandwidth costs to add on as well.

I'm either calculating wrong, have wrong information, or you are losing money each month. There is another alternative, but I'm not going to point that out because I hope I'm wrong.

Obviously you won’t want to share your marketing plan or costs - but you could perhaps point out where I am mistaken in my calculations.

Wofly, did you remember to factor in multiple license versions? ones that have like 10 licenses (or do they do that for servers? i remember them doing it for small LAN's and such). But then again, don't forget all the extras you gotta get to even have a functional server in windows, like ms sql, exchange, whatever webserver they use (iis?), the asp and other extensions, etc. etc. etc.

As far as I am aware CAL's (or Client Access Licences) only apply to MS desktop OS's and related products. Obviously you'd get a discount for buying W2k Server in bulk, but they are still individual licences AFIK.

But again, if someone is more informed than me, please feel free to comment, I am no expert when it comes to MS licensing.

However porcupine, IIS, ASP, etc. etc are all 'free inclusions' and so is MS streaming media now days. Exchange won't work without Active Directory, and I can't see anyone using that just for their webserver. MySQL is a free db that does a similar job to MS SQL. :) ... But you're still right, many of the programs that add functionality to W2k are all 'pay' products - most email programs, most functional FTP programs etc. But in this case it would be up to the customer to pay for and install these programs. But x213Networks has said they supply a "Full Windows 2000 Install" .. and I'm honestly curious how. :)

As far as I am aware CAL's (or Client Access Licences) only apply to MS desktop OS's and related products.CALS also apply to W2K, but you only need 5 for web servers. Additional CALs on W2K are needed for every "Authenticated" user. IUSR account is the anonymous web user used by IIS and is only 1 CAL.

Hope that helps!