Fantastic offer!

NoMonthly.co.uk offering 10 200MB hosting accounts for a one off fee of £500.

Package features include:

200MB Webspace
5Gb Monthly Transfer
Unlimited POP Email Accounts
Unlimited Autoresponders
Unlimited Email Forwarders
Free Shopping Cart
CPanel Control Panel
And much much more....

Contact us on UK 0800 138 3235 for more info, or email jo@nomonthlyuk.net.

Further package details on http://www.nomonthlyuk.net.

Very Limited Time Offer.

Regards,

Joseph Stonehouse

Hi, I'm just wonderingwhy you want a one time fee of £500 while the same package on your website costs £99.... do you still have to buy the domain yearly through you guys if you pay the £500? (and at £25/domain, it'd take 16 years for that to be worthwhile compared to your other package).

There must be something i'm missing.... :eek:

An error which has now been corrected - the same package normally costs £249.95, and we are offering 10 accounts for a total one time fee of just £500, averaging £50 per account. There are no further hosting fees to be paid, just an annual domain maintenance charge of £25. You may additionally re-sell these accounts if desired and could charge a monthly fee. This means that even if you do not want to use them yourself, you could earn from them and keep 100% of what is paid to you each month.

If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to email or call.

Gotcha, that makes more sense (it sounded like you had a total of 10 available).

Nope... we have no limit set as yet on the number we sell at this price.

>> http://www.nomonthlyuk.net/resellers.htm

Maybe hosting companies will learn some day to stop copying others' text and content.

Last I checked, the english language isnt copyrighted.... It's only text.. just leave it at that..

Originally posted by Kiwi
>> http://www.nomonthlyuk.net/resellers.htm

Maybe hosting companies will learn some day to stop copying others' text and content.

There is a job going at the http://www.bbc.co.uk for the program WATCHDOG you seem to be the right person. ;)

Escuse Kiwi for mentioning, the text was copied from HIS site.
how rude of all of you to complain about his complaints of ripoffing his site.

Originally posted by IceBlaZe
Escuse Kiwi for mentioning, the text was copied from HIS site.
how rude of all of you to complain about his complaints of ripoffing his site.

He could have sent an email to them first rather than post it here.

umm why? dont we deserve to know?

Originally posted by Dedicated


He could have sent an email to them first rather than post it here.

Did. Got a pretty rude reply. Rather than posting it here, lets leave it at that. I'm just getting sick of seeing the same text just copied & pasted, the hosting company name changed and uploaded.

are you related to nomonthlyfees.com in any way? Apart from the price you look awfully similar... just curious...

how does this company expect to remain profitable in 5 years time? I hate one time fee companies, because in 6 months 99% of them have disappeared without a trace.

Originally posted by porcupine
how does this company expect to remain profitable in 5 years time? I hate one time fee companies, because in 6 months 99% of them have disappeared without a trace.

I agree with you.

I feel its time to defend the honour of my company, which seems to have been unduly attacked. All we are doing in this advertising forum is offering a special offer... if you are interested then feel free to post a comment, if you are not, then either don't comment, or make a private comment directly to us. There can be no justification in publicly insulting a company when none of you are to my knowledge are a customer, or have any history with our company.

Kiwi, I have looked at the copied text from your site to ours and can only say that I am very sorry. I was not aware that this text was taken from your site and if I had been I would not have given my authorisation to it. I will speak to the responsible party tomorrow with regards to having it altered. Once again, I can only offer my sincerest apologies. I would be interested in seeing the email regarding this that you received from us, and would appreciate it if you could forward this on to me if you have the opportunity to do so (jo@nomonthlyuk.net).

As to the remarks about whether we intend to remain in business for longer than six months? Well for a start, we have been in business for over two years now. We have been growing steadily ever since we established and have extremely long lists of very happy customers. We have been picked up in the British press (Daily Mail, The Independent, Sky News to name a few) and we have been commended by PricewaterhouseCoopers for our innovation within a stagnating industry. Next week we shall be on BBC television for our achievements in the hosting industry. We are part of a much larger organisation called mpcGroupInternational, which has operations in 11 countries worldwide, some of which are also in the hosting/internet industry. The NoMonthly division is not designed to run at an immense profit, as we rely on our other operations to provide this. We run NoMonthly as we are committed to 100% customer service and at a price which is affordable to the smaller end of the market, something which many of today’s hosting companies seem to have forgotten.

In the future, if people would like to make fallacious comments or accusations against us it could be considered courteous to contact us first or at least have the facts to back up your claims.

I hope the majority of you will be fair-minded enough to see through these unprovoked and excessively unfair comments.

Kind regards,

Jo Stonehouse

how does this company expect to remain profitable in 5 years time? I hate one time fee companies, because in 6 months 99% of them have disappeared without a trace.

Thats not an attack on your company. The fact is that many providers offer one time fee's for a service which costs them reccuringly, and unless the fee is massive, then how do they expect to stay in business. It's not an insult or a jab at your company, but mere fact that 99% of companies that offer one time setup fee's disappear within 6-12 months or drop the plans and have some tidy little section of their TOS to cover their buts. You will find that most people who have ever bought into something like that (myself included) have gotten burned. It's not your fault that the rest of the market you're competing in is dishonest, and theres nothing saying you are too, just that 99% of them are.

ok this isnt an attack at all. but if you in the uk you might know about bigbluesky :) ok now with that in mind, what are you prepared to say about how your business model works to convince us that it is sustainable? im just curious. how does it work.i mean you dont pay your upstream one off. so it relies on continued investment right? and for that to work you have to keep offering more and buying more for less playing the markets etc. just playing with ideas but how does it work :)

Originally posted by jstonehouse
All we are doing in this advertising forum is offering a special offer... if you are interested then feel free to post a comment, if you are not, then either don't comment, or make a private comment directly to us. There can be no justification in publicly insulting a company when none of you are to my knowledge are a customer, or have any history with our company.

To my understanding, WHT is intended as a public forum, not just a vehicle so you can get some free advertising. If you don't want to entertain comments about your offer and your business practices then why don't you just BUY advertising.

If you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen...

Keith

If you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitchen...

Hahaha, ouch, my woman would beat you for that one :D

Mine already did... perhaps I should have used more politically correct wording.

Ouch..

ouch.


:(

Originally posted by 4solutions
Mine already did... perhaps I should have used more politically correct wording.

Ouch..

ouch.


:(


Haha, but then it wouldn't make me laugh, it was worth it :)

what are you prepared to say about how your business model works to convince us that it is sustainable?

As I said, our business model is not designed to run at immense profit. We are profitable because we get a large number of new signups every month, because we charge for advertising on our site and for affiliations with third parties (banks, webdesigners etc.) who can offer services directly to our members. Additionally, our members are obligated to purchase their domain name with us meaning that we get an annual income from all our customers. We primarily run the company because we feel that the industry has become too greedy with most ridiculously overcharging their customers for the standard of service they receive. We have the strength of a larger company behind us to support us if for some reason growth were to stagnate; there are no signs of this at present.

Oh, so you sign your customers to spam (well technically not spam, but im sure people know what i mean). Also, "we get lots of new signups" isn't very reassuring, it turns into a pyramid scheme, if you don't get enough new customers to support the old ones, what happens?

No, what I mean is that customers agree to receive our ONE weekly newsletter which features offers from people who have products which might be of interest to them; they will not receive hundreds of pointless emails a day. I believe that it is a small price to pay when you are saving anything between £10 and £40 a month for your hosting; if they don't want the newsletter, they can delete it. As I said, if we don't get enough customers a month we have the other arms of our business which are more than strong enough to support the NoMonthly arm. However, even if we didn't receive any signups a month we would continue to be profitable on the income generated from advertising and afiliation alone. This is however extremely unlikely, and each month more and more people are realising that they don't have to pay excessive monthly fees at all, and are subsequently transferring to our services.

Anyway, to be fair to Joseph, let's look at some numbers:

As I understand the offer, if we purchase 10 accounts at a time, then his company is offering us 200mb of storage + 5gb bandwidth + a domain name for about $36.00 USD per year with a first year fee (including domain name) of about $71.00 USD. Let's assume that the average person probably stays with this plan for two years before deciding that their website is either a big bust and needs to be retired, or that, hey, it's a big success and I need more bandwidth and it's time to go to another host.

That means, that on average, Joseph is probably getting about $ 107.00 USD for two years of service (including domain name). That averages out to $54.00 per year (okay, I'm tired, and I'm rounding). Subtract out a domain name from Stargate at $9.00 USD and that leaves $45.00 USD for a year's hosting service.

Is this any less viable than Cyberwings offer of 100mb of storage + 6mb bandwidth for $7.50 USD per year at http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38750 ?? Yet nobody is beating up on Cyberwings there.

Is this business model a risk? Perhaps. But that's business... no risk - no reward.

Just a tired thought... :yawn:


Keith


P.S. to Joseph... I said what I said earlier because I believe that people in a public forum should say what they think. The internet is this world's only hope for free speech. When you place an offer here on this board it is to be examined and questioned. That is the nature of a public forum and I took offense to your suggestion that we have no right to post a comment if we wanted to question it or had any negative comments about it.

Was there a problem with the nomonthly site last week?

I couldn't access it at all and just assumed it had gone out of business.

A problem with Nominet UK over which they took a long long time to resolve.

Our servers were all up, all clients sites were functioning as normal and support etc. was handled through our mirror site nomonthlyuk.net. Apologies if you could not connect to our main site during this period, but it was completely out of our hands. Everything has now been resolved with Nominet.